9:41AM: Brebbia will earn $5.5MM in guaranteed money, as The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal (links to X) has the breakdown of terms. Brebbia earns a $4MM base salary for 2024, and there is a $6MM mutual option for 2025 that includes a $1.5MM buyout. Up to $1MM in incentive bonuses are also available each season, and Brebbia can start unlocking those bonuses if and when he hits the 45-appearance threshold.
8:58AM: The White Sox have signed right-hander John Brebbia, MLB Network’s Jon Morosi reports (via X). Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times adds that Brebbia inked a one-year deal. Brebbia is represented by Icon Sports Management.
Newly-hired White Sox senior pitching advisor Brian Bannister undoubtedly had some influence in the signing, as Bannister spent the previous four seasons as the Giants’ director of pitching and oversaw Brebbia’s usage as a versatile bullpen weapon. Brebbia worked as an opener, middle reliever, and setup man in San Francisco, posting a 3.83 ERA over 134 appearances and 124 2/3 innings while also delivering a solid 6.7% walk rate and 23% strikeout rate.
That latter statistic is perhaps a little misleading, as Brebbia had only a 18.8% strikeout rate during his 68 innings in 2022, sandwiched between much higher K% rates in the smaller sample sizes of his other two seasons. Brebbia tossed only 18 1/3 innings in 2021 since he was recovering from a June 2020 Tommy John surgery, and he also missed over 2.5 months of last season due to a lat strain.
A 30th-round pick for the Yankees in the 2011 draft, Brebbia was a bit of a late bloomer who didn’t make his MLB debut until when he was just shy of his 27th birthday, as a member of the 2017 Cardinals. Brebbia pitched well out of the Cards’ bullpen in his first three big league seasons, but in the wake of his TJ surgery, St. Louis opted to non-tender him following the 2020 season. For his career, the 33-year-old Brebbia has a 3.42 ERA over 299 2/3 innings with St. Louis and San Francisco.
The White Sox had a lot of holes to fill in both the rotation and their bullpen this winter, and GM Chris Getz has been busy on that front in acquiring the likes of Erick Fedde, Chris Flexen, Michael Soroka, and Tim Hill, in addition to a number of other pitchers with MLB experience on minor league deals. Since Aaron Bummer was traded to the Braves, Brebbia might step into the setup role that Bummer previously held in Chicago, even if it isn’t a perfect one-to-one match since Bummer is a southpaw.
It also stands to reason that Brebbia could be deployed as he was in San Francisco, rather than strictly in a setup capacity. Since Gregory Santos is recovering from elbow inflammation and might not be ready for the start of Spring Training, Brebbia might even nab a few save opportunities if Santos hits any delays or if the White Sox simply decide to take it easy with their prospective closer.
Signing a major league player that wasn’t released by someone else? Uncle Jer must be sick. Surprised any player that would appear to have options settles on the White Sox.
We are in such a stupid place with professional sports. The White Sox have $5.5 million to pay a bum like John Brebbia, but they are going to “need help” from the taxpayers in Chicago, and the state of Illinois to help fund their $$ billion new stadium. Just Stupid! In other words, we need taxpayers to build a stadium so we can put fans in the stands for a couple of years with.a new ballpark. ……. Next they will talk up how it’s “more than a stadium”, but will bring much needed hotels and new residential property attached. …. Then they will talk about how they will be able to pursue big time free agents. ….. It’s ALL nothing but Corporate Welfare in the worst way. It’s just disgusting. The type of thing that has this die hard fan, a lot less die hard right now. They can move away. Just done with the corporate welfare crap, and using the emotional attachment fans have to their team to get it.
Yeah, you sound like a very “die hard fan”
Sounds like he’ll need an intervention in about a week.
semut: You can be a “die hard fan” and still be critical of management. If you care about your team, you’re allowed to call them out when they destroy the team you love way before they got their pinch-penny hands on it. You don’t have to turn into a cubs fan where everything about their team is sunshine and roses in their minds. Sign a bum and cubs fans will spin it into a great signing that will lead them to the World Series. Sign a bum and Sox fans will express their anger over another piece of garbage that’s supposed to be a big part of their so-called “retool” the team. You don’t “retool”. or “rebuild”, by trading away your best pitcher and replacing him with pitchers no one else wants. That’s called “cutting the budget”.
I would bet my bank account I have lived and died with the White Sox harder and longer than you have. I have even been one of the few who has been on board with what Getz has been doing. …… Getting taxpayers involved with paying for a new White Sox stadium draws the line for me. Taxpayer funded way to actually put White Sox fans into seats at higher prices with all the proceeds going to Jerry Reinsdorf.
Very Barry sound more like a sad-sack fan that thinks he has enough money to own a MLB with unlimited funds like Yankees & Mets. Brebbia probably is the best signing they made by a long shot. I’m actually a White Sox “Die Hard Fan” that sticks with my team through thick & thin. The constant whinning from White Sox fans sound like a huge Day Care Center of baby’s with soiled diapers. They never have anything noteworthy to say.
I’ve been fan since 1968. You BarryVery sad
DeepDownSouth: We have something noteworthy to say, it’s just not what you want to hear. Give us something positive to say and we’ll say it. I took stick with my team through thick and thin. I have most of my life. But I and others like Very Barry can also call out management when they destroy our team by refusing to field a competitive team by refusing to put any money into the major league team as well as trying to build a farm system. But when jer wants a new stadium to show off to the other owners, to make a very small man look big, then he should pay for it himself. He hasn’t put any money into the team so he should have more than enough for his new shrine to himself. If you don’t like the “whining”, don’t read the posts
The people of Illinois already built Reinsdorf a stadium and he put nothing into the product the last 30 years. So why in the world would we do it again? We’d have to be the biggest suckers in the world. Ricketts put about a billion dollars of his own money into a stadium, Office Building, Hotel, Parking Garage and neighborhood improvements. Now he prints money. Reinsdorf probably doesn’t even tip his gardener.
Iavenger65 The deal is you guys think coming on MLBtraderumors & crying about everything White Sox like a bunch of wet daper babies is really gonna change anything. Yall nut jobs wanted Williams & Hahn gone. Yall got yall wish, which I also thought was the best move bc this team was spinning its wheels. So ownership cleans house basically & before any results can bear whatever good or bad will happen you guys are already roasting the new people that replaced them. Maybe this team can preform better than last season. By all means let’s crush them 3-4 months b4 any pitch is thrown or ball hit. But I also remember the last time White Sox made playoffs the same bunch of guys were here crying about the S.O.S. What gives with you guys? Does anyone really think that any BIG free agent will sign in Chicago as long as our City of Chicago is turning into a wasteland with the rampart crime & corruption running through it? Do you remember last year or so when bullets were landing in the fans laps from outside of the stadium. There nothing Reinsdorf can do about that. It’s up the the citizens on that part. I remember the time when walking down the streets wasn’t like walking on a battlefield, Do you remember those times? You must not think billionaires/millionaires notice stuff like that. Get a gripe & b4 you past judgemen b4 season starts try to support our home team. It’s sickening to read yall crap to be honest. I’d wish they’d move to get better fan support. I know I’d still one of there best fans. And jeez…it’s only a game. You should be whinning about the crummy baseball commissioner who’s trying to change the game as we once knew it. An if you don’t like my huge support for our team like I do….then don’t read my post.
The stadium will cost $1 BIL!
$5.5 mil is fly$hit.
One has little to do with the other.
As long as that $1 billion doesn’t come with taxpayer support then build and pay whatever you want. Taxpayers ain’t getting none of the profits. Taxpayers don’t need to be footing ANY of the bill. That goes for the White Sox and EVERY other team. The OKC Thunder just got the public to pay for their new $900 billion stadium. Taxpayers paying $850 million. The billionaire owner paying $50. Screw these guys!
These $ Billion valued franchises have a couple hundred million per year for salaries. They should easily be able to handle a billion stadium financed over 25 years.
Looks like someone needs a nappy nap
That “bum” John Brebbia is a good pitcher and a really solid presence for a clubhouse and bullpen. Everything doesn’t have to be a Shohei Ohtani signing to be good. He’s a really good pickup and we’re going to miss him in SF.
The city of Chicago is a very poor financial position because of the pension debacle. Now you have the Bears and the White Sox threatening to move. Let them both go!!!
A billion would go a long, long way toward paying down the pension debacle, and benefit ALL residents of the city. The city of Chicago doesn’t even get the revenue from the parking meters in the city. Mayor Richard Daly sold that, to a group of bankers. The lease is 75 years long. Chicago has to reimburse the bankers any time a meter is broken, or not accessible due to an event. Chicago will pay more to the bankers for down meters than they got from the deal in the first place. No Funds For Sports Teams!
First of all your information is terribly flawed. Let them go? You obviously have zero idea how much revenue the Bears and Sox bring into the city. Now the Bears, Unlike Reinsdorf, The Bears are willing to sink at least some of the cost of a new stadium with their own money. The Bears main problem is the Stadium is owned by The Park District who are the biggest collection of A**holes in the city. No make that State. As far as the Sox go they don’t need a new stadium. They need a new owner. If they get a new owner now we can talk about a new stadium. Like the guy said, Yankkees-Mets, Angels-Dodgers, Astros-Rangers Other in state rivalries don’t seem to stop spending on a winner. So I’d tell Reinsdorf, Sell the team and we’ll build a new stadium as long as it isn’t run by the Park District it’ll be fine and the City will make a ton of money on the deal.
Losing Bears & White Sox will catapult Chicago into a much less desirable city than it already is. Yall would have to move. Be careful what yall wish for. Yall should be crying about the education system, law enforcement people in charge, the mayor. My city is now a huge mess. If I wasn’t so old I’d be gone, but still I’d support the White Sox from afar. Enjoy the team you got for Pete’s sake.
Why would Brebbia do that to himself, this team is going to cause him to suck and regress…
Hoping for a deadline trade to a contender?
I guess, it’s a slight step above the Athletics but it’s not much.
As the article points out, he’s reuniting with the pitching advisor/director who worked with him in SF.
That, and the possibility that they offered more than others would probably be the reason he signed.
And yes, signing with a lesser team also increases the odds of getting traded to a playoff team at the deadline.
Bannister hire was a step in right analytical direction for pitchers. Hope he can revive some of its past high draft picks like Kelley/Thompson that Getz himself has failed to develop. Their system might be better than it appears with competent coaching. Same goes for getting Barfield from Dbacks as smarter set of eyes. Less likely to trade for someone’s fools gold next couple years when they have assets to sell.
1 season in Chicago and Getz should have developed every player in the system? Yeah right! You don’t know much about baseball except for bitching about Sox
DDS: Getz oversaw the farm system in a previous role when Hahn was the GM.
You can find a better team for that
He has been on the Giants for 3 years. He is used to mediocrity and a front office that doesn’t prioritize winning.
Mediocrity? As in 107 wins two years ago?
Get over it, dude. I’m a Giants fan. That was the biggest fluke season ever, and the fact that it was their only winning season since 2016 proves as much. The sooner you can admit that they are now an also-ran who have no real shot at being competitive, the happier you will be. I usually turn the game off as soon as they fall behind, because I know with the rosters Farhan builds they have no chance at coming back.
@ted See you at the park. Try to keep whining so I can avoid you.
The fair weather fan. It’s all a bit too difficult when things get uncomfortable. Quick, turn it off and run to the internet where i can make myself feel better by slamming Zaidi. Respect for honesty !
Not difficult at all, boring and unwatchable. When Wilmer Flores is the biggest threat to do damage on offense, you have built an incredibly flawed roster. What joy do you get in constantly defending Zaidi? I just don’t understand people like you. Watching an entire roster of depth pieces, almost none of which would be an everyday player on a real contender, isn’t enjoyable. The fan base deserves better.
Mocking egotistically driven sooks that perceive themselves to be harborers of great baseball knowledge is great fun !
I love watching and supporting the team as well. Whatever the roster construction. Your team is like your mates and your family. You get in the trenches and support them no matter the odds or the difficulty. Love it. Sport is good like that.
Ha ha. Yep. They don’t prioritise winning because they don’t do the things that the baseball genius Theodore wants.
Good luck to Brebbia. Unlike some Giant fans, he isn’t all carried away with himself. Humble, funny dude that performs well more often than not.
It’s a hedge against another injury.
Let’s say he pitches well but misses significant time while doing so. He recoups the lost $1 million in performance bonuses as a $1.5 million buyout on a “mutual” (aka “never exercised”) option. However, there is also the possibility that a rebuilding team with a garbage owner who won’t spend the $4.5 million difference on real talent anyway may just exercise the option since the team is already 25% committed. That may cause the stars to align on the rare mutual option that is actually exercised, because another season of injury history may keep the player’s market next offseason under that $4.5 million difference.
If all he was getting was 1-year offers in that $5-6 million range, this offer is a little bit better.
Of course, if he stays healthy and pitches well, he comes out even further ahead, because he gets both the $1 million in incentives AND the $1.5 buyout when he declines his end of the option. That tops him out at $6.5 million for his services in 2024 and allows him to enter free agency again and secure an even larger salary for 2025.
He can’t get a buyout if he opts out.
The buyout would only apply if he exercises his option and the team buys it out.
No, the buyout on mutual options is paid either way. Same thing just happened to Mike Clevinger a few months ago. He opted out and pocketed the $4 million.
And with the acquisition of John Brebbia Chris Getz issued the following ultimatum to the rest of the 29 teams in Major League Baseball: “Surrender the World Series Title or face our wrath!!!”
Where he said that at, Joe B?
Brebbia along with another exGiant, Greg Santos #foreverGiants
The “forever giants” thing is so annoying, especially when attached to minimal impact fringe players. It cheapens and dilutes the entire concept. Lol ask Santos if he considers himself a “forever Giant”. Pretty sure we both know the answer
Way to miss the entire joke. “Forever Giant” is used ironically by fans to cope with the roster churn.
Yeah, that joke went waaay over your head lol
Thank you, @CALgoBe! I was waiting for someone to deliver.
Reinsdorf is quietly building a juggernaut. Get your bets down now, before the odds change. All Jerry does, is spend, spend, spend.
Call the Beekeeper.
What’s all this about a beekeeper? I love pollinators as much as the next person but I don’t get it.
It’s a new movie with Jason Statham
Yeah, I think he gets into a fistfight or something.
So even the White Sox are upgrading their bullpen, while Jed Hoyer sleeps on the job. The Cubs bullpen was so overdependent on a couple of guys last year but they haven’t learned. Unreal.
The Sox ‘upgrading’ anything is not saying much considering how godawful they were last season. The White Sox are picking up scraps and throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks for their underwhelming roster this season while the Cubs are focusing on trying to win. The offseason is not over. Though I will say if Hoyer keeps the existing BP with out making good upgrades then any Cubs fan should be a bit concerned.
nrd: Every team but the Sox and A’s are trying to win
Your not wrong.
$5.5m for Brebbia? Hader got underpaid!
That’s more money than I would have expected him to get. But I saw him in KC last year, he was throwing hard, and his stuff looked good.
Another decent move by the White Sox. I understand the fans frustration, but I think Getz has raised the floor. The on-field product should be much easier to watch this season.
It took a while, but there’s Brebbia’s KC connection.
He never played in KC. He played for the giants and cardinals, drafted by the Yankees.
DonOsbourne saw him play in KC last year. That’s the KC connection.
I didn’t know that.
Its not saying much considering how awful the Sox were last season.I guess we will see what Katz is really made of to get these scrapheap players to actually be a decent BP. Given the lack of a rotation (as Cease will either be gone or hurt this season) they will be overused and exposed if these guys are wrecks.
How will Cease be hurt?
Is someone hiring Jeff Gilooly?
The Slider and its cousin the Sweeper makes elbow’s go boom, ask Ohtani. Cease already had TJS, and other pitchers have shown it can now happen more than once. Never mind the luck of the Sox to try to hold him for more value only to see him hurt with a massive injury ruining his trade value.
Don: If Getz has raised the floor, which he hasn’t, he would still be looking up after his random signings of has-beens and rejects.
Brebbia should net a decent prospect and a couple million in salary relief at the deadline
Now that it’s a bullpen game I’ve expected versatile guys to be more in demand.
When healthy he’s a good guy to have.
Halis: The bullpen blew so many leads last year, Cease and Giolito would both have had much better records without them. Clevinger was allowed to pitch 7-8 innings allegedly to keep the bullpen out of the game.
You have it backwards, Ceases inability to go deep consistently taxed the bullpen
The White Sox 40-man roster is currently full so another move will be required when they officially add John Brebbia.
Oh which golden bauble will have to be surrendered to add the brilliantly bejeweled Brebbia?
Farhan will be waiting for that 40th man to get waived.
How about Brebbia?
These are exactly the guys Getz should be signing. Good players that can be flipped at the deadline for prospects. I’ve said it before he’s doing a good job. As for the 40 man, That’s really not a problem is it? LMAO
Ahh, the perfume on the pig… Keyword is ‘good’ players.. and flipped for what? Its not like this guy is a 50 save closer, if they get an A ball player for a BP guy like this they will be lucky. The Sox will likely get cash considerations which really is what gets ‘The Chairman’ up in the mornings. More importantly how ‘good’ will he be when he will likely will be overused and have an era of 6+ with the way the rotation is going to look.
You don’t build a farm system from the top down. You build one from the bottom up. These are the guys you trade for A ball level prospects, Maybe some international money. This is where you need good scouts. The Sox system is so bad it needs a major rebuild. The one thing I didn’t understand about hiring Getz was he was the one responsible for that happening in the first place. He’s hiring guys like Bannister though who are good at it. We’ll just have to see how it goes. The Sox higher round draft picks are good, It’s the lower levels that aren’t so good. Brebbia is probably better than Robertson was when the Cubs signed him and turned him into Ben Brown, Tepera into Bailey Horn. So it can happen. The more guys like this , The more chances you have.
Unclemike: You do build a team from the bottom up. I see very few if any prospects Getz has gotten that will displace all the dfa’s the Sox have collected for their farm system. They’re picking up players other teams don’t want. These are not the players you flip for prospects. You flip them for more garbage. Getz should study the O’s and the DBacks to find out how to build a farm system. Getz can’t even trade anyone to get prospects because he doesn’t have anyone of value. When he trades Cease and, soon after, Robert, Getz isn’t smart enough to get prospects those two should bring in order to build up their minor leagues.
Your right about cutting the budget. I thought I heard white Sox have a decent track record when it comes to pitchers. You know like Clevinger, Johnny Cueto, Middleton? Everyone knows the Sox aren’t competing in 2024. I kinda see them taking a “bridge year” approach. Once Colson Montgomery comes up, what should the Sox do?
Release him, probably.
He’s Sox top prospect.
And he should be sox’s starting SS for the future, releasing him is pointless.
I have high hopes for a guy like Montgomery, but long standing fans of the Sox have been fooled by the Sox ‘Can’t miss guys’ before. Lets see him be that guy to build around. The Sox, once again, are really riding on the hopes that some of these prospects will be ready in about 1 year (more than that and you officially call it a ‘Rebuild’) and can be competitive in a division that has every other team basically doing the same thing. I mean, what, 3 high ceiling catching prospects.. I mean ONE should be good… right?
Right, competing in the AL Central isn’t impossible whatsoever. I agree that Colson has to be part of their next “core”.
You’ve heard it here first, contenders for the AL central title in 24 through September. First to 76 wins!
81-81 might win you the AL Central.
Like Brebbia asked Gabe Kapler when he took him out of a game, we should ask Getz – “Are you sure?”
Brebbs is an intelligent very funny guy and the beard he grows every season is infamous.
Thanks for all you did for the Giants Brebbs! Best of luck on the southside!
Sox offseason ain’t over until TA7 is signed. Wait for it because you know it’s coming.
I’m still thinking Tim Anderson signs with the Marlins since they can use a starting SS. The versatile Jon Berti is currently at the top of Miami’s depth chart but he is better served as their “Swiss Army Knife”. Anderson was awful last year but he steadily hit over .300 the previuos 4 seasons including a MLB best .335 in 2019. Anderson could be an intriguing double play partner to pair with 2B Luis Arráez who led all of MLB with his .354 BA last year after taking the NL crown in 2022 with a .316 average.
There’s still a chance TA7 could return to the White Sox as their starting 2B and push recently acquired Nicky Lopez into their top utility infielder role where he is better served. Anderson might also be an intriguing candidate to fill the White Sox long standing hole in RF.
@asap The only way Tim winds up in a Sox uniform is if no other team wants him. He hated it on the Sox, undoubtedly and understandably. A loser owner, manager, GM, and organization from top to bottom. Sox have to be top 5 of least desirable teams any decent player or human being would want to play for.
Surely at least one team will pony up at least 5M on a prove it deal for Tim. I mean his upside is way better than this 34 year old pitcher with a career best WAR of 1.6.
Teams don’t want to sign cancers. TA may not get a job offer, and definitely not to play SS. You definitely wouldn’t pair him with a weak defensive 2B, and a weak defensive 3B.
Tim Anderson is very talented but is emotionally unhinged. With all the teams that could use him passing, You just have to assume he’s just not worth the drama he brings. It’s not like the Sox couldn’t use a .300 hitter. I wonder if silently he’s a clubhouse problem and word has gotten around. When guys who have played with him and leave start talking, It doesn’t take long for it to get passed around the league. There’s more to it than talent, Starting fights with everyone plus the injuries, You have to figure teams feel he’s just not worth the aggravation.
It’s true that a prime goal of new GM Chris Getz is to change the culture in the White Sox clubhouse. He could have started that process by firing 2023 manager Pedro Grifol but I guess his “Royals” connection was just too much. That said, Getz also wants the White Sox to become more athletic and versatile defensively. Anderson could provide both of those elements.
Former Royals free agent Whitt Merrifield has often been linked to the White Sox this offseason as a fit for 2B and/or RF. Whitfield will turn 35 next week and is 4-1/2 years older than Anderson who will be 31 in June. Merrifield has a very similar offensive profile to TA7 as a high BA, high contact hitter with some pop and the athleticism to be an impact base stealer. Merrifield began his Royals tenure as their primary 2B before transitioning to a more versatile “Swiss Army Knife” role. Perhaps Anderson can flourish in a similar role as he enters the next phase of his MLB career.
As I first stated, I expect Anderson’s preference is to remain a SS, something he may be able to do with the Marlins. It’s still possible he could take a regular starting role for a team needing a 2B or perhaps even the one I suggested as a more verdsatile player going forward.
Atheltic means both offense and defense.
Athletic(s) is Tim Andersons destiny. Maybe people will show up to the games if they know there’s a possibility for a boxing match at 2nd base.
If the Sox want Anderson back its apparently because they like paying him for sitting on the bench with a ‘injury’ and like to see if other players can get hurt in meaningless brawls that he starts.
Correction: Luis Arráez did win a batting title in 2022 but it was the AL crown with the Twins before his trade to the Marlins last January. 🙂
ASapsFables: TA7 will make those who think he’s finished eat their words. No way he’s coming back to the Sox and he shouldn’t. Once he gets away from the negative attitude that is the White Sox, he’ll play like his old self again. I would love to see him with the Marlins. I think that’s a good fit. And I’ll be able to see him and Burger when the Marlins are on national TV. Maybe Arraez and TA, as former batting champions, can push each other so the Marlins might have two .350+ hitters.
I’m a Sox fan that’s GLAD that TA isn’t returning. TA has said that he’s open to playing 2B.
Tim Anderson was his own enemy. It had nothing to do with the White Sox organization. Anderson signed that team friendly extension then he was pawned the face of the franchise where he and his wife were involved in charity work in Chicago. The publicity got to Anderson’s head where he demanded another extension while under a current contract. Anderson’s fame brought in groupies where he had an affair on his wife and had a child out of wedlock. It’s plain and simple that Anderson could not handle the pressure playing in Chicago for the past three seasons. Anderson was not injured last season, he had to deal with marriage issues off the field where it he affected him mentally. Odds are he will be dealing with whatever team he goes on.
Exactly.
@Avenger: I think the chances are far better wherever he winds up there will be drama and the same minimal output we saw in 23.
Im guessing Im not alone in that assessment. I mean there is a reason he is not signed yet and I doubt its because he is taking time to select the offer he wants. I think if Anderson goes on the record to get counseling for his issues then someone may take a chance on him for a prove it deal, but its not going to be a team that wants to win (and therefore does not want distractions)..I’m guessing he is holding out hope that the Tigers, Royals, or Twins (Guessing he is not going to the Indians) take him on so he can ‘show’ the White Sox up, but I’m doubting any of those teams would want him, regardless of where he would play on the field.
I would love when people come on here saying the White Sox are cheap and don’t spend money on free agents! In all reality, spending money on free agents does not guarantee anything. Just look at the Yankees, Mets, and Padres. At least the Phillies made it to the World Series and the Rangers won one after making a splash. All eyes are on the Dodgers this season and will be comical if they get knocked out in the first round or miss the post season due to lack of having a solid rotation.
Its actually quite simple to follow for those that do not drink the kool aid. If a GM goes out, and spends large on a FA who by general consensus is a great player and that player does not pan out (or freak injury or whatever), its more the player or bad luck, at least the GM tried to improve the club greatly.
When you have a culture of trying to outguess everyone and get lucky in bringing in players that may have a lucky streak for a season or two, or were good 5-10 seasons ago, but hoping for a bounce back season you have the White Orgs mantra for the past 20+ seasons with one insanely lucky season of 05.
You are right, the major moves may not work, but you have to try. Its what separates the consistent winners from the consistent losers.
Jerry is the evil this team must overcome, otherwise they are never going to get better players. The highest hope they have for anybody they sign is that they can flip them for a mediocre prospect later. This for a team coming off 100 losses, that has won a playoff series in one season under Jerry’s 4 decade ownership, with one full season over .500 in the past 10. Sell. The. Damn. Team.
Jerry is building a new stadium amd neighborhood in the South Loop. Value of team will increase substantially and then comes the sale.
For the past ten years Jerry wanted to build around Guaranteed Rate Field just east and south of the stadium where the Wentworth Gardens have been at. Jerry is playing hard ball now to get what he really wants. There is no need for public housing to be near a sports facility especially when there is crime there all of the time.
There’s been public housing around Comiskey Park for how many years now. If it wasn’t needed, it wouldn’t be there.
No, JR wanted the fans to spend their money inside the ballpark.
Fantastic food and drink by the way! Best in baseball.
BeeTeeVee: I hope they have a referendum where we can vote whether we want our tax dollars used for an unnecessary new stadium. Let him use his own billions that he doesn’t spend on players on his new toy.
Yeah, keep saying that enough and it may become true.. You also likely lose a bunch of businesses and workers from the place the old stadium was. So it really balances out. The only thing that happens is a sweet heart deal for ‘the Chairman’ and some construction jobs for a bit of time, but not much permanent. Never mind you also have another part of town only going to get worse because of the old stadium that few if any will use.
The guy has a rubber arm and a great sense of humor. ChiSox fans should be happy about this. It’s not the big move you might’ve wanted but Brebbia is a solid bullpen addition.
Right now he’s probably the Closer.
Maybe he can warm up the sparse crowds before each game with an opening act to display his comedic talents.
Well THIS is the move that will get the city of Chicago and the state to pony up a 1B+ to build them a new stadium for ‘The Chairman’….
I hate to see the team sold as it means the team would likely be gutted by the new owner, but now is the best time, from a fan perspective, to do it. Pretty much the team has already been gutted and replaced with cheap players, and squeezed by the current owner (miser) for what he can get out of it so the rebuild is here, meaning the new owner would not have much to do, but at least the new owner would not be senile enough to think that the team as its constructed now (or over the last 15 years) is enough to warrant a new stadium and would be building a proven contender for any such consideration.
Not a bad signing at all, 11k per 9 and a 3.93 FIP last year. He was even better in 2022!
Trades for relievers are allowed. I’m not seeing why almost nobody got traded from the BP this offseason. If BP valuations are so different, teams can trade RP prospects for MLB RPs.
He should sent a nice gift to Andrew Bailey
No complaints for signing a legit vet bullpen arm that is a well liked by teammates. Getz turning around the vibe in the clubhouse and establishing a positive culture is an important task given their dysfunction. Brebba could potentially be flipped ala Middleton for an arm like Juan Carela…the type of gamble that should be taken every year.
True but I want the Sox to sign a left batter with a good walk rate, good power, average, defense,etc.
Juan Carela? The guy with a lifetime 13-23 record and mid 4 ERA in high A?
Don’t get my wrong, I get you flip the pitcher for whatever, but the Sox should not be seriously using this as their game plan to somehow replenish their ineptly run minor league system as most of these guys are not panning out for anything.
I get the dream of some fans to see their middling relief pitcher somehow go for some ace starter or stud position player, but Hahn has left the league and not with another team, so you are not getting a ‘Tatis’ for a ‘James Shields’, (though now that we now know what we know, I have a feeling that was also a KW move overriding Hahn). Plus the guy who ran the development dept into the ground (further anyway) is now the GM.
I’m not predicting Carela to be an ace, but he has one truly electric pitch and advanced metrics show he could potentially become an effective reliever at the very least. His minor league W-L record and low minors ERA are irrelevant, especially internationals…young pitchers often aren’t allowed to go over 2-3 innings, negating chances for wins.
His performance in Winston-Salem was nearly outstanding, where the only two games he got hit happened after shaky defense, against good offenses (Tex & ATL) the third time around the order. He’s frankly a better prospect than several righties in their top 30…definitely worth churning a vet MR like Middleton, or Hill/Brebbia/etc.
So, the Sox replace Bummer with a better pitcher who will be paid less, and received Soroka, Lopez and a few players for minor league depth?
Not bad.
Not bad at all, but I have a feeling Bummer will bounce back and when he is on he is a really good arm. Don’t forget his fip was 3.50, he got very very unlucky. If Soroka can stay healthy he can be a 4th starter for you guys (big if though, unfortunately the guy seems made of glass. I don’t think 2019 Soroka will ever show himself again, which sucks because he’s a really likeable guy.
It never hurts to add depth. Nicky Lopez is an upgrade for TA both offense and defense. DRS is 9 along with Dejong.
Yeah I actually like Nicky Lopez, he put up w 4 war season as a league average hitter a couple years ago. Hopefully he actually gets some playing time in Chicago, I’d argue he has more upside than Dejong.
Would of led the Sox last season. I rather see him play 2nd. He could be our best 2B in a long time.
Aside from the glaring difference of one is a left handed pitcher (Bummer) and one is a right handed pitcher?
I have a feeling that Bummer just needs to be on a better team playing for something (and having a better pitching coach). I cannot image morale on the White Sox was very good considering how everything aired out and then the admission by the manager of being inept and not being able to read a room.
You’re right. He bats left and throws right… I thought he was a lefty.
You only have to be better than the Twins, Tigers, Indians and Royals…can’t say any of the moves they made concern me.
Sox record for 2023; no change in the pitching coach or manager level; and only a decrease in the hitting dept of the players on the field. Yeah, keep riding on that thought, it worked so well last season.
Even if the Sox win, whats the point of being barely good enough to win a bad division only to get laughed out of the playoffs (aside from a bit more revenue to the Chairman’s wallet which likely will not go back into the team or even to the stadium he wants)? Sounds like Reinsdorf thought processes.
Uhhh Barry, if a city or state decides to kick in some money that is their choice. If they decide not to and another city offers a superior package, then that city might win. That’s how the cookie crumbles and it’s nothing ridiculous. Just business. Better than playing kings and peasants again.
Giants will miss Brebbia
I’m waiting for SNELL to sign and THIS is our late night treat??!!!!
Huh
I still don’t understand why, when people post complaints about their favorite teams’ mismanagement of money , greedy ownership, etc, other people hurl insulting comments at them, calling them whiny, childish,in need of a nap, etc. And yet, I’m reasonably sure that many of you that post these insults, complain when you watch your team blow a late lead, or the starter gets lit up for the 3rd straight time, etc. People get blasted for expecting better performance, off the field, from management and ownership, but it’s okay to “whine” when your team is performing poorly on the field. Kinda hypocritical, in my opinion.
Still no RF.
Why do you care about Snell so much? He’s a mid rotation starter, coming off a great year. He won’t change a teams outlook in proportion to how he will change a teams payroll.