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Red Sox Interested In Dalton Rushing

By Nick Deeds | July 25, 2025 at 11:35am CDT

The Red Sox have interest in Dodgers catcher Dalton Rushing, according to a report from Sean McAdam of MassLive. McAdam also reports that the Dodgers have had a scouting presence at Boston’s High-A affiliate in Greenville to monitor shortstop prospect Franklin Arias and left-handed prospect Brandon Clarke. It’s unknown whether a deal between the two sides is close at this time or what the exact framework of a deal involving Rushing would look like.

Rushing, 24, was a second-round pick by the Dodgers in 2022 and entered the 2025 season as a consensus top-30 prospect in the sport. He slashed a sensational .308/.424/.514 in 31 games at Triple-A Oklahoma City for the Dodgers earlier this year before being promoted to the majors back in May. He’s struggled since that promotion while serving as the backup to Will Smith, with a .216/.280/.297 slash line across 27 games. He’s struck out in a worrisome 41.5% of his plate appearances, but has looked like a capable defensive catcher and has some impressive underlying power numbers including a 12.2% barrel rate.

While Rushing may not be an immediate impact player at this point, he’d be a long-term addition with plenty of upside for the Red Sox who could make up for the loss of Kyle Teel in this past winter’s Garrett Crochet deal. In the short-term, meanwhile, he would surely be an improvement over Connor Wong as the backup to Carlos Narvaez behind the plate in Boston. Wong has had a brutal season in 2025, hitting just .144/.228/.144 across 101 plate appearances. That’s 95% worse than league average by measure of wRC+, and his weak offense has been complemented by middling defense behind the plate. Rushing would provide as much or more defensive value as compared to Wong, with a modestly more valuable bat in the short-term and plenty of long-term room for growth behind the plate both offensively and defensively.

Both prospects McAdam reports the Dodgers have been scouting are extremely well-regarded. Following the graduations of Kristian Campbell, Roman Anthony, and Marcelo Mayer earlier this year, MLB Pipeline rates Arias as the top prospect in Boston’s system while Clarke clocks in as the system’s fourth-best prospect. Baseball America, meanwhile, places Arias fourth and Clarke sixth in the system on a ranking that still includes both Anthony and Mayer. Arias is ranked 34th overall in Pipeline’s top 100 while Clarke is unranked. BA is lower on Franklin (55th overall) but views Clarke as a top-100 talent in his own right as he’s 72nd on their list.

That pair of prospects would be a substantial return if the Dodgers were able to land them both in exchange for Rushing’s services, particularly considering the fact that Rushing is largely blocked by the presence of Smith on a long-term deal. Catching talent is highly sought-after around the league, however, and with other catching-hungry teams like the Rays, Nationals, Guardians, and Mets all potentially on the lookout for help behind the plate it would surely be a competitive market if the Dodgers were to make Rushing available.

That L.A. is scouting some of Boston’s high-end prospects should not necessarily be taken as a sign that a deal is close or especially likely. McAdam suggests that the Dodgers might not be motivated to part with a player on their major league roster to acquire prospects far away from the majors. It wouldn’t be a shock if a club that was willing to offer L.A. immediate help of significance was better positioned to land Rushing, and the Guardians in particular have intriguing pieces they could dangle such as closer Emmanuel Clase and outfielder Steven Kwan, both of whom could make plenty of sense for a Dodgers club that is on the prowl for bullpen help and has gotten minimal production from Michael Conforto in left field. That’s a largely speculative connection, of course, and Rushing by himself surely wouldn’t be enough to land either one of those players.

All that said, it wouldn’t be the first time the Dodgers have dealt a blocked top prospect in exchange for long-term pieces. Prior to the 2024 season, L.A. swapped Michael Busch (and right-hander Yency Almonte) to the Cubs in a deal that landed them outfield prospect Zyhir Hope and left-handed pitching prospect Jackson Ferris. That pair of prospects were not yet consensus top-100 talents and were even farther from the majors then than Arias and Clarke are now, but the deal has certainly paid off for the Dodgers given that Hope is rated as the sport’s #31 prospect by Pipeline while Ferris clocks in at #97. Of course, it must be noted that the Busch trade was an offseason deal, and the urgency associated with the trade deadline could make the Dodgers less incentivized to focus on bolstering their farm system when they’re in the midst of defending their title as the reigning World Series champions.

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  1. MeowMeow

    2 months ago

    Can he play first? 😂

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    • Rsox

      2 months ago

      He does have 10 innings as a late game replacement at 1B this season. Seems like the Dodgers may need to buy prospects to flip in other deals. Rushing will never get to play everyday in LA with Smith signed long-term so might as well get something you need for him. Heck the Sox can throw Wong in the deal too as he has been effectually useless all season

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      • letitbelowenstein

        2 months ago

        Wong went from being a 5-6 day a week catcher to a seldom-used backup. That will drop a player’s performance. He’s still better than Vazquez who’s name I always hear in trade rumors.

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      • Uncle Pedro’s Dancing Kittens

        2 months ago

        Giving up 2 of our top prospects for an unproven catcher who has not hit at the major league level seems like way too much.

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        • christaylormvp

          2 months ago

          Trading one of the Dodgers top prospects for a couple of Sox top prospects makes sense when you continue your thought about hitting at the Major League level. Neither of the Sox two prospects have hit at the Major League level, either.

          Rushing has raked at every level and is currently a rookie in the league playing every third game or so, spelling Smith when he needs a day. I challenge anyone to succeed offensively in that scenario.

          Despite that, he still has good barrel stats and carrying around average ish numbers for a catcher.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          christaylormvp
          Rushing has raked at every level
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          I’m leery of Rushing’s Ks. In his go-around in AAA, he had 29 Ks in 106 ABs. He had a good number of walks, and he’s a catcher, but that concerns me.

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        • christaylormvp

          1 month ago

          fair from you, but the others calling him a flop or citing his lack of success based on a half a season playing part time in MLB are way off base.

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        • Uncle Pedro’s Dancing Kittens

          1 month ago

          Not sure if you included me in that. I said unproven, which certainly does not mean a flop. My focus for the Red Sox is to get a proven starter and offensive piece (likely first baseman), to actually compete against the best teams this year. If they are going to do that, they can’t give up top prospects for another prospect.

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    • letitbelowenstein

      2 months ago

      He can. And probably without an attitude.

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      • GASoxFan

        2 months ago

        And without a bat to make any impact what-so-ever.

        He came up in the hitter friendly PCL and has skunked at mlb level.

        Not worth either arias or Clarke IMO.
        Yeah, they may not pan out as prospects, but, neither has this guy so far. I’d stick with the much higher ceiling in what we know than what’s in LAs cast offs.

        Dating back to the blockbuster 200m salary clearer or even to mookie, all of the ‘well regarded’ LAD prospects sent to Boston were worth less than a hill of beans. Don’t buy friedman’s castoffs

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        • fox471 Dave

          2 months ago

          You are so wrong in your assessment of Rushing. But that is ok. We need to keep him.

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        • Bruin1012

          2 months ago

          I’m fine with keeping Clarke he has some of the nastiest stuff in the minors.

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        • christaylormvp

          1 month ago

          This is about as real as I’ve seen here. The Dodgers are so good at trades, they always get the better end of them, making you wary of anyone thrown your way in a trade. That said, Rushing is gonna be good, and he’s just getting started.

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  2. DanFan

    2 months ago

    Cease and Campusano to the BOSOX for Garcia boys and Early.

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    • acell10

      2 months ago

      that’s a worse deal for the red sox than the trade offer reported earlier

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    • 4WSsince04

      1 month ago

      Dan – no trade!

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  3. soxprospectsroverrated

    2 months ago

    Red Sox can pawn off another product of media hype, Franklin Arias and his mediocre stats.

    At least his mediocre stats are better than fellow media hype product, Kristian Campbell

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    • kyredsox17

      2 months ago

      Media hype Kristian Campbell? He’s a kid that flew through the minor leagues and got called up too soon. He will be back and he will be good.

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      • DirtyWater04

        2 months ago

        Yeah, his stats in the minors last year were not media hype. He just wasn’t ready for major league pitching (and yet still held his own surprisingly well for being so obviously outmatched). He’s very young even for AAA, so people ready to throw in the towel and declare him a bust already are out of their minds.

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      • redsoxu571

        2 months ago

        You can see the guy’s username – trolls are gonna troll!

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    • acell10

      2 months ago

      I’d bet this is the first time you’ve ever heard of Franklin arias.

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    • cr4

      2 months ago

      You legitimately don’t know ball Arias is a phenomenal prospect with a much higher ceiling than Rushing

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      • ClevelandSteelEngines

        2 months ago

        It’s a stretch to say he has “a much higher ceiling than Rushing”.

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        • mainesox

          1 month ago

          He may be technically correct, especially if you listen to Keith Law, but even if he is correct, Arias also has a considerably lower floor than Rushing.

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    • Basketball geek

      2 months ago

      Agree, as a Sox fan, it’s crazy that they were ready to trade Duran, a proven commodity, extra base lead off hitter with excellent speed, to accommodate these rookies… Sox gave Campbell 60M / 8 year deal, hopefully that plays out ok. They traded Mookie, essentially nothing from that trade, Management felt the pressure to sign Devers, that didn’t work out. These rookies except for Roman Anthony, who is defintely a keeper… SOX HYPE UP their rookies, over accommodating them…

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  4. amk1920

    2 months ago

    Dodgers need to make a decision on him fast. Would rather move him to LF and get his bat in there everyday. Idc how awful he is defensively. They learned with Busch these kids need a chance

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    • Don’s Ghost

      2 months ago

      This is a great point. I wish we could have that patience with at least ONE of these hitting prospects.

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      • Mark in L A

        2 months ago

        Patience is unnecessary when you can spend like there’s no tomorrow ( not a dodgers fan )

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        • fox471 Dave

          2 months ago

          Really! Not a Dodger fan? Never would have guessed it.

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      2 months ago

      Trading Busch wasn’t about a lack of patience, it was about acquiring two highly-rated prospects for a blocked player.

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      • amk1920

        2 months ago

        I don’t have any problem with that deal. Rushing isn’t blocked to that extent. They need to be a little more bold looking for offense and if he is a butcher in LF so be it. Outman, Rojas, Ruiz (twins RP walking him aside) are not cutting it. They need more depth offense

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        • Van Lingle Mungo

          2 months ago

          Or you could trade him for these prospects and turn those prospects, along with maybe one or two more, into Clase and Kwan. That might be more appealing to Cleveland.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          Rushing (and any other Dodgers catching prospect) is trapped behind the Great Wall of Smith.

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        • Wren

          2 months ago

          if only they had an all star right fielder in the fold

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        • Basketball geek

          2 months ago

          Yes, if your going to trade prospects, Clase & Kwan is cool… don’t know how many years left of control… that”s a winning move!

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    • mlbdodgerfan2015

      2 months ago

      I think Rushing will be just fine but that said we still haven’t seen him flourish at the plate at the MLB level so no guarantees he can rake at MLB level. Busch in my opinion was a mistake but I am probably in the minority.

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      • Shrutefarm

        2 months ago

        Right now it looks bad. If Ferris and/or Hope amount to average or better, then it might not be as bad. Dalton, to me, has similar offensive capabilities if given enough of a runway. 4 – 8 AB’s a week is difficult for a rookie to flourish.

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        • mlbdodgerfan2015

          2 months ago

          Seems like Rushing has a good approach so more likely than not I’d think he will be an MLB level or better hitter. But always a chance he won’t. AAA numbers can be hit or miss with the PCL, but that said, he has also hit at other levels. We shall see. For Ferris and Hope it’s still a long road to MLB. Many elite prospects have faltered between high A/AA to MLB.

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        • Shrutefarm

          2 months ago

          All good points, my friend. I “hope” they pan out. To be honest, in my opinion, Dodgers biggest need right now is for some players already on the roster to get healthy and for Marcus Lynn Betts to snap out of whatever it is he’s going through right now.

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        • mlbdodgerfan2015

          2 months ago

          Agreed, that best case is for current guys to snap out of funks (Betts, Teo, Edman, Conforto, Yates, T Scott), Getting Muncy, Snell and Treinen back also huge.

          That said, they also need guys who can contribute now via trade. A bat and two high leverage bullpen arms.

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  5. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 months ago

    Fools Rush in!

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  6. norcalblue

    2 months ago

    Rushing is a 60 FV talent who has done nothing but solidify that status since being called up. He is a very valuable asset for the Dodgers moving forward. No player is untouchable, of course. But, Clarke and Arias (50 FV) hardly seem like the players needed to entice Friedman to move Rushing.

    Moreover, the current needs for LA are not at all addressed by the two prospects mentioned in this article. Friedman loves complicated, three-way deals and so something could be in the works, but it’s gonna have to be a much bigger deal than these three players.

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    • solaris602

      2 months ago

      I still think the best deal that’s waiting to happen is Rushing and DePaula to CLE for Clase and Bo Naylor. Makes a lot of sense for both teams. Naylor is much better suited as a backup which most Guardians fans are aware of.

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      • Can we please get a DH?

        2 months ago

        If the Guardians are demanding that for Clase, he will never move. I doubt the Dodgers would part with either one, let alone both for Clase.

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        • JerseyShoreScore

          2 months ago

          Dodgers certainly would not move either of those two players for Clase, they would have ZERO interest in Naylor.

          Clase has only been Elite in 1 of the last 3 seasons, and in his elite season in 2024, Clase choked away the series on his own to the Yankees.

          Clase is a good closer and has a nice contract, but they are looking for team to grossly overpay for an Elite closer.

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      • Van Lingle Mungo

        2 months ago

        That is ludicrous. The Dodgers wouldn’t make that trade #1, and #2, it’s way too much for Clase.

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        • Shrutefarm

          2 months ago

          A reliever is the most volatile of all positions. Soooo hot and then cold. We’ve seen it this year in LA. Two, not one, but TWO all star relievers have been terrible. LA paid a lot of money for them too. Trades are always a risk, but sending a top 5 prospect for a reliever is riskiest.

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    • redsoxu571

      2 months ago

      How can you say he’s “done nothing but solidify that status since being called up”? He has a 41.5% strikeout rate and a 0.081 ISO. Mind you, I’m inclined to give that the “small sample size” AND the “first exposure to MLB pitching, proceed with caution” treatments, but I think it’s safe to say he hasn’t added any further confidence to whatever was there at the moment of his call-up, no?

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      • GASoxFan

        2 months ago

        Also, don’t forget, getting good marks for framing is rapidly becoming obsolete with the impending robo-umps and the proposed challenge system for strike calls.

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  7. JV

    2 months ago

    Boston isnt trading Arias & Clarke for just Rushing! LA would need to kick in something else

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    • Butter Biscuits

      2 months ago

      It would not be a “substantial return” that’s bs

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    • Joe It All

      2 months ago

      We’ve already seen what the Dodgers had to give Boston for Mookie Betts so I’m not doubting they could get both of those guys for Rushing.

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      • Van Lingle Mungo

        2 months ago

        Yeah, they could probably get 2 more added on.

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      • all in the suit that you wear

        2 months ago

        The Dodgers took on $48M in the Betts trade which was half of David Price’s remaining contract. That was the main return to the Red Sox. When you take on that much money, the player return is less.

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        • GASoxFan

          2 months ago

          Also, there’s a different GM than before, for whatever that’s worth.

          So what bloom would accept has no correlation to what id hope breslow expects

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        • 4WSsince04

          1 month ago

          Allin – Jeter Downs was supposed to be a really good prospect, but he could not hit his weight in AAA.

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    • fox471 Dave

      2 months ago

      Of course they would. Rsox fans are so precious. Bless their hearts.

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      • Bruin1012

        2 months ago

        Spoken like a truly ignorant fan to prospects. Well let me educate you Arias is an elite contact hitter at 19 years old in High A. He strikes out about 10% of the time he has been hitting to a lot of bad luck indicated by his .278 babip in High A but that will change he does hit a lot of ground balls but he’s a really good prospect.

        Let me introduce you to Brandon Clarke as well his stuff is some of the nastiest in the minors high 90’s high spin fastballs coupled with one of the filthiest sliders in the minors. The point is barring injury he’s at least a lights out closer at the back end and if he can develop one of his other secondaries he can be a tor arm. It’s way too much to pay for a guy who will be a backup catcher on the Bosox.

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        • ClevelandSteelEngines

          2 months ago

          Pumping prospects is pathetic. Leave that to Padres fans who think Salas is still amazing.

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        • Bruin1012

          2 months ago

          Rushing is himself a prospect essentially giving up an arm like Clarke and a hitter like Arias for a backup catcher is not a good use of resources.

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        • ClevelandSteelEngines

          1 month ago

          Just considering Rushing as a back up catching is asymmetrical. It’d be like a Dodgers fan considering Mayer as a back up.

          As for the Sox giving up too much, you need to reevaluate Clarke and Arias. It’s been a couple months since the hype hit and the luster is wearing off that chrome. Clarke is walking way too many guys in High A. Arias hasn’t hit over .200 since before June.

          As for why this isn’t a waste of resources, the Sox need a second catcher. They have Mayer and Tolle so Clarke and Arias are superfluous. And they just picked up a few more starters in the draft. Rushing is at a discount right now. He’s blocked by Smith. And his production is hit a low. Considering how many pitchers the Dodgers have run through, he’s probably had no team to get settled offensively. Hence, this is a classic buy low, sell high. Enough to the point, the Dodgers are likely to reject this deal. The Sox pulled their guys the other night to prevent the Dodgers scouts from getting a good look. Which is a smart move with how things have been going for our guys.

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  8. highflyballintorightfield

    2 months ago

    Dodgers would have to get another catcher somewhere their minor leaguers are pretty underwhelming.

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    • mainesox

      2 months ago

      He’s been dreadful at the plate this year since the thumb injury, but I’m sure the Red Sox could send Connor Wong along with whatever prospects so the Dodgers have someone for backup catcher.

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      • DirtyWater04

        2 months ago

        Might be able to toss in Jeter Downs too if we’re really feeling frisky!

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        • Mark in L A

          2 months ago

          Them’s fightin words

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        • mainesox

          2 months ago

          lol

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    • taylor

      2 months ago

      Yeah, who backs up Smith if they send Rushing to Boston?

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      • BlueSkies_LA

        2 months ago

        Feduccia is next in line. Already on the 40-man.

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      • mlbdodgerfan2015

        2 months ago

        Hunter Feduccia who is at AAA. He is more than capable. And obviously backup catcher is not an important position until of course the starting catcher goes down.

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    • mlbdodgerfan2015

      2 months ago

      Hunter Feduccia will be just fine as an MLB backup catcher. I’d think an upgrade from Austin Barnes, their prior backup catcher for years.

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    • JerseyShoreScore

      2 months ago

      Dodgers have endured a half-decade of Barnes doing nothing as a backup. They would just move Hunter Feduccia into the backup catcher role and be perfectly fine. Prefer him to Naylor anyway.

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      • BlueSkies_LA

        2 months ago

        Nothing but managing pitchers at a very high level, which is a catcher’s primary job.

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    • fox471 Dave

      2 months ago

      Feduccia is just fine but I would keep Rushing. He plays once maybe twice a week. When he gets more at bats, he will be very good.

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      • mlbdodgerfan2015

        1 month ago

        He’s blocked by Smith and jury still out on his hitting. Is he going to be the hitter Busch is? Probably not. Doesn’t have to for catcher but if you can get value for him trade him. You can move him elsewhere internally but he loses the position value.

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  9. fred-3

    2 months ago

    Dodgers should be able to get something good for Rushing. He’d likely be a top ~15 catcher right now if he wasn’t blocked.

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    • GASoxFan

      2 months ago

      Needs to show he can hit mlb pitching and respond to mlb pitching adjustments to keep that bat going before he’s even in consideration as a top 30 catcher, let alone 15.

      As automated ball-strike systems appear, catcher value will become more dependent on hitting ability and CS %age

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      • fred-3

        2 months ago

        Most teams have backups or defensive-first starting catchers, so being a top 15 catcher isn’t that difficult. Most teams have a need for an MLB-ready catcher. He’s also good enough offensively where he can still have value at 1B.

        He has nothing left to prove in the minors and the only reason he’s not playing is that he’s backing up a top 3 catcher and a future Hall of Fame 1B.

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  10. DirtyWater04

    2 months ago

    How about they send him over for a PTBNL and a dry handy from Henry’s wife since they fleeced us so bad on the Mookie Betts trade? Then we can call it even.

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  11. letitbelowenstein

    2 months ago

    Breslow will deal Duran and Romy to get Rushing.

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  12. wvsteve

    2 months ago

    Like moves like this

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  13. AC Surf Baseball

    2 months ago

    Phillies acquire:
    A. Chapman LHP
    R. Refsnyder LF
    B. Clarke LHP (#25)
    Red Sox acquire:
    R. Marchan C
    O. Kemp INF (#20)
    J. Cabrera RHP (#11)
    A. McFarlane RHP (#16)
    C. Ricketts C (#27)
    K. Anthony 1B (#29)

    Buy and sell baseball cards and do a lot of baseball reference searches on other teams’ prospects – and I really like Brandon Clarke. Kind of nerdy but I write down mid level prospects from other teams that I think will be big leaguers. Have been watching Clarke’s stats after all his starts, the Phillies have a need for upper minors LHP’s (even after the draft) and have a knack for developing them successfully. Really do feel a blockbuster coming.

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    • Mark in L A

      2 months ago

      Kudos for research, but nothing about these players constitutes a ‘blockbuster’.

      Average-buster ?

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      • fox471 Dave

        2 months ago

        Mediocre – buster?

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    • DirtyWater04

      2 months ago

      The Red Sox are trying to compete, why would we dump our best reliever and a platoon bat who absolutely murders left handed pitching for prospects?

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      • GASoxFan

        2 months ago

        Not just that Dirty, but not even particularly impressive prospects?

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    • Cooperdooper7

      2 months ago

      No thanks on Otto Kemp… saw him in the 3 versus the Sox…. Nothing impressive…. not a thing

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  14. BlueSkies_LA

    2 months ago

    Anything further, father?

    I’m sure the Dodgers scout lots of players, but I am doubtful they trade Rushing for prospects when they have immediate bullpen needs.

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    • Van Lingle Mungo

      2 months ago

      However, they would do this as part of a three-way trade. They acquire these two prospects for Rushing, add one or two more from our system, and then go out and get Clase and Kwan with the other part. Friedman loves his three ways.

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      • BlueSkies_LA

        2 months ago

        Well, in that case they are still trading for the relievers they need, just in a more convoluted way.

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  15. User 2930726818

    2 months ago

    Rushing for Crochet straight up, who says no?

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      2 months ago

      The Dodgers say no. They have plenty of starting pitching. Too much, really. Their need is in the bullpen.

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      • mainesox

        2 months ago

        Both sides say no then, because there’s no way the Red Sox even consider that; they just traded Teel (similarly ranked to Rushing) plus three other well regarded players for Crochet 7 months ago…

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      • DirtyWater04

        2 months ago

        The Dodgers would not say no….

        They might have tons of good starters but they don’t have 5 who are better than Crochet. If they could get him for so stupidly cheap they would be thrilled to do so and figure out what to do with the other guys later.

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        • padrepapi

          2 months ago

          The Dodgers could add Roki to the deal and the Red Sox would still ponder if they’d make that trade. Not a ton of SP’s with more trade value than Crochet.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          Nobody would argue that Crochet wouldn’t make a great addition to any rotation, but he is on a long and expensive contract. So in addition to the Dodgers having far more immediate needs, this is the other reason why they say no. But I also agree that Boston is unlikely to move him.

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        • DirtyWater04

          2 months ago

          Pretty sure Crochet’s 6 year, $170 million contract is a better value than Blake Snell’s 5 years for $182 million, Tyler Glasnow’s 5 for $136 M, and Yoshi Yamamoto’s 12 year, $325 million ($375 when you factor in they had to pay the $50 million posting fee just to talk to him).

          Yoshi has at least been a stud, but no one wants to be on the hook for a 12 year deal. Crochet has been worth half as much WAR value this year as Glasnow has created in 10 years. Snell has hardly ever been durable, he’s going to spend at least half that contract on the DL. It is absurd to believe that the Dodgers would not gleefully trade for Crochet in a heartbeat if it could be done at the cost of just this one prospect, and then turn around and trade one of those other starters somewhere else.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          First, a correction: teams don’t pay posting fees “just to talk” to a player. They pay the fee only if they sign the player.

          Second, it’s nice to hear from someone who can predict the future with such certainty and knows in advance who will be injured and who will not. Got any hot stock tips?

          Third, Crochet’s contract includes $2M per season in escalators based on CY voting. This brings his AAV close to or above the AAV of the other pitchers you mention. He also has an opt-out. Value to the player, not the team. So, not as much excess value in this contract as you assume.

          Fourth, the Dodgers probably would not be interested in Crochet in the very unlikely event the Red Sox make him available, not because his contract is a poor “value” but because starting pitching is not their need. They will spend their trade chips on what they do need. But didn’t I say that before? I sure did. At least twice.

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        • DirtyWater04

          2 months ago

          Lol. Argue away on the semantics of posting fees. The important part is they signed him, so they paid it .$375 million over 12 years, deep into his 30s.

          Regarding Snell, the guy is almost 33 and has hit 180 IP in his career just twice. How many guys have you heard of becoming *more* durable as they get well into their 30s? Excluding the ones who were on HGH. Got a long list of guys who established a blueprint on squeezing longevity out of an arm that’s rarely been able to endure any?

          Paying Crochet an extra $2 million if he places in the Cy Young race does not make him *less* valuable or desirable, but that sure is an interesting take. And his opt-out is not until after 2030, so he is locked in for at least 5 years.

          And for the umpteenth time, I get it, I understand the Dodgers are not LOOKING to make a move like this. But if you sincerely believe, as you originally commented, that the Dodgers would say no to Crochet for this one prospect if the offer was presented to them (which is the premise of the comment we are both replying to, in case you forgot), then you are all kinds of stupid.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          By semantics, you mean the facts. A complete trash argument.

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        2 months ago

        That’s funny.

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      • Cooperdooper7

        2 months ago

        LMAO… BlueSkies_LA…. Comedy or just stupidity.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          Brilliant.

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      • freddiemeetgibby

        2 months ago

        No way Crochet has the same numbers in the 2nd half of the season. Not worth it

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          2 months ago

          Crochet’s numbers for the first half of this season closely track his career work. So, no reason to think he won’t continue to perform at this level. The Dodgers have good reasons to not trade for him, but performance ain’t it.

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        • freddiemeetgibby

          2 months ago

          He is about to go over his max innings, we shall see.

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    • Mark in L A

      2 months ago

      Seriously ?

      Reminescent of trading Wong for Betts
      straight up

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  16. crise

    2 months ago

    MIN should really be in on any Rushing trade. They really need a real catching prospect and this is the only one that’ll be available any time soon. It’ll cost the moon, but a Jax/Duran caliber reliever with two years of control left also costs the moon and this might be the time to play that card.

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      2 months ago

      Duran and Coulombe for Rushing and Banda.

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      • crise

        1 month ago

        Banda? 31 year old, 216 career innings, acquired for cash considerations, Anthony Banda? Coulombe is worth more alone.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 month ago

          The 31 year old controllable for two more years Anthony Banda for two months a 35 year old. Yes, that is how deals get done. How the Dodgers acquired Banda is completely irrelevant, obviously.

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        • crise

          1 month ago

          That’s how deals get done? Then instead of Coulombe we should send you Topa because he’s even younger and he has two years of control left. And look, his ERA is close to Banda’s so they must be the same. Which is to say that controlable is only a thing if the guy is good. No one cares about controlable when there’s no future,

          And that 35 year old has posted three years of outstanding work, 3.7 WAR over 110 innings, working to a 1.16 ERA in 40 games this year already. He’s worth far more than being a throw-in on a deal you’ve got stacked backwards already. Rushing isn’t enough for Duran alone and Banda isn’t worth anything and then you want Coulombe?

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 month ago

          Uh, what? Banda is hardly no-future. In fact over the last two seasons he’s been above average. He just isn’t what the Dodgers need right now. And it isn’t as if Coulombe comes without risk, given his age and current performance well above his career work shouting out potential regression. It would be a sell-high situation for the Twins.

          Similar situation with Rushing. Highly-rated rookies at a premium position with at least fives years of team control remaining don’t grow on trees. Duran is also performing well above his career numbers this season. Another sell-high opportunity.

          So yeah, that’s how deals get done. Always has been before.

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        • crise

          1 month ago

          He’s 31 and coming into his own a bit, a bit behind the schedule of Michael Tonkin, for example. It’s not nothing but he’s only got 1.5 years of competence in the past nine and the peripherals are not as good as the ERA. Keep him, we already have Tonkin, Topa, oops traded Paddack, etc.

          EDIT: Duran is working in line with his top shelf career numbers and is always a sell-high. That’s who he is, and he’s got two more years of control left.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 month ago

          Okay so you don’t know how these deals are done. I get it already.

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        • crise

          1 month ago

          He’s nothing special. There are dozens of guys like this in MLB and hundreds more piling up waiting their change to have a good year and vanish. He dropped his arm angle to get more bite on his slider, but his fastball gets hit, his K rates are not great, he’s walking guys again, he’s not special and you’re telling me that a team with two or three or four guys just like him will value his controlablility over the pile of 4.00 ERA guys they got?

          This is as good as he’s going to get, so as a sell-off piece he’s not relevant. At the deadline you sell better pieces now for maybe a worse present but the promise of a better future. A 31 year old who briefly got his slider working in his tenth organization is not a future you build on.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 month ago

          I never said he was anything special, not even remotely.

          Finally, the other obvious point is teams also do these deals for money. In trading Duran and Coulombe they exchange the prorated shares of $7M in salary for the prorated share of two earning MLB minimums. Adds up to a couple of million.

          But I’m done with this because you simply ignore everything I say.

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  17. highflyballintorightfield

    2 months ago

    There was a time when Wong was the 4th or 5th best Dodger prospect C behind at least Ruiz, Smith, and Cartaya. He’s made a good career.

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  18. mlbdodgerfan2015

    2 months ago

    Until Hope (A+ minors) and Ferris (AA) actually do something at the MLB level or are traded for someone who actually does something at the MLB level I’d hardly consider this trade as paid off. Busch has been raking at the MLB level. Prospects are exactly that until their potential is materialized. More often than not prospects should be traded for more known values.

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  19. cr4

    2 months ago

    They aren’t giving up Arias lol

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  20. retsubllab

    2 months ago

    I wouldn’t be Rushing to acquire Dalton, unless of course the Double Deuce needed protection.

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    • GASoxFan

      2 months ago

      You’re thinking of a far more impressive Dalton as well.

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  21. Dumpster Divin Theo

    2 months ago

    What’s the Hurry?

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  22. DonnieMoore

    2 months ago

    Since when are the Dodgers flush at the Catcher position?

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  23. solaris602

    2 months ago

    Dodgers need 2 things by the deadline:

    1) A closer
    2) Michael Conforto off the roster. This guy can’t even hold the bat boy’s jock, and it’s been that way all year long.

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      2 months ago

      Conforto has shown some definite signs of life over the last few weeks with a line in the last 14 days of .304/.333/.391/.725. He has hit the ball hard all season, but without the results, until recently.

      I’m more concerned about Mookie. He hasn’t looked at all like himself for months. Now he’s at home on personal leave.

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  24. ClevelandSteelEngines

    2 months ago

    Probably do this if I were the Sox. Rushing basically replaces Teel with a better catching prospect.

    Arias seems like a classic low power short stop with meh speed. Clarke feels like a thoroughbred with questions whether he’ll ever race.

    Rushing is at least ready to step up and fill the Sox’s biggest need. The Sox have enough depth with Tolle and Early etc to hold down their starting prospects.

    Unless there is something I’m missing about Rushing.

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  25. william-2

    2 months ago

    I hope this is just another time sino rumor article.

    I don’t see the upside for the Sox outside of simple depre addition at the minor league level, but I do see potential regrets. That alone is a red flag to begin any exchange of names.

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  26. christaylormvp

    1 month ago

    Kinda a done deal to this entire thread discussing Rushing’s talent levels. The Red Sox are already interested in him but what will it take to get him?

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  27. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    1 month ago

    “Meanwhile” must START the sentence. It cannot come in the middle, between commas. How do you mess this up twice in the same article?

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