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Orioles Notes: Holliday, Means, Kremer

By Nick Deeds | June 15, 2024 at 6:14pm CDT

The Orioles placed Jackson Holliday on the minor league injured list yesterday. Despite the lack of impact on the club’s active roster, the move nonetheless raised eyebrows thanks to Holliday’s status as the consensus #1 overall prospect in the sport. Fortunately, club GM Mike Elias told reporters (including MASN’s Melanie Newman) that Holliday is dealing with a “barking” shoulder but that the issue isn’t serious and that he’s expected to need only a “few weeks” of rest before he returns to action.

That’s surely a relief for fans in Baltimore, as Holliday figures to join fellow youngsters like Gunnar Henderson, Adley Rutschman, and Grayson Rodriguez as a key part of the core for the Orioles going forward once he establishes himself at the big league level. The 20-year-old infielder got his first taste of big league action earlier this year but struggled badly with a with just two hits in 36 trips to the plate across ten games. That tough stretch led the Orioles to send Holliday back to the minors, and he’s continued to hit well at the Triple-A level since his return with a .252/.418/.429 slash line in 189 trips to the plate.

That being said, Holliday has struggled (at least by his own lofty standards) in the month of June so far, hitting just .212 with a 26.7% strikeout rate and a .394 slugging percentage, although his proclivity for drawing walks has allowed him to remain productive over all. Between the youngster’s relative struggles and his apparent elbow issue, it’s hardly a surprise that the Orioles have decided to play it safe with their prized prospect. Fortunately for fans in Baltimore, the Orioles lineup has played incredibly well to this point in the season and is hardly in need of reinforcements. The club’s 116 wRC+ is the third best figure in baseball this year, and Jorge Mateo has posted a decent .236/.281/.441 (103 wRC+) slash line while getting the lion’s share of playing time at Holliday’s likely long term position of second base.

In other news around the Orioles, southpaw John Means recently underwent his second Tommy John surgery in just over two years after making four starts for Baltimore late in the 2023 campaign and another four starts this year. Despite the surely frustrating physical setbacks, however, Means recently told reporters (including Rich Dubroff of Baltimore Baseball) that he fully intends to return to pitching after he completes his post-surgery rehab, which will sideline him for the entire 2024 season and much of 2025.

“I still want to pitch, honestly,” Means said (per Dubroff). “I’d like to fail on the field before I give it up. I feel like if I go there, I can still pitch and get outs. I still feel really confident about my ability. I have to have my elbow keep up.”

For all of Means’s struggles in terms of staying on the field, he’s certainly been effective when healthy. The southpaw has a career 3.68 ERA with a 4.56 FIP across his 401 innings of work in the majors, and although he’s managed just ten starts since the beginning of the 2022 campaign he’s been nothing short of excellent in them with a 2.75 ERA and 3.99 FIP in 52 1/3 innings of work. Given those strong results, it’s not hard to imagine Means, 31, returning to action as an effective and valuable starter once he’s finally healthy. It’s unclear whether or not that return will come in an Orioles uniform, however, as the lefty is set to become a free agent after the 2024 campaign.

With Means and Tyler Wells both sidelined by UCL surgery and ace righty Kyle Bradish dealing with UCL issues of his own, the Baltimore rotation is in a bit of a tough spot. While Corbin Burnes and Rodriguez combine to form a strong top of the rotation, the club has been left to rely on Cole Irvin, Cade Povich, and Albert Suarez to round out the group due to a number of injuries. Fortunately, help could be on the way soon for the club as MLB.com’s Injury Tracker notes that right-hander Dean Kremer is expected to begin a rehab assignment with a “40-ish” pitch outing tomorrow.

MLB.com goes on to note that it remains up in the air whether or not Kremer will need another rehab start before returning to the Orioles, meaning the 28-year-old could potentially return to action for the club as soon as sometime late next week. The return of Kremer, who has been on the injured list for a little less than a month due to a triceps strain, would provide reliable innings for the Orioles pitching staff. Since the start of the 2022 season, Kremer has pitched to a solid 3.83 ERA (103 ERA+) with a 4.30 FIP in 348 innings of work for Baltimore.

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  1. geotheo

    1 year ago

    In a Royals uniform? He is currently with the Orioles although he did grow up a Royals fan.

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    • geotheo

      1 year ago

      See you fixed it

      Reply
  2. LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

    1 year ago

    Mike Elias, the worst GM in baseball. Came into the season with a rotation that he knew wasn’t any good outside of Burns. How do you rely on Kyle Bradish and injury prone John Means? I just don’t get it. They have all these prospects that they don’t need that could have been traded for guys like Cease, Luzardo, Glasnow, etc. Last years deadline he sat back and did nothing unlesd you think that Jack Flaherty is a needle mover. I understand the Orioles rely on low payrolls. The team has prospects that can be traded for good starting pitchers with low salaries. The Elias strategy is to lose, get draft picks, and sit back. His “best farm system
    in baseball” relied on the team finishing in last place for 5 straight years. How are people fooled by this guy? I don’t get it

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    • gorav114

      1 year ago

      Maybe it’s the .657 winning percentage this season that the fans like?

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    • skinsfandfw

      1 year ago

      Do you just copy/paste this on every single Orioles post?

      You do know the Orioles have a top 3 ERA in all of MLB, right?

      They also have the 3rd best record in all of MLB. Maybe as a Mets fan, you’re just not that into checking the standings that often. I wouldn’t either if I was you.

      Also – it’s Burnes.

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      • Paleobros

        1 year ago

        Haha sick burne

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      • LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

        1 year ago

        @skinsfandfw It doesnt matter how many games that the Orioles win in the regular season, they arent close to winning a World Series

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        • pohle

          1 year ago

          thats because its june and the world series happens in october

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      • LongTimeFan1

        1 year ago

        @skinsfandfw –

        LGFMets doesn’t represent Mets fans but may be more representative of troll. LGF’s claim Elias is worst GM in baseball is giant clue.

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    • Os1995

      1 year ago

      Dude just say you don’t know baseball. There are tons of people here who will gladly explain the game to you

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    • scottbour

      1 year ago

      Typical Mets fan, you don’t know your ass from a hole in the wall. The Mets haven’t won anything in decades.

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      Reply
    • Arnoldpsufan

      1 year ago

      Obvious you know nothing about the Orioles or Elias.

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    • SewaldSwansonSwoon

      1 year ago

      What a dumb, shamefully ignorant comment. Lolmets.

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    • SkenesandSlopes

      1 year ago

      Orioles won over 100 games and then added Burnes with upcoming players like Cowser and emerging studs like Gunnar.. They are now in a great position to trade for starting pitchers in a month. If they do not make a trade for a top arm, go nuts on Elias and his staff. Not now.

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    • dm867

      1 year ago

      Gotta be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on this thread. Gotta be satire. And who upvoted this moron???

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      • Edp007

        1 year ago

        Thinking the exact same thing. Satire or the dumbest comment ever.
        Still not sure which lol

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    • sorengo99

      1 year ago

      I can see why you’re consistently banned. When do we see the expert part?

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    • Orioles_Rising

      1 year ago

      This guy is obviously a troll. He’s just posting whatever he can to get a rise out of you all. He doesn’t necessarily believe in anything he’s writing. He gets pleasure from getting attention from folks on comment boards. Just move on, and ignore this one.

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    • letitbelowenstein

      1 year ago

      I know fans of 27 or 28 other teams that would salivate over the possibility of their club getting Elias.

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    • gcg27

      1 year ago

      Sure glad I have the worst GM I. Baseball.. your a fool

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    • seriouslysteve

      1 year ago

      Yeah I’d be bitter too if I was a Mets fan. You finally put all together with spending out the butt with your new owner and you guys FAILED. We got a new owner and continue to rake. So you had to sell it all for prospects and pay the guys still and you have the gull to run you mouth about Mike Elias. You better pray your big money owner pays to pry him from us cause you ain’t doing anything with those phils and braves who know how to run organizations

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  3. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 year ago

    Woof

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  4. scruffmcgruff

    1 year ago

    You really feel for Means right there especially after those comments. Biased as an O’s fan a bit but hopefully these guys can make a comeback, Hate to see all these injuries to outstanding athletes going on almost daily.

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  5. Edp007

    1 year ago

    Add Bradish today too

    Reply
  6. Irishblade

    1 year ago

    So is it a barking shoulder or an apparent elbow injury??

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    • letitbelowenstein

      1 year ago

      No. It’s a mashup of “Stupid pet tricks” and “Stupid human tricks”. Very entertaining.

      Reply
  7. Orioles_Rising

    1 year ago

    Holliday is fine. They’re being extra cautious with him for obvious reasons. It’s not like he’s a pitcher.

    The Bradish injury though, that’s different. I fear the worst. Platelet rich plasma injections for UCL sprains was a bit of a patch anyways. So it’s probably the same injury reaggravated.

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  8. Nosferatu Zodd

    1 year ago

    Means is an example of mininum of 18 months for rehab. If you get it in July they don’t pitch you the next year. April they will.

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  9. lesterdnightfly

    1 year ago

    His barking shoulder will keep him out till the Dog Days.

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