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Cardinals Mulling Six-Man Rotation

By Steve Adams | March 17, 2025 at 11:25am CDT

The Cardinals are considering opening the season with a six-man rotation, manager Oliver Marmol revealed this morning (link via John Denton of MLB.com). Doing so would allow the club to get righty Michael McGreevy some starts alongside Sonny Gray, Erick Fedde, Miles Mikolas, Andre Pallante and Steven Matz.

St. Louis has a veteran-laden rotation that includes two pitchers (Gray, Mikolas) who might’ve been trade candidates this winter were it not for full no-trade protection in both of their deals. Matz’s $12MM salary made him difficult for the Cards to move as well, and the team chose not to deal Fedde despite the right-hander having just one season left on his contract as the organization enters something of a transition year that was intended to focus on developing younger players.

McGreevy, 24, was the Cardinals’ first-round pick back in 2021 and made a brief MLB debut in 2024, tossing 23 innings with a 1.96 ERA and an 18-to-2 K/BB ratio. He also pitched to a 4.02 earned run average with a 21.6% strikeout rate, 6.9% walk rate and 49% ground-ball rate in 150 Triple-A frames. He currently ranks 10th among Cardinals prospects at Baseball America and 11th at MLB.com. He’s also already made 51 starts at the Triple-A level over the past two seasons and thus has little left to prove at the top minor league level.

So far in camp, McGreevy has pitched 11 2/3 innings and held opponents to a pair of runs on nine hits. He hasn’t walked any of the 43 batters he’s faced and has kept the ball on the ground at a nice 47.1% clip, though his 18.6% strikeout rate is a ways below average. Be that as it may, it’s been an undeniably strong camp for a former first-rounder who looks largely ready for an earnest big league audition.

There are obviously factors that could yet change the composition of a potential six-man group. Injuries are abundant this time of year and could impact any rotation at any point. The Cards were at least reported to be “open” to offers on Fedde earlier this month, though there’s no real indication they’re seriously pursuing a trade of the affordable right-hander, who’s earning $7.5MM this year. They’ve also been considering left-hander and former top prospect Matthew Liberatore for rotation work, although president of baseball operations John Mozeliak said late last week that at least initially, the expectation was that Liberatore would break camp as a reliever (link via Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch).

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  1. BaseballBrian

    4 months ago

    Gray and Fedde, and pray for the weather to be wetty.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      4 months ago

      MLB Batters Mauling Cardinals Six-Man Rotation?

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      • BaseballBrian

        4 months ago

        I just had to find 2 of them that sort of rhymed with a weather condition.

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        • Buckner

          4 months ago

          I guess they couldn’t start Sonny Gray every day.
          Because that would be a one-man rotation.

          The rest of these names are streamers.
          Actually, the rest of these names are terrible.

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        • stan lee the manly

          4 months ago

          It will never cease to amaze me that Fedde was a top ten bWAR pitcher last year and yet somehow he’s widely known as “terrible”.

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        • gbs42

          4 months ago

          stan,

          Who is calling Fedde “terrible?”

          Reply
    • Scott Kliesen

      4 months ago

      Gray and Fedde, and get the bourbon ready.

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      Reply
      • n2thecards

        4 months ago

        That’s catchy, Scott!

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        Reply
    • Pete'sView

      4 months ago

      I feel bad for Cardinals fans.

      1
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      • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

        4 months ago

        We’ll be just fine. We’ve had it really good for a long time, though it’s been rough for a few years.

        We’ve got some good pieces coming up and Mo is on his way out. Let the Bloom era begin!

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        • 17dizzy

          4 months ago

          Mozeliak is the current problem of the
          St. Louis Cardinals!! (And has been!)

          He’s dictating to Marmol who he wants to make the team out of Spring Training.
          Not who’s the best!!

          Mozeliak is also dictating who will be in
          the starting line up. Not who’s the best!!

          (For Example; keeping Gorman in the lineup for 500-600 at bats, instead of the better fielder and contact hitter — Saggese)

          The Owners are to blame for not terminating Mozeliak for the horrible off-season he provided the Cardinals —- he should have been released and let Bloom take over just a few months early.

          Get Mozeliak gone!! Let Marmol
          Pick his team…… Let Chaim Bloom take it from there!!

          With Mozeliak and his philosophies gone —- who knows… the Cardinals could be surprising and win the weak NL Central!!!

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      • headhawks

        4 months ago

        As a cardinal fan, thank you but it’s self inflicted. lol.

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        Reply
  2. Troy Percival's iPad

    4 months ago

    Sigh

    That would require having 6 MLB Quality guys available. It’s maddening to see teams still do this

    Reply
  3. O'sSayCanYouSee

    4 months ago

    So their just brazenly flaunting their SP health and depth?!~ Gloating even…

    Cool cool

    1
    Reply
  4. bighiggy

    4 months ago

    Sounds to me like they want to see the young guys, and showcase and hopefully keep the trade chips healthy

    3
    Reply
  5. CardsFan57

    4 months ago

    Are they assuming all six can be healthy at the same time?

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    • Acoss1331

      4 months ago

      Cardinals probably want to showcase Matz is healthy so that they can trade him would be my guess to have all six rotation going instead of five.

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      Reply
      • Cody G

        4 months ago

        Yup showcase him
        Give mlb opportunities to younger guys without need to stretch out in Memphis if need to transition from pen
        Reduce injuries i guess too?

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        Reply
    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      4 months ago

      Where’s Joel ???

      1
      Reply
  6. RobblyDobs

    4 months ago

    Sensible.

    Reply
  7. Jump 84

    4 months ago

    Sure. NL Central will be the black and blue division.

    Reply
  8. Steve E.

    4 months ago

    I dunno. McGreevy is a total soft-tosser. By the way, call somebody that in London and you’ll get punched.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      4 months ago

      But not if you offer someone spotted d¡ck.

      Reply
      • BaseballBrian

        4 months ago

        Blimey, now you’re just being a wanker.

        1
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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          4 months ago

          I would’ve gone with ‘a wally’ or ‘a plonker’, but whatever leaves you chuffed.

          Reply
    • RobblyDobs

      4 months ago

      Not if they actually are soft.

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      Reply
  9. HEHEHATE

    4 months ago

    Give liberatore his chance already.

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    Reply
    • LaFleur

      4 months ago

      Mcgreevy and Pallante have earned a starters roll more than Liberatore they’ve all kinda had really good springs libby actually having the better spring. Pallante might get the role early and if he or anyone struggles and libby does good they might give him a chance then

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      Reply
    • CardsFan57

      4 months ago

      Liberatore gets lit up every time they put him in the rotation.

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      • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

        4 months ago

        Libby was steadily improving last year. It felt like he was ready for the next step. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him be a steady 7th inning guy this year.

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  10. DarkSide830

    4 months ago

    Just go with 5 guys and keep Matz as the long man.

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  11. whyhayzee

    4 months ago

    The Department of Pitching Efficiency says to go with a zero-man rotation.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      4 months ago

      Bigly!

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      Reply
    • LaFleur

      4 months ago

      That’ll result in few days trip taking 8 months…

      Reply
  12. Card Fan for Life

    4 months ago

    This is comical LOL

    Reply
  13. RotiniRick

    4 months ago

    Carrying only 7 in the pen has a ton of risks especially in the beginning of the season when the starters are usually good for four, five tops.

    1
    Reply
  14. SimbaHOF2019

    4 months ago

    Six man rotation aint happening. Denton will grab at any straw for a scoop.

    1
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    • RotiniRick

      4 months ago

      Denton also tweeted that based on metrics, Nootbarr has the potential of Ohtani and Soto so yeah.

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      Reply
  15. BigV

    4 months ago

    I’m good with it

    Reply
  16. Rsox

    4 months ago

    Matz is bound to get injured after a start or two so the 6 man rotation should be short lived

    1
    Reply
  17. thebirds

    4 months ago

    Maybe I’ll do what that guy, Rosie O’Donnell did and move out of the country for four years until this team‘s back to normal….

    Reply
  18. Kenny14

    4 months ago

    Fire Oli and Mo now! We still have 152 games to go in the season. I can see no reason to wait. Let’s try out the youth on the diamond and the new on the management team.

    1
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  19. Flags in the wind

    4 months ago

    McGreevy in, Roycroft out? Ok.
    Matz has performance bonuses starting at 130 IP.

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