Athletics closer Mason Miller was “unavailable tonight,” according to manager Mark Kotsay, who also said the decision was not injury-related. The A’s held a 5-3 lead over the Mariners entering the ninth inning at Sutter Health Park tonight and elected to stick with rookie Jack Perkins rather than go to the flamethrowing closer Miller, who hasn’t pitched since Saturday. The heavy implication is that a trade may be in the works for Miller, who is known to be of interest to the Padres and Yankees among others.
The Mets and Phillies were linked to Miller earlier today. The Phillies have since acquired Jhoan Duran from the Twins, while the Mets subsequently added Tyler Rogers and Ryan Helsley (plus Gregory Soto five days ago). The list of potential suitors for Miller is likely extensive, though the young talent required to get him will be significant.
Miller, 27 in August, is under team control through 2029. He’s also one of the game’s best relievers. Miller’s 39.1 K% ranks second among all relievers, as does his average fastball velocity of 101.2. Some might say Miller has slipped a bit from last year’s breakout All-Star performance, but his 3.76 ERA in a 38 1/3 inning sample will hardly deter interested GMs. Miller’s walk rate has worsened, and he’s been barreled up a good amount this year, but he’s still an impact stopper who’s under control for four-plus years.
In Tim Dierkes’ mailbag last week, he attempted to find comps for a reliever of Miller’s caliber being traded. Tim concluded, “Even going back a decade to identify those comps, there’s not a great match for Miller, trading one of the game’s best relievers at the deadline with four-plus years of control remaining. Unless the waters are muddied with, say, Luis Severino’s contract, I’d expect two very good 55/60 grade prospects, and perhaps an equivalent player with MLB experience, to be required.”
As J.J. Cooper of Baseball America outlined yesterday, typically about three top-100 prospects are traded at the deadline each year. We’ve seen one thus far, with #50 Eduardo Tait heading to Minnesota to headline the Duran deal. Mick Abel, the secondary piece in that trade, is “very much is on the very cusp of the Top 100” according to Cooper. Keep in mind that Duran is under team control for two-plus years, while Miller is under control for four-plus. Miller’s arbitration salaries will only begin next year.
We haven’t seen a top-25 prospect traded since the Padres included a pair in the 2022 Juan Soto deal. I’d have to think Miller would require at least one such player, such as Zyhir Hope, Josue De Paula, or Dalton Rushing of the Dodgers or George Lombard Jr. of the Yankees. It’s been eight years since a team parted with a top ten prospect at the deadline; Padres President of Baseball Operations & General Manager A.J. Preller holds one such chip in #5-ranked Leo De Vries. It’s also possible that contenders could win the bidding by including valuable players off the big league roster. The Padres have one of those in play in rental starter Dylan Cease; it might require a third team and a lot of creativity (and more players) to spin him into Miller. We’ll find out in less than 17 hours.
A potential Miller trade would take place in a time of uncertainty for the Athletics, who are playing in a minor league ballpark in Sacramento in the first of what is meant to be three seasons. A’s owner John Fisher held a symbolic groundbreaking for his new Las Vegas stadium back in June, though it’s still unclear how that will be financed.
Better be for a major haul
It’s the A’s, odds are we’re about to get robbed. We do good in drafts but not in trades.
Any day now, Franklin Barretto will finally break out
Barretto and Kevin Smith will lead us to greatness.
They only started doing good in drafts when they started picking in the top 5 consistently.
That is false we had good drafts in ’20, ’21, and ’22 with picks in the backend of every round. 21 was our best by far and our pick was #25.
Technically Kurtz was only their top 5 pick. Been screwed by draft lottery format
Since when? Do you want to look at the last 30 years of draft picks for the A’s and show me how drafts were better than trades?
Maybe they could throw in that kurtz guy.
It’s Forst. He’ll trade Miller for Estuery Ruiz, citing him as the “most complete player he’s ever seen” again.
Lol
Yeah he’s gonna f it up. It’s going to be a package of AAA pitchers who all profile as backend starters.
Walcott for miller 😮
I hope the A’s wouldn’t do that. Not only the wrong type of prospect, but they’d have to face him 10 times a year.
Wrong type a player? Cause hes good?
No, because he’s a SS.
In the 818 universe or what?
Haha nice edit. Not an outfielder… but now you switched it to SS… Yeah your right SS’s never have the talent to play anywhere else. Plus Wilson will be traded by the time hes ready.
Well, SS and OF both. A’s need TOR arms. Hence, SS or OF = wrong type pf prospect.
Walcott projected to move to 3rd
Rangers should not make such a trade .. i mean if Miller could be counted on to start .. but not as a reliever
A’s have to be hugely motivated to make this trade…
Maybe Mariners? Maybe???
The teams do line up well, but the A’s haven’t been prone to trading in division.
SP Jurrangelo Cintge
Cf tai peete
SP Emerson Hancock
3B Ben Williamson
They just seen what be Williamson can do at 3B
Not nearly enough for Mason Miller
Conversation starts with Colt Emerson, Michael Arroyo, and Ryan Sloan. Williamson is a nice secondary piece. Peete and Hancock are nice third type pieces.
He’s going to be so expensive in prospects. Something like Celesten and Sloan, plus. They could do it, but I’d understand if they don’t for a reliever.
Please don’t do it, Preller (it’s going to happen)
Padres prospect I have no interest. A 18 yr old shortstop but too far away. Salas is injured and seems overrated. David Morgan would seem like a target if A’s want a mlb reliever as part of deal
Lol, I would gladly part with Morgan. Salas’ stock is down and could impede a trade, but switch-hitting, 18-year-old SSs with league-average offense don’t grow on trees.
Preller working on big deals. Maybe trading Suarez for a bat and Salas for miller?
Shouldn’t do Salas for Miller unless De fries is also included.
Salas couldn’t centerpiece a Miller deal at this point. It’d probably be De Vries, Salas, and Bergert/Kolek
They aren’t trading DeVries Salas for a reliever.
I’m praying, brother. I don’t want them to move off Salas specifically because his value is low, but I don’t think I could stomach trading Wood and De Vries.
You wouldn’t be getting just a reliever you’d be getting a straight up ace who’s not a FA until 2030. And the Padres wouldn’t keep him in the pen they’d put him back in the rotation where he used to (and probably should be).
He’s easily worth Salas and DeVries. They both might be great in a few years but Miller is great right now.
My guess is Salas gets dealt for Kwan. Cleveland loves glove first catchers. That is Salas’s floor. Padres will add another couple of prospects to close the deal.
Preller is gonna do something
Nine- he is worth what someone is willing to pay. It won’t be both of them. It could be DeVries but players like DeVries are almost never traded.
Salas is gonna possibly be traded but it won’t be for a reliever who may or may not be a starter. The A’s moved away from that idea already and they know him best.
He is and honestly, if trading Miller to the Padres means he gets to be a starter again then I’d be happy for that part. Love this pitcher and I really think the FO did him dirty by not giving him an extension in the off-season and rather gave that money to Severino.
Nine- yeah that was dumb but I think the A’s are ultimately planning for Vegas.
Who I really want is the A’s catcher. You add him and we are talking
Simm- He’s a beast and he’d do better on a team with a pitching staff that cares and knows how to keep runners at first closer to the bag. The SB numbers are killing his def metrics this year and lot of that is on our pitchers unfortunately.
Just don’t tell any other A’s fans you like him because some of those cats think he’s one of the worst catchers in the game lol.
If that’s true, A’s should consider making miller starter again. They’ve been limiting his workload probably also because so many blowout games
God doesn’t give a rip over team needs .. hanging on to prospects(!)
You don’t trade 2 high prospects for an ace reliever
Relievers are so variable
Look at tanner scott this year
Helsley’s fastball’s been being hammered.
Miller carries injury risk going ahead
I mean they really should. He’d immediately be their ace and you put Ginn and Perkins at 2 and 3. Then at some point next year you bring up Jump and Morales and you’ve got your main 5 right there until Arnold and Lin are ready.
I’m a pads fan, I hope we aren’t trading Devries lol.
I’m an A’s fan, I hope we aren’t trading Miller for Salas lol
I feel that Salas has entered that phase where the Padres and their fans are only pretending he is grudgingly available, and it should be a warning sign to all buyers
The offensive struggles are disappointing, but back issues at his age are a huge red flag.
I think he is staying put unless Dodgers offer Hope or de Paula.
Hope that Hope doesnt turn into willie calhoun … kinda similar
Heyman says it’s the Padres in pursuit. It’s also Heyman saying it so…..
Arson Judge to the Giants!
That really never gets old! In Jon Heyman we trust!
Dont trade Salas or DeVries.
Both were #1 International prospects in subsequemt years and are uilding blocks of long term contender.
Both will be starting in the big leagues before their 20th birthdays.
No way it’s the Padres unless Preller moved Suarez and or Cease and those prospects are going to the Athletics. Doubt it’s the Phillies or Mets either. If it is indeed a trade I can see 3 teams: Yankees, Dodgers, or Tigers with the first 2 being more likely than the last because I think the Tigers make a move at the last minute for Gore.
Even with Salas ‘ low stock, I think the A’s would jump at De Vries, Salas, and a solid pitching prospect (Nett?).
If I were As, I might take De Vries straight up for Miller but I see no chance at all of either team making that deal. Zero. Better chance that the Padres trade Robert Suarez to the Dodgers for Dustin May.
They’d get a haul for sure. 4.5 years of control for a premium gas relief arm should command an obscene return. I think there are many better options, but Preller’s gonna Preller.
Lol May’s free at end of the year .. why would pads want that ?
Mark
That won’t happen either. But Padres could trade Cease for a stud outfielder and have May replace Cease. But my point was that I don’t see Padres acquiring Miller, even as a starter.
Doesn’t fit their needs. You only trade miller to fill much needed rotation depth
They have Bergert/Kolek at the ML level, and both look like 4/5 types. If that’s the route A’s really wanna go, Padres could offer one with Baez, Nett, and Morgan.
Padres have several controlled starters. Bergert, Kolek are ready. Nett Baez and several others are near ready. Padres farm outside of the top 2 are full of starting pitching.
Kolek on his 3rd team and age 28 seems like perfect low upside target lol
Preller is gonna go all in on Miller and one of Kwan/Duran
May trade the entire farm.
A’s better get Cease, King, and three top prospects for Miller
lol
Could be Detroit. They are looking for a power closer and have the young talent to make it happen.
Supposedly their top 2 prospects are untouchabl mcgonigle, Clark
Knew it!! If the deadline was not within 24 hrs or if the A’s were closer to contention M M would 100% been in for the 9th tonight. Too bad we couldn’t score 1 more there.
The A’s BP has been pretty good overall lately. Its sad if they trade MM, it makes sense of course but its just another sad chapter in a criminally unjust affair in the treatment of a Historic Franchise. Shame on you MLB for letting this owner do that to the City of Oakland and more importantly the A’s brand.
If they were smart they’d trade away newcomb. Kelly and sterner too , combo deal or trade addition for better return. But I’m expecting to be disappointed with any trade return by the GM forst
I think I agree with that, selfishly I’d like my Mariners to go after MM, possibly Newcomb. I know the A’s are a long way back in the WC but they’ve been playing pretty good ball lately. If they trade MM they could get a package that has someone who can help them (stay) on a heater bringing them closer to having an outside chance at the 3rd WC
The AL doesn’t have an Uber team, frankly every AL team is flawed imo. Its almost certainly too late now but…. If the Rotation stays together and pitches pretty well….there is a Universe where it could get interesting for OAK ….? Am I Crazy?
The Braves send the A’s top outfield prospect Jared Kelenic and top Pitching prospect Bryce Elder for Mason Miller. Who says No?
The A’s
There’s no such thing as a 26 year old “prospect” with more than 400 MLB games under their belt and .1 WAR over 5 seasons. That’s called a washout.
I believe that was what we call a joke, friend
Throw in profar – it’s a deal
Yankees trade Spencer Jones or the Martian and Cam to get this done!
I think the Jasson Dominguez shine has worn off. Nobody is giving up their top closer for him.
Can you send him to the Brewers please, we don’t need the Braves as middle men this time. Luis Lara seems sort of Ruizish, and hes a switch hitter to boot.
The Braves send Brewers Sean Murphy and Iglesias, Braves send Kelenic and Elder to A’s, A’s send Miller to Braves and Brewers send Contreras and Peralta to Braves. A’s and Braves send Brewers $25K each. Done deal.
Braves get all of that for those 2 prospects? No go
This has “take advantage of Brian Cashman again” written all over it……
And more overhyped Yankees prospects written all over it
Doesn’t matter if they’re overhyped if they’re better than the return. See: Frankie Montas.
Unless it’s a handful of pitchers, trading away Miller is not worth it. The A’s are going to screw this trade up as usual.
Maybe Seattle started discussing an insane package of top prospects just to keep him out of the game tonight when they fell behind
The A’s need MLB pitching now and if they do not get that with Miller, then there is no point of trading him away.
LOL. Do you know who the owner is?
Phillies send MLB Pipeline #20 overall prospect SS Aiden Miller, RHP Gage Wood (Phillies 2025 1st round pick who had one of the greatest pitching performance in the CWS throwing a no hitting and struck out 19 batters) and Phillies #11 Seth Johnson (on the big lead roster throws 99mph) for Mason Miller
A’s get a top 20 overall prospect Aiden Miller
#11 Seth Johnson
(No official ranking yet) RHP Gage Wood
Phillies get Mason Miller
Phillies pass on big bat and double down on bullpen pitching for playoffs. With their great starting pitching, Phillies play small ball in playoff to scratch 1 or 2 runs per game. Should be enough to win games with current lineup.
CC2- can draft picks be traded in the same season they are taken? They didnt used to be.
Of course acquire 2 best closers on trade market and manage to keep 2 of their top 4 prospects, how convenient
Conversation starts with
Aidan Miller 20
Justin Crawford 44
Aroon Escobar 86
It’ll also include guys like Keaton Anthony, Jean Cabrera, Moises Chance
People seem to forget what bidding wars do to price tags on players. Dodgers will bid everyone up cause they can just afford to spend money to fill gaps so prospects don’t mean much to them compared to other teams. So unless you’re willing to outbid the dodgers who have their own elite prospects good luck.
Wonder if Mets are making a push, considering that Diaz might opt out of his contract.
He’s a Dodger.
Return: Alex Webster, Rubby De La Rosa, Jeter Downs, and Connor Wong.
The Padres, Tigers, & Red Sox have the best mix of prospects/young assets to land Miller, so naturally the A’s will send him to the Yankees or Dodgers for an overhyped prospect that never pans out.
A’s were impressed by 3B Ben Williamson. He was pulled from today’s game late. Maybe he will switch to the A’s team and not get on the mariners plane ride home
Mason Miller you are a Mariner!
Or, he’s going elsewhere like the minors cause Seattle acquired Suarez to play 3B. No sense in letting a rookie ride the pine when he can get playing time in the minors
Ben Williamson single-handedly won the game Monday night with the greatest defensive display ever seen by man, and Sacramento would be crazy not to give up Miller for him.
The excitement around Williamson will probably solve any remaining financing issues in Vegas.
No brainer
The A’s have to aim a lot higher than that.
The Tigers could send C/1B Thayron Liranzo #5, INF Max Anderson #9 and RHP Jaden Hamm #10 to the A’s for Miller.
Why would they say no?
So highest rated prospect tigers would give up liranzo who is #65 on baseball america top 100 list
Yankees trade : Lombard, pereria, Warren, volpe, Gomez, vivas, escarra
A’s trade: Miller, Andujar
Ill wait to get roasted here but that’s my offer
Yeah that’s gonna be a no for me dawg
Get it together bro, your pet’s head fell off.
Tigers are getting Miller, Springs and Soderstrom. That’s my prediction. Which will be totally wrong;)
Passan confirms Miller and Sears to Padres