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Brown: Astros May Have To Get “Creative” With Payroll

By Steve Adams | October 3, 2024 at 1:43pm CDT

The Astros’ incredible run of seven consecutive runs to the American League Championship Series ended yesterday when they ran into a scorching-hot Tigers club helmed by former Houston skipper A.J. Hinch. Although the ’Stros had their shortest season since 2016 and have a number of high-profile free agents coming off the books, general manager Dana Brown and manager Joe Espada both made clear in addressing the team’s beat that there’s no plan to step back. Houston will unsurprisingly take aim at another deep postseason run next year, although the looming offseason could be one punctuated by some tighter-than-usual financial parameters.

“I think we’re going to have to make some wise decisions as to – are there younger players that we can call up and put in certain roles to maybe save some money here and … allocate that money to other places,” Brown said Thursday (X link via Matt Kawahara of the Houston Chronicle. “…We may have to get a little bit creative.”

That’s an ominous sentiment for any fan to hear from a team’s GM at the onset of the offseason. A look at Houston’s payroll, however, reveals a similarly ominous setup. The Astros opened the 2024 season with a payroll around $235MM and finished out the year north of $244MM, per RosterResource. They already have $147MM in guaranteed contracts on next year’s books (including dead-money commitments to Jose Abreu and Rafael Montero). That doesn’t include a 10-player arbitration class — headlined by Framber Valdez and Kyle Tucker — projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to cost more than $57MM. Add in pre-arbitration players to round out the roster, and the Astros are sitting around the $212MM mark next year before making a single addition.

In the absence of any notable free agent departures, perhaps that’d be workable, but the Astros will see franchise cornerstone Alex Bregman reach the open market for the first time in his career next month. Future Hall of Famer Justin Verlander is also a free agent, as is deadline pickup Yusei Kikuchi, who thrived in the Houston rotation down the stretch. Relievers Caleb Ferguson, Hector Neris and Kendall Graveman are free agents as well, as are role players Jason Heyward and Ben Gamel.

Bregman, of course, is the most notable name of the bunch. Espada plainly stated that he hopes Bregman will return and heaped praise onto the former No. 2 overall pick for not only his on-field contributions but the manner in which he’s been the heart and soul of the team’s clubhouse.

“I’ve talked a lot about how much I love the individual, the human,” Espada said of Bregman (X link via MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart). “I think what makes this team really good is the character of the people in clubhouse. He’s one of the best I’ve ever been around. I would love to have Bregman playing third base for us next year.”

Whether that’s feasible remains an open question. Teammate Jose Altuve has stumped for Bregman’s return in recent days — even before the team’s elimination — and Brown has said since being hired in the 2022-23 offseason that he hopes to keep Bregman in Houston for the entirety of his career. That talk has yet to manifest in the form of a contract, although the Astros are reportedly expected to put forth a formal offer soon. Brown doubled down on his hope of keeping Bregman and plans to talk with agent Scott Boras about a reunion (X link via McTaggart), but there are reasons to be skeptical of a deal coming to fruition.

The Astros, under owner Jim Crane, have never given out a contract longer than Yordan Alvarez’s six-year, $115MM deal — nor have they given out a contract worth a larger guarantee than Jose Altuve’s most recent $151MM extension. Josh Hader’s five-year contract is the lengthiest and largest in guaranteed money that Houston has given to a free agent under current ownership. Bregman stands as one of the top-five free agents on this season’s market, arguably the No. 2 or 3 name in this year’s class behind Juan Soto.

Hitting the market in advance of his age-31 season, Bregman will have a case for a six- or possibly seven-year deal. He’s a year younger than fellow third baseman Matt Chapman, who just inked a six-year, $151MM extension to stay in San Francisco. Seven-year guarantees for position players beginning in their age-31 season or later are rare, as shown in MLBTR’s Contract Tracker, though Marcus Semien (seven years, $175MM with the Rangers) stands as a recent prominent example.

Even if Bregman is limited to “only” six years, he’ll surely seek a larger guarantee than Chapman just received last month. Chapman didn’t have the benefit of open-market bidding, and Bregman, even if he can’t match Chapman’s wizardry with the glove, is a quality defender who has been the more consistent offensive player of the pair. In addition to the Astros, clubs like the Yankees, Tigers, Blue Jays, Mariners, Royals and Nationals could be in the market for third base help. Unexpected suitors frequently emerge in pursuit of top-tier free agents, too.

Given Bregman’s tenure with the team and value on and off the field, it’s certainly feasible that Crane could push beyond his previous comfort levels to keep him in the fold. In that case, Bregman would likely push Houston close to $240MM of payroll obligations — or at least north of $230MM on a backloaded deal. Creatively structuring the contract, however, wouldn’t impact the luxury tax in the same way it does bottom-line payroll. Luxury tax is calculated based on contracts’ average annual value; re-signing Bregman would push the Astros into tax territory for a second straight season and only the third time under Crane’s ownership.

Brown left open the door for virtually any possibility, telling reporters the Astros “are not taking anything off the table in terms of what we’ll do” (link via Chandler Rome of The Athletic). Still, it’s hard to envision a scenario where they both re-sign Bregman and add the bullpen pieces he also said will be a focus this winter (X link via McTaggart). Houston could always turn to the trade market to drop some payroll from other areas of the roster, but they surely won’t consider moving Altuve, Alvarez, Tucker or Valdez, and the contracts of Josh Hader and Lance McCullers Jr. aren’t going to draw interest from other clubs. Ryan Pressly’s remaining one year and $14MM could be movable, but flipping him would only further the need to add bullpen arms.

One area the Astros don’t seem likely to spend heavily is in the rotation. Brown called next year’s staff “stacked.” The Astros will bring back Valdez, Hunter Brown, Ronel Blanco and Spencer Arrighetti. Injured righties McCullers and Luis Garcia will hopefully be ready for the start of the season after missing all of 2024. Cristian Javier, Jose Urquidy (if he’s tendered a contract) and J.P. France could all be midseason reinforcements. Prospect Ryan Gusto, 25, had a nice season in Triple-A (3.70 ERA, 22.6 K%, 8.5 BB%, 148 1/3 innings).

It’s a group that, as of right now, doesn’t include Verlander. Brown touched on the subject of the three-time Cy Young winner (X link via McTaggart), noting that it “sounds like he wants to come back” but that he’ll “have some discussions with our front office … as to what’s best for the team.” Verlander spent much of the 2024 season on the injured list due to shoulder and neck injuries. He struggled badly enough down the stretch in his final six starts (8.89 ERA) that he wasn’t included on the team’s roster for the Wild Card Series against Detroit. With the Astros facing mounting payroll issues and already possessing a fairly deep stock of arms, a reunion may not be in the cards.

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  1. DarrenDreifortsContract

    8 months ago

    By creative he means “Cheat”.

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    • chuff

      8 months ago

      Poor thing, still crying about it almost 5 years later 🙁
      Doctors typically suggest therapy for these types of situations

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      • TheFuzzofKing

        8 months ago

        He’s a cheater and always will be. See you in another five years for a reminder.

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        • chuff

          8 months ago

          Who’s the he you’re referring to? Dana Brown? He was hired last year, AKA far removed from the cheating that still lives rent free in your head

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      • washatkc

        8 months ago

        Looks like you are the one crying. People respect the Dodgers more than that cheating Astro team. You fans keep whining because we laugh at you.

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    • bloomquist4hof

      8 months ago

      I think “Cheap” is more likely as in not spend as much as the fans want.

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      • stymeedone

        8 months ago

        If that’s the definition, every team is cheap.

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        • old elpaso

          8 months ago

          Not the Dodgers and Yankees

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    • case

      8 months ago

      Braves might have some advice on how to be creative with the international bonus pool.

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    • Mogambo

      8 months ago

      Creative bookkeeping

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  2. Saint Nick

    8 months ago

    Astros are a well run organization. They will be fine.

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    • Drasco0366

      8 months ago

      Astros were a well run organization before ownership decided to meddle in front office decisions.

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    • User 4245925809

      8 months ago

      Is the astros spacecity, space something network ok? is that maybe a reason for the apprehension??

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    • Dutch

      8 months ago

      They are but this is their biggest test in a long time. A payroll that’s at the max and an awful farm system with another year of low draft picks is a combination that usually leads to a decline. Not saying they can’t do it but they’ll have to work some magic to sustain success in 26 and beyond. 25 I think they still have a shot.

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  3. Never Remember

    8 months ago

    Bregman may have to return since every other team could pass on him because of his abrasive personality and me first attitude. Certainly not someone you want as a role model on a younger team.

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    • old elpaso

      8 months ago

      That’s why a not so young team will pay.

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  4. BabyDegenerate

    8 months ago

    My O’s will have to get creative with their roster building since they can’t pitch and can’t score runs. Oh well. Our two year playoff streak was fun while it lasted

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    • Saint Nick

      8 months ago

      Huh? O’s are just getting started man. They are gonna be legit for the foreseeable future.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        8 months ago

        I think the Orioles need a bit more of a sense of urgency. But everything is there for them to keep it going for a few more years at least. Mayo for Crochet makes sense for both teams.

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        • BabyDegenerate

          8 months ago

          Remember like 4 years ago when everyone was saying that about the Blue Jays and White Sox?

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        • Blackpink in the area

          8 months ago

          The Jays have been good except this year. They kept it going for a while. White Sox not so much they had injury problems and made some bad decisions. The White Sox have always had a problem drafting and developing players but their system looks great at the moment.

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        • stymeedone

          8 months ago

          White Sox won’t be dealing Crochet for only one player. Start with 4 legit prospects to get the conversation started.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          8 months ago

          Mayo is a top 10 overall prospect. He’s the best player the team could possibly hope to get.

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      • Cody1981

        8 months ago

        Adley looks cooked and most of their prospects looked to have been over hyped..I expect regression

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      • NYCityRiddler

        8 months ago

        They pissed away the last two seasons because they don’t have the guts and/or the sense to make a blockbuster deal & they’re too cheap to sign anyone who could make them a powerhouse for years to come. You can bet the babies milk money the same pattern will continue into the foreseeable future. They’re the Baltimore Orioles, I would expect nothing less. Ahahaha!

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      8 months ago

      I wouldn’t count out the O’s. Adley had a down year. Bautista comes back next season. A few starting pitchers will be healthy. And there’s no telling what Rubenstein will allow for payroll.

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    • Bob Sacamano 310

      8 months ago

      Deal for Crochet

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    • washatkc

      8 months ago

      You are a fake fan if you think the window is closed. That team is just getting started.

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  5. Blackpink in the area

    8 months ago

    The Astros have kept it going for a long time. They traded prospects away for short term gain and it worked but it has to end at some point. It certainly lasted longer than the Cubs rebuild so give them credit but now they are in trouble.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      8 months ago

      If they retain Bregman, Tucker has a healthy season, and Altuve keeps chugging, they’ll compete. Hader should be better. Reallocate JV’s money for reliever free agents. The first CBT threshold goes up again next year.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        8 months ago

        I don’t think they can retain Bregman and fill all their other needs. Teams need young talent to supplement the stars and their young talent is running out.

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      • thickiedon

        8 months ago

        Rather they dumpster dive and pull from minors than use JV’s $40MM+. It appears Montero has rebounded well in AAA

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    • mlb fan

      8 months ago

      The Astros moved away from a very successful blueprint that had worked for years. When they signed Hader/Abreu I pretty knew the dynasty was over.

      They could signed 2-3 good relievers for HALF what they gave Hader and would have been in much better shape to retain Bregman or Tucker or both.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        8 months ago

        Yeah the Hader contract seemed odd at the time. They just didn’t have the money long term to make that work. And obviously Abreu was a mistake.

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      • Jbigz12

        8 months ago

        You can thank Jeff Bagwell for about $30MM worth of dead money on next years roster…. Jim Crane for listening.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        8 months ago

        @mlb fan Isn’t that hindsight? They lost Luhlow who drafted well during their years of tanking. Then had low picks for years of winning. Lost two years of picks for cheating. Lost Springer, Cole, and Correa to free agency. Fired a good GM in Click. I don’t know how you expect them to sustain a competitive team without signing free agents.

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        • Ww0907

          8 months ago

          Luhnow drafted well because he got to pick early. He had the number one pick three years in a row and whiffed on two of those (Brady Aiken and Mark Appel.) He did more good than harm for sure but it’s easier to be a good drafter when you pick early. After drafting Bregman at 2 and Tucker at 5 in 2015, these were his first rounders: Forrest Whitley, JB Baukaskas or whatever, Seth Beer, and Korey Lee. When he drafted where Click and Brown drafted, he wasn’t as good. Make no mistake: Luhnow built this train and I thank him for it. But there’s like an aura around him that he was perfect; far from it. Firing Click was a big mistake, I agree with that. Click made one bad move: extending LMJ. Other than that, he was smart.

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    • Drasco0366

      8 months ago

      The Cubs were stupid after their World Series win, at least that’s my opinion. They should have played with house money in 2017, I.e. roll with the team that just won the World Series and make minor tweaks to the roster, kind of the way the Rangers handled this past season. Instead, the Cubs made a franchise altering trade, dumping Cease and Jimenez for Quintana, Soler for Davis and Paredes and Candelario for Avila and Wilson. Epstein completely decimated a strong farm system in a one year span.
      Epstein also was too loyal and refused to make the right decisions, Zobrist should have been dealt the final year of his contract and Quintana should have been traded when they brought Hamels back. The 2020 offseason should have been about trading away guys to get under the luxury tax but again, they waited a year too long.

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  6. CarolinaCubsandKush

    8 months ago

    How creative are we talking here? Would they trade Tucker to save money and bring back Bregman? Would they eat money to move Hader? (Cubs could sure use a closer…)

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    • Drasco0366

      8 months ago

      I don’t like spending big money on the bullpen but truth be told, if the Astros would trade Hader in a salary dump I would be all in.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      8 months ago

      I think they have enough starting rotation depth that they could trade Framber to perhaps free up some money for Bregs. Framber is awesome but his emotional state gets flustered easily and he gets out of whack. That’s not ideal for the postseason.

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      • Astros Hot Takes

        8 months ago

        one of the things I like about you @ignorant, besides your affinity for Captain Beefheart, is your fair-minded, objective, indeed, INFORMED Astros’ takes. Much appreciated….

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          8 months ago

          !!!!! Appreciate it kindly, and can you believe it I’m a Mariners fan to boot! And I like Alex Bregman! Woah Nelly.

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        • Astros Hot Takes

          8 months ago

          Yeah, I had gleaned your fandom of the M’s! Several Mariners’ fans around here are very pleasant; I *think* it was you, but it might have been sad, neglected who posted MONTHS ago as the Astros were creeping up in the standings that it was simply inevitable that we would overtake y’all. You have NO idea how grateful I am for these last 10 seasons, but I DID have that level – almost Jean-Paul sartre – of fated doom back in the Biggio/Bagwell days. Every season played out like another chapter of the Silmarillion, with flickers of early hope reduced to death & cinders.

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      • tigerfan1968

        8 months ago

        bregman 25 HR , u want to pay 1 million dollars a home run. silly… I agree on letting framber go., Kikucki should be cheaper…. Alvarez and Tucker and Altuve is enough for hitting… I would also consider trading Altuve if you got a decent offer. eg move him to third base and the Jays might stupidly bite.

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    • DonOsbourne

      8 months ago

      I would trade Tucker. To me that is the best solution to all of their problems. I don’t think they can sign him long term. They could trade him for a combination of bullpen arms and young positional talent. It’s probably their best bet to keep their contention window open long enough to outlive some of these bad contracts.

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      • Ww0907

        8 months ago

        If they’re not signing him, they should trade him but that’s not what the Astros do. They didn’t do it with Springer, Keuchel, Correa, or Bregman. They won’t do it with Tucker even if they probably should. They’d get some decent prospects for him.

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  7. warnbeeb

    8 months ago

    The Tigers entire playoff roster payroll is under $20 million. The highest paid player is rookie, Colt Keith at around $2.8 million.

    Of course Javy Baez and Kenta Maeda are not on the post season roster and they make around $38 million between them.

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  8. thickiedon

    8 months ago

    I don’t see how resigning Bregman would have much to do in regards to resources to sign relievers. How much more are they going to spend on the pen? $19MM to Hader and $14MM to Pressley is disgusting. And if someone is willing to take on Pressley’s salary (because the author of article must believe him to be a bargain), take it.

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  9. thickiedon

    8 months ago

    Very curious to know how much Verlander believes his worth for 2025 and beyond is

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  10. Old York

    8 months ago

    Looks like the Astros couldn’t cheat their way against the Tigers.

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    • Drasco0366

      8 months ago

      Because the Tigers cheating manager knew all their dirty tricks.

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    • Ww0907

      8 months ago

      I mean, you do realize AJ-the manager during the scandal- is in Detroit, right? It seems like once you leave Houston, your cheating sins are forgiven. Nobody boos Springer, Correa, AJ, Alex Cora, etc.

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  11. bestone

    8 months ago

    C’mon back to Toronto….Kikuchi San…

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  12. Ronk325

    8 months ago

    They should go ahead and trade Tucker and Valdez now to go the retool route in order to avoid a full scale rebuild. The Astros are in the diminishing returns phase now and things will get ugly in a hurry if they don’t accept it

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  13. thomasg1951

    8 months ago

    They have $53/mil without Bregman and Verlander. Dump Pressly and add another $14/mil.

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    • Steve Adams

      8 months ago

      $33MM of that Bregman/Verlander money is already effectively spent on either salary increases in the long-term deals for Altuve/Alvarez/Javier or on forthcoming arbitration raises for Valdez, Tucker, Abreu, Dubon, Pena, etc.

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    • bestone

      8 months ago

      Not sure about you…but that seems like a lot of money to me. I’m sure I could do a lot of good things with that much money.

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  14. RobM

    8 months ago

    To retain your stars and win consistently requires increasing payroll. The Yankees, the Dodgers and a couple other teams can do that and opt to do that. Perhaps the best course is to do a reset. The last one worked out well for them.

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  15. bpskelly

    8 months ago

    Outside looking in… do the Astros have a viable 3rd baseman after Bregman would leave? Im asking Astros people.

    It seems like the money is either going to Bregman OR Tucker, and probably not both.

    It’s just a matter of who you choose.

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    • astrofan59

      8 months ago

      They have Shay Whitcomb and Zach Decenzo, both of which have legitimate concerns, so not anything sure. In my opinion, I do not think either one is resigned. They may get close on a contract offer to Bregman, but he would most likely have to leave a fairly significant amount on the table to resign with Houston. As far as Tucker goes, I just do not see anyway that the Astros will be offering 10+ years, 300+MM, like somebody will.

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      • thickiedon

        8 months ago

        Dezenzo was to be the heir to third but seems like club lost faith in him. Brice Matthews will be the replacement eventually. Plenty of placeholders to sign or use internally til Matthews ascends.

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      • thickiedon

        8 months ago

        No reason to believe the team can’t or won’t sign Tucker to a large deal. They’ve shown a willingness to spend when the time comes

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        • astrofan59

          8 months ago

          The longest contract they have signed any player to is 6 years. You are correct that they have shown a willingness to spend – but only on shorter contracts. They would not even offer Correa a contract past 6 years, so I just disagree that they will offer a 10 year contract to Tucker

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    • davengmusic

      8 months ago

      No legit 3B in the minors, but if you trade Tucker, then you’ve got no OF either, no notable prospects. Good 3B are a rare commodity, but Tucker is in his prime and can hit, run and field. What to do…

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      • Astros_fan_in_Aus

        8 months ago

        Except in the post season when he goes missing.

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    • Ww0907

      8 months ago

      Shay Whitcomb is an older prospect at 26, seems like a AAAA player. Zach Dezenzo didn’t show much that makes me he think he can replace a franchise icon and he’s also older at 24. Brice Matthews, our 1st rounder in 2023, got promoted too quickly and won’t be ready until probably 2026 at the earliest. So the short answer is no. It’s resign Bregman or accept that you’re simply about to become a worse team than you were the previous year.

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  16. Captainmike1

    8 months ago

    Time to tell greedy players to earn their big salary and to give back if they suck

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  17. Aiden Awe

    8 months ago

    Astros should be money on pitching(SP or RP) and a 1B at minimum.

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  18. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    8 months ago

    Trade Tucker, Meyers, McCormick & Pena. That should bring back some decent players. Let Verlander walk. Sign Kikuchi, Graveman, Heyward.
    Sign Bregman.

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    • Astros Hot Takes

      8 months ago

      @aussie, that’s an awful lot of “d” you just traded away.

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  19. Dumpster Divin Theo

    8 months ago

    Bang the can slowly. An Astro original

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  20. User 1939973770

    8 months ago

    They should trade Framber Valdez.

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  21. coldgoldenfalstaff

    8 months ago

    They’ll have $80m less salary allocated if the free agents are allowed to leave. This is no excuse.

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  22. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    8 months ago

    Never put a comma before too, ESPECIALLY when it ends the sentence. Also, why would anyone ever write crap like this? “It’s a group that, as of right now, doesn’t include Verlander.” Put “as of right now” at the end and stop interrupting flow.

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