A year after spending north of $400MM in free agency, the Padres spent a total of $50MM on free agents this offseason, adding just $9.35MM to the 2024 payroll. Indeed, in an effort to slash the budget, president of baseball operations A. J. Preller made most of his biggest acquisitions on the trade market. The Padres added Michael King, Jhony Brito, Kyle Higashioka, Randy Vásquez, and Drew Thorpe from the Yankees in exchange for Juan Soto and Trent Grisham, and several months later, they used Thorpe as one of the headlining pieces in a trade for White Sox starter Dylan Cease. They also brought in Enyel De Los Santos from the Guardians in exchange for Scott Barlow.
However, those weren’t the only notable trades Preller pursued. Throughout the offseason, the Padres were reported to have shown interest in dealing for ace pitcher Corbin Burnes and outfielders Sal Frelick and Jarren Duran. Now, you can add Luis Arraez and Jesús Luzardo to that list of targets. According to Ken Rosenthal and Dennis Lin of The Athletic, the Padres made “a strong offer” for Arraez this spring, and they might have been even more interested in Luzardo – at least until they dealt for Cease in mid-March.
While it never seemed all that likely the Marlins would part with Luzardo this offseason, he was the subject of significant trade interest. The Yankees, Dodgers, and Orioles were all reported to have checked in on the southpaw. Like all three of those clubs, the Padres were seeking starting pitching this winter, so it hardly comes as a shock that they had their on eye Luzardo. The 26-year-old made 32 starts last year with a 3.58 ERA and 208 strikeouts. His 3.69 SIERA would have led the Padres rotation, while many of his other numbers would have ranked second behind the now-departed Blake Snell. With a $5.5MM salary for 2024 and three full seasons of team control remaining, he was an ideal trade candidate, especially for a team looking to reduce payroll while still fielding a competitive roster.
That the Padres were so interested in Arraez is much more surprising. Like Luzardo, he is a young but proven player with a salary well below his value on the open market. However, he was not the subject of any substantive trade rumors over the winter. Moreover, he plays the infield, arguably the only area San Diego didn’t need to upgrade. While the Padres were linked to several outfielders on the free agent and trade markets, the Padres seemed set with Jake Cronenworth at first base, Xander Bogaerts at second, Ha-Seong Kim at shortstop, and, eventually, Manny Machado at third. That doesn’t leave much room for another All-Star infielder.
As Rosenthal and Lin suggest, the Padres might have hoped to trade Cronenworth and play Arraez at first. However, Cronenworth’s seven-year, $80MM contract that began this season simultaneously makes him inexpensive (in terms of annual salary) yet still rather difficult to trade. Alternatively, the Friars might have been more worried about Machado’s ability to play third base this year than they let on. They could have been planning to move Bogaerts back to shortstop, slide Kim over to third, and plug Arraez in at second. When Machado was healthy enough to return, Arraez could have taken over primary DH duties. Finally, it’s possible Preller simply saw an opportunity to add a star talent on a low salary and chose to make an offer and figure the rest out later. Too much talent is hardly a bad problem to have, and the Padres seem to like stockpiling infielders.
Rosenthal and Lin do not suggest Miami was actively shopping Arraez. However, their report implies that Preller’s offer was enough to tempt Marlins president of baseball operations Peter Bendix. Needless to say, Bendix didn’t pull the trigger, but according to Rosenthal and Lin, that was largely because he “feared [the Marlins] could not adequately replace Arraez.” The report does not address how close the Padres might have come to landing Luzardo before ultimately acquiring Cease; it’s not clear if Bendix ever seriously considered sending Luzardo to San Diego.
The Fish aren’t off to a good start if they’re hoping to contend in 2024. Still, they’re under no immediate pressure to trade either Arraez or Luzardo, arguably their two best (healthy) players. Arraez has another year of arbitration eligibility remaining in 2025, while Luzardo will be eligible for arbitration through the 2026 campaign.
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CardsFan57
The Marlins aren’t likely to trade starters. They’re getting a little thin in that area.
sorengo99
Jesus, a Father?
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Correct, Jesus IS the Father.
Blue Baron
Only if you’re Christian.
Brew88
Or one of Jesus Alou’s five children
sfes
Oh right, and Peter Pan and the tooth fairy are real too?
Blue Baron
@Prospectnvstr: No, he’s your god, or the son of your god, or whatever you call him.
YOU choosing to believe that is a choice only YOU can make for yourself, not for me or anyone else.
Not everyone is Catholic or Protestant or whatever you call yourself. Where I’m from, you’re a goy.
You have no right to proselytize and try to impose your beliefs on anyone else.
main benjammin
We’re all sons of god
User 401527550
Please chill with your anti Christian bigotry every time someone says the name Jesus.
JRamHOF
You’re allowed to call us “goy” but get offended when we say that Jesus is King. Okay
Blue Baron
Calling BS on proselytizing is not anti-Christian bigotry.
Blue Baron
Saying “Jesus is King” is proselytizing.
Goy is a Yiddish word for a non-Jew. It’s descriptive, not pejorative.
drasco036
Jesus is responsible for more hate, death and destruction in this world than anything else. That IS the truth whether YOU this to believe this or not. YOU worship hate.
JRamHOF
Source?
JRamHOF
How dare we proclaim what we believe?
drasco036
Hate speech shouldn’t be allowed on any forum
Spanish conquistadors
Spanish Inquisition
Crusades
Holocaust
The genocide of native Americans.
Countless hate crimes.
Brew’88
@drascoo. A lot of Darwin Awards were given out in those skirmishes
Blue Baron
JRamHOF: If you proclaim that, don’t get offended when we respond.
drasco036
Be careful, as history has shown us, if you disagree with Christians they become extremely violent.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Sorry about creating a big stink here. I just thought it was a great play on words an a cute response. Oops.
Yes Red Baron only if you’re a christian. The wonderful thing is we get to choose whatever we want.
Go red sox, I’ll be at Fenway opening day and can’t wait !! So far so good, I wonder how long this will last lol. Bullpen is nuts and the starters have come through as well.
Jesus Luzardo sure was a hot name before the season began. After the free agent crickets I thought perhaps Boston would make a play for him. Oh well hopefully our young arms come through.
drasco036
Don’t fret, both players will likely be available at the trade deadline.
Blue Baron
@main benjamin: That depends on your definition and description of god, and it doesn’t apply to women.
Blue Baron
@drasco: Funny thing is that Christianity was a denomination of Judaism before going off the rails with the myth of resurrection in defiance of natural law.
Raysasineppswasplanted
And what can we call what you just did?. So you have a right to try to proselitize your Godless ideas but not others? Give me a break you hypocrite!!!
drasco036
Better to be a hypocrite than an idiot
BringBackDunkeroos
Your imaginary friend is no more tangibly real or true than the next guys imaginary friend. You telling someone that yours is a matter or fact with no actual physical evidence is more absurd than the Pirates opening the season with a 5 game winning streak.
drasco036
Jesus was Jewish but the Jewish faith was wrong per Christians…
rememberthecoop
And which one would you be?
Blue Baron
Yet Judaism has been around a lot longer, and much of Christian theology and ritual was taken from Judaism.
Compare, for example, the Passover seder ritual of the wine representing the lamb’s blood smeared on the doorposts of Jewish homes and the matzah representing the paschal lamb with the holy communion ritual of the wine representing the blood of Jesus, the “lamb of god,” and the wafer representing the body of said lamb.
Totally derivative of Judaism.
rememberthecoop
Cubs fanboys…
User 401527550
You started well before that and do it every time. We get it. You hate Christians. I’m not religious at all but you go into an anti Christian rant every chance you get.
pirateking24
Can you prove he isn’t real?
Blue Baron
I don’t hate Christians. I have some in my family.
However, I am amazed that an entire theological system was built on a shaky foundation of belief in physically impossible events.
Have a good time being Christian. No hatred here, just astonishment at it.
Blue Baron
@pirateking: He was real. A real Jewish person who lived and died 2,000 years ago, and later elevated in myth.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Sorry voice to text.. Blue Baron came out Red Baron. I apologize.
Yes but I believe in a being greater than I created all this. Honestly makes more sense than an explosion of nothing 4 billion years ago, and then a blob crawled out of the water and found something to eat and have sex with. Then it became a tomato, then a giraffe and here we are.
To me that takes way more faith than a God, who always existed, creating everything. But to each his own and that’s, like I said, the Great thing and freedom we have. I appreciate your comments.
sfes
Drasco is right. The Bible is primitive, pro genocide/incest nonsense written by ignorant goat herding savages. The gospels contradict eachother and most of the myths are either laughable, copied from older civilizations, or both. I don’t care if you worship a cantaloupe. I still have the right to tell you how dumb it is.
sfes
You can’t prove the tooth fairy isn’t real either. Doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense.
sfes
Drasco is right. The Bible is primitive, pro genocide/incest nonsense written by ignorant goat herding savages. The gospels contradict eachother and most of the myths are either laughable, copied from older civilizations, or both. I don’t care if you worship a cantaloupe. I still have the right to tell you how dumb it is.
main benjammin
To be fair, his followers and the exploitative industry of Christianity are to blame
main benjammin
It can apply to women. The Christians need to stop trying to colonize. You’re annoying the normal people
Blue Baron
No it doesn’t. Women aren’t sons.
You could have said children, but you chose not to.
And what does “normal” even mean? I’m as normal by my definition as you are by your definition.
Yoyosoxsox
Is this just coming up? I see this bs more In the last year than I have my whole life. How sad your life must be if someone says God u get defensive. If it’s that bad, like he wronged u, u should already know what to do.
Yoyosoxsox
U sound like fun. This is a baseball page, let’s keep it that way. When people say stuff like this I just imagine that their life is just unbearable. I could be wrong but that’s what comes to mind. Utter despair
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Why even continue? It’s a baseball forum.
sfes
An imaginary man can’t wrong you. Tbh life is better without religion threatening you with eternal torture for thought crimes, but you’re right. Sorry, it’s a baseball forum and I overstepped. Back to baseball. Mets suck again, what else is new?
Prospectnvstr
Technically, He is the son.
Blue Baron
And the dude’s been dead for more than 2,000 years.
Blue Baron
@Prospectnvstr: No, technically and physically, he was the son conceived by Joseph and Mary. A nice Jewish boy.
The son of god narrative is just a Christian thing.
oldguyG
Father and Jesus are one.
Blue Baron
@oldguyG: In your opinion according to your beliefs.
sorengo99
No, Preller couldn’t close the deal.
El Niño
Here come all the Preller haters using incomplete, if not inaccurate, information to resurrect their favorite narrative.
DarrenDreifortsContract
What have the Padres ever accomplished to have haters?
truthlemonade
The Mariners are trying to tear SD down to avoid being the franchise with the sorriest history.
ohyeadam
Marlins have a big hole at SS. One year of HSK and what for Arraez?
Gwynning
Other way around, Arraez and what for Ha-Seong?
ohyeadam
Thought Kim was a FA after this season but BRef shows him arb eligible for two more years?
2 years of Arraez > 1 year of Kim
2 years of Arraez > 2 years of Kim
Bat > glove
Kim is a really good player but so is Arraez
mark1623
Kim is a free agent after this year.
Rally Goose
Kim is a free agent after this season. BBRef is on crack.
Longtimecoming
There is a mutual option in the contract so he isn’t listed as a FA until 2026.
No, the mutual option never gets triggered so, he will be expected to be a FA after this season but he isn’t yet.
Deleted Userr
Arraez has more trade value because of the extra year of control. Not going to matter though. The Marlins have ZERO interest in Kim the rental.
PadresWSChamps2025
Not happening. Only teams that are certifiably playoff bound will have any interest in trading for HSK in any context. If the Marlins are in fact certifiably playoff bound they’re not trading their best hitter for anything. What sense does that make?
2NA
Big name reporters don’t mention the Marlins at all last year but they go 0-7 and they all start making up trade rumors and narratives
lamars
Making up trade rumors? The article provided a link that outlines their interest in Arrez, Frelick and Barnes that was dated from Feb. 15th.
amk1920
Because they don’t have enough middle infielders
truthlemonade
As a Padres fan, I wonder how they would have positioned the five players of: Machado, Kim, Bogaerts, Cronenworth, Arraez.
Maybe 4 start in the infield and everyday someone is at DH or on the bench?
Maybe SD would have traded Kim. I am happy that Kim was able to be a sort of ambassador for MLB for two games in South Korea to start the season. Even then, I did wonder if SD would have traded Kim after those first two games this year.
Gwynning
I suspect the idea was Kim to 3rd until Manny is ready, Bogey SS, Jake 2nd and Arraez 1B.
Deleted Userr
No point in waiting until right after the Korea series to trade Kim. You do that and acquiring teams will not receive the right to QO him and will adjust their offers accordingly. If you’re not going to trade him before the regular season starts you might as well keep him and see how the team plays. His trade value in July will be more or less the same as it is now.
HiredGun23
Woulda, coulda, shoulda but didn’t…let us move on.
Brew88
Marlins would have pried one or two of Merrill, Snelling or Lesko, plus other prospects like Pauley, Mazur, Head and Marsee for Luzardo. The Pads instead picked up Cease without losing any of those guys so maybe theyre better off?
Plus, every team wants Luzardo, so the price would be so high.
Unless he can play LF, Arraez would have been an awkward fit with Manny out or not, and would have also blocked Pauley completely.
ATastefulPaintingofTwoDogsDoingIt
Marlins try to demote Kim Ng, she quits, Marlins suck again.
All those simpletons screaming diversity hire must be pissed. Especially now that they’re forced to bend their dicks to Peter Bendix.
DTrainSTA
I agree that anyone calling Ng a diversity hire was an idiot but she has quite a bit of blame for the situation the Marlins are in right now. She made some good moves in her time here, but being an organization that was never going to spend big(that is on our cheap owner), she essentially sold off the prospects we did have to build a team that makes the wild card and gets swept if everything goes right. Her drafting and scouting was extremely poor and has left us with not much future hope or ammunition to acquire talent through trade. I actually give ownership credit for trying to fix those areas, and that’s about all I can give them credit for.
We would not have spent demonstrably more money if she was still GM and would likely be only a little better than we are right now, which is terrible. We would have continued to add very little in terms of developmental talent and likely not re-signed the talent we have now(which is probably mostly on cheap ownership). So in a couple of years we would be left looking at only the talent we have developed which may have been decent pitching but nothing else. Ownership is the biggest problem but Ng had her fair share as well. Bendix may be even worse but that will be decided a few years from now, he could also turn us around and have us stocked on talent, we will see.
Rally Goose
How is making the wild card and getting swept the best case scenario? Once the postseason starts it’s anyone’s game. The last 3 NL pennant winners have proven this. Christ, the Marlins themselves proved that with the two titles they do have.
DTrainSTA
Because we had to have a lot of things go right to even make the wild card last year, things that are not repeatable year over year. Then we weren’t competitive once we got there because we weren’t actually anything other than a fun team who had hit their ceiling with the additions of Josh Bell and Jake Burger(good additions by Ng). Once Sandy and Eury got hurt, we had zero players who could even be considered top flight players on almost any other team in the league. Jazz can’t stay healthy and is inconsistent, Arraez is awesome at what he does but not high level at anything else, everyone else is average to below.
The truth was we got as far as we did by being a mediocre team that way over performed, winning an unsustainable amount of one run games and having paper thin depth that had no future prospects of being any better. Those previous Marlins team would destroy last years team. No one wishes we had a chance more than me, but especially once our ace went down we were not going to be competitive. With the farm system Ng left, the injuries and the ownership being unwilling to spend we were going to be way worse this year. Fire sale is about to happen and it might be for the long term good.
filihok
DTSTA
“Because we had to have a lot of things go right to even make the wild card last year,”
That’s how baseball works for the majority of the league – only teams like the Braves and Dodgers don’t have to deal with that.
DTrainSTA
Exactly, so knowing you aren’t ever going to spend big money on free agents and only having a couple players worth extending(knowing you still likely won’t), do you just accept that on your best years you will sneak into a wild card spot and lose or do you try to get to something like the Rays have built? There’s merit to both ways of thinking, but I’m personally in the boat that dealing with the reality of how this owner will spend, we are gonna have to fix the drafting, international scouting, and farm and live by our development. This team is ok enough to maybe at some point win a wild card series if guys like Jazz and Burger develop into legitimate all star level players and we stay completely healthy. If we ever want to win it all again or at least make deep playoff runs, we are gonna have to change it up drastically, which it seems like we are starting to do. It’s going to be a painful few years though.
Rsox
“Padres tried to trade for everyone”
Would have been a much shorter, more concise article
James Midway
Arraez Would have been a great pickup. It’s strange to me that after 2 batting titles that he still doesn’t get love from MLB network. In the preseason rankings they had him way lower than a back-to-back batting champion should be.
Pads Fans
He is still in play as is Luzardo. The Marlins are 0-7 and not likely to win much this season. The new GM has spent his time and money on building up the Marlins baseball operations. scouting and data analytics manpower and infrastructure. He knows that he has a long road ahead of him to contention and good prospects that are near MLB ready are worth more to him than Arraez or Luzardo.
For the Padres, the biggest issue is the CBT threshold. They could fit one of Arraez or Luzardo under the CBT threshold, but not both..
Brew’88
I doubt the Pads circle back on Luzardo after trading for Cease, unless of course there’s a major injury in the rotation, or a big performance collapse by one of the SPs (not likely). But stranger things happened. Trade deadline will be interesting this year if the Marlins continue to lose every game.
Longtimecoming
Brew, I’ll add another “if” – they will have to be in contention at deadline before a trade of high in prospects for Luzardo.
Honestly, I hope (now with Cease) that they don’t. As you said, the escaped with a lot of high end guys remaining.
I like 2025 with Musgrove, Cease, Darvish, King, Lesko, Brito, Vasquez, Mazur, Bergert all in the mix with Snelling and a few others not far behind.
The OF looks the same with Marsee, Head, Bush.
I’m going to enjoy 2024 for what it brings without being too negative or too positive. Don’t mess up my 2025 – 2030 plans though!
Brew’88
Yeah, there are a few more iffs to be sure. Hey, I have Snelling in Petco well before Lesko? Maybe later this year.
Longtimecoming
You know I think I switched them in my mind – think you are right on target there.
If no trades, Padres SP depth in 2025 should be amazing as opposed to many prior years (maybe even 2024) where the extra arms were more like #7 or 8 guys instead of a bunch of higher ceiling 2/3 guys like I mentioned.
If only 1 of Head, Marsee or Bush can be a near all star caliber CF (allowing Merrill to take SS), that is huge!
Now Yu Know
@Midway Back in the day, Tony Gwynn didn’t get very much appreciation either despite the multiple batting titles and gold gloves. Seems as though the long ball is what gets all the attention.
CrikesAlready
AG Peller will probably get stuck with a new version of the Chase Headley/Bryan Mitchell trade. They need to take on a horrible contract to get any player of consequence.
Pads Fans
No BLEEP Sherlock. Of course they did. They may still trade for one or the other.
64' Yanks
Maybe they can still sign Tommy Pham, but at $1 million?
Niekro floater
Getn as bad as Cashman’s lip service “we were in on everybody” but dont actually sign anyone. Horseshoes n handgrenades …
Mustard Tiger
Padres will be left to trades and dumpster diving from here on out. Dad took away the credit card!
Simm
Preller has done most of his work via trade anyways.
its_happening
Padres can try again in two months if Miami keeps up this pace.
MARLIN POWER 18
Even if the Marlins continue to flounder, and Bendix is willing to deal, the cost for Arraez alone would be BOTH Pauley and Merrill. Why? Because one is a proven star, and the other two – although great prospects – are not. That’s the deal. Otherwise, we just hang up the phone.
Gwynning
Knowing that is your ask, we don’t even make the call. 1.5 years of Arraez isn’t worth our Top 2 batting prospects. Perhaps we’re both being obtuse, though- I could see a deal hammered out that suits both teams, but my gut says Merrill is darn near “untouchable”
its_happening
The point I was making is the Marlins will be selling if the losing continues.
Arraez won’t get you that much but good luck with that. Maybe if he can flirt with .400 in July you’ll get that.
GarryHarris
I don’t believe a word of this rumor
Gwynning
Preller seems to dabble with “half” the players in the League, but this rumor seems fishy? Alrighty then…
Brew88
When bored with the present, there’s nothing like the past.
Signed, Ken Rosenthal
Seaver rules
Mets are on the phone!
stretch123
This feels like a rumor leaked by Miami to get the fire sale started. Sucks being a Marlins fan. When there’s a sliver of hope (playoff run in 2023), it ultimately never lasts.
Gwynning
At least y’all got some bling, something we’re dying to obtain.
stretch123
True but don’t lose hope – I actually think the Pads trade of Soto will help Pads in the long run. Huge help for you guys pitching wise. And maybe they can resign Soto this off-season the way your GM operates lol
Deleted Userr
If the Marlins do trade Arraez or Luzardo it will be exclusively for players who will be making the league minimum in 2025 so y’all can stop trying to include Ha-Seong Kim or Jake Cronenworth in your “Arraez/Luzardo to Padres” trade proposals now 🙂
Brew’88
Right on harambe. Or even deeper prospects who won’t yet make league minimum in 2025
Deleted Userr
I feel like people who mention Kim in their Arraez to Padres proposals are just throwing out random names that they would be open to trading without stopping to consider the wants and needs of the other team. And then they’ll often say something stupid like “The Marlins need everything.” The Marlins need a lot of things, but a rental isn’t one of them.
Brew’88
Assuming Kim is able to replicate 2023 stats through mid-July, I wonder what he can fetch at trade deadline from a contender with a SS need? Assuming of course that the Pads are 5-10 games out of playoff spot at that point.
Deleted Userr
BTV has a him at a 20.4. Obviously a prolonged hot or cold spell can change that but if he plays to his career averages I don’t see his trade value changing all that much between now and the deadline. If they are going to trade him they should have done it before the season started so the other team could extend a qualifying offer. Let’s not pretend teams don’t bake that into what they are willing to give up for a player.
Rally Goose
There’s no way the Padres were trading Kim before the Korea series!
Deleted Userr
@RG Oh wow a 2-game series where he went hitless y’all are so hype!
Brew’88
Bet they remain competitive (for a WC) and he’s not traded and plays out the season. Or they try to extend him, but only if they plan to exceed the (reset) cap next season. Kim is great, but I’m not sure he’s worth a long-term deal over $15M AAV
Rays in the Bay
Just like the Rays tried to sign Freddie Freeman 2 years ago.
Tom the ray fan
We locked up a pedophile unfortunately and now we’re broke till we can terminate his contract.
conquerbeard
As a Sox fan, I wonder who they offered up for Duran, or if it even got that far? I’ve liked Duran for a while now, but I have no idea what is value is (I’m genuinely terrible at stuff like that). For what it ‘s worth, I’m glad they didn’t give him up and I hope he keeps up this stolen base pace, but can’t say I’m not at least curious.
filihok
cb
“I have no idea what is value is (I’m genuinely terrible at stuff like that).”
No worries. So are most of the people who post here.
The Baseball Trade Values site is a good place to start.
baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator
They have Duran worth $34 million. Which is pretty valuable.
conquerbeard
filihok:
Thanks for the link – I appreciate it!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Padres are wild… so much change every year
MLBTR needs to hire editors
“… and, eventually, Manny Machado at third.“
Literally no need for commas around eventually. They’re there for no reason.