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Orioles Reportedly “Reluctant” To Pursue QO Starters From Other Clubs

By Nick Deeds | December 7, 2024 at 8:33pm CDT

The Orioles made their first major splash on the free agent market this evening when they agreed with outfielder Tyler O’Neill on a three-year deal. That signing addressed their desire to add a right-handed bat to the lineup following the departure of switch-hitting free agent Anthony Santander, who was their best hitter in the outfield against left-handed pitching. The club’s biggest need of the winter remains unaddressed, however: a top-of-the-rotation arm to fill the void left by Corbin Burnes when he elected free agency last month.

While the club has previously been connected to top-of-the-market hurlers including former Braves southpaw Max Fried, a report this afternoon from Ken Rosenthal and Will Sammon of The Athletic shed some light on the club’s strategy for this winter’s pitching market by noting that the club is “reluctant” to pursue qualified free agent pitchers from other clubs. That stance would seemingly exclude them from not only the Fried sweepstakes but also the market for Sean Manaea and Nick Pivetta, the latter of whom they were previously connected to this winter.

There’s still a number of interesting free agent starters available this winter who don’t fit that description, led by a reunion with Burnes. Re-signing Burnes wouldn’t cause the Orioles to lose a draft pick beyond the opportunity cost of not receiving the pick after the first round they’d be in line to receive should he land elsewhere, but Rosenthal and Sammon suggested the chances of Burnes returning to Baltimore seem “remote” at this point given the possibility that the winter’s #2 free agent becomes the center of attention for Juan Soto bidders who fail to land the superstar slugger. For the Orioles’ part, GM Mike Elias made clear during an appearance on MLB Network Radio last month that the club would “love” to bring Burnes back into the fold for 2025 and beyond.

Should they find themselves outbid for Burnes, however, he’s far from the only viable option to improve the club’s rotation without forfeiting a draft pick. Rosenthal and Sammon describe both veteran right-hander Nathan Eovaldi and righty Jack Flaherty as more appealing to the Orioles than a pursuit of Fried, Manaea, or Pivetta. Of the two, they report that the Orioles appear to prefer Eovaldi after Flaherty’s disastrous run with Baltimore following the trade deadline back in 2023, where he surrendered a 6.75 ERA in 34 2/3 innings of work before turning things around with the Tigers and Dodgers this past year with a 3.17 ERA and 3.47 FIP in 28 starts.

Eovaldi also figures to be much cheaper than Flaherty this winter; on our annual Top 50 MLB Free Agents list, MLBTR predicted a two-year, $41MM contract for the veteran while predicting Flaherty would land $115MM over five years. Rosenthal and Sammon also suggest that Flaherty figures to land a contract in the four- to six-year range this winter, and while they don’t comment on Eovaldi’s expected contract it’s worth noting that deals of that length for a pitcher entering their age-35 season as Eovaldi is are all but unheard of in today’s game, with Jacob deGrom standing out as the notable exception to that rule. Eovaldi’s platform season saw him pitch to a 3.80 ERA and 3.83 FIP in 29 starts that don’t quite match up to Flaherty’s performance, though the veteran does offer a lengthy track record of mid-rotation success that compares favorably to Flaherty’s up-and-down career in terms of on-field results over the past half decade.

It also seems at least plausible that the Orioles could look to get creative as they search for rotation upgrades. Rosenthal and Sammon report that Baltimore was among the clubs that had interest in right-hander Clay Holmes before he signed with the Mets yesterday. While Holmes has been a reliever for the majority of his MLB career, the Mets signed him to pitch in their rotation and Rosenthal and Sammon indicated that Baltimore would’ve done the same had they landed him, though some of his other suitors planned to keep him in the relief role in which he turned in a dominant three-and-a-half year stretch with the Yankees. While it’s currently unclear if the club would consider any other free agent relief arms for a move to the rotation, both Michael Soroka and Jeff Hoffman have received buzz as potential starting pitching options this winter after successful runs in relief in 2024.

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53 Comments

  1. Yankee Clipper

    1 year ago

    I mean, I get it, but your window is now. If you’re going to do it ever, I’d think now is the time, especially with the farm they already have.

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    • cooperhill

      1 year ago

      Orioles still owe that punk Holmes for the beaning

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    • tuck 2

      1 year ago

      They lose nothing by taking this position. Plenty of good options without QO. Makes total sense

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      • raregokus

        1 year ago

        They lose the option to sign some of the best talent on the market. Someone needs to google “opportunity cost”

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    • stuart schlotterbeck

      1 year ago

      O’Neill isn’t as good as Santander, and he’s a constant injury risk.

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    • roob

      1 year ago

      Apparently, new Orioles ownership will be content just to make the playoffs. I feel bad for O’s fans.

      They don’t have a rotation nearly good enough for the WS even if they add Eovaldi.

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        1 year ago

        Yeah, Os management run the danger of being too smart by a half. Understandable in their thrifty management of the budget and the careful handling of prospects, but pretty soon their window will close.

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  2. YankeesEmpire29

    1 year ago

    Seems like Burnes or Eovaldi will be an Oriole, Burnes is their only shot now, and some bullpen arms.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 year ago

      The article just said burnes is a remote chance

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      • YankeesEmpire29

        1 year ago

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      • tuck 2

        1 year ago

        Well if the article said it, then it must be true.

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        • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

          1 year ago

          Well if Jonathan (NYSportsFan4Life) said burnes or eovaldi will be an oriole, it must be true

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  3. amk1920

    1 year ago

    Orioles window will be short with this poverty mindset and wouldn’t be surprised if 2023 was their best shot. They forfeit like a 4th round pick to sign a QO free agent. Most teams would lose a 2nd. Just comical to let that get in the way of upgrading the team

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    • Aiden Awe

      1 year ago

      Depends on what new ownership wants.

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        1 year ago

        What a girl wants, what a girl needs

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    • holecamels35

      1 year ago

      Agreed. Can only trust the process for so long. Prett soon they will have multiple players making ten figure salaries. No one is locked up long term. And they can’t seem to win a playoff series yet. Red Sox and Blue Jays aren’t always going to suck either.

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    • danumd87 2

      1 year ago

      They’d be forfeiting the 36th overall pick. You clown

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      • amk1920

        1 year ago

        That is a complete lie. Comp picks don’t count towards forfeiting. And O’s are a revenue sharing team. Do some research

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      • rct

        1 year ago

        @danumd87 2: As a revenue-sharing recipient, they would be forfeiting their third-best non-comp pick per MLB rules. You clown.

        mlb.com/glossary/transactions/qualifying-offer

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        1 year ago

        Why is he a clown, does he make you laugh, does he amuse you

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    • metfan4ever

      1 year ago

      It’s international spending money too. A lot of very good player bought via international spending money. And each team has a certain amount only. But I see your point for the Os

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  4. Jim Carter

    1 year ago

    Orioles reluctant to spend, regardless of who owns the team.

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  5. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 year ago

    Well….they could trade for Crochet and Luis Robert Jr
    And also crank call Scotty Boras and ask him if he has Prince Albert in the can

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    • bwmiller79

      1 year ago

      The Soroka idea has legs, Buehler is a great fit with the Orioles, a trade with Seattle makes sense, They could use a player like Jordan Westburg. Sweeten the pot a little and it’s possible they could pry away Bryce Miller or Bryan Woo. Westburg for Luis Castillo might be good too.

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      • bwmiller79

        1 year ago

        I’d be all in on Soroka, Urquidy, Buehler. Urquidy has some potential, doesn’t walk a lot of hitters, doesn’t give up too many long balls, can eat up some innings for the O’s and likely can be signed relatively inexpensively.

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      • sillywabbit

        1 year ago

        Miller, Woo, Gilbert, or Kirby appear to be off the table with Seattle, Castillo and a prospect for Westberg seems plausible.

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 year ago

        Westy is infinitely more valuable than Castillo on that contract.

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    • paddyo furnichuh

      1 year ago

      @Lefty…You’ll keeping that horse’s head in your freezer a bit longer now.

      Amusing you making facetious comment of Orioles owners trying to intimidate Guggenheim when the QO penalties have the Oriole owner making half steps.

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        1 year ago

        Amusing, are you saying he’s a clown

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      1 year ago

      Pujols?

      Reply
  6. cooperhill

    1 year ago

    Aim high, just resign Burnes, forget the journeyman, your time is now.

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    • El Kabong

      1 year ago

      If a team is confident in its scouting, drafting, and player development, then losing a draft pick is a small price to pay for signing an ace.

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  7. Steepler

    1 year ago

    Does a Ranger Suarez for Cedric Mullins trade work for both teams?

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      1 year ago

      Ranger danger

      Reply
  8. interloper

    1 year ago

    Nick Deeds –

    Explain how “reluctant” means they “are excluded from”.

    Thanks

    Reply
  9. Baltimore_44

    1 year ago

    Eovaldi turns into a TOR guy in October!

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  10. RATManfred

    1 year ago

    What are they willing to give up for a top tier pitcher? The Mariners have a stable of them and have three holes to fill in the IF.

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    • jdgoat

      1 year ago

      Well they gave up Norby for Trevor freaking Rogers so I’m guessing any of Seattles young studs would bring back Camden Yards and half of Marylands treasury.

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    • sillywabbit

      1 year ago

      Only one of the Mariners 4 are available, reports say it’s Castillo.

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      • sillywabbit

        1 year ago

        *5

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  11. User 1855579867

    1 year ago

    What about GQ starters?

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      1 year ago

      Greta Garbo and Monroe. Dietrich and Dimaggio.

      Reply
  12. sillywabbit

    1 year ago

    Perhaps trade an infielder for the Mariners Luis Castillo. Two years on his deal & making roughly 21 million per.

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    • O'sSayCanYouSee

      1 year ago

      Yes, seems like a good win/win move for both teams.

      …and that’s why it won’t happen, sigh…

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    • RATManfred

      1 year ago

      Westburg? I don’t think either Mountcastle or O’Hearn gets it done. I can’t imagine Gunner or Holiday are moving.

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 year ago

        Castillo is paid right around his market value. The Mariners are going to be offloading his salary to reallocate more so than the return they’d receive.

        It wouldn’t be Jordan Westburg. Be more like Luis Urias.

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  13. Scott Kliesen

    1 year ago

    It makes too much sense for Orioles and Pirates to make a deal. Pirates have what Orioles need, and vicey versey.

    C’mon GM’s make a splashy trade and come October let’s party like it’s 1979!

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  14. gr81t2

    1 year ago

    They better sign fried and a strong bullpen arm. The window is right now.

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  15. spirit of truth

    1 year ago

    If they sign Burnes or anyone else they’re right back where they were last year. How much better are O’Neill and Sanchez than Santander and McCann? Granted it’s still early but they haven’t upgraded anything going back to that disasterous trade deadline (yeah they got Eflin). They’re just backfilling but from the early signs I have no reason to believe that Coulombe (however you spell it) and Webb’s replacements will be better than they were…or already on the team in their eyes. I.E. Soto and Dominguez.

    I have more concerns over the lineup than the pitching because it was absolutely dreadful down the stretch and in the playoffs. Bring in the walls all you want. The dimensions won’t matter if you strike out on three pitches out of the zone. Personally I feel that this whole thing is about to get fumbled.

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  16. BillBacon

    1 year ago

    As an Orioles fan I’d like to see Roki Sasaki from NPB pitch for the Orioles he can be had for cheaper than signing a QO pitcher.

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    • gbs42

      1 year ago

      Every fan is hoping their team signs Sasaki.

      Reply
  17. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    1 year ago

    Baseball is driving inflation.
    It’s a shame and COMPLETELY UN-AMERICAN.

    Reply
  18. Baseball_dude

    1 year ago

    These comments are funny. The orioles don’t know what pitching is. They don’t know how to sign good pitchers, develop, or trade for good pitching. PS.. nobody should care about the O’Neil signing, he’ll help them a little, he’ll be injured a little, and he’ll struggle a little. What’s does that translate to?.. nothing special

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