Angels lefty Reid Detmers hit the 15-day injured list due to elbow inflammation 13 days ago but was transferred to the 60-day IL the following day, formally ending his season. There was some ominous uncertainty surrounding his status, as he underwent an MRI shortly after the IL placement but there was no update from the team. The southpaw himself gave some good news to the Angels beat yesterday, revealing that the MRI showed no structural damage (via Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register). Detmers is planning to have a normal offseason.
Perhaps more interestingly, the 26-year-old Detmers indicated that while he’ll pitch in whatever role the team envisions for him, his personal preference would be to return to the rotation after spending the 2025 season in the bullpen for the first time.
“All I’ve ever known is starting,” said Detmers when asked about his role. “I would like to start again. I think taking from what I learned this year about my mentality and stuff like that, I think I can transfer that over to starting and have a good year starting. But at the same time, it’s up to them. I’m willing to do whatever they want me to do, like I said at the beginning of the year. Anything that helps the team win.”
Detmers, the No. 10 pick in the 2020 draft, spent the 2022-24 seasons in the Halos’ rotation, generally pitching well in ’22-’23 before struggling mightily in ’24. During those first two full seasons as a starter, the Louisville product posted a combined 4.15 earned run average with a 24.5% strikeout rate, a 9% walk rate, a 36.4% ground-ball rate and an average of 1.04 homers per nine frames.
The 2024 season was a nightmare, however. Detmers made just 17 starts in the majors and was rocked for a 6.70 ERA. Though his strikeout rate actually improved (27.9%) and his walk rate held close to prior levels (9.7%), Detmers couldn’t escape the long ball. He averaged a whopping 1.85 homers per nine innings. After seeing just 10.3% of the fly-balls he allowed become home runs in 2022-23, that number exploded to 17.1% in 2024.
Detmers’ batted-ball metrics didn’t change much; his average exit velocity held at the same level as the previous season and his opponents’ hard-hit rate even dropped a couple percentage points. But when Detmers misfired in 2024, he often missed badly. A poor Angels defense didn’t do him any favors — he had a career-worst .357 average on balls in play last year — but Detmers’ primary flaw was being far too susceptible to maximum-damage contact on pitches that missed over the heart of the plate. His changeup, in particular, was hit hard. He struggled enough that the Halos even optioned him to Triple-A, but home runs were an even larger issue there (2.08 HR/9) as he pitched to a 5.54 ERA with the Angels’ Salt Lake affiliate.
A move to the ’pen in 2025 seemed to revitalize Detmers. The 6’2″ lefty has worked exclusively in relief this season and turned in a solid 3.96 ERA in 63 2/3 innings. Detmers’ average fastball unsurprisingly jumped when working in short relief, climbing from 93.8 mph in 2024 to 95.8 mph this year. His already strong 13% swinging-strike rate spiked to 14.6%, which helped fuel a career-best 30.1% strikeout rate. Most critically, the home run troubles that plagued Detmers in 2024 abated. He saw a roughly league-average 12.2% of his fly-balls leave the yard, but thanks to a big uptick in grounders (44.6%), that only translated to 0.85 homers per nine frames.
On the one hand, the move to relief producing nearly career-best results is a strong point in favor of keeping Detmers in the bullpen. On the other, he was an effective starter in 2022-23, and this year’s improved results could be attributable to more than just the role change. Detmers shelved his changeup, narrowing his repertoire to three pitches: four-seamer, slider, curveball. He threw the four-seamer at the same levels as in the past but leaned more heavily on that pair of breaking balls (and very occasionally tinkered with a two-seamer).
Opponents absolutely teed off on Detmers’ changeup in 2024, batting .351 and slugging .544 against the pitch. For the Angels, it’s probably hard not to wonder whether a return to the rotation with this altered plan of attack could bring about the best of both worlds. Detmers’ heater would surely drop a mile or two if he stretched back out, but perhaps ditching that changeup and working with a tighter arsenal could avoid some of last year’s alarming home run woes.
The Angels aren’t exactly deep in starting pitching. Yusei Kikuchi and Jose Soriano give them a solid starting point in the rotation, but veterans Tyler Anderson and Kyle Hendricks are free agents. Young arms like Jack Kochanowicz, Caden Dana, Mitch Farris and Sam Aldegheri have all gotten looks in the majors this year but haven’t cemented themselves in the rotation mix moving forward. In the case of Kochanowicz, the opposite may even be true; he was torched for a 6.81 ERA in 111 innings while working with one of the game’s lowest strikeout rates.
Presumably, the Angels will again be in the rotation market this winter, as they were last offseason when signing Kikuchi and Hendricks. If Halos brass thinks a shift back to the rotation for Detmers could pan out, however, that’d lessen some of the urgency and general need for starting pitching this winter. Of course, it’d also only enhance the need to bolster a bullpen that’ll see Kenley Jansen, Luis García, Andrew Chafin and Hunter Strickland become free agents at season’s end.

Detmers has the stuff. I am confident he will be one of those guys who lands back on his feet and we hear his name in a positive way up into his 30’s.
Same strategy, same results. We need a complete overhaul of the pitching staff. Detmers had one decent stretch a few years ago and the Angels will hang onto him like an STD. Until Moreno either has an revelation about the importance of pitching or he sells the team, we will not see better results.
What on earth are you talking about? Detmers was a BEAST most of this year. Its crazy with all the million of valid ways ways there are are to find flaw with my horrible organziation that people still find ways to fumble their critiques.
bkbk
A beast? Maybe he’s considered a beast on teams like the Angels, White Sox, or Marlins. But a well run contending team would not have his numbers and his inconsistency in their rotation. He’s a typical Angels pitcher. Here’s his BR page. Please point to what you consider to be beast-like:
baseball-reference.com/players/d/detmere01.shtml
Its ok, youre a casual trying to pass for a ball knower by googling stuff, Ive been there before.
So he started the season and got SHELLED era ballooned to 6 up until May 5th (where he had 5er and zero outs recorded) following that game he made an adjustment and since then hes pitched at close to a 2 era,
Any other specific questions?
Also his FIP is sub 2 since then, which is important because the Angels are the worst fielding team in the majors.
bkbk – Of course you know I’ve been here for years reading your blather so you know I’m not a “casual” (whatever that is). And when you need a quick reference, how do you get it besides Google? Please enlighten us to your alternate source of information.
You deflected from my question with a personal attack. I expect nothing less from you. I’ll request one more time: Please point to the specific area of his stat page that would qualify him for “beast” status. Pointing to his initially high ERA that he may have corrected a bit only proves his inconsistency. And as a reminder, he’s a reliever this year. They are talking about moving him back to the rotation where he has been awful historically except for the short period of success I referenced in my initial comment.
“Please point to the specific area of his stat page that would qualify him for “beast” status. ”
They did
“Also his FIP is sub 2 since then”
Also, remember their original comment
“Detmers was a BEAST *most of this year*.”
*Emphasis* mine
see above proboy
I would assume a “beast” would have a WHIP lower than 1.3.
“Hang onto him like an STD” is the funniest thing I’ve read this week. Thank you.
Also why is everyone from Louisville underwhelming? You have to go back to 2016 (Will Smith) for one that didn’t underperform
Angels are 13th overall in MLB attendance. Arte says “I’m good.”.
Interestingly, this will be the 4th season in a row that the Angels finsish 13th in MLB in attendance.
Thank goodness. All the best in your recovery!
Give him a chance to earn a rotation spot. He’s attacking hitters one pitch at a time now.
Sign Getz and let the two battle for the spot with the loser going to the bullpen.
He needs, at least, another pitch. He throws 4 Seamer, slider and curve. He ditched changeup for some reason.
Because the change up got hammered.
Kevin Gausman seems to be doing fine with basically only 2 pitches. He only throws his 3rd pitch for less than 10% of the time.
Detmers throws each of his 3 pitches for at least 20% of the time.
. If you playing, you winning. If you breathing, you winning. Even when I am loosing, at the same time I am winning
For Detmers to take the next level, he might need to be on another team.
Leave this guy in the bullpen. Eric Gagne would be a good career track.
He is garbage as a starter. He can go to the rotation get hammered and go back to the bullpen. Like so many starters all over the league.
He needs to realize that if he wants a solid major league career. His path is in the pen. He has closer stuff and I think it might be worth the chance. His season this year rebuilt his value on the market. As a reliever.
He has the talent. Now it’s finding the right formula to make it happen.
The Angels are not as bad as people think. They have a solid young core of young position players that are mostly home grown.
They are set at. Right field. Shortstop. Second base first base and catcher
All home grown other than O’Hoppe
The issue is simple
Our gm will go out. Rebuild the bullpen for the 5th straight season. He will sign starters that had great years before the pandemic and sign players who could hit the ball well 5 years ago.
The Angels will be garbage until they pony up and overpay to convince a free agent to come on board.
Also singing some guys who do not strike out would be a good start.
A wise baseball person told me this year. The difference between the angels and the playoff team is simple if they get runners at second and third with nobody out a playoff team gets those runs home the Angels don’t they go strike out pop-up strike out.
Counter-point: Reynaldo Lopez and Garrett Crochet moved from the bullpen to All Stars as starters in 2024. Seth Lugo made the same switch a year earlier and also made the 2024 All Star team.
But you’re right that the safe option is to stay in the bullpen. Some of the all time great closers failed as starters, like Trevor Hoffman and Mariano Rivera.
If Jansen leaves in FA, who’s likely to close in ‘26 for the Halos?
Joyce is back
Joyce should not be counted on to be the closer next year. We’ll need to see how he recovers from the surgery. I hope they can resign Jansen to another one year deal, then Joyce should be able to take over closer duties after 2026.
Agreed, but hes definelty going to pitch
Outside of going back to the Dodgers, I’m not sure how many other playoff teams would want to use him as a closer. It’s clear that Jansen still wants to close and he’d probably pick a team that gives him that chance. Hence why he signed with the Angels in the first place.
He signed with the Angels because he lives in SoCal. And has already made it public that he likes the team and would prefer to resign.
Kochanowicz should have never made the rotation over him. The fact that he got 23 starts while Detmers got 0 is mind boggling.
That’s what I said after spring training, but many here felt that Kochanowicz and Detmers was a wash.
Detmers back to the rotation is rather obvious.
I’d be curious to see if Brock Burke could be moved to the rotation, too. He started throughout his minor league days with the Rays and Rangers, and was only moved to the bullpen when he made the Rangers 2022 roster.
Moving those two into the rotation would take the pressure down a notch regarding FA pitching.
With Anderson and Hendricks off the books, there is $15M to sign a pitcher, and with Rendon off the books soon, another $36M. So the possibility of signing someone decent exists.
Unfortunately Rendon still has just under 80 million left on the books until 2027. I just don’t see any gm go on a five day bender and calling up the Angels to take that contract. That would take a lot of booze and crack
I would like to correct my statement. This will be the last year of Rendon. He has just under 39 million left and it is 50/50 he will be able to play. It would be worth the money to negotiate some type of buyout
What should I put here?…..oh wait
This team is not close. Despite having the highest collection of draft picks in the history of this team, the minor league system is terrible.
No one is coming to the rescue. Having a setup man is superfluous. ( i found my thesaurus).
This entire organization needs a complete overhaul. Where’s Chip Foose?
Have I mentioned Zach Neto is not a true MLB SS? I blame Reid Detmers for that.
Anthony Rendon is not a bad team mate, he is just misunderstood.
Mike Trout should be traded to the Phillies, because is makes sense.
There….my satire has been stated.
Just curious
What is Neto then?
Neto s a very good shortstop making routine plays as evidenced by his high DRS numbers. He ranked top 3 in the league in 2024.
However, his OAA numbers suggest he was below average on more challenging plays. His OAA numers in ’24 and ’25 were -5 and -7 respectively indicatig his shortcomings in range and reaction time.
With all that said, he is still a great player overall.
Ok. Neto is an above average shortstop and a slightly above average hitter. But he is something every team needs. A heart and soul guy. Or as my dad would have said. He is just a ball player
Yes, it was sarcasm.
I was poking fun at the people who repeat themselves with the same complaints over and over again.
It gets tiresome seeing the same people who claim they are Angel fans, constantly doing nothing but complain.
Look I get it, the Angels are a long way from being a World Series contender. It isn’t as if I am saying stop criticizing, because it is warranted. I just get irked at the same complaints being restated over and over, with no solution. being offered.
I agree with you about Rendon. If you are paying him you might as well squeeze anything you can and try to recoup every last cent possible.
AngelsFan1972: “It isn’t as if I am saying stop criticizing, because it is warranted. I just get irked at the same complaints being restated over and over, with no solution. being offered.”
Well, lots of people have offered a solution……new ownership that cares about the community and winning.
But I never begrudge anyone who just wants to talk about other things. I get it. Fans, me included, like to talk about all the other things. But, as this dumpster fire persists for well over a decade, it all just kind of seems like false hope and a distraction from the real issue to me.. That’s why I rarely post anymore. Those who want to keep talking about issues other that “Moreno is the problem”……..should. More power to you.
Sealbeach Comber (nice name!)
I get it, but, you can’t force him to sell. That is more or less my point.
I think what is getting lost in the criticism is the fact that they did make some very bad signings. They are paying the price dearly for that right now. But rather than continue to harm themselves by staying over the luxury tax, they are licking their wounds and trying to be competitive while being below the luxury tax. It takes a long time to recover from bad business decisions. Yes it is a dumpster fire, but it is not a raging inferno as many people seem to make it out to be.
I do like the young core of players they have right now. Put Trout back in CF until Rada is ready. Keep Neto at SS. Keep Schanuel at first. Moore seems to be getting belter every day. Adell looks like he has finally figured it out. O’Hoppe is capable of returning to form. I like Soriano a lot at the top of the rotation.
The most obvious need is pitching, I am hopeful they free some money and address that with some YOUNG arms. to add depth to what they have.
It’ll be hard to be a starter with only 3 pitches unless you have Kershaw stuff.
By the way, I thought the Angels were playing in the Postseason! What happened? We were only 2 games out of Wild Card at one time and with a genius GM running the show! Weird!
Time to move on from this guy there hold on to hope they don’t have the right coach to get these guy inline
Look for a contact on base speedster guy named Nelson Rada to lead off next year at some point.