The Mariners officially announced they’ve brought back Josh Naylor on a five-year deal. It’s a reported $92.5MM guarantee for the ISE Baseball client. Naylor will get a $6.5MM signing bonus upfront. He’ll make a $10MM salary in 2026, $16MM in ’27, $18MM in ’28, $20MM in ’29 and $22MM in 2030. The deal also includes a full no-trade clause and has no deferred money.
Naylor becomes the first headline name of the 2025-26 free agent class to land a new contract, just two weeks after the World Series concluded. It counts as a surprise to see any major free agent sign their next contract this quickly, even before the players who received qualifying offers have made their decisions. (Naylor was notably not eligible for a QO, since he was traded from the Diamondbacks to the Mariners during the season.)
MLB Trade Rumors ranked Naylor 12th on our list of the offseason’s top 50 free agents, and the five-year term matches our projection that Naylor would receive a five-year, $90MM deal. The five-year length of Naylor’s contract also matches the longest free agent deal the Mariners have given out during Jerry Dipoto’s decade in charge of Seattle’s baseball operations department. The M’s inked Robbie Ray to a five-year, $115MM pact during the 2021-22 offseason, and Ray’s contract and Yusei Kikuchi’s four-year, $56MM deal in January 2019 were the only free agent deals of the Dipoto era to exceed even two years.

With all of this in mind, there was such mutual interest between Naylor and the Mariners that it certainly seemed like the team was very willing to stretch beyond its usual free agent comfort zone. Dipoto was open in telling the media — including Darragh McDonald on the MLBTR Podcast back in September — that re-signing Naylor was a priority for the organization, and Naylor himself was just as effusive in how much he enjoyed playing in Seattle.
Considering how Naylor performed after arriving in the Pacific Northwest, it’s easy to see why both sides moved quickly on a long-term deal. Naylor was already enjoying a strong season with the Diamondbacks, but with Arizona falling out of contention, the D’Backs dealt the slugger a week before the trade deadline, landing rookie left-hander Brandyn Garcia and pitching prospect Ashton Izzi.
Naylor proceeded to hit .299/.341/.490 with nine homers and 19 stolen bases (without a single caught stealing) over 210 regular-season plate appearances for the M’s, and he followed that up with a .340/.392/.574 slash line over 51 postseason PA. Adding this type of pop into the lineup was perhaps the primary reason the Mariners won the AL West, and then outlasted the Tigers in the ALDS before falling just short of the first World Series berth in franchise history in losing the ALCS to the Blue Jays in seven games.
This kind of success made the Mariners want to more or less bring the band back together for 2026, which was no small feat since Naylor, Jorge Polanco, and Eugenio Suarez (among others) were all set for free agency. Re-signing Naylor is the first major domino to fall, and it now remains to be seen if either Polanco or Suarez can also be retained in the wake of the team’s sizeable commitment in Naylor. The M’s entered the offseason with approximately $34MM to spend, according to Dipoto’s statements after the playoff run was over, with more money potentially available at the deadline if more in-season reinforcements were required.
For now, the Mariners and their fans can at least enjoy the idea of Naylor suiting up at T-Mobile Park for the next five seasons. Naylor turns 29 in June, so his contract will run through his age-33 season. There has been some league-wide hesitancy in recent years about giving major contracts to first base-only players (especially as those players enter their 30s), yet Naylor’s production outside of just his stretch run with the Mariners makes him a solid choice for a five-year investment.
Naylor’s 128 wRC+ in 2025 was a career high, narrowly topping the 127 wRC+ he posted with the Guardians in 2023. Since emerging as a regular with Cleveland in 2022, Naylor has hit .275/.336/.464 with 88 home runs, translating to a 123 wRC+ and 9.9 fWAR over the last four seasons. His barrel and hard-hit ball rates are okay but uninspiring, and his walk rate from 2022-25 was below average, so Naylor doesn’t exactly fit the profile of a classic slugging first baseman.
His biggest offensive weapon is his ability to make contact, as Naylor is among the league’s more difficult players to strike out though he is prone to chasing pitches off the plate. There is also the amusing oddity of Naylor’s 30-for-32 record at stealing bases in 2025, which speaks to his skill as an opportunistic baserunner despite being one of the slowest players in baseball. Defensively, public metrics are mixed on his glovework. The Outs Above Average metric has him solidly above average with +12 OAA, while his -6 Defensive Runs Saved paints a less-flattering picture of his work at first base.
Naylor joins Cal Raleigh and Julio Rodriguez as Seattle players locked up through at least the 2029 season, and Rodriguez’s deal could actually extend through 2039 depending on a complicated set of options following the 2029 campaign. These three All-Star position players, veteran righty Luis Castillo, and a core of homegrown starters (George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, Bryan Woo, Bryce Miller) have become the building blocks of an AL West title team that looks to remain competitive for at least the rest of the decade.
Though many pundits — including three of us at MLBTR — predicted Naylor would re-sign the Mariners, the fact that he has found a new deal so suddenly creates an interesting ripple effect on the rest of the free agent class. Teams in need of lineup help have one less big bat to consider, and the first base market in particular has now lost a name many teams would’ve considered as perhaps a preferred alternative to Pete Alonso, Munetaka Murakami, or Kazuma Okamoto. Murakami or Okamoto could be deployed at third base and Cody Bellinger could be viewed as a first baseman or outfielder in equal measure, depending on a suitor’s needs.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan first reported the Mariners and Naylor were closing in on a five-year deal. Ari Alexander of 7 News Boston had the guarantee landing in the $90-100MM range. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic was first on the $92.5MM figure and the absence of deferred money. Robert Murray of FanSided first noted the $6.5MM bonus and the full no-trade clause. Andrew Destin of The Associated Press had the specific salary breakdown.
Inset photo courtesy of Stephen Brashear — Imagn Images

First of the “top 50” free agents to sign.
ang – And I’m already tied for last place :O(
Where did you have him going Fever?
@Fever, I just answered your Naylor question from the other thread!
Boom. I picked this one from 100 miles away.
You and me both
Might be the only one I get right.
1/50 down for my predictions!! Congrats to the M’s, their number one offseason goal is complete.
I am now tied with approximately 80,000 people for first
Might be the only one I got right.
Why ya got ATL taking?
I predicted Bassitt. Reliable innings-eater who can take the Charlie Morton role.
This probably means Atlanta will do the exact opposite and sign Giolito or something
@Run: I’ve got Kim, Devin Williams (bad pick lol), and Iglesias. I read comments about Williams not being liked by teammates. Made me think he’s not even under consideration by AA. Clubhouse chemistry’s a big deal to the Braves. I don’t think the Braves sign anyone w/a QO. Suspect they’ll acquire a mid level vet for the rotation via trade. Same w/a 4th outfielder.
Also had Kim and Iglesias being retained
Me too but like last year with Nick Martinez taking the QO, this one was almost automatic.
What if Gleybor declines this year!?
Do you know how to look up your predictions? This is one of the few guys I remember.
When I had completed all 50 and submitted I got a confirmation email from the google form with all my picks
Found the email, thank you.
Russ – There’s supposed to be a link somewhere to everyone’s prediction submissions, but it doesn’t appear to be up yet.
Everyone got this one right though so you are tied for last place
I don’t think “everyone got this one right.” The MLBTR writers weren’t unanimous on where Naylor ended up. Darragh picked the Reds. The other 3 picked the mariners.
Jeff – Yeah I am an idiot for doubting the M’s would spend on keeping him. Oh well, struck out in my first at bat.
The rest of your picks are probably gold Fever. Hang in there. I picked too many of them to be re-signed by their current team. Lack of creativity lol.
FPG
Not surprised the Mariners locked him up . Seems like an excellent contract for both sides. Getting it done so early tells me he really enjoyed his time there. As you know I was hoping the Sox would strike a deal with him. Being so early I wonder if he and his agent got into any other serious discussions with other teams.
Jeff – I didn’t put as much time into my picks as I’d like to, but either way I’ve never done particularly well on these contests.
Your methodology is a solid one, I think historically the majority of free agents (the good ones anyways) end up staying put.
Good luck to you!
I spent the whole day fishing. Got home 2 hours before the deadline. I pretty much knew what I was going to do, so just posted the picks and said oh well. Good luck to you too Fever.
FPG
I have a hard time envisioning the Sox putting together a deal that Alonso would be willing to take. Unless they lose Bregman. I would rather sign Bregman. 2 massive contracts ,I don’t see it happening. If they resign Bregman,I can see them signing Rhys Hoskins,he’s a righty who has shown some pop. Not ideal. What do you think???
cdc – I’m not a huge fan of Hoskins. If they can’t get a clear upgrade for 1B, I say let Casas play and evaluate at the deadline if he needs to be replaced. That’s assuming he’s healthy in ST.
There’s been a lot of chatter recently about the Sox trading for Skubal or Peralta, I’m sure at least some of it is marketing. Bowden is one of the guys saying Skubal to the Sox. Seems like everyone is in agreement it’s far more likely the Sox trade for a top pitcher rather than sign one.
FPG
At this point I would say anything is an upgrade at 1stbase. Breslow did say Casas was not to be the presumed starter.
Trading for either of those guys must come with a contract. Are the Sox going to give soon to be 29 year old Skubal $40 million for 8/9 years ? I have trouble believing that. I hope it happens !! Probably slightly less for Peralta. A rotation fronted by Crochet and Skubal/Peralta duo would be quite formidable, obviously. Not to mention how the upcoming labor issues will effect any deals.
cdc – I think questions surrounding his health are a big reason why he’s not being named the first baseman. Hey, they learned from their mistakes …. they aren’t lying to Casas, assuring him he’s the starting first baseman when he clearly may not be. I give credit where it’s due.
The Sox have the payroll space to pay Skubal, that is another advantage they have in trade talks. I say do it, especially if it keeps him away from the Yankees or Jays. Freddy would be a nice consolation prize.
FPG
Just read Bowdon saying Duran could be moved for a corner infielder. I think you’re going to have to include him in a deal involving a quality starter.
The Sox may have the space to pay a Skubal, but will they? Probably not going to pay him and another long-term contract,such as Alonso . Would you be willing to trade for Skubal without a deal/contract? Sign Alonso and just go all in for 2026?
cdc – i totally agree with you on Duran, especially if the team trading a pitcher intends to still compete next year (like Detroit & Milwaukee)..
Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but the Sox did supposedly offer Soto $600M. I think they realize to maximize profit they need to put a strong contender on the field, and acquiring Skubal would be the best way to accomplish that. Then if the Sox make the WS next year, they can go cheap again for another 6 years. LOL
Depends on how much the Sox give up, but if it’s a lot then an extension contingency is a must for Skubal.
Also keep in mind, they’ll probably have to pay only about 40% of the team salary in 2027 because of the lockout.
He’s a gamer
That was pretty quick. 5/120 maybe
Less
5/90 tops
My guess 5/115 with an opt out after the 2nd season
That would be a bad deal for the M’s tbh.
At 5yrs, I’d expect it to be no more than $100M with $90M being more likely. 1B that are not truly transcendent struggle to get big long term deals.
That’s what I’m thinking with a few incentives maybe. Can’t imagine him getting more that Dumper
I agree. 5/90
Whatever he signs for will set the tone for the offseason. We will know teams are raking in the cash if the Mariners plop down $120 million for Naylor. The guys on this site predicted 5/90 and if he beats that by $6 million per season that is a huge difference.
Looks like 90-100m. Figured he might have gotten a little more to sign this soon.
Wow finally some action!
Srsly
Excellent. He fit in perfect last season. How this guy gets 30 steals is beyond me.
That is amazing for a guy listed at 5’10” and 235 pounds, but he looks like he slimmed down a bit since his days in Cleveland.
He’s built more like a high school lineman than an MLB base running threat. He is a master of deception on the base pads! Great hustle and a real baller.
only 3 first basemen in history have ever had 20hr 30 sb .290 avg
bagwell, goldschmidt, josh naylor
he deserves every penny. im surprised it isnt 6 or 7 yrs
Not sure which one is more surprising: Bagwell or Naylor
Bagwell actually had TWO 40+HR/30+SB years
Bagwell was a beast assuming he didn’t take roids then he is a slam dunk hall of famer
But I’m 99% sure he had a boost looking at his rookie photos to his final years
He was huge
I’m confused by this comment. He’s already in the hall of fame. He was voted in 8 years ago with 86% of the vote.
No I was saying he is an all time great 1st baseman but he wouldn’t have gotten in the hall if he got busted for peds
why would Bagwell be surprising? He had 200+ steals.
He did have 200+ steals, but did anyone ever THINK of him as a base stealer? I watched him play basically his whole career and I never thought of him as a base stealer. He was sneaky good on the bases, kind of like Goldschmidt. You don’t think about them and then in September you look and they have swiped 25 bags. And you STILL don’t think of them as base stealing threats.
bagwell did steal 202 bases in his career, including 30 in a season twice.
josh naylor had 25 CAREER sb’s in 6 years entering 2025. and he stole 30 this season. he hit 11 less hr than 2024, but batted .295 compared to .243 so maybe he was tryna make up for the power with his legs. he’s also rly good at reading pitchers. 30 might be an anomaly for a fella his size. maybe he steals 20ish next yr?
Soto had 57 career steals before putting up 38 this year. It’s bold at bbref. No way Soto led the NL? Right?
Soto led the NL in swipes, yes. Tied with Oneil Cruz at 38, Elly had 37.
6-7 years lol. Wait so Goldschmidt got 30 stolen bases in a year? Or his entire career.
Goldschmidt had 32 stolen bases in 2016.
I’m actually quite surprised “chandlerbing” got that right, funny enough.
Stein – Maybe Ross Geller gave the info to Chandler?
We know it wasn’t Joey.
I would think Joey would have more sports trivia knowledge than Ross.
Hiflew – The words “Joey” and “knowledge” simply don’t go together.
Neither do the words “sports” and “Ross.” Did you see the rugby episode?
hiflew – Very vaguely remember that episode … is that when he went to England to get married and played with his bride’s family?
Yeah I can’t remember if it was in England or not, but it was her family and friends..
Oh behalf of all Mariners fans
*clears throat*
YES!!!!!
WE SPENT MONEY
I’m glad Stanton didn’t decide to buy another yacht with the playoff money
They stepped up for Rodriguez extension and Raleigh. They seem to be identifying the right everyday players to keep in the fold long-term. SP’s are a different deal long-term for anyone…with so many injuries/dead money fast most aren’t going to outspend outside of the large market heavyweights.
It made too much sense for all parties to not happen.
Awesome news! I hope the Mariners can make another big move or two this off-season.
IT’S HAPPENING!
Nice to see them get Naylor signed right away. He was great for them down the stretch. They had nobody to replace his production in the minors.
1 fo one in da contest.
Damn, I really wanted the Orioles to chase him. Congrats to the Ms though. Good things happening in Seattle.
No way, too many lefties in the lineup. They need a legitimate RH power bat and that Alonso. That bat in the lineup just makes too much sense.
I’d much rather just go with Mayo at 1B than give a 31 year old Pete Alonso $100+ million to clog up the basepaths and play some of the worst defense in the entire league for us for the next half decade.
If we’re going to hand out a big money free agent contract for a position player, Cody Bellinger is the obvious choice since he can play CF, an actual position of need for us.
CF is not a need after this season. You don’t want to block Bradfield Jr and you definitely don’t want to add another LH bat to the lineup. Alonso doesn’t have to play 1B regularly, can be a more traditional DH and the real area of need is the legitimate RH power bat to balance the lineup and produce runs. Mayo needs more abs to really figure things out, I’ll concede that, but we need to be in win now mode and Beavers and Basallo are the younger guys I’d prefer to keep over Mayo, you need veteran players mixed in with young guys just starting out and Alonso checks that box too.
It’ll be interesting to see how this offseason goes either way. They have plenty of room to add 50+ million to the payroll, so a couple big acquisitions is more than reasonable and could be done comfortably.
Bellinger mashes LHPs despite being a LHB so it doesn’t really matter which side he hits from, and while Bradfield’s speed and defense are definitely exciting, his bat is still an enormous question mark at this point. He may never be much more than Billy Hamilton and even that isn’t a guarantee. If he does earn his spot in the lineup, Bellinger could simply shift to one of the corners (or 1B if Mayo doesn’t stake a claim to the position).
As far as Alonso DHing most of the time goes, his most recent comments suggest that he isn’t interested in signing somewhere to be a full time DH, and we already have Basallo lined up to take most of those ABs, with guys like Adley, Westburg, and O’Neill likely to get some starts there to keep them fresh as well.
Alonso just isn’t a good fit for our current roster and he’s not really a guy a team like the Orioles should be committing huge money to for 5 or more years anyway. He has “Trumbo extension” written all over him.
The O’s shouldn’t be worried about blocking Bradfield anyway. There’s no guarantee he’s anything more than a 4th outfielder. He’s another lefty so kind of defeats your point about Belli. CF is the biggest need to me.
I’d honestly like Buxton. Risky move that could blow up on us but he’s the perfect piece if he can stay healthy.
But definitely agree w/ you Floch. If you’re signing Alonso than Mayo should be dealt for pitching. There’s no way for those 2 coexist with Basallo and O’Neill around. AR is going to take DH abs too. Alonso doesn’t solve the fact that we don’t have a CF who can hit lefties at all. Cowser is the biggest issue I see.
Yeah, CF is the clearest area of need on the position player side of things right now.
Our current options are Cowser, who can’t hit lefties, and Taveras, who can’t hit anyone.
I didn’t hear that, in fact I heard the opposite – that he would be open to DH with a winning team.
Not sure if you subscribe to said the emails or newsletters, but Elias was asked about the 1B situation, with Mountcastle, Mayo and Basallo all in the mix for 1B reps, and his response sounded very much like targeting a 1B/DH type is something that they have/are considering:
From Orioles beat email:
Can first basemen Ryan Mountcastle and Coby Mayo — along with Basallo — coexist on the same roster?
Elias’ answer: “Well, I think right now, it can work right now. We’ve got DH reps. Basallo is going to catch. And you need more than one first baseman, so that fits. But if and when we make acquisitions this winter that start to command or occupy more DH reps — if not first base itself — we’re going to have to figure out ways to make room for that. That hasn’t happened yet, but it’s something that we’ve got to be mindful of if we’re going to import players that are going to require a lot of reps at first base or DH.”
I really think they will make a push for Alonso because he is the legitimate power threat from the right side that is needed to balance the lineup and, as O’Neill has shown with his injury history, you cannot count on him being that guy, especially not for a full season.
The Orioles are operating as if Bradfield Jr is the CF of the future, potentially starting as soon as late in “26 but definitely by ‘27. They are not going to sign anyone that would block him or that would have to be moved and subsequently block someone else. If they sign someone who has to move to a corner upon Bradfield call up, that person then cuts into Beavers and Cowser playing time, most importantly, and to a lesser extent O’Neill. They are sold on Bradfields speed and defensive ability and I think they already understand the offensive concessions they will have to make to get him to Camden Yards. If they brought someone in as a free agent, it would likely be on a one year or a minor league deal – neither of which Bellinger is doing, so he’s almost certainly going elsewhere.
They are probably trying hard to trade Mountcastle before Friday, at which point they will have to decide whether to non tender him, which is a very possible outcome.
If they can find a way to keep Mayo plugged in after a major acquisition (Alonso or similar), they will but even though his value is lower than it was in the past, he could still be used alone to bring back a bullpen piece or packaged with other talent to bring back a controllable front end of the rotation capable pitcher.
Either way they go, the timing is right to finally make the strike (s) to the major free agent acquisition and to go further and really get the parts needed to make it a legitimate contender and make a deep postseason run in ‘26 and forward.
I have seen those comments and they sound like the usual noncommittal Elias fluff to me rather than some emphatic statement of intent. “We could do this or we could do that, or maybe we’ll do something else.” Basically not worth drawing any sort of conclusions about.
As for the logjam adding Bellinger would allegedly create, Cowser hasn’t actually proven he can be an everyday player yet, Beavers is a rookie who hasn’t yet cemented himself as a core player, Bradfield hasn’t even proven he can hit AAA pitching, and O’Neill is a free agent after 2027, so there isn’t really any logjam at all, whereas signing Alonso would actually create a long term logjam at 1B (and on the basepaths), where both Mayo and Basallo are expected to feature prominently in the coming years and where Alonso shouldn’t be playing at all since he’s a pure DH who hasn’t accepted reality yet and still thinks he’s a 1B.
Good for the Ms. Canadian!!! Hopefully the first ball to drop and more action from around the league. Go Jays!!!
Good for the Mariners, keeping their guy. Wonder is Suarez is next?
I hope not, I’d rather have Polanco back any day..
I love Geno. But, I don’t see the M’s signing him.
Smart signing. He just seemed to click in Seattle.
That’s a lot of years for the mariners to commit. I bet it’s a complicated contract with incentives/ escalators for good play. Probably games played as well
Bet it’s a straight contract. Those types of deals come later in the off season
He’s 28
This definitely happened faster than I had expected, and that’s definitely a good thing. One of my fears was a dragged out bidding process in which Seattle would lose out on all of the big free agent first basemen.
Now, about DH and the bullpen..
I think that this shows Naylor’s willingness to return to the Mariners.
It also shows a good strategy by Seattle. By making what is presumably a strong offer, they forced other teams to step up and get uncomfortable early. That may have scared away a few teams.
Yes, I’d say signing a contract to return to the Mariners is a very clear demonstration of his willingness to return to the Mariners.
I got one right. Holy cow.
It’s one you feel good about getting right too. Glad the Mariners made it happen. Naylor is my favorite of the 1B options this year
We all knew it was happening, but damn this is very good news. He’s become beloved in Seattle and it’s so good to see them actually acting for once.
Yessss!!!!
Nice! They needed him to sign ASAP to enable the rest of their off season plans to be carried out. If he waited they would watch a lot of opportunities go off the market. With him on board they can focus on 3B. and other needs.
Good for them. Was hoping he’d get resigned
This is good to see. He fit in extremely well in Seattle, and clearly enjoyed his time there. It’ll be interesting to see the terms of his deal, to see if he took a bit of a discount to stay in Seattle.
The STOVE is finally heating up!
Congrats, M’s Enjoyers!
I would not have predicted Naylor to get a big contract a couple years ago.
YESSS!!! I think the Mariners mean business this off-season!
Congrats to the M’s. They did what needed to be done.
Yea!!
Agent’s not Boras. Done.
One less spot for the Polar Bear!
I don’t think they were ever likely to sign Alonso. I actually think this helps Alonso a lot. Getting his biggest competition out of the way this early in the offseason makes him the only real option in a free agency for teams that need an impact first baseman.
Alonso isn’t marketing himself as a 1B exclusively. His market is going to be much bigger because they are also marketing him as a DH. Alonso is gonna get his. Just a matter of where.
First Baseman don’t expand their markets by also agreeing to DH much. That is pretty much the definition of their role unless they are good fielders, at which point DH is a waste.
LOL…I mean you expand your market by being flexible, or playing more than 1 position. That is what Alonso is doing. He’s bringing more teams to the table by agreeing to DH, thereby expanding his market. It’s a pretty basic market principle that more interested parties in a particular commodity will bring about a higher financial yield. Alonso isn’t a terrible 1B. He saves his fellow infielders many errors. He just doesn’t have the range of other 1B’s, and leaves something to be desired throwing to other bases. But he is marketing himself to teams looking for a 1B, and teams looking for a power hitting DH. More teams to the table will bring about a bigger contract for Pete.
si.com/mlb/mets/onsi/news/pete-alonso-s-apparent-c…
Here’s another article about this very principle, and situation.
I heard he’s marketing himself as a shortstop. Not sure that will increase his FA value, either.
Well, it will if there is a team in need of a short stop who is willing to pay him to play the position, and Pete was willing to try. It’s just too bad we don’t understand markets, supply, and demand.
If he told teams he was exclusively a 1B he would definitely be limiting his market. My point is DH doesn’t expand his market much. Off the top of my head the Phillies would be the only team to consider signing him as a pure DH. What other teams?
The Braves, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, and Marlins are all looking for a DH. I don’t think the Braves have the money to spend on a player like Alonso. And I think it’s against the Marlins religion to sign a player like Alonso. But there are 4 teams that could drive up the price. And Toronto is also a possibility. That is aside from those looking for a 1B.
Good point I do agree Philly, Boston for sure. Maybe Yanks or Orioles. The off-season is always the most interesting time of year!
I love this time of year too
Yeah buddy!!!!!
YES!! I’m ECSTATIC!
That sucks I was hoping that my Mets would sign him if not for 1b than DH.
I guessed the Jays in the FA contest, but I’m glad Naylor is staying in Seattle. Mariners need his bat…
Pretty sure the Jays already have a first baseman for the foreseeable future.
I just love that this absolute unit of a man can swipe 30 bags. Only got caught twice which is just as wild. The man is some sort of Twilight Zone player.
My uncle owns a buffet in Seattle and he was worried he wouldn’t make ends meet if Naylor signed anywhere else.
That deserves a thumbs up just for the buffet comment. 😂
Sometimes smart base runners can steal a few even without wheels. But 30? That’s crazy. Not sure if that is smarts, pitchers too focused on the radar gun to hold runners on or a sign of how bad the catchers are today.
I’ve been holding onto that one!
@This One The reason he stole 30 was not because any of the reasons you stated. Naylor has got the wheels. lol
Now Naylor could afford to buy any buffet not named Warren
And Jimmy, who became a billionaire before death
Alright Toronto, no excuses. Follow their example and get Bo signed. If the Mariners can pony up to bring their star players back, you’ve got no excuse not to do the same.
Also congratulations Mariner fans! I love this for you guys!
Bo is not going to take less than market value like Naylor did
The Jays don’t need him to. They can easily afford to pay him market value.
Good move for the M’s!
Two biggest winners here are Mariner fans and Pete Alonso. Having his biggest competition out of the way this early in the off-season is going to help him a lot. Especially since he was the only first baseman out there that arguably fit the Mets roster better than Alonso.
The Mariners were never likely to sign Alonso, so he’s not really losing a suitor either.
Mariners are in great shape for the future, top farm system, great pitching, and a contending team
Now sign Kazuma Okamoto. We need a right handed contact hitter with some pop. He plays 3B, 1B and OF.
I would be going all in on Okamoto too.
Yep! Signing them both and early would send a message to the league and players that the M’s are in it to win it and the checkbook is open.
Very welcome news… Especially on a day Sam Darnold throws 4 INT’s at that!
We have seen that Sam Darnold act in Carolina, unfortunately.
Everyone’s a winner. Nice.
Looks a good signing covering his age 29-33 years.
Is he gonna get paid as a DH or a bad defensive first baseman? Or are these the same thing?
I’m an Orioles fan so I didn’t see Naylor play much this year (except for the playoffs, during which he looked okay to my eye), but Statcast has him as roughly average defensively at 1B in 2025, down from a bit above average in 2023 and 2024.
Defensive metrics are hit or miss. I tend not to like baseball savant’s metrics. Others like fangraphs have him below avg pretty much his entire career. Lately he’s been DHing about 15% of the time. I see that increasing as he gets older.
He isn’t that old and in 5 years he won’t be that old either.
2 of the metrics that Fangraphs uses are from StatCast, OAA which measures range and FRV which is the overall fielding run value. The other two are DRS or Defensive Runs Saved by Baseball Info Solutions and UZR or Ultimate Zone Rating. DRS is the most comprehensive of the defensive metrics. FRV is the most accurate on what happens to the ball in play, but is not very good at tracking what happens after that, and UZR is pretty much terrible because it is zone based and players are often out of their zone, even from the beginning of the play.
DRS has him at -1 for 2025 and +1 in OAA.
Seems passable enough to me.
He improved on defense as soon as the Mariners traded for him.
His defense passed the eye test in Seattle. He looked pretty darned good at the position.
I think his range is limited, but he’s a very good scooper and represented a large defensive improvement over previous Mariner’s first basemen since at least Ty France.
Congratulations Seattle fans
Good move for both of them
Naylor was the player that stuck out most during the playoffs for the Mariners.
What am I missing here? Julio and Arozarena struck out 19 times each during the 2025 playoffs followed by Suarez and Raleigh. Naylor only struck out 6 times.
I think he was saying stuck out, as in was most noticeable, not struck out. At least that is the way I read it.
That’s what I was missing! Thank you
MLBTR commenters 🤝 borderline illiteracy
CMurphy – STUCK out, not struck out.
Haha I made the same mistake. Damn auto correcting brain.
For what it’s worth, Naylor struck out the least of any Mariners regular during the 2025 playoffs.
That’s exactly the kind of hitter they’ve been looking for. High contact, low strikeouts.
It’s a weird word to use. Personally, would have gone with “stood out” so there’s no confusion, but unfortunately there is no edit feature.
It’s amazing how the letter “r” changes the whole meaning of that sentence.
Lol
Snuck out where?
There’s a fine line between clever and stupid.
There also a thin line between love and hate, apparently.
Didnt know those other others guys got so many playoff punchouts.
He shuck out corn??? I’m so confused.
This was a really good deal for Naylor. Mariners got a steal!
I’m glad to see a player getting rewarded for playing well when it counts.
I meant good deal for the Mariners. Naylor left money on the table just to be happy!
There it is!!! Great start to the offseason Jerry and Justin!
He’s a great player right now, but I’d be worried about how quickly he will decline with age as he moves into his 30s given his body type and the amount of value speed plays in his game.
Speed plays zero value in his game. He is about as slow as they come. Savvy as heck though.
If that shoulder isn’t chronic, this is good work for the M’s.
DiPoto said that Naylor was a priority. He wasn’t kidding.
Maybe it’s the new rules, I don’t know, but a first baseman that goes 19 for 19 in the stolen base department blows my mind.
Well that’s two wrong for me, I was guessing they would sign Pete …
I don’t think Pete’s agent would allow that. Boras right?
Not sure but that sounds right, I was also a little hopeful the reds would go after Naylor so this is a lose lose for me lol.
Baseball Reference page for any given player you wish to look up will show you who their agent is in the bio as handy info.
I got this one right, one of the few i did not have coming to the Jays, i think i should hit on 2 maybe 3 more (Jays will be signing at least 3, a High Leverage RP, Big Bat, and Starter)!!!! LOL
Mariner
A less than smart deal.
The M’s are paying for a career year from a 1Bman who couldn’t average 2 bWAR per season from 2022-2024. They’re even biting on two fluke BABIP years from probably the slowest non-catcher in the game.
At least he’s L-L and only turning 29. Still, c. 5/$95m?
Larry Bird faced similar criticism. Slow, can’t jump, not athletic etc. Sometimes court/field IQ mean more than body type. Tough to argue with results.
But….but…he WAS arguing results. You’re arguing recency, in a year where Josh was doing all he could to have his best year heading into free agency. Would he have gotten this deal had he played down the stretch and into the playoffs like he did for Cleveland in 2024? He was bad, bad, bad, and Cleveland decided to deal him for much needed starting pitching help. Don’t get me wrong, Cleveland missed the offense that Josh provided to Arizona and Seattle this year, Apart from the stolen bases, his performance was quite familiar.
But there remain legitimate questions about Josh’s ability to stay in shape long-term, and those questions are only amplified now that he got the bag. That’s the question, if 2025 is the start of a newfound zeal to be in the best shape he can be, this deal will likely be a winner for the Mariners. If, however, he wears down over the course of the year like he did in 2024, this contract won’t age particularly well. I’d call it a modest risk on a high floor, low ceiling kind of player overall, with his defensive performance and ability to maintain his base-running skills tipping it in one direction or the other.
JackStrawb- your comment is comical and has no bearing in reality. You’re argument is based on stats from his first two years breaking into MLB, his recent success is total fluke, pure chance and that he is a fat and slow 1B. Hahaha thats funny.
The first 2 years in MLB are the most challenging years for any young MLB player and in many ways they ‘make or break’ a young players career. This comment also ignores the fact that ball players improve as they gain experience then they go on to reach their peak as a professional. Naylor is just getting to his peak. Btw I have news for you: 1B are generally not fast players, they are not fleet of foot. This fact makes Naylor’s 19 for 19 SB in Seattle that more impressive.
Your comment is not based in this real world. You sound like a fan of one of the teams that traded him. Your comment is utterly delusional. In your world the Seattle FO executives who longed to sign Naylor are buffoons and you’re a Baseball Savant. Haha yea right
And frankly, you sound defensive. And someone unwilling to face the risks associated with this deal. Remember, there is no longer any risk to the player, he got paid. ALL the risk is on the team now. That’s just a fact. And the team is dependent on Naylor wanting to be the best player he can be from here on out. There’s no question that Josh Naylor is one of the smartest, most competitive players out there, and betting on him is probably smart. But it’s still a bet, whether you like it or not. There is nothing in Josh Naylor’s past that guarantees future performance at levels that justify this outlay. Just faith in recent results. And that faith may be well-placed. We shall see.
Wow Mr Obvious isn’t that the case for signing any free agent??
Not defensive, just joyous…. Why? You captured my optimism with your own words-
“There’s no question that Josh Naylor is one of the smartest, most competitive players out there, and betting on him is probably smart”
Couldn’t agree more
It may be a “smart bet” relatively speaking versus, say, signing a Peter Alonso or Ryan O’Hearn, but it’s still an expensive bet. And free agents are a lousy bet overall, so being “joyous” is an odd reaction. Check back in a couple of years. Most of these guys are never worth what they’re paid. But I’m sure the Mariners can afford to be wrong.
Nearly every recent free agent signing (granted very few were actually elite hitters,) except for 2 -Robinson Cano (129 OPS+ in Seattle) and Nelson Cruz have excelled in T-Mobile Park. Each recent signing and/or trade has struggled to hit in our Pitchers Park. Much was made about Seattle being the hardest hitters park in MLB. You know who else has excelled in T-Mobile? Who has publicly stated how much he loves hitting in T-Monbile? Your man,
Josh Naylor.
Good LH hitters thrive in SEA. Naylor is a good LH hitter
When $12M a year on the FA market buys you the likes of Mitch Garver …..this Naylor contract is awfully fair. When 99 % of the 300 odd comments on here are people who either love this signing or wish their team signed Naylor. Your take and the 2-3 other commenters (out of 250+) who question the wisdom of this signing really says a lot.
Good for player and team signing.
My oh My!!!
Nice fit for both sides. Mariners fans should be happy tonight.
He is a beast. Lucky Seattle.
Well done Seattle
Great move getting a deal done. He’s a smart player. Its not just the power numbers. He makes contact and advances runners. He just does all the little things to win games. Perfect example was a game late in the year when he was at first and he jumped in the air and deliberately got hot by the throw of a shortstop to first to try and break up a double play.
This is bad news for the Mets, or at least more expensive news. Naylor is 2.5 years younger than Alonso and more well rounded but Alonso premier power is worth dollars. Alonso stated he wanted 7 years which we all know won’t happen but it then made the question will he get a guaranteed 5th year? Will some team be uber aggressive and include a 6th year whether it’s guaranteed at a lower rate or an option of some kind? I think Naylor getting 5 years guarantees Alonso to get 5 guaranteed with the chance of a 6th year in some form more likely than it was 24 hours ago. 5yr-$140M with a 6th year option in any form other then a player option is my prediction.
At that price, Alonso will not be back in Queens. I can’t see the Mets doing 5/$140 million. I can’t see anyone doing that.
I think Alonso’s max contract is $100-110MM.
Well then, that’s a surprise. I had him going to the Red Sox. Nice work, though, M’s!
0/1 for me.
This seems like a good deal for both sides. Naylor really flourished with the Mariners and he rounded out the lineup nicely. They are the new team to beat in the AL West.
Hell f$@%ing yes!
Looks like Naylor parlayed a “career year” (3.1 bWAR) into a hundred million bucks. My guess is that he slips back to his usual two-WAR self over the length of the contract. But he’s a popular guy in Seattle so maybe the Mariners think he’s good for ticket sales.
He altered his plate approach in ’25 for more contact over power which is evident in his metrics. His bat speed decreased and squared-up rate spiked. Also had a career low in K%. Naylor’s ’25 production is repeatable.
Casey- so we’re assuming MLB players immediately produce career average numbers in the first couple years in the big leagues? Nonsense. Your argument implies ballplayers do not improve as they gain experience and make adjustments along the way. Naylor was a 1st rd pick for a reason- he’s a baller with a high baseball IQ
LOL The Three Haters: JackStrawb, Avory, and CaseyAbell. The three of the them against the world!!! It’s really really hard to root against Josh Naylor but these three guys pulled it off!
Love it. Love it. Love it. Had to have him. So great that the M’s opened up their check book. He is a great fit. If he is getting $18 million a year or so can you look at it that the M’s have another $20 million or so to spend this year? Sign Polanco? Trade for B. Donovan and JoJo Romero of the Cardinals? Or B. Lowe and RP Cleavenger of the Rays? Still need a 2B or 3B, a DH and two relievers but this is a great start! YAY!
But tell us, do you love it? Haha
Nice! This is a big one for the Mariners. I got one right in the contest lol
Happy days are here again!
but what bar is he?
Naylor has a bad body and a weight problem that will rapidly get worse. He’ll be out of mlb within 3 years (probably play in Japan or Korea) and this contract will be an albatross for Seattle for a decade. Book it.
Shut up fatty. Don’t put your body problems on Josh.
Hard to be an albatross contract for a decade when signed for 5 years.
Math is hard.
For a whole decade? Interesting to see how that will work..
Nayled it!
Despite T-Mobile’s rep, he hit really well at home, and said he really likes hitting here. Those guys are thin on the ground, and it’s great that the org stepped up and offered enough to get a deal done early. Really says something good about the org, something they haven’t showen much in years past.
Great first step. Do they next bring back Polanco or for the same money but a load of prospects (say Ford, Young, Hancock and perhaps Sloan) reunite with Ketel Marte?
Hard No on Ketel Marte and his big contract. Polanco might be possible. I really expect they roll with Cole Young and Colt Emerson in the middle infield.
Marte is due $90 million over the next 5 years. That is a bargain for someone of his ability with a proven track record. That’s not much more per year than Polanco will get and can you really trust second base to an unproven rookie if you have serious World Series aspirations?
2B might be one of the least consequential positions for who wins the WS. Decent glove hitting at bottom of order is fine. Don’t need a great pricey bat at every spot, especially since pitchers are getting paid big bucks for payroll allocations moving forward if they need to take on expensive SP/BP arms in season for playoff push.
I think Marte is locked up too long when considering his age. I would consider CJ Abrams being 4-5 years younger.
We do need more average and I still think polo wants to come back. He’s so good .. When he plays
This is huge for Seattle as our lineup is littered with high K rates… If Robles can’t return to Leadoff maybe Naylor 2 Hole before Cal but I’d really love to see him 4Hole behind Cal and Julio 2nd behind Robles… Lets get together with somebody and find an additional Left Power Arm for the Bullpen… after all the attendance and Playoff run Ownership getting cheap… shed almost 35M in Payroll in Garver, Haniger, Solano and Co… Go M’s
Oh and Please find a way to resign Polo for 1year deal with an Option… leave 3rd base for Ben Williamson and hit him 7th or 8th we can always grab a BAT at the Deadline if he Falters
Polanco will definitely be getting more than a 1 year deal
Nothing better than actual hit stove action versus the Boras BS dragged out til March
Oh, nice! I got one pick right so far.
1/1
It’ll be a bust of a contract
You’re a bust of a contract
Its good for baseball for medium size market teams like the Mariners to re-sign their free agent player. I hope we see more of that this off season.
One of the few times in recent years when a player got traded in a walk year then resigned with the team who acquired him. Had Naylor not had the experience of playing in Seattle, and had the Mariners not seen on a daily basis what he can do on the field and in the clubhouse, they may have never even considered each other this offseason. It’s a great match and Mariners fans absolutely fell in love with Naylor, so it’s a great baseball move that even casual fans can get excited about.
Based on the coverage and constant trade rumors, I suspect Naylor’s felt really undervalued during his entire time in the majors. He’s probably happy to stay at a place where he feels wanted
@yeasties
This, of course, is rubbish. Cleveland made a concerted effort to acquire him at a time he was struggling to adjust his game to the major leagues, treated him extremely well through an extraordinarily bad injury, adjusted to his limitations following his lengthy rehabilitation, was patient during his comeback and subsequent struggles, maintained faith in his game and gave him time to learn to hit left-handed pitching at the major league level, gave him the chance to play with his brother for several years, and did nothing to quash his natural enthusiasm for the game even though there were times it may have been counterproductive.
There were never any rumors that Cleveland was shopping him prior to his free agent year. Following his disappointing 2nd half in 2024 and his abysmal performance in the postseason, and the emergence of Kyle Manzardo, along with the team’s desperate need to shore up its starting rotation, Cleveland dealt Josh for a pitcher who entered its rotation and is controllable for five more years, plus a competitive balance pick which (ironically) netted CLE the top Canadian prep arm in the 2025 draft. I fully expect Josh to advise his young countryman that he was picked by a fine and supportive organization.
There were no “constant” trade rumors, there was no “undervaluing” Naylor during his long tenure in Cleveland. We gave Josh the chance to become an everyday major leaguer, and played a significant role in his development. He was never “not wanted,” it was simply a matter of dollars and sense, as well as need. I congratulate Seattle for keeping him long term, which Cleveland really could not prudently risk. Seattle is a wonderful city, a great place to live, and the ballpark is beautiful, it is no wonder Josh leapt at the opportunity to do something special there. Good luck to him and Seattle, but please, cast no unfounded aspersions our way.
Pianolegs- that is an astute observation and fascinating, entirely original comment. Bravo
He better start taking Roids , like me
The rare deal that is very fair to the player’s true value and shows a mid-market club is serious about competing and didn’t lose a high profile free agent to one of the deeper pocketed clubs.
Great deal for the club, the player and the sport in general.
a steal of a deal for the Mariners, and it shows that Naylor wants to stay with them- and why wouldn’t he? The M’s are primed for greater things right now.
wonderful for everyone involved!
Happy for Seattle and Naylor, and disappointed because I wanted the Mets to sign him.
As for Ford, I wonder if he could platoon in RF. He has the speed and arm.
I know he didn’t do well in 2024 in a very brief sample in LF, but it can’t hurt to give him some reps out there in ST.
Harry Ford I presume? Not Mike 😉 Why take a Catcher away from Catching? Mitch Garver is no longer with the Org. There is no way Cal can keep up his ridiculous run at starting so many games behind Home Plate. So Harry Ford is obviously the other Catcher making up the sums in the equation.
You prob knew Dan Wilson tutored Harry Ford (and all the other young C’s coming thru the Org) for at least 1-2 years. He was a special instructor in the Minors before his appt as Skipper in late 2024. If anyone knows whether HF is ready to share Cal’s role its the Skipper! Now….can Ford split Catching duties with Corner OF roles? I that depends more on the success (or lack of) by Robles, Canzone and Randy
I’m not suggesting taking Harry Ford away from catching.
I am saying to use him as the backup catcher as planned and add in time in RF to increase his ABs and give him more opportunities to play.
They wouldn’t likely risk losing their backup catcher to injury playing another position and he isn’t MLB-ready for any other position anyway.
Seattle pushed their luck a little with Cal and Garver DHing. They wouldn’t likely have their backup in the field without having a third option.
Dan Wilson came to spring training for a week every spring training to work w/ the catchers before being made the team’s manager. Not a full-time job or even a part-time job! One week per season.
He could go to 1st, right. It’ll take time.
Didn’t realize all three Naylors were first round picks, That has to be a record.
The A’s picking their Naylor first remains a head-scratcher.
The Astros for sure wouldn’t get him, so I’m not to sad the Astros didn’t get him, but for Seattle to get him has to hurt the ‘Stros chance of the West.
Seattle is one of the only teams that spend and are revenue sharing recipients. (cough cough) Rays, Marlins, A’s.
Good to see he took less to stay with a place he obviously feels comfortable.
Great to hear and must have liked playing for the Mariners! Not a bad deal for either side.
Probably every other team that would theoretically be interested knew this was the most likely outcome.
About the M’s payroll limitations., Dipoto said “I would say similar to where we ended the year, as a starting point,” The unknown is what he means by “starting point”. I interpret it to mean the budget is currently under discussion but that it won’t be less than last year. Right at the end of the season I would not expect the organization to know exactly how much they will spend in the coming year. This is how budgets are usually done. You start with last years expenses as a starting point. We could end up significantly higher than last years $166M payroll.
Smart. money tends to run out as the off season drags on for players who peak towards their walk years. Boras is probably going to hold out for the biggest contract for Tucker then that team will regret it since his clients usually underperform after signing big deals
Boras doesn’t rep Tucker.
That’s how it’s done, right? Has the best season of his career preceding FA and lands in the place where he thrived.
Its worth remembering that Josh Naylor had a terrific ankle injury back in 2021. before that Cleveland played him in the outfield at times. The injury was so bad that it seems obvious that it probably had lingering effects for years.
Meaning that it may be a reason that his stolen base numbers were repressed until 2025. Also that it changed his training regimen which may have affected his weight. Also may have persuaded him to focus on power rather than average for a period.
All speculation, of course. Glad he has performed so well for the Ms.
Maybe. Even with the SBs, he still slow.
Unlike all the other 1B in baseball?
He’s slow. He stole cuz he’s clever. If the Astros get that, that’ll boost their chances.
Great username.
Naylor was one of the slowest players in MLB last year (not just among first baseman,). Maybe that injury explains part of it. I know my bad ankle changed everything for me.
But I think the stolen bases have more to do with opponents not taking him seriously as a threat, and Naylor getting good reads/jumps.He might even be recognizing which pitches are most likely in specific counts and little things like that.
I would only rule out speed as the explanation.
1/50 let’s go!!
“Infamous Robinson Cano Contract”
I do not understand this narrative. Cano was a great signing for Seattle. He was only an All-Star 3 times wearing a Mariners jersey and had the highest OPS+ stretch (129) of any team in his entire career. Not only did he have great numbers in SEA their FO was able to unload his contract when they decided to begin their only rebuild in Franchise history. A rebuild that is solely responsible for where they are today: a contending team with one of the best farm systems in all of MLB.
MLBTR is not the only media outlet to paint the Cano contract in Seattle in a negative light. I’ve also seen it in local SEA articles. Regardless, its wrong. Writers who label the Robinson Cano contract in Seattle as “infamous” should stop and think about dropping the “i” and the “n” because Seattle would not be where we are today w/o that Cano contract
Agreed. The cano contract hate is wild. Cano was a stud in SEA.
Imagine if Josh Naylor is another Jose Abreu
That is highly unlikely, and you know it.
I know. It’s just a joke.
Josh will turn 29 next summer.
Jose, from 29 to 33 put up 14.9 WAR, OPS+ of 129, and averaged .290 with 26 HRs per and didn’t steal more than 3 bases in any season.
Pretty sure the M’s would LOVE that!!!
Astros 27! – don’t worry, you’re not alone when you relive the memory of that infamous Jose Abreu contract. Orioles fans can commiserate and empathize with the Astros fanbase. You can forever discuss which 1B contract was worse – Abreu or the other disastrous 1B signing : Chris Davis. Hahaha
Chris Davis.
This contract is gonna be a steal.
I can see that.
@DarkSide30
For which side?
I can see it for both sides.
Just announce the number already my gosh. I hate this about the Ms – always play it so close to the vest.
The Mariners are ridiculous.
You’re the one who is ridiculous.
Maybe the Mariners fans I know are.
Which couch were your guys sitting on in October?
Your username and comment make it more likely that you should be. Instant report. You’re a disgrace to mankind, past the point of return. Just because your parents don’t give you enough attention doesn’t mean you should seek it here. Disgusting behavior.
I reported.
chill
$92.5 million, 5 years. Full no trade clause. Seems fair to both sides. As an M’s fan I’m just happy it’s done. It’s rare that a good free agent hitter actually wants to come to Seattle and he fits perfectly.
He almost died sending Seattle to the World Series.
Mekias0, I hate to share it with you, but as an Astros fan, I think an AAV of 18.5 million is a bit less, only if you really want to come. And as you said, especially Seattle. Peace, wish best of luck on both Astros and Mariners. A’s are going to get into our shoes next year.
He failed
Awesome move and getting this done so early really lets them set the market. Really would like to see them try and bring Ketel back. Honestly I wouldn’t rule them out on Tucker either. I really think the M’s are here to make a statement and go for it all this year.
Ketel would be a terrible decision. He is on the downswing with huge contract numbers attached
Okay. Not sure what I was thinking but his numbers are fine still. Contract still not worth acquiring though
There is $91 million remaining in guaranteed money, plus the 2031 player option. At age 32, the return would not be the equivalent of his past performance, as you would expect regression. However, he is an excellent player with a contract below market value. He is the best-hitting second baseman in MLB..
Marte has averaged about 4.5 WAR each of the past four years with roughly 30 doubles, 25 homers and a .275 average. There are no great signs of decline. His contract takes him through age 36 and is for slightly less than the one Naylor just signed. It would be costly but if Castillo fronted the deal, with say Ford and Young, there would be money to pursue a pitcher like Freddy Peralta.
I’m sorry to break it to you Yanks4life22, the only possible suitors for Kyle Tucker are your Yankees, your rival Dodgers, your rival’s rival’s Giants, and the neighboring Mets.
Mariners Revenue-379 million
A’s Revenue-Dirt, not worth mentioning
Ranger’s Revenue- 406 million
Astros Revenue-494 million
Angels Revenue-398 million
Yanks-728 million
Dodgers-1 billlion
I haven’t fact checked my sources but I would rule them out. The M’s are here to make a statement, but Tucker will sign a 400 million deal. Will the Mariners pay that. I appreciate the idea, but that’s just buns.
Where on earth are you getting revenue figures that you think are accurate?
Google. I never said are accurate. I said, “I haven’t fact checked my sources” You can fact check them.
Oh, then I’ll just tell you they’re not accurate.
Prove it’s not.
Teams Above 700MM
1. Yankees 705MM
2. Dodgers 701MM
Teams Above 500MM
3.Red Sox 514MM
4. Cubs 528MM
5.Giants 533MM
6. Phillies 528MM
Teams Above 400MM
7.Mets 446MM
8. Astros 499MM
9. Braves 476MM
10. Rangers 446MM
Teams Above 300MM
11. Angels 398MM
12. Cardinals 395MM
13. Mariners 383 MM
I would give only the 475MM teams a real chance and Mets. I don’t know why their revenue is so low.
cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-official-mlb-team-valuat…
Is this link not valid?
Correct. Invalid link.
Those are projections. MLB teams do not release their revenue earnings. That’s a well-established fact and a huge complaint by players, as it’s unfair in negotiations.
espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29269242/inside-mlb-financ…
Did you always ask others to do your homework?
Okay fine. I’ll go with a different approach. They are revenue sharing teams, meaning their revenue is pretty low. If even some of the non-revenue sharing teams cannot afford Tucker like the Astros, Braves, and Rangers, what makes you think that M’s have money for Tucker.
I don’t lol. Not if they want to continue with their current profit margin.
Okay. Can we resolve it because I’m getting tired of talking about this.
And their profits will likely increase.
Astros27! –
Thats easy-
Not one single MLB owner has let ANYONE see their ‘books.’ Nor will they. So until that happens not a single site online can show any accurate figures
Tucker has to be ruled out based on what they are supposedly willing to spend this off-season ($34 million). Marte, on the other hand, would make sense, as they could help the Diamondbacks on the pitching end while securing another excellent bat at the same price (as Naylor).
I saw a source that he could get an AAV higher than Vlad
6.5 million dollars just by signing. I’m opening up a marijuana dispensary with a restaurant inside. Make it 2 stories and in the heart of Seattle. And then a 2nd location near or next to the tourist attraction “the first Starbucks”
Most of us aren’t millionaires and never will be.
Depending on the exact contact structure, the present value of this deal is around $78 million.
That number should be reported
Good to see Naylor enjoyed being there. He obviously could have gotten bigger deal elsewhere, so refreshing he doesnt need to get every last cent. We all could live well in 90 million.
@Joe S That’s not obvious at all. At fangraphs, just to give a few examples, the subscribers crowdsourced his median deal at 4/80m and his average deal at 4/87m.8m
Take the median as the more representative figure, and Naylor sold his age 33 season for $12.5m. That’s a nice figure when in a lot of versions of his timeline he’s out of the game by that age, or seriously injured and playing 80 games, or he can no longer play 1B and no longer hits well enough to warrant the DH slot.
Given almost no one was predicting a 5-year deal, the Mariners went the extra mile, bought out his 5th year knowing they’d probably be writing it off, and they did so without breaking the bank because they like the player and valued his ALCS performance and his contributions in the clubhouse.
But no one was looking to give Josh a 6th year or boost the value of a deal over $100m—and given his body type, the chance is not small that the contract quickly goes bust. He was a competent regular in 2023 and 2024, but only minimally so, with little room to spare. It shouldn’t surprise anyone if he’s got two decent, 2-win seasons left, and then he’s done.
Man you really overthink this stuff. Enjoy a moment and chill.
Wow only 5 haters in the entire thread so far. That must be some sort of record. And goes to show how much Naylor is regarded across the league. And he deserves it.
He deserves more
Josh Naylor’s AAV is 18.5. In my opinion, he really wanted to stay with Seattle and might’ve been able to get a higher paying deal elsewhere. But he went here before any other team could offer a deal. Just like Shane Bieber, did his player option so no other team could offer a deal.
State of each AL West team
Mariners-Rebuild complete, prime stage coming up
Angels-Still rebuilding
Athletics- Rebuild almost done, could compete in 2026
Astros- Declining, still holding up, competitive for now
Rangers-Declining fast, barely holding up, inconsistent.
Mariners – As a fan I’m super excited, feels like our first World Series title is coming
Athletics – I wish their almost finished rebuild were happening in Oakland instead of Sacramento and Las Vegas
Astros – Declining but trying to stay competitive
Angels – Just gonna stay mediocre
Rangers – Declining fast and could have a losing season
As an Astros fan and a Mariners fan, you dislike the Rangers. The Rangers will have a losing season
World Series Percent
M’s-85%
“Stros=60%
Angels=0%
A’s-40%
Rangers-50%
Angels might never pull out of their funk, at least not until they have a new owner.
They extended their GM last year. I don’t think that helped.
Naylor’s contract will produce more value than any 4+ year deal signed by a free agent first baseman this offseason.
Great deal for the Mariners, I wish that the Mets got him, it’s a slow off season so far, Who’s Next.
The Mets would still go for Alonso. And trade for Walker at the last moment.
The Naylor signing doesn’t bode well for Alonso.
Both Alonso and Naylor had a good year by their limited standards in 2025. Here are their fWAR totals over the past three years, then the 2025 figure:
Josh Naylor—8.1, 3.1
Petey LaBonzo—8.5, 3.6
Naylor’s two years younger, in fact he’s two years and 197 days younger, so it’s more than fair to assume given how comparable the two players are in overall value, that the equivalent of Naylor’s 5-year deal is a 3-year deal for Pete. Even two years wouldn’t be an insult, but let’s stick with three.
Naylor is also a much better defender, while Pete’s no longer a 1Bman, really, and stands no chance of being worth putting out there as a defensive 1Bman by the last year of his presumptive deal, 2028.
In fact, given how he finishes in the worst 8% in all of baseball among 1Bmen at FRV, OAA, arm strength, and sprint speed, and literally injuries his own teammates with his arm, Pete should already have been DHing in 2025.
Should Pete get a higher AAV than Naylor? It’s hard to see why. Other than teh HRZZZ!!! there’s nothing of interest in his game that appeals to fans over the age of 12—so if Pete is relegated to DH duties, only, or he plays 1B no more than occasionally, he’s actually worth less than Naylor if the two players simply repeat their 2023 to 2025 seasons over the next three years.
As for those luscious HRs, the game doesn’t care how your value accumulates and in fact it’s better if you’re good enough on defense, as Naylor is—and Pete is not—that you can stick at the position for the next several years.
It’s also hardly clear that Pete will age better than Naylor, so three years when Naylor’s getting five seems generous to Pete, particularly since from May 6th to the end of the year he hit .253/311/485.
in 549 PA
If you’re a GM do you want to pay through the nose for HR that don’t add value versus other sources of value, and tack on an extra year (or two, or three) just because Pete had a phenomenally lucky April 2025 with a not-to-be-repeated BABIP of .371 compared to his career figure of .270?
As for the argument “Pete plays every day,” how is that a plus for a guy who took out the MLB ERA leader in mid-June then tried to take out the Mets de facto ace on a nearly identical play a few months later? In Pete’s case, durability isn’t worth anything if he’s demanding to play 1B most days.
Stearns had an abominable year in 2025 but he seems invested enough in the job to resist Cohen’s boneheaded insistence on bringing Pete back, particularly in the context of its corollary, having to sit around for another three months waiting for Pete to grasp that the seven-year deal he’d prefer infinitely more than returning to the Mets just isn’t going to materialize.
So long, Pete. You project as a 2-win R-R 1Bman turning 31—who knows so little about the game he thinks seven years and two hundred million dollars are both possibilities. Enjoy… Colorado? The Angels?
“Other than teh HRZZZ!!! there’s nothing of interest in his game”
He was more productive than Naylor in 2025.
Wow! Looks like Jack Strawb has been binge drinking again. You know how some folks get a bit more loose lipped and loquacious after a few snorts?? Call an Uber Jack, write us a summary of that historical novel in the morning
I love this. For player and team.