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Clay Holmes Drawing Interest As Starting Pitcher

By Anthony Franco | December 2, 2024 at 5:37pm CDT

Clay Holmes is one of the top bullpen arms in free agency. While Holmes is surely drawing interest in his typical relief role, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that a few clubs are considering the right-hander as a candidate for a move to the rotation. According to Sherman, the Mets are among the teams looking into Holmes as a potential starter.

The bullpen-to-rotation move has become increasingly prevalent in recent years. The Rays have found success with rotation conversions for the likes of Drew Rasmussen, Jeffrey Springs and Zack Littell. The Yankees started to stretch Michael King out into rotation work at the end of the 2023 season. King dominated in that role, centered the Padres’ trade return for Juan Soto, and turned in an excellent first full season as a starter.

Teams have been especially willing to stretch free agent signees back into rotation work. San Diego hit on their decision to sign Seth Lugo as a starter going into 2023. One year later, Lugo finished second in Cy Young balloting for the Royals. The Braves and Giants took this path with Reynaldo López and Jordan Hicks, respectively, last winter. Hicks tailed off in the second half, but López turned in a 1.99 earned run average over 25 starts for Atlanta (albeit with a pair of late-season injured list stints). The White Sox developed Garrett Crochet from a talented reliever with workload concerns to a top-of-the-rotation arm who should net them a huge trade return this offseason. The Angels found some success with a rotation move for sinkerballer José Soriano.

Given the number of hits just within the past three to four years, it’s little surprise teams are interested in continuing the experiment. Jeff Hoffman, the top righty reliever of the free agent class, has already gotten attention as a starter. There’s risk in taking a successful pitcher out of the role in which he’s most comfortable, but the upside of a successful rotation move is tremendous. Even if the pitcher flames out as a starter, as A.J. Puk did with the Marlins this year, there’s a decent chance he could return to the ’pen without too much issue.

Holmes, who turns 32 on Opening Day, has essentially no major league experience as a starting pitcher. He has made four MLB starts, all of which came as a rookie with the Pirates in 2018. That’s a minuscule sample from six years ago, so there’s little to be gleaned from it, but Holmes struggled in that look (15 innings of 7.80 ERA ball with 13 walks and 12 strikeouts). Like many big league relievers, Holmes did work as a starting pitcher for the bulk of his minor league career.

Since moving to the bullpen, Holmes has essentially scrapped his changeup. His mid-upper 90s sinker is his primary pitch. He has a pair of distinct breaking balls (a slider around 87 MPH and a sweeper in the 83-84 MPH range) and uses each 20-25% of the time. That’s more promising for a potential rotation move than if he were strictly limited to two pitches. Still, he’d likely try out changeup or splitter grips if he’s working deeper into games. Finding a viable changeup, which is easier said than done, would give him a different look as he faces left-handed hitters multiple times in an outing.

Holmes has had some platoon issues throughout his career. He has stifled righty batters to a .209/.295/.293 slash across 843 plate appearances. Lefties have hit .250/.359/.346 over 618 trips to the plate. There’s a huge discrepancy in his strikeout and walk profile. Holmes has excellent strikeout and walk numbers (28.9% and 8.7%, respectively) when he holds the platoon advantage. His K/BB rates against left-handed hitters (18.9% and 12.9%, respectively) are very poor. He has been able to avoid the home run ball against hitters from either side of the plate, though. He gets a ton of grounders regardless of his opponent’s handedness, which served him well over three and a half seasons at Yankee Stadium.

Overall, Holmes had a strong run as New York’s closer. He turned in a 2.69 ERA across 217 2/3 innings as a Yankee. Holmes has topped 20 saves in each of the last three years and set a career mark with 30 saves this past season, but his production wobbled midway through the year. Holmes gave up the lead 13 times, five more than any other pitcher. The Yanks bumped him from the ninth inning for Luke Weaver down the stretch and into the playoffs. Holmes continued to struggle in September before finishing the year with 12 innings of 2.25 ERA ball in the postseason. He recorded five holds and didn’t blow a lead in October.

The Mets lost a trio of starters — Sean Manaea, Jose Quintana and Luis Severino — to free agency. They’ve begun to backfill the rotation by agreeing to a two-year deal with Frankie Montas. There’s a lot more work to be done as they build around Kodai Senga and David Peterson. The Mets are sensible fits for any of the top free agent starters, but president of baseball operations David Stearns has gone the reclamation route with the Manaea, Severino and Montas signings over the past two winters. New York has more than enough payroll space to sign a top-tier free agent (e.g. Corbin Burnes, Max Fried) and add another starter from the middle of the market. MLBTR predicts a three-year, $30MM contract for Holmes, who did not receive a qualifying offer and wouldn’t cost any draft compensation.

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  1. showmebb

    6 months ago

    Most starters are just like last generation’s long relievers so why not. 1 1/3 to 4 shouldn’t be too hard.

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    • User 1159363578

      6 months ago

      Agreed. Not sure why in the era of 5-inning starts that this is such a stretch or earth shattering idea

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    • letitbelowenstein

      6 months ago

      Joe Kelly, Daniel Bard and Alfredo Aceves (among others) may disagree with you.

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      • ClevelandSteelEngines

        6 months ago

        if they had the tools these guys have now, I think they’d have a better shot. I mean if Reynaldo Lopez can be successful, I think they could improve the odds they faced.

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        • Rsox

          6 months ago

          Lopez was primarily a starter before a two season stretch in the bullpen. And Kelly and Bard are still playing with the “tools” these guys hsve now yet no one is signing either to start

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      • StuckwithMetz22

        6 months ago

        An argument can be made that it was the Red Sox coaching staff that messed them up but your point still stands. Imagine signing Holmes for 30 mil and you turn him into Daniel Bard. Yikes

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        • Rsox

          6 months ago

          Kelly shot himself in the foot when he came to spring training in 2015 and proclaimed he would win the AL Cy Young award. That was a lot of pressure to put on himself, especially in an unforgiving market like Boston.

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    • rocky7

      6 months ago

      Yeh, the only problem with Holmes given your reasoning is that Holmes very rarely ever went 2 innings let alone 5+…….good luck with that.

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  2. Skyrider123

    6 months ago

    This would be an AA move

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    • RunDMC

      6 months ago

      Holmes has 4 GS to his career in his first season with PIT and never more than 70 IP. Lopez had 97 GS before signing with ATL to go back into the rotation.

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    • Never Remember

      6 months ago

      Please get over your obsession with AA. He is the idiot who got the Braves in financial trouble to pick up pathetic Kelenic. He has made many errors and sucked last year.

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      • dankyank

        6 months ago

        Thank your lucky stars you have a GM like Anthopolous. Sale, Lopez, Laureano and Urshela combined for 13.5 wins and they would have missed the playoffs without them.

        How many other teams could withstand the loss of six all-star caliber players and still gut out a wildcard appearance. Complaining about his lone misfire is just sounds delusional and entitled..

        If you can’t appreciate what AA has done for the Braves, you seriously need to work on your gratitude.

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        • carlos15

          6 months ago

          That Contreras for Murphy trade and the subsequent extension has been a blunder.

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        • Roughed Odor

          6 months ago

          AA should not trade catchers. WIth the jays he traded Yan Gomes for Esmil Rogers, Mike Napoli for Frank Francisco Napoli and Travis Darnaud and Noah Syndergard for RA Dickey. I am sure there were more.

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        • Braves_saints_celts

          6 months ago

          It is a blunder because Contreras has become one of the best Cathers in the league, but Murphy can also be that if he is healthy. He will definitely bounce back this year. I do believe that he will.

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  3. fred-3

    6 months ago

    I thought Farhan was fired?

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    • gravel

      6 months ago

      This kind of move wasn’t what got Farhan fired.

      Reply
  4. Salzilla

    6 months ago

    Plenty of starters, y’all, this guy’s a reliever.

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  5. CravenMoorehead

    6 months ago

    To be honest he’d be a solid 7th/8th inning option for a team. Best of luck to him on whatever he does just don’t want to see him close games for the NYY anymore.

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    • Acoss1331

      6 months ago

      Boone might want him back. He kept putting Holmes in save situations even though he kept blowing saves, 13 blown saves is just egregious…

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        6 months ago

        @Acoss

        He was their closer for the last 2 seasons. That’s why he was put into those situations.

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  6. ArianaGrandSlam

    6 months ago

    Stamina has been his problem and it will always be.

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    • El Kabong

      6 months ago

      Stamina was never a problem for ’80s actor John Holmes.

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      • CravenMoorehead

        6 months ago

        Either was length… 🙂

        He definitely wasn’t a 5 inning “starter”

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        • El Kabong

          6 months ago

          No, although there were times when a reliever had to come in and mop up what he started 🙂

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          6 months ago

          Definitely a shower not a grower. (So I’ve been told.)

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  7. Ranger Danger19

    6 months ago

    Starting pitching died years ago. It’s all max effort now from the first pitch until they’re out of gas or their elbow needs surgery.

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    • CravenMoorehead

      6 months ago

      The days of pitchers going 300 innings (plus playoffs) are long gone. Hell, 200 these days is rare

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      • El Kabong

        6 months ago

        I remember 1971 when Mickey Lolich tossed 376 regular-season innings. In 2024, just 10 MLB pitchers logged half that amount.

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        • CleaverGreene

          6 months ago

          I remember when hockey goalies didn’t wear masks. Things change. for the better sometimes or they change out of necessity., mate.

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  8. KnicksFanCavsFan

    6 months ago

    That’s interesting. Holmes came up thru the Pittsburgh organization as a starter. At one point he had 6 pitches (FB, Cutter, Slider, Sinker, Curve and Change). He was mostly a failed starter and they coveted him to a relief pitcher and scrapped most of his lesser pitched. The Yanks reduced his repertoire down to basically 2 pitches, his sinker and slider. But it seems risky and unlikely that a team will get that. He could get a very good contact as a closer. I would expect he would command that price even if it’s too convert to a starter. But he’s 31 and hasn’t come close to that high of a workload in years. He would have to expand his repertoire back to 3 or 4 pitches and need to be stretched out to go 6 or 7 innings. There’s a dearth of quality SP but this feels too risky to gamble on an injury from the role switch and who knows how well he can throw pitches he may not have thrown competitively in over 5 years?

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  9. gcg27

    6 months ago

    Sadly this is a move I can see the Orioles making…

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  10. Smacky

    6 months ago

    Gotta exploit all inefficiencies in the market.

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  11. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    6 months ago

    He has the body he’s a big man so I think he can last longer than Reynaldo Lopez and go 6 innings

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    • mlbnyyfan

      6 months ago

      Good luck, Holmes. Stay away from the Yankees. The same goes for you as well, Torres.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        6 months ago

        I don’t understand the hate on Torres. I think he went thru a lot presumably last year and was distracted. He and Boone don’t seem to get along well tho so my guess is Torres doesn’t want to return anyway. But right now he’s probably the best option in FA at that position. Our best bet is to bring in a 3b like Arenado, Bergman, etc and move Jazz to 2nd or maybe give Caleb Durbin a chance at the job in spring training. I trust Jazz more than the rookie.

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        • rocky7

          6 months ago

          The Yankees more than likely have no chance at Bergman and haven’t they had their fill of 3rd baseman in decline so Arenado is a big NO….a viable option might be too actually coach and teach Jazz 3rd base and give the 2nd base job to Durbin and see what he can do…..glove first 2nd basemen are a dime a dozen across the league so signing someone if Durbin fall on his face is easily solved…….

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        • slider32

          6 months ago

          Durbin,Peraza, and Vivas all are options, and DJ could have a bounce back year!

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          6 months ago

          Why would the Yanks not have have a shot at Bregman??

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      • Salzilla

        6 months ago

        I’d take back Gleyber.

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        • rocky7

          6 months ago

          You can have him…..$.10 cent baseball head with a penchant for screwing up at the worst times…..

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    • rocky7

      6 months ago

      You obviously have never seen him pitch…..stay focused on the Mariners….

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        6 months ago

        Stay focused on yoan moncada future opening day mariners 3rd baseman batting 3rd

        Enough with my conspiracy theories of anger anyways I expect no free agent deals bigger than Mitch garvers last year

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  12. ClevelandSteelEngines

    6 months ago

    Could get 125 IP of a hard throwing groundball pitcher isn’t a terrible idea. He needs a new role.

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  13. yeasties

    6 months ago

    At his age, moving Holmes reminds me of the Craig Lefferts experiment

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  14. dasit

    6 months ago

    worth a shot but those non-sinker/slider pitches were discarded for a reason

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  15. Jswag

    6 months ago

    Gotta be brewers rays or royals. It’s up their alley more than the big money teams.

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  16. whyhayzee

    6 months ago

    As long as he can strike out Moriarty.

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    • Rsox

      6 months ago

      Mike Moriarty hasn’t played since 2002…

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  17. DarkSide830

    6 months ago

    Put down the crack pipe

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  18. For Love of the Game

    6 months ago

    Two pitch pitcher = reliever
    Four pitch pitcher = starter

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  19. Rsox

    6 months ago

    These might be the most backwards negotiations ever; “Clay, we know you were mostly awful in one inning outings last year, but we’d love to see how bad you could be in 5 inning or more outings”…

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    • Orangejedi23

      6 months ago

      Think 4d chess. This keeps him from pitching in the ninth.

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  20. MontrealRays

    6 months ago

    Ew why

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  21. Mike the Fat Oriole Bird

    6 months ago

    Love to see him set up Bautista at Camden Yards, but I feel someone with pay him more for a more prestigious position.

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  22. texasbug

    6 months ago

    Love to see Clay Holmes go to the Houston Astros..

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  23. Orangejedi23

    6 months ago

    I can see it. He’s fine in every other inning but the ninth.

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  24. itsmeheyhii

    6 months ago

    For the team who wants to know theyre going to lose well before the final inning.

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  25. lowtalker1

    6 months ago

    Hoffman was pretty bad as a starter

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  26. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    6 months ago

    I thought dudes become relievers in the first place because they failed at some point as a starter. So now they want to reverse-engineer the whole process in hopes of finding fools gold.

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  27. bravesfan

    6 months ago

    Everyone seeing what the Braves did with Lopez and how successful it was and how you can get an affordable solid starter in this market, paying them a slightly high bullpen price tag. If it works, you look like a genius and saved the franchise a ton of money. If it doesn’t, you get a strong bullpen arm that you paid a premium for that no one will really pay attention too

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    • rocky7

      6 months ago

      Might a conversion to starter work with Holmes…maybe, but his penchant for throwing way too many pitches when he can’t control his drop dead sinker….will result in him probably not going 3 innings….get the bullpen ready man because you’re going to need it.

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  28. UGA_Steve

    6 months ago

    “MLBTR predicts a three-year, $30MM contract for Holmes, who did not receive a qualifying offer and wouldn’t cost any draft compensation.”

    If it’s 3/30 I hope the Braves try to sign Holmes. That could allow them a little more flexibility in moving a couple of young arms for a SS/LF upgrade.

    Worse case scenario is he is a solid RP at $10m per year. They were paying JoeJ 8, Johnson 7, and Minter over 6 last year, not to mention Raisel at $16. Holmes as a RP at 10 would be palatable, and if he ends up being a 3.50 ERA or less SP, it’s an outright steal.

    Quite frankly, I think 3/42m is more in the right ballpark [EDIT – as in what it will take to beat out others], as he is a super solid reliever and prospecting for that translating to an SP is likely going to be in that range since it is still so much cheaper than a known commodity 3.50 SP.

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    • cadagan

      6 months ago

      Worst case is arm fatigue from 2-3 times usage, and is shut down/injured.
      Worst case is he is very poor starter and loses many wins.

      Conversion to SP usually occurs if reliever has a good mix, 3-4 pitches, and good control.
      Historically, they often have significant prior professional experience starting.

      D. Lowe, D. Wells, C. Hough,
      J. Santana, A. Wainwright, CJ wilson, J. Samardzija.

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  29. UGA_Steve

    6 months ago

    “Historically, they often have significant prior professional experience starting.”

    Umm. No. Historically, they were ALL starters at some point in their professional career, then ramped down for various reasons and then brought back to SP. So really, the point is moot about significant prior professional experience. The article clearly pointed out multiple different players from just the last 2-3 seasons.

    But yes, you are correct on the worst case scenario. Arm fatigue or surgery would be the worst case. I missed on that one for certain.

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