11:26pm: Gilbert told reporters (including Adam Jude of The Seattle Times) that he expects to go for an MRI tomorrow.
9:59pm: The Mariners announced that Logan Gilbert exited tonight’s start against the Marlins with forearm tightness. Gilbert had fired three perfect innings with a trio of strikeouts. He was lifted for Casey Lawrence to begin the fourth.
Gilbert’s fastball was in the 94-95 MPH range throughout the night. His final heater checked in at 95.4 MPH, right in line with his 95.6 MPH season average. The stuff still seemed sharp, but the M’s are obviously going to be extremely cautious with any kind of forearm discomfort. Gilbert entered play tonight with a 2.63 earned run average and 41 strikeouts through his first 27 1/3 innings. It was an even more impressive start than last year, when he landed sixth in AL Cy Young balloting after posting a 3.23 ERA over an MLB-high 208 2/3 frames.
Skipper Dan Wilson will presumably provide more information postgame. It’s impossible to know the severity this soon, but it’s a concerning development anytime a top pitcher experiences forearm discomfort. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the Mariners send Gilbert for imaging over the weekend.
Seattle opened the season without star righty George Kirby, who battled shoulder inflammation early in Spring Training. Kirby progressed to throwing a bullpen session before tonight’s game, his first mound work after a six-week shutdown (link via Daniel Kramer of MLB.com). He’s expected to throw live batting practice next week. Kirby appears to be progressing nicely, but he’s certainly still weeks away from a return to major league action.
Luis Castillo, Bryan Woo and Bryce Miller have filled their customary mid-rotation spots behind Gilbert. The final rotation spot has been a struggle in Kirby’s absence. Luis F. Castillo allowed seven runs in as many innings over two starts. Emerson Hancock has given up 10 runs across 11 2/3 frames in three outings.
Hope he’s ok. Such a good pitcher.
Paging Dr Attrache. The rich get richer. Shoulda been an ortho.
Instead of a Taylor
Also- Paging Dr Beats
“Ruh-roh” – Abraham Lincoln
“Allright alright alright!” Abraham (a Bra hamming it up) in a Lincoln
This season will not be fun if we lose him
With how our roster is built we need all of our starting pitchers to be healthy to even think about the playoffs
That is a fact.
Jack
Tommy John Surgery incoming…
Make sure to get 2nd and 3rd opinions…
Hoping that 2nd and 3rd opinion isn’t sarcasm. With the recovery timeline of TJS and the seriousness of it to one’s arm I’d hope all players get at least a 2nd opinion.
With the timing 2025 is gone either way and bulk of 2026. Sucks cus the UCL endemic that’s been plaguing MLB has been depriving the sport and the fans from alot of its top talent.
The catch 22 here is the balance if having pitchers dial it back to ensure arm health over peak performance. It seems it would be hard to quantify which would ultimately add the most to peak performance. Ensuring arm health would lower pitch speeds and spin rates. On the other hand keeping top arms in games would offset to whatever extent as the top arms provide more value at less than 100% opposed to back of rotation and those barely hanging in bullpen. Would love to see someone try and quantify it tho as far as the effect on peak performance. From a financials perspective it’s obviously viable as teams haven’t pushed for change.
@Tigers3232
Thanks for the AI response.
That’s not an AI response. As you can see there’s a typo or 2 I left.
In all seriousness I do wonder if pushing pitchers to the nth degree is ultimately providing the best overall product. I also wonder how far pitchers would have to dial it back to prevent these injuries and if that would make that significant of a difference.
There has to a way to try and quantify the net gains in performance from either approach. I have no idea what that is tho.
He has the flu… He’s fine.
You need to be a bit more honest on the runs Hancock has given up. They were mostly in his first game. He gave up 6 runs in 2/3rds of an inning. He has been very good his last 2 starts.
Seems to me Hancock has secured his spot as the 6th man. He seems to have that 1 game and after it gets assimilated into his stats and doesn’t show up on the stats as a glaring red stop light.
“Emerson Hancock” sounds like a fellow who, as a child, played catch with his butler.
I’m dying. I’m dead.
@Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Thoughts and prayers.
Mr. Gilbert, meet Mr. John. The good news is, you probably won’t pitch in ‘26, and the lockout might cost you the ‘27 season.
@Birdie man
No worries. Neither of the greedy owners or players think of their fans. They can not play for a bit and lose fans to other sports, only for us to have another session of juicing to bring popularity back to the game.
Still too early to say but doesn’t look good. Minimal miss is probably a month at best. Hopefully they don’t drag this out if he ends up needing TJ surgery. Gonna need him back asap even if it’s next year…..
A month? TJS are more than a year.
@M’s due to the timing if he has TJS delaying it a bit won’t affect much at this point. Recovery would stretch well into 2026 and any appearances in 2026 would be severely limited.
It sucks but TJS has become part of the game. Teams willing to roll the dice and hope peak performance out weighs the total time lost to injury. Players willing to roll those same dice as that’s what it takes to get the insane TOR contracts.
12-14 months for tjs. Well aware of the timeframe. If it is that, I hope he goes under the knife sooner than later so we will get some of him back for 2026.
12-18 months. The difference between that 14 and 18 is significant, average TJS patient returns in 15 months and then is treated with caution. That washes most of 2026.
Well, we know what this means
They miss the playoffs by two games instead of one?
OMG Tj would be terrible for this team
Hate to hear forearm tightness. Hopefully it’s just some early season soreness.
Typical Idiot Injury
Are you an expert in the field?
@Gwynning
No, I only play one on the internet.
Know your Lookout Landing lore.
Obviously, I dont. Haha cheers
Two years of arb control after 2025
I am terrified.
Good luck Mariners fans!
Hail Mary, full of grace…..
Can’t have sh%t in Seattle.
I do not want to be in Seattle then.
There’s plenty of the good sh%t in Seattle.
Wesside
Forearm tightness seems to always lead to TJS. Either before the end of this season or the beginning of next. Not wishing it on anyone, just my observation.
Grok says “it’s plausible that 30-50% of MLB pitchers placed on the IL for forearm tightness eventually require Tommy John surgery, either immediately or after failed conservative treatments”
I’m not completely off base.
“Always”
Iw would say 70-80%. Intially they try to downplay things. Blow some smoke. Delay. Then they say they are looking for a second opinion. Second opinions are the same as the first. Ryan Weathers is another dude that I see next for a TJ. Luzardo could be since that dude is injury prone.
Its a Tommy John. Wait to see.
Those who are gravitating to the worst case scenario are being frivolous.
Hey Anthony, Emerson Hancock has a 3.27 ERA and a WHIP of 1.09 in his last two starts.
All the ugly was in his first outing.
It may not continue but give the dude credit when he picks the team up like that!