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Cardinals Believed To Be “Open” To Moving Erick Fedde

By Nick Deeds | February 23, 2025 at 11:32pm CDT

Rival clubs believe that the Cardinals could entertain trade conversations surrounding right-hander Erick Fedde, according to a report from Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, though it’s not clear whether those discussions would happen later this Spring or at some point during the season. Goold notes that the club has made clear their desire to maintain their pitching depth this spring, but adds that the club is “open” to a move that would lower payroll and make room in the rotation for young right-hander Michael McGreevy.

That Fedde could find himself on the trading block this spring, on its face, isn’t a huge surprise. After all, the Cardinals seemingly made every effort to trade veteran third baseman Nolan Arenado this winter, and while those efforts appear to remain a longshot to come to fruition they still combine with the club’s decision to let players like Paul Goldschmidt and Andrew Kittredge depart in free agency to paint a picture of a club looking to focus on the future rather than the present. That would normally make a rental pitcher like Fedde something of a no-brainer to deal away, but St. Louis has resisted the prospect of fully committing to 2025 as a rebuilding year.

The Cards expressed a reluctance to make long-term commitments this winter, and that appears to have included even extension conversations with pending free agents like Ryan Helsley. Even as they’ve done that, however, St. Louis has held onto their closer despite receiving interest from multiple clubs in his services. The same is true of Fedde and even back-of-the-rotation southpaw Steven Matz, both of whom were reportedly drawing interest on the trade market as far back as December but the Cardinals never outwardly expressed much interest in moving.

Against the backdrop of the Cardinals’ overall approach to the winter, the idea that Fedde could be moved before Opening Day registers as something of a surprise. It’s easy to see why the club may want to make such a move, however. As Goold notes, part of the impetus behind looking to deal Arenado was about scaling back the club’s payroll in order to reinvest in their development apparatus. While Fedde’s $7.5MM salary is fairly inexpensive and he’s on the books for just one year, it’s possible that those funds would be reallocated to the budget when the club plans to be more competitive in 2026.

More than the financial aspect, however, what could be appealing to the Cardinals is the opportunity to give another young player consistent playing time this year. McGreevey impressed in a brief cup of coffee last year, posting a 1.96 ERA in 23 innings of work, and with an aging starting rotation it’s easy to imagine the Cardinals wanting to add another young, controllable arm to the mix alongside Andre Pallante. Given that reality, it’s easy to understand why 60% of MLBTR readers suggested that the Cardinals should pivot towards dealing a starter amid the likely return for Arenado to St. Louis for at least the start of the 2025 season.

Of course, those financial and playing time considerations are likely to be secondary to the return they could garner for Fedde’s services. The club surrendered utility man Tommy Edman to the Dodgers as part of a three-team deal in order to acquire Fedde from the White Sox, and after a season where he pitched to an excellent 3.30 ERA in 177 1/3 innings with a 3.86 FIP the Cardinals are surely hoping to get legitimate, long-term value for the righty in any deal. With other win-now pieces like Arenado, Helsley, and Sonny Gray all still on the roster, it makes little sense for St. Louis to trade a solid mid-rotation arm like Fedde just for the sake of making a move. Perhaps a desire to extract the best package possible in exchange for Fedde was the cause for St. Louis’s apparent hesitance about dealing Fedde throughout the winter, giving the premium placed on quality starting pitching at the trade deadline every summer.

If getting the best return possible for Fedde’s services is the club’s priority, at least listening to offers this spring certainly makes sense. After all, Goold points out that the inevitable pitching injuries that will crop up throughout the spring are bound to create a market for starting pitching help. The first significant pitching injury of the spring already occurred when the Mets revealed that Frankie Montas will be shut down for six to eight weeks due to a lat issue, and while they don’t currently plan to add a starter it’s not hard to imagine a similar injury elsewhere around the league causing another contender to get antsy about their rotation depth. If no significant offer comes through for Fedde this spring, the Cardinals can of course simply reassess at the deadline based on the team’s competitive outlook for the stretch run and either field offers again over the summer or simply hold onto Fedde and potentially extend him a Qualifying Offer in the fall.

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  1. baseballpun

    4 months ago

    This is SO STUPID. Trade or put Matz in the pen and start the season with a rotation of Gray, Fedde, Pallante (I guess), McGreevy and Mikolas (if you can’t move Mikolas). See how things look at the deadline.

    Matz and Mikolas are the guys blocking rotation spots, not Fedde and Gray.

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    • gbs42

      4 months ago

      Matz and Mikolas have very little, if any, trade value.

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      • btharveyku08

        4 months ago

        Or negative

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      • baseballpun

        4 months ago

        So cut them then. Or eat salary. Fedde isn’t costing much and isn’t blocking anyone.

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        • eatonculo

          4 months ago

          Gotta make sure those other younger dudes are ready. By trade deadline, Matz and Mikolas will either be traded (good luck), better (good luck), or cut. No sense doing it yet.

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      • Degaz

        4 months ago

        Unless you are team trying to drive down your team SO/9 stat. Both guys were well under 7 last year…lol

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      • 17dizzy

        4 months ago

        Matz would have more trade value because he is useful out of the bullpen.

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        • rondon

          3 months ago

          Matz has always been an injury waiting to happen. They’re not getting anything substantial for him.

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        • kremer

          3 months ago

          I don’t think anyone expects value for Matz – just his roster spot open and maybe a few million paid. Terrible signing at the time that has somehow been even worse than expected. That being said moving Matz to the pen makes all the sense in the world. Hold onto Fedee and either trade him at the deadline or hope he is QO good and hold onto him. Maybe they can make QO’s to Fedde & Helsley. Good way to help their goal of restocking the farm under Bloom

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        • SimbaHOF2019

          3 months ago

          I think Mo is waiting to see improvement in spring training for Mikolas so he can be traded for anything. Matz has value but they wont trade him until the other team is willing to eat half his money.
          They want Matz gone because he blocks a couple really good Starters in the minors that are ready for the leap.
          Matz in the bullpen clogs up a Memphis shuttle spot that will be valuable this year as we have twice as many possible relievers as bullpen spots and they want them all to fight it out .

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      4 months ago

      Let’s be honest it’s probably impossible to trade matz and mikolas and maybe even gray too

      Fedde wasn’t that bad in St. Louis so they could get something in return for him

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      • BuxBombers

        4 months ago

        Did you just say trading Gray would be problematic, bordering on the impossible? Really??

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        • Outfieldflyrule??

          4 months ago

          No team is going to be remotely interested in Sonny Gray at $60m over the next two years.

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        • CardsFan57

          4 months ago

          Gray’s contract was very back loaded. The Cardinals would have to eat salary even if Gray approves a trade.

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        • Degaz

          4 months ago

          Just looked at Gray’s contract. He a good pitcher but is owed $65M over the next 2 years. Yikes!!

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        • jeremyr

          3 months ago

          He has a no trade close and said he doesn’t want to be traded, so it would be impossible.

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        • gcg27

          3 months ago

          Doesn’t matter since he’s not willing to wave his no trade clause

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        • kremer

          3 months ago

          I guess I would disagree. I think teams would love to have a pitcher on a short contract, And $30M per year for even a number 2, knowing the shortness of the deal, is still appealing. Yusei Kikuchi got 3/64. Gray had more WAR in 2023 than Kikuchi has had in his MLB career.

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      • spudchukar

        4 months ago

        He wasn’t that good last year either. 5 innings and he was cooked.

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        • kremer

          3 months ago

          Look at our Cy Young winner in the NL last year. That’s all it takes now!!!

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      • Rantucky

        4 months ago

        Gray has a no trade clause and has already said he wants to stay with the Cards

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        • Bobcastelliniscat

          4 months ago

          Yes and I’m surprised it took 12 posts for this to be mentioned.

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      • Lanidrac

        3 months ago

        Probably, so just put one of them in the bullpen or DFA Mikolas if he doesn’t get better this spring.

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        • Daryl Pauley

          3 months ago

          Mikolaus had a good 1st inning today. I just know this is a rebound year. He is playing for his next contract, 3 years @$60M.

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      • 17dizzy

        3 months ago

        Over the past 5-8 years, John Mozeliak’s philosophy was only to sign,as he called it; “Low Hanging Fruit.” (Players who aren’t supposed to be very good or lost it somewhere down the road. His hopes were that they’d find their way in St.Louis).

        90% didn’t find their way and Mozeliak had signed them to long term contracts.
        By wasting the Cardinals money by looking for lightning in a bottle with a signee, John Mozeliak has driven the Cardinals from Riches to Rags!!!

        Let’s face it!!!
        Mikolas, Fedde, Matz, Contreras and with the exception of Gray & Arenado, would all be classified as players John Mozeliak signed as “Lightning in a bottle” players!!
        Washed Up!!! He was just hoping one would have an all-star season to make him look good.

        No other team wants these players!!!
        The Cardinals can get nothing worth while back for them!! To get rid of them —- the Cardinals are going to have to eat their salary.

        Horrible investments in low quality players by John Mozeliak has ruined the Cardinals Organization.

        It will take 10 years to rebuild the Cardinals from the damage John Mozeliak has orchestrated!!!
        Even then —- the Fans will “Never” see the types of World Championship style play the Cardinal Teams displayed….. in the 30’s, 40’s, 60’s, 80’s!
        The Walt Jockerty/Tony LaRussa era of having a multi players in an everyday line-up of Quality Players of which the Organization had invested in ——- is a Philosophy of the past. ——- Especially through the eyes of Bill DeWitt III.

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        • stan lee the manly

          3 months ago

          Fedde was sixth in the MLB for bWAR for pitchers in 2024 and was traded for, not signed.

          Contreras has been a well-above average hitter, especially when the catcher position is taken into account, throughout his entire career and had quite a few teams after him in his free agency. He’s been at least 23% better than league avg offensively in each of his last three seasons. He’s would have a legitimate market for his services.

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    • Ralphus_JPS

      4 months ago

      So you’re saying you’re Fedde up with the rumors?

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      • WadeBoggsWildRide

        4 months ago

        I Fedde that joke to my dog and he turned Gray.

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        • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

          4 months ago

          I fed that joke to my cat and he threw up all over the bath Matz.

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  2. gbs42

    4 months ago

    Given how cheap they’ve been this offseason, I can’t imagine the Cardinals giving Fedde the QO next fall.

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    • jeremyr

      3 months ago

      Besides, Fedde is no where near good enough to get a QO.

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      • Blah blah blah

        3 months ago

        a season even half as good as his 2024 nets him a QO. 5.6 WAR is ace level production.

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      • kremer

        3 months ago

        have you paid attention to MLB recently? Nick Pivetta turned down a QO. dude has never had an ERA below 4.04.

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  3. ohyeadam

    4 months ago

    Maybe attach him to Arenado so they don’t need to eat any/less of his money?

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  4. Bill Rogers

    4 months ago

    I hope the Cards at least let things sort out theis spring. Both Miles Mikolas and Matz are dicey performers—not at all unlikely to be worse than Fedde. It makes no sense to me to trade away Fedde will be 32 this season, younger than both Mikolas and Matz. The Redbirds should at least keep him until the trade deadline to see if the team is somehow competitive.

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    • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

      4 months ago

      Fedde is a free agent next winter, and is a better value in a trade than Mikolas/Matz. If they start dealing, they should start with the guys they know would fetch a decent return. I agree the Cardinals should play out the first few months and see if they’re competitive before making trades in any direction. They didn’t make the playoffs but they did finish 83-79 last year and have some young talent on the rise, so I have no idea why they’re even thinking about selling off productive veteran players. A couple lucky breaks to their benefit would definitely get them into a wild card spot, and the division isn’t super out of reach either.

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      • SimbaHOF2019

        3 months ago

        Wild card could be harder than the division this year. Mets, phillies Braves,dodgers, Dbacks, Padres?

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  5. fred-3

    4 months ago

    Freidman absolutely fleeced the Cards and White Sox

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    • Kyle Pepperpants

      4 months ago

      How so? The cards gave up a clone of Donovan who was on the DL to get a solid rotation arm and a bat. I loved Tommy but we already had other versions of him.

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      • n2thecards

        3 months ago

        Not to split hairs but Donnie is a clone of Tommy since Tommy was our Swiss Army knife first. Having 2 players who are so versatile made trading him away palatable. I agree with you that this wasn’t a fleece of STL. Maybe Chicago got fleeced, if anyone.

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  6. Daryl Pauley

    4 months ago

    At the first of the off-season I wanted a bunch of Cardinals articles. There weren’t many coming since the Cards weren’t doing anything. Now that we have some Red Bird’s articles, I just it to stop because it all sounds stupid. There does not seem to be a cohesive plan or theme to the madness. Does anybody know what they are doing in that Front Office?
    On the other hand , Weatherholdt looked good today, 3 run HR. I guess I better learn to spell his name if he is gonna be a superstar(at least above average).

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  7. DMiles5149

    4 months ago

    You’re a frickin’ primadonna, McGreavy. You don’t deserve to wear that uniform.

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    • gbs42

      4 months ago

      What???

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    • Kelly Wunsch N' Munch

      3 months ago

      You know, you’re right, Mac. I’m a disgrace to the Twins. I think you should trade me.

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  8. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    4 months ago

    Wtf is St. Louis thinking? It’s not like they were bad last year, they were tied with the Cubs at 2nd place (83-79), and have some young talent rising already. I’m not too knowledgeable about their roster, but when glancing at their Fangraphs and BB-Ref pages I do see the makings of a solid team again.

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    • eatonculo

      4 months ago

      They have a lot of “good not great” players. They would rather fix the minor system and retool the Major League roster this season instead of spinning in mediocrity.

      The no-trade contracts have made it more difficult than they expected. Once they trade one of those players, it makes it much easier to get the ball rolling.

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    • stan lee the manly

      3 months ago

      It’s not about the major league team unfortunately, it’s about their minor league systems. They basically let them become completely outdated and broken down in order to redirect money to the major league roster, but now they are seeing that they are really struggling to develop their own minor league players, particularly pitchers. With their market size and budget, they can’t compete without the farm churning out legitimate major league pieces.

      They are trying to save money to reinvest in the minors to fix the broken parts of it before it gets even worse. It’s a long-term investment that should lead to more winning, but unfortunately at some point they need to pay the bill in the present to do it. Just so happens that they decided to this year.

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  9. User 3544663696

    4 months ago

    Lame hit piece as usual

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    • Kyle Pepperpants

      4 months ago

      It is an incredibly pointless post. Other teams think the cards could be open to trading Fedde???Jesus…that’s your big insight? You could probably write the same article about almost everyone else on the team. This site has at least 6 more posts about Arenado in them.

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    • gbs42

      4 months ago

      How is it a “hit piece” when they’re basing it on Gold’s article?

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      • Kyle Pepperpants

        3 months ago

        It’s more about how obsessed this site seems to be that the cards should just rebuild and sell everyone off. Not arguing it will be successful (though it could be in this division), but the cards’ offseason strategy has a level of nuance that none of the writers on this site seem to understand. So instead, we just get shock about how they haven’t traded off x, y, and z…and a ton of pointless posts like this one. Just go back and read the headline a few times and ask yourself whether it’s really post-worthy.

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    • gravel

      4 months ago

      Youjustmadethatup
      February 21, 2025
      This hit piece was the final straw. I’m done with this garbage and you losers
      —————
      I see you’re looking for more straw.

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  10. Hammerin' Hank

    4 months ago

    You gotta reinvest in your development apparatus every now and then.

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  11. RunDMC

    4 months ago

    Can DOGE tackle the Cardinals inept FO? I’d love to see their email on what they did last week.

    – Re-engaged HOU on Arenado trade (left a vm with Brown’s secretary to call me back)

    – Cleaned office (clear internet search history)

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    • Garywally57

      4 months ago

      I’m sure that Billionaire Bill DeWallet has his own DOGE. Remember, he puts profits before the loyal Cardinal fans. He’s not spending anymore than necessary.

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    • n2thecards

      3 months ago

      I love it!

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  12. Poolhalljunkies

    4 months ago

    Interesting the the Cards seem disorganized and indecisive as soon as bloom gets close to the wheel..hmm..where have we seen this before….

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  13. JimC

    4 months ago

    MLB Trade Rumor click bait. Of course the Cardinals will be open to trading Fedde. But later in the season iff they fall out of contention.

    Nothing has changed from when they refused to trade Fedde or Helsley during off season.

    Here’s for reading way too much in to a spring training fluff piece by Derrick Goold.

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    • gravel

      4 months ago

      Get this Jim, it’s a mlb trade rumor. The site is delivering on its premise.

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    • jmaa

      4 months ago

      Mo has to reply what he has done in the last week to keep his job.
      On second thought
      You’re fired.

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    • DonOsbourne

      3 months ago

      Absolutely everything Derrick Goold writes is fluff. The sign on his office door says “John Mozeliak Propaganda Department”. I fully expect Goold to retire after the season so that he and Mo can spent their retirements together.

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      • SimbaHOF2019

        3 months ago

        Hes one of the few writers that actually writes substance and has interesting reporting that know one else in st Louis does.
        He won the Ford Frick award if you know what that is and was president of the bbwa, if you know what that is.

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        • DonOsbourne

          3 months ago

          I know about the Ford Frick and being the President of BBWA. Those facts only serve to re-enforce my beliefs. In my opinion, those awards and titles are awarded to the writer most committed to protecting the brand. MLB has many ways of influencing how they are covered by the media. Goold is bought and paid for.

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        • SimbaHOF2019

          3 months ago

          Seems to me hes one of the few that actually break news stories and find out unreported details. And he actually has integrity and doesnt report stuff that later turns out to be false or bad intel like most of the national writers.. when the other writers ask Mo stupid questions leading nowhere, Goold asks the question that cant be wiggled out of. I dont know what you are seeing But your bar must be incredibly high or your just have a worldview that needs to be reinforced. Although I agree there are many that are cowed by MLB. Goold isnt one of them.

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  14. Flags in the wind

    4 months ago

    Is this the penalty for a club doing nothing during an offseason?

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  15. MasterCal

    4 months ago

    Quinn Matthews should be in the opening day rotation

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  16. Jump 84

    4 months ago

    Fun times for Cardinal nation.

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  17. westcasey

    4 months ago

    Cardinals tied with Cubs last season. Cubs have improved. Seems like Cards need to improve. Analysis in simplest terms

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    • Flags in the wind

      4 months ago

      CHC are the outlier of the 10 mlb Central teams player budgets.

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  18. Buck526

    4 months ago

    Pallante is not a starter! He walks too many and always is one pitch away from giving a big inning. Very lucky last season on balls put in play. Much rather see one of the young starters.

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  19. SimbaHOF2019

    3 months ago

    Just Wow. really? OK. then.

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  20. Old York

    3 months ago

    If the Cardinals move Fedde now, it suggests a deeper structural issue—are they trying to extract value from mid-tier assets because they don’t trust their player development to produce reliable pitching depth? The entire Arenado saga already hints at a club caught between competing and retooling, but this Fedde situation might be the clearest sign yet that St. Louis lacks a coherent plan. If they’re prioritizing payroll flexibility over rotational stability, are they truly setting up for contention in 2026, or just kicking the can down the road without solving their core development issues?

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    • Rantucky

      3 months ago

      Cards are copying the Guardians method. They are just going to let some youngsters play and see what they have before Bloom takes over. Why run a large payroll when they have no chance against the Dodgers anyway.

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    • ChuckyNJ

      3 months ago

      Redbirds have to reduce player payroll cos they’ve taken a haircut on their local TV contract. Plus they’re looking at plenty of unsold tickets for Opening Day.

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      • Rantucky

        3 months ago

        That’s true, but they have been outspending their division rivals with little to show for it. They have hired former Guardians Director of Player Development Robert Cerfolio to be their new Assistant General Manager over player development and performance. The Cards have also outspent Cleveland too while having little to show for it. If I had spent as much as the Cards owner has while being inferior to so many lower paying teams I would be looking at changing things up as well.

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  21. SupremeZeus

    3 months ago

    Donations! Donations!
    I thought it was the trash!

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  22. Lanidrac

    3 months ago

    Why would they need to make room for McGreevy? Just put Mikolas or Matz in the bullpen, preferably Mikolas.

    Besides, how long will it be until Matz (or someone else in the rotation) gets hurt or Mikolas gets DFAed?

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  23. greg1

    3 months ago

    Makes sense. Like Miles, Fredde had by far his best season of his career after returning from Korea. Why not sell while the market’s high on him instead of the potential that his next few years also follows Mikolas’

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  24. Flags in the wind

    3 months ago

    StL signed 100mil of pitching last winter.
    This winter they are in full dump mode. Just waiting for the next sunrise, to hear of the next knee jerk ownership decision.

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  25. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 months ago

    One of the worst offseasons of any team in recent memory. I mean, even the White Sox accomplished their biggest task of the winter well enough.

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  26. tominco

    3 months ago

    How about being open to moving Mozeliak?

    Reply
  27. tbone0816

    3 months ago

    So they realize how much he sucked!! We should’ve went after someone else last offseason.

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