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Cardinals Trade Nolan Arenado To Diamondbacks

By Steve Adams | January 13, 2026 at 11:53pm CDT

After more than a yearlong residency on the rumor mill, Nolan Arenado’s time in St. Louis is over. The Cardinals announced Tuesday that they’ve traded Arenado and cash to the D-backs in exchange for minor league right-hander Jack Martinez (Arizona’s eighth-round pick in the 2025 draft). The Diamondbacks are reportedly on the hook for a total of $11MM of the remaining $42MM owed to Arenado over the next two seasons. The Cardinals owe the remaining $31MM. Arizona’s 40-man roster had a vacancy but is now at capacity with the addition of Arenado.

With the Cardinals entering a rebuild under new president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom, trading the 34-year-old Arenado (35 in April) has been a primary goal this offseason. St. Louis has finally achieved that goal but paid a hefty price to do so. Arizona will be on the hook for just $5MM this season and $6MM next year.

Three years ago, a salary dump of Arenado would’ve been hard to imagine. He was a National League MVP finalist after hitting .293/.358/.533 with 30 home runs and his typical brand of elite defense during that 2022 season. His offense slipped considerably in 2023 (.266/.315/.459) but was still north of league average. It dipped to about average in 2024, however, and plummeted well below par this past season.

In 436 plate appearances with the Cardinals in 2025, Arenado turned in an anemic .237/.289/.377 batting line. By measure of wRC+, he was 16% worse than an average hitter at the plate. Arenado’s 12 home runs were his lowest in a full season since his rookie year back in 2013. This year’s 6.4% walk rate was his lowest since 2015. When considering that his 34.1% chase rate on pitches off the plate was also his worst since 2015, that’s not particularly surprising. Arenado’s 11.2% strikeout rate was one of the lowest in MLB and one of the best in his career, but he also posted his highest-ever infield fly rate — 16.5% of his fly-balls were harmless pop-ups — and recorded some of the worst exit velocity and hard-hit numbers of his career.

Suffice it to say, Arenado’s decline at the plate has been steep. He still possesses plus contact skills but will need to scale back his chase rate and cut out some of those weak pop-ups if he’s to improve in a meaningful way. Fortunately for Arenado, he’s going to a more favorable offensive environment than the one he’s been calling home in St. Louis. While Phoenix’s Chase Field isn’t the hitters’ haven it once was, it plays largely neutral to right-handed power now — a stark gain for Arenado relative to St. Louis’ Busch Stadium, which is the fifth-worst park for right-handed home run power over the past three years, per Statcast’s Park Factors.

Prior to adding Arenado, the Diamondbacks had been involved in the market for Alex Bregman. A match there always seemed like something of a long shot, given Arizona’s intent to reduce payroll in 2026, but the interest was legitimate. The Snakes quickly pivoted and brought in a much more affordable option to hold down the hot corner for the next two seasons. Arenado’s glove has also taken some steps back in recent years, but he’s still an above-average defender. He’ll give manager Torey Lovullo a quality pair of defenders on the left side of the infield, joining breakout shortstop Geraldo Perdomo in that regard.

Acquiring Arenado leaves the Diamondbacks with little opportunity for former No. 6 overall pick and top prospect Jordan Lawlar. Perdomo’s breakout appeared to push Lawlar down the defensive spectrum to third base, but he looked overmatched both with the glove and in the batter’s box during his first few tests against MLB pitching. The D-backs were considering giving him some time in the outfield, and perhaps with Jake McCarthy now in Colorado following this weekend’s trade, there’ll be a clearer path to that experiment. If not, Lawlar has a minor league option remaining and can be sent back to Triple-A (where he’s routinely thrashed opposing pitchers) — or even included in a potential trade package to address needs elsewhere on the roster.

Even with the Snakes looking to cut payroll, the addition of that fraction of Arenado’s contract amounts to little more than a footnote. He’s effectively replacing a league-minimum player, so this trade adds a net $4.2MM to the team’s books. Per RosterResource’s estimates, that brings Arizona’s payroll just north of $170MM. That’s more than $17MM shy of last year’s Opening Day payroll. An exact target isn’t clear, but there should be room to add a reliever or two, at the very least, and further trades could always change the payroll outlook one way or another.

If the money changing hands (and the frequent reporting in the year-plus leading up to today’s trade) wasn’t indicative enough that this amounts to a salary dump for St. Louis, the return should be. Martinez hasn’t pitched an inning in professional ball yet. The Diamondbacks selected him with their eighth-round pick last year out of Arizona State University. His $167K signing bonus checked in south of his No. 243 overall selection’s $223K slot value.

A 6’4″, 215-pound righty, Martinez started his college career playing Division-III ball before transferring twice and ending up in the Sun Devils’ rotation as a senior. He was tagged for a 5.47 ERA through 15 starts during his senior year. It’s not an encouraging number, but Martinez punched out 32.3% of his opponents and can run his fastball up to 97 mph, per MLB.com’s scouting report. He has a four-pitch mix with a changeup serving as his best secondary offering, but Martinez is a pure lottery ticket for the Cardinals’ reshaped player development department.

A year ago, the Cardinals thought they had worked out a trade to send Arenado the Astros. Arenado, however, invoked his no-trade protection to nix that arrangement, reportedly due to reservations about the Astros’ commitment to contending; Houston had just traded Kyle Tucker to the Cubs days prior to the nixed Arenado deal. Heading into the current offseason, Arenado was forthcoming about the fact that he’d be more open-minded to offseason trade scenarios than he was last winter.

That clearly seems to be the case, but the D-backs might’ve been a viable landing spot for him even if he were continuing to remain selective. Arizona may be scaling back payroll, but their signings of Merrill Kelly and Michael Soroka — plus their reported interest in the aforementioned Bregman — all signal a commitment to try to field a contender in 2026. Beyond that, Arenado is a Southern California native with a home in Arizona. There are geographic benefits that surely played into his decision to waive that no-trade clause for a move to the desert.

For the Cardinals, moving Arenado now clears a relatively nominal sum from the long-term books and furthers their goal of creating opportunities for younger players. It remains to be seen whether Arenado’s third base reps will go to Nolan Gorman, top prospect JJ Wetherholt or even former top prospect/third baseman-turned-outfielder Jordan Walker. Whoever takes up regular work at the hot corner will be a more viable long-term option at the position than Arenado is as he enters his mid-30s.

The trade of Arenado is the third of a big-name veteran on a large contract for the Cardinals this offseason. They’ve already traded Sonny Gray and Willson Contreras to the Red Sox. Those players were shipped out in separate deals, with St. Louis eating notable portions of money in those trades, too. Between Gray, Contreras and now Arenado, the Cardinals will be shelling out $59MM over the next two seasons to three players who are no longer on their books.

Eating that amount of money to facilitate the trades of three former All-Stars is unprecedented, but the Cardinals have been clear about their intent to rebuild the organization from the ground up, modernizing the player development department, analytics staff and various other components of the team’s baseball operations setup — all while affording younger and more controllable players the opportunity to establish themselves in the majors. With three pricey veterans gone, much of the heavy lifting has been taken care of, but the Cardinals are still widely expected to trade second baseman Brendan Donovan and left-handed reliever JoJo Romero before the season begins.

Katie Woo of The Athletic first reported that the two sides were in serious discussions. John Gambadoro of 98.7 FM Arizona Sports broke the news that an agreement was in place and added that Martinez was going back to St. Louis. Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic first reported details on the cash changing hands.

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  1. Payne Train

    1 month ago

    Heck ya – good for both sides. We’ll see if ownership is willing to eat enough money to get anything worth while back in the return !

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    • Enjoy sack lunch

      1 month ago

      Both teams played hard

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        1 month ago

        I’m shocked on the return to St, Louis and I’m questioning why Boston didn’t pivot back. While his bat is not the same, his glove is fine and with so little money being on the hook for, they could have double-downed on Bichette.

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        • gomer33

          1 month ago

          Leave Bichette alone! If he’s gone please be a NL team.

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        • dugmet

          1 month ago

          Because his bat was terrible in 2025, 87 OPS+ is brutal.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 month ago

          Different team, new season, playing for a contender again , etc. With the cost being minimal, cut him if he doesn’t rebound.

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        • bullred

          1 month ago

          Yes I think so. Light the competitive furnace in his heart and I think he can give you a little more. Maybe 2 war

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        • Sad.Sox 3 (Skenes in 2027)

          1 month ago

          Dewey- I agree. I hope that they were at least on the phone after Bregman left. Not sure i would’ve wanted Arenado, but he is a very capable defender.
          More importantly, I have lost faith completely in Breslow. I guess making a lot of trades doesnt make you good at making trades. Based on this deal it appears as though Chaim got the better of Breslow on both of our trades with him.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 month ago

          Sad, time will tell on the deals. I actually trust Breslow and have cintinued to blame ownership. DD left because of the spending shift. He saw the handwriting on the wall. bloom’s fault was his lack of developing pitching but his approach to take the best available aided Breslow’s ability to make trades now. The fact that Anthony signed last year is big in my eyes. Breslow understands if players are not signed early, Henry’s aversions will price them out later. Rafaela and Bello have been good or at least fair deals and the only one not looking good right now is Campbell. Three out of four as of today is pretty good.

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      • Lanidrac

        1 month ago

        In the previous article talking about the Red Sox pursuit of Bregman mlbtraderumors.com/2026/01/details-of-red-sox-purs… it mentioned they had narrowed their focus to five infield targets, and Arenado wasn’t on that list. I think they just weren’t very interested in him.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        1 month ago

        Lanidrac, the cost obviously got lower and apparently the Sox as you mentioned weren’t interested but they IMO should have been.

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        • SoCalBrave

          1 month ago

          The cost got lower because the Red Sox and the Angels were not interested in Arenado.
          So it’s a catch 22. If the Red Sox had pivoted back to Arenado, perhaps the Cards would ask for more back or pay less of the contract.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 month ago

          Remember SoCal Bloom knows the Sox system. There had to be a player or two that may be lottery tickets but because of his knowledge that he could have gambled on over this return. I’m hoping the Sox are closer on other moves that have not been mentioned.

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    • EndinStealth

      1 month ago

      I doubt they get much for him even if they eat 80 or more percent. But good move nonetheless. He needs a hitters park and the Cards need to open the spot (3b).

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 month ago

        It’s a win if they cleared 80% of the salary.
        No reason for STL to have Arenado on the roster.

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        • EndinStealth

          1 month ago

          I dont think you understood who I meant was eating 80%. Its the Cardinals, but still a good move.

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        • FrontOfficeStan

          1 month ago

          I’m still waiting for whats his name to tell us that the cardinals are not entering a rebuild, and blame the stupid cubs fan writers on this site.

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        • Validity

          1 month ago

          Baltimore: Agree, no reason.

          Side note: who would have thought, three years ago, that Nolan probably isn’t even going to be a HOF’er?!

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    • Ducey

      1 month ago

      Not understanding this. Arenado has had his OPS + go from 151,108,102,87 over the last 4 years. He will be 35. Surely they can find someone with some upside to put up an ops+ of 87 or more.

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      • WCSoxFan

        1 month ago

        The Dbacks have Lawlar and Alexander as young 3b options currently, so they have the upside. And given that, it’s unlikely a superior player would want to play in Arizona without a guarantee of a full time job.

        Arenado is still a string defender, so he can platoon with their young pieces. If he has a miraculous bounce back offensively then they can deal him at the trade deadline for a nice return.

        3B looks to me as a lesser need than SP, RP, 1B and OF. It will be interesting to see if those makes the Dbacks more willing to trade Marte for other needs given that Alexander/Lawlar could shift to 2nd.

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        • Mr Rickey

          1 month ago

          He still has a no trade clause.

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        • WCSoxFan

          1 month ago

          @Bivouac-Sal

          Do you have a source confirming he has retained his no trade clause? It’s possible, but it’s not uncommon for the clause to be negotiated out upon trade. Sonny Gray did this recently when traded to the Red Sox.

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        • Mr Rickey

          1 month ago

          No I don’t have a source. It’s more common for all contract terms to flow in a trade. Ask Hazen.

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        • WCSoxFan

          1 month ago

          In typical contracts, all contract clauses flowing is the norm. But with no-trade clauses, it’s no longer the case as the player’s leverage typically leads to altered contract terms. This would be the third player the Cardinals have traded with a no-trade clause this off-season – the first two had changes made to their contracts.

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        • Mr Rickey

          1 month ago

          According to Cott’s Contracts: …aukee 2016 (4-111) (St. Mary’s) $536,400 signing bonus (slot amount) agent: Boras Corp. ML service: 7.049 Nolan Arenado 3b 8 years/$260M (2019-26), plus 2027 extension 8 years/$260M (2019-26) signed extension with Colorado 2/26/19 19:$26M, 20-24:$35M, 25:$32M, 26:$27M Arenado may opt out of contract after 2021 season full no-trade protection award bonuses: $100,000 for MVP ($50,000 for 2nd-5th in vote). $100,000 for Comeback Player of Year. $…

          Dunno if this has been updated.

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        • jmclennan

          1 month ago

          Mike Hazen confirmed it in his media session this afternoon.

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        • WCSoxFan

          1 month ago

          The Cots deals list the updated clauses after the trade within the contract breakdown; you can see this listed for the Arenado trade from Colorado to St. Louis. There hasn’t been anything reported regarding this yet, so likely nothing to do until it is – usually Cots takes the info from the AP as the primary source for contract details. I’m sure the details will come out within the next couple of days.

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        • Mr Rickey

          1 month ago

          I’ll wait here.

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      • sedonared15

        1 month ago

        I think at $11M for 2 years it’s worth the gamble. If he’s awful at the plate AND in the field, they just buy out his contract not a big deal. But IF he’s at least a 100+ OPS player, he more than pays off his salary.

        And like WCSoxFan said, they have a couple capable 3B in Lawlar (who still needs a lot of learning) and Blaze who rocketed up to a starter last year. I imagine Blaze will go to LF or CF though, at least until Gurriel is back.

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        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Having a top rated prospect like Lawler, it seems only proper to add an obstacle to his playing time. So much for upside.

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        • sedonared15

          1 month ago

          @Stymeedome- Lawlar has shown little to no ability in his at bats or time on the field. It is in very limited time with only 97 at bats, but he went hit less in like 50 at bats his 2nd turn up. Lawlar is starting in AAA if I’m Lovullo. He only gets time if there’s injuries and even then, I might only throw him in the OF cuz he tends to make very easy mistakes with the glove.

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        • Web's #2

          1 month ago

          Lawlar’s .182/.257/.288/.545 line with mediocre defense showed pretty clearly that he was not ready. AAA numbers, especially PCL numbers, rarely translate to the majors. This gives him a mentor to show him the right way to play the game and takes the pressure off. With Arenado at 3B, Marte at 2B, and Del Castillo penciled in at DH he will get plenty of AB.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        1 month ago

        Ducey, st worst you have a solid glove. A change of scenery though could reinvigorate his bat. I’m not expecting his MVP type bat but something in between it and the last two years.

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      • Lanidrac

        1 month ago

        It was down to 87 only because he was playing hurt in July. Throw out that month like everyone should, and he had a much better OPS+ of 95 last season.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 month ago

      Win-win deal. This is all Nolie was worth to another team as many of us said. Hope he does well in the Arizona sun.

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    • seamaholic 2

      1 month ago

      There is essentially no return.

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      • Enjoy sack lunch

        1 month ago

        The return is not having Nolan Arenado in your lineup.

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        • Luis_Fazenda

          1 month ago

          Reminds me of the scene in Moneyball…

          Billy Beane: We got a problem, David?
          David Justice: No, it’s okay. I know your routine. It’s patter, it’s for effect. But it’s for them, all right? That **** ain’t for me.
          Billy Beane: Oh, you’re special?
          David Justice: You’re paying me seven million bucks a year, man, so yeah, maybe I am, a little bit.
          Billy Beane: No, man, I ain’t paying you seven. Yankees are paying half your salary. That’s what the New York Yankees think of you. They’re paying you three and a half million dollars to play against them.

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        • Bucket Number Six

          1 month ago

          The new Evan Longoria.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          Arenado still being in the lineup would’ve been just fine now that he’s healthy again. The problem was the logjam he had created.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      They included a ton of money ($26 mil), but didn’t get a lot in return. One pitching prospect who has yet to pitch in pro ball. High K, low hit guy, but with a ton of walks and high ERA in college as well. Basically a project. It was all about clearing room for more of the young guys in the end.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        1 month ago

        There was this really annoying cards fan that insisted they aren’t looking to salary dump Nolan and wouldn’t hanlve to eat much and would get back some prospects. where is he now? haha

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        • Enjoy sack lunch

          1 month ago

          Prob out with his friends, not thinking about it.

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        • Charlie'sSinging

          1 month ago

          I’ve seen a few over the past few months who actually thought we were going to get a legit return for him. Silly. Happy with the deal we made. It accomplished what we needed to accomplish.

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        • Unclemike1526

          1 month ago

          The whole point of hiring Bloom is to restock the farm and unload as much salary as possible so I’d say he’s doing exactly what they hired him to do so far. The whole point of the trades was to clear the decks and start over. Mission accomplished..

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        • The Boogeyman

          1 month ago

          Restocked with a giant question mark is all I am saying. We will not know if he is any good for probably 3-4 years. Lots can go wrong in that time. A maybe is not a win when it comes to restocking the farm system.

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        • stollcm

          1 month ago

          Prospects are just that. Prospects. They are all and unproven commodity and never a guarantee of success of any sort

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        • Unclemike1526

          1 month ago

          The guy hasn’t even had his first draft yet. Impatient much? It’s not like they had a giant glut of tradable pieces to bring back A+ talent here. All he had to deal was salary dumps from the previous boss.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          Clear the decks, yes, but dumping salary was never a priority. Even here the Cards didn’t actually dump much salary and made the move mostly to clear up playing time at 3B.

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        • The Boogeyman

          1 month ago

          Mike-

          You are on this site for a reason and I would think part is because what the writers on here say. Even Steve Adams in today’s chat was not impressed with what they got. Just because you do not agree with what I said does not mean I am wrong. I am not the only poster not impressed with the return. We all knew it was not going to be massive. We will not know for at least three years if it did the Cardinals any good.

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        • Unclemike1526

          1 month ago

          What exactly WERE you expecting back for a washed 35 year old with a tremendously overpaid contract? The D Backs 1,2 and 3 prospects? Look it’s time to leave Oz and get back to Kansas Dorothy! No disrespect but get real man.

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          1 month ago

          Hey Mike, sorry for the off topic but wanted to get your take on the Bears and your thoughts on how far they can go and that QB you have is certainly something else entirely, particularly in the 4th quarter. The dude has an arm.

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        • Unclemike1526

          1 month ago

          ISOB- It’s fallen OK for them so far. They have the best possible seeding for them right now. Stafford has sucked in Soldiers Field even when he was healthy and he’s supposed to have a bum flipper. I can’t believe they’re home dogs to the Rams. Now if it goes 49ers take out Seattle, Bears take out Rams and now it’s 49ers in Soldiers Field in January. Advantage Bears. If Seattle wins and the Bears have to go to Seattle then the odds go way down. Actually the Bears play the last game of the weekend so they’ll know before they the the field. I’ll be watching both games with great interest and my defibrillator next to me for the Bears game like usual.

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    • The Boogeyman

      1 month ago

      Not sure it was good for either team really. I give the advantage to the Diamondbacks as Arenado is a potential plus for them. The Cardinals get a maybe back. It is better than what the Twins got for Correa but still very much and uncertainty that might not pan out.

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 month ago

        The prospect is unlikely to pan out as more than a depth reliever but that wasn’t the point. It gives them another $11MM to reallocate elsewhere and opens up a roster spot. That’s where the value was for STL. Arenado wouldn’t build anymore value riding the bench and taking up a roster spot.

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        • It's in the CARDS

          1 month ago

          I seriously doubt that $11m will be spent during rebuilding years. The Cards FO has saved money in better years for a “war chest” and failed to spend it. Post-2022 has eroded a lot of trust between the fans and ownership.

          This is probably a lose-lose trade. DBacks are gambling Arenado’s got more production in him than $11m and a roster spot. Cards are gambling Gorman or Walker rediscover their rookie seasons, or Fermin or Prieto are real, or start Wetherholt’s clock a little early.

          Sad that in 2022 both Goldschmidt and Arenado seem primed to go into the Hall as Cardinals, and now neither probably will.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          There’s no such thing as a “war chest” the Cardinals failed to spend. They spent as much as they reasonably could on payroll in both 2023 and 2024. They even bought at the 2024 trade deadline. Then they reallocated money to player development, and now they’re rebuilding as well as dealing with significant revenue cuts from both attendance and their TV deal.

          Even then, though, they probably could’ve kept Arenado and still added two or three more free agent pitchers on one-year deals (as they still plan to do) if absolutely necessary.

          Meanwhile, Arenado should be worth quite a bit more than $11M over two years now that he’s healthy again so that his bat will probably rebound.

          As for the Cardinals, if Gorman still doesn’t work out, there’s also Saggese, or they might keep Donovan.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          Arenado has no love for Colorado IF he makes it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Cards cap on. Goldy is probably going as a Dback. If he signs back there this year then it’s probably a done deal.

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    • Web's #2

      1 month ago

      Not the destination I thought he would land in, but at that price still a good deal for the Diamondbacks. Fills the need for them at 3B. Gives them a mentor that plays the game the right way even if his skills have eroded a bit in the last couple of years.

      I had thought the Angels were the ideal location, but it looks like losing the Skags case has taken all the money out of their budget.

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    • ThatsIT?

      1 month ago

      3 years ago it would have been hard to believe he would be a salary dump? How? Did he drink from the fountain of youth. Guys who are 36,37 38 can just fall off all of sudden. It’s not hard to believe at all. It’s not hard to believe one or all of the current best free agents aren’t going to be good at 35 either.

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  2. angt222

    1 month ago

    Very interesting.. didn’t see Arizona popping up of the Arenado radar.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      He is their replacement for Geno but this kind of blocks Lawlar unless they trade Marte

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      • Fever Pitch Father

        1 month ago

        They’re trying Lawlar in CF this year

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        • Seamaholic

          1 month ago

          Ah right. Which also explains why they dumped McCarthy for essentially nothing. Makes sense.

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      • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

        1 month ago

        At effectively 2/11 he’s not making that much more than a bench CI. Last year Justin Turner made 1/8 (6 base plus a 2M buyout in the off-season)

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  3. Steven hempel

    1 month ago

    Well since the Cardinals are gonna eat most of the money anyways

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    • CalcetinesBlancos

      1 month ago

      Yeah for that price he might be a steal. Especially if they have someone that can platoon with him against tough RHP, it’s a great move.

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      • Lanidrac

        1 month ago

        A platoon won’t be necessary now that Arenado is healthy again. He’s not going to make the same mistake of playing hurt for an entire month.

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  4. Tavo

    1 month ago

    He has always hit well in Arizona.

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    • Canuckleball

      1 month ago

      Last season in his 3 games in Arizona, he hit .091 (1-11) and a .273 OPS.

      ‘Always’ is a bit of a stretch. He used to hit well in Arizona, back when he used to hit well in a lot of places.

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 month ago

        3 games in AZ is also useless but Arenado has been on a real bad trend.

        Head scratcher if STL isn’t covering a good bit of this contract.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          & they are. 2/11 and a lotto ticket isn’t much of a gamble on AZ’s part. Don’t mind the deal at all for them.

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        • knolln

          1 month ago

          Can we admit he’s not good? Not a Cardinals fan (actually the opposite) but live there so yay regional sports networks. Dude is toast. Mid 30s pretty normal. And no hes not a world class 3b anymore, that’s gone, not sure why its still parroted.

          I’ve got 150, I’ve got 118, who’s in at 107, can we get a taker at 87? How about for nothing and we’ll pay his contract?

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        • TB Sox NY

          1 month ago

          Arizona has a chance for the playoffs,the Cards do not.Arenado gets a chance to try to resurrect his career,maybe play some playoff games,not a loss in my book.

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        • knolln

          1 month ago

          For sure regarding playoff hopes. Id take my shot in house if the replacement name is lawler however. if you asked me, having watched Nolan fall off. Weatherholdt should be fine in st Louis (probably annoyingly good). Rangers fan, didn’t think the dbacks were hurting for infielders. We are! But poor.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          …But an OPS+ of 95 when he wasn’t playing hurt.

          He’s still got it to a decent extent, as he proved when he came back from the IL for those final two weeks last season.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          95OPS+ doesn’t exactly cut it for a starting 3B. I’d bet his playing time gets eaten into if it’s not spotty from the beginning.

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        • knolln

          1 month ago

          I don’t even get where you got that. He’s a 35m burden, not unlike rendon. I’ll give him that he cares a bit more than the other one. He’s just tailed off. Not abnormal.

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        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Have you checked the OPS of 3B recently? Its not far off.

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        • Web's #2

          1 month ago

          TB, I think that might be why he didn’t choose to go to the Angels.

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        • Web's #2

          1 month ago

          League average was 96 OPS+ for 3B. That includes Arenado’s 87 OPS+ for the season as a whole.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          It absolutely does cut it when you consider his still excellent defense.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          Where I got that? Quite a few places. Here’s a good source: mlb.com/news/nolan-arenado-to-begin-rehab-assignme…

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        • douglasb

          4 weeks ago

          “excellent” is a bit of a stretch.

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        • Web's #2

          4 weeks ago

          I guess excellent depends on your definition. Arenado was 69th percentile in FRV and 83rd percentile in OAA. About the same as Bregman.

          He was much better than the average 3B both in FRV and OAA.

          If you prefer DRS, he had a 6 DRS which was 5th best overall in MLB while Matt Chapman had a 5 DRS and was 6th best.

          I would say he was much better than the average starting 3B on defense.

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      • xXTheFETTXx

        1 month ago

        I’m not so certain there is much left in the tank for Arenado at soon to be age 35. His bat has been trending downward the last three seasons, and that doesn’t get better with age…without outside help. This seems more like a panic move by the Diamondbacks for the sake of making a move. What’s going to happen if Lawlar has a great spring, and now they have a declining Arenado on the team blocking 3rd? I mean, good for them if this is what they wanted, but I don’t see how this improved the Diamondback.

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        • Lanidrac

          1 month ago

          But it does get better when you’re no longer playing hurt

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      • Web's #2

        1 month ago

        Interesting. Arenado hurt his shoulder in the game in Chicago on July 4th and missed a few games and was placed on the IL on August 1st for that same injury. That would fit with having 3 bad games on July 18-20 in Arizona.

        He has hit 280/.334/.507/.841 in 332 PA at Chase Field. Almost exactly his career numbers overall – .282/.338/.507/.846. That is far more relevant.

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        • Web's #2

          4 weeks ago

          I apologize. I saw an article by Derrick Goold after my post that said he hurt his shoulder in a game at Pittsburgh on June 30th.

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      • Tavo

        1 month ago

        @canuckleball.Did you heard the part about playing hurt maybe on those 3 games you are only focusing, 280 batting average it’s not good for you? Specially now days, I’m not saying he’s going to do that at 35 but if they can get anything close for what they are paying him I think it’s good.

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      • Validity

        1 month ago

        Well done, Canuck.

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    • BigFred

      1 month ago

      Well, he’s changed his name to Arizona. That’s something….
      “Beyond that, Arizona is a Southern California native with a home in Arizona.”

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  5. Goose

    1 month ago

    With 3 years and $74 million on Aranado, you have to assume the Cardinals are eating a lot. If that is true you have to wonder what prospect is going back?

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    • CardsFan77

      1 month ago

      Its actually 2 years and 32 mil. Rockies pay the other 5. I hope they eat the entire amount and get sonething good in return. Why not? They would habe to pay it anyway if they cant trade him

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      • Charlie'sSinging

        1 month ago

        They were never going to get anything good in return. It was always about clearing a roster spot for a young guy and saving a few million over the next couple of years. Welcome to the big leagues, JJ Weatherholt!

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      • Web's #2

        4 weeks ago

        As the article says:
        Cardinals pay $26 million
        Diamondbacks pay $11 million
        Rockies pay $5 million
        That = ???

        Not $74 million and not $32 million.

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    • kingcong95

      1 month ago

      The Cards are prioritizing opening up innings for their prospects and salary space. If Arizona takes on enough of it, all it could cost is someone just about PTBNL level.

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    • 4thefences

      1 month ago

      As far as the Cardinals eating a lot, remember the Rockies sent $51m to them when the trade happened in ’21. So they are well fed.

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  6. seamaholic 2

    1 month ago

    Have the Dbacks completely given up on Lawlar? If so, what a collapse.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      Lawlar might be the newest Marco Luciano

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      • DarkGhost

        1 month ago

        Lawler is clearly going to get run in left field and at DH to start the year. The bat started to flash at the end of the year with consistent AB’s.

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        • Astros_fan_in_Aus

          1 month ago

          12 hits for an avge of .182 is “the bat starting to flash” ??

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          1 month ago

          AfiA

          Perhaps reading what they said would be a good idea

          Here’s what they said with emphasis on the part that ignored or missed.

          “The bat started to flash ***at the end of the year***”

          You cited Lawlar’s full season stats which included an 0 for 22 start.

          He finished the season (you know, the END OF THE YEAR) with a 141 wRC+ in his last 41 PA’s

          fangraphs.com/players/jordan-lawlar/29976/game-log…

          Now. I don’t think we can draw much info for 22 PA’s in March and April or 41 PA’s in September, but we can at least be intellectually honest when engaging in discussion.

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        • douglasb

          4 weeks ago

          Can you read? He said “at the end of the year”. In September/October Lawlar’s OPS was .851, which is good.

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        • Web's #2

          4 weeks ago

          Lawlar’s 44 PA in September are not a large enough sample size to judge a player’s performance. Especially when it took an unsustainable .429 BAbip to achieve a .308 BA and .851 OPS. Being intellectually honest would be mentioning that by adjusting down to a league average BAbip that his BA would be 86 points lower and his OPS 154 points lower.

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          4 weeks ago

          W#2

          “Being intellectually honest would be mentioning that by adjusting down to a league average BAbip that his BA would be 86 points lower and his OPS 154 points lower.”

          So many people just want to argue

          READ WHAT I WROTE.

          ” I don’t think we can draw much info for 22 PA’s in March and April or 41 PA’s in September”

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        • Web's #2

          4 weeks ago

          44 PA.

          You used the word BUT in the middle of the sentence. That literally means that you don’t believe what preceded it to be true. So you don’t believe the statement “I don’t think we can draw much info for 22 PA’s in March and April or 41 PA’s in September” is true. You were attempting to imply that it is.

          To be intellectually honest you need to take into account the fact that he got lucky in a tiny amount of PA. That that 1 month of PA needs to be thrown out the window and we need to see more of him in the majors to have any clue what kind of major league player he will be.

          I am going to make two predictions. Take them for what they are worth.

          #1 On offense in the majors Lawlar is going to be much closer to what we saw in the neutral Texas League than what we saw in the extremely hitter friendly PCL. Something close to .251/.353/.446/.798 is likely. That is still very good. Just not the nearly 1.000 OPS people seem to believe he will produce for the Diamondbacks because of his time at nearly a mile high in Reno.

          #2 – I believe 3B is not Lawlar’s long term home. That he has been used as a Swiss Army knife the past 2 seasons is an indication of his future, playing where needed and playing every day. Think Ha-Seong Kim level of defense at multiple infield positions and possibly even in CF. Alek Thomas would not block him while Arenado definitely will.

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          4 weeks ago

          W2

          “You used the word BUT in the middle of the sentence”

          Correct

          “That literally means that you don’t believe what preceded it to be true”

          What? Incorrect.

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    • Jplane

      1 month ago

      At 23, he’s still a work in progress — both at the plate and in the field. CF might not be a bad idea long term for Lawlar, who’s a great athlete with 70/80 speed. If he learns enough about OF play from Dave McKay this spring, he probably platoons with Alek Thomas in CF. When Lawlar first came up at age 21, he looked most comfortable at SS — which is nice to have around.

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  7. eatonculo

    1 month ago

    Hell yes!!! Good spot for Arenado and a cheap deal for the Snakes with Cardinals paying most of the $37 million owed to the player.

    Signing Goldy would be another good, cheap addition.

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    • playhard9

      1 month ago

      Signing Goldy would be a feel good story for the Snakes, but then they would have two faded stars who always choke in clutch situations.

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  8. Gunnar Henderson Bowman 1st

    1 month ago

    Love this for Arenado. Hope Goldschmidt comes to Arizona, too. Definitely could see Arenado stats being better in Arizona with that good hitters park.

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  9. vaderzim

    1 month ago

    Him and Marte will get along just fine…

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    • Mr. E Team

      1 month ago

      Did they get into a fight or something?

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      • vaderzim

        1 month ago

        Not yet. Arenado has a history of being a bit of a head-case (although I can’t blame him for wanting his team to be good in Colorado).

        I feel like Marte is the most likely candidate he’d clash with, given he’s the tenured franchise veteran who has also had some drama surrounding him. Just speculating though, hopefully this move helps give the Snakes a World Series.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          1 month ago

          I will be the first to say that Arenado’s skills are rapidly declining. But I have never heard anything about him being a “head-case” or a bad teammate. He is just getting older and his body is declining in a way that impacts former elite players.

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        • vaderzim

          1 month ago

          There’s a good chance he’s mellowed with age, although his skills are definitely on the downturn.

          I just remember footage of him screaming at everyone in the dugout when he was on the Rockies, and reports of him causing tension amongst his teammates. I would need to research to confirm though.

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        • desertdawg

          1 month ago

          Basically, it is what the D’Backs did a few seasons ago when they brought in Longoria at 35 years old from Tampa Bay to be the solid veteran leader in the clubhouse and take a couple of the younger D’Backs under his wing. Play a little 3rd base maybe DH just be a veteran that is being paid by Colorado and St.Louis to play against them. Not a big investment by the D’Backs.

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        • vaderzim

          1 month ago

          I think this move could end up better than the 1 year flyer on Longoria, because they get 3 years of Nolan and while his stats have fallen since, he’s still a very good player.

          Also, St Louis is paying 75%+ of his salary.

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        • playhard9

          1 month ago

          Arenado has never been a head case, great dude. Now his offense in clutch situations….that makes the fans have a head case just watching him pop up.

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        • I like baseball sometimes

          1 month ago

          There have been hints. He was held back in the minors for an entitlement attitude.

          Then, he was injured for the end of a season (around COVID I don’t want to look it up) and I believe Kevin Pillar made a comment that the team was more relaxed without Nolan around. Chuck made some veiled comments as well which kind of surprised me.

          I think it generally stemmed from desire to play good baseball.

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        • eatonculo

          1 month ago

          Some are balking at the term “head case.” Like a lot of us, he’s just a bit different.

          He has a few tics and twitches when he’s out on the field, I’m not qualified to diagnose ADHD or OCD in someone else, but he’s probably got a little something going on. However, it doesn’t seem to be a problem.

          He is not a vocal leader. He’d rather lead by example.

          On the other hand, he seems like the kind of guy who is quiet and unassuming until it sort of blows up. That’s fine too.

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  10. desertdawg

    1 month ago

    Knowing how the D’Backs want to slash payroll it would not surprise me if the Cardinals would have to pay about at least 50 mil of the remaining 74 mil on the contract.

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    • RobblyDobs

      1 month ago

      its 32m after the Rocks 5m. Guessing the Dbacks will be paying 10-15m net.

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    • playhard9

      1 month ago

      Reading is fundamental. The amount is stated here multiple times.

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      • RobblyDobs

        1 month ago

        It wasnt at first, its been updated

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        • Astros_fan_in_Aus

          1 month ago

          It is not hard to look it up.

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  11. DigglinDickers

    1 month ago

    There goes the Dodgers winning the division.

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    • drewm

      1 month ago

      lol

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    • DigglinDickers

      1 month ago

      I don’t know why people are giving me a thumbs up, I’m a LA fan being sarcastic. I’m not worried about Arenado or the 8 home runs he’s going to hit.

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      • Tavo

        1 month ago

        @Diggilindickers Why would you be worried when you can buy the championship trophy lol

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        • DigglinDickers

          1 month ago

          Enjoy my team winning another one

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        • baseballguru

          1 month ago

          Unless you lose your third straight ring to the Red Sox of course…undefeated head to head. 😉

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  12. Bob Sacamano 310

    1 month ago

    I think Arenado is “fine” as long as he’s not THE guy. Still a good, not great anymore, defender. Hit him lower in lineup. Seems weird that they seem hell-bent on blocking Lawlar though

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      Lawler was playing SS& CF in the winter league this year. He really struggled at the plate there. They just moved McCarthy. I don’t know if they see Lawlar as a viable 3B.

      SS is not happening in AZ. CF is a possibility though.

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      • desertdawg

        1 month ago

        I see Lawler being more of a super utility player for the D’Backs this season playing numerous positions like Blaze Alexander.

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  13. Gunnar Henderson Bowman 1st

    1 month ago

    Bob- Lawlar to the outfield? I heard he was taking reps in center.

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  14. llokokokok

    1 month ago

    Arenado has been declining every year since 2022. He had multiple down defense years since then as well. I think he can still be good defensively so that may be fine. I feel like going from Eugenio hitting 36 HRs with a 142 OPS+ before the deadline to Arenado’s 87 OPS+ wet noodle, you will feel the offensive decline. Arizona probably will miss the playoffs 3 years in a row. Their pitching is bottom third and the offense that took them to the world series is in decline.

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    • desertdawg

      1 month ago

      I believe that one of the off-season statements by Lovello was he does not want the errors in the infield he had last year. Well Arenado fits what the D’Backs want at 3rd a solid glove and take whatever he gives at the plate Lovello will be happy.

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      • llokokokok

        1 month ago

        “D-backs will only pay Arenado $5MM this year and $6MM next season. That means the Cardinals are eating $26MM of the $37MM they still owe Arenado.”

        Nevermind that is a no brainer for the defense alone.
        My previous statement was based on you paying him $20m~ a year. You can go get some more offense with the money saved.

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  15. TakerDbacks!

    1 month ago

    Either Jordan outfield. Nolan 1st baseman or Jordan traded for a great deal

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  16. CaseyAbell

    1 month ago

    Arizona is not sold on Lawlar, I guess. At least not yet. If they get Arenado cheap, they can give Lawlar a little more time to develop.

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  17. Blah blah blah

    1 month ago

    Cardinals have been desperate to unload him for over a year now, teams have known this for quite sometime and let him sit on the hook. so I wonder why Arizona has decided to bite now.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      Probably because the Cards are paying $26 mil of his remaining salary. 2 years fo $11 mil is nothing in this day and age. He probably would have had a few suitors at that price.

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  18. Greentreant

    1 month ago

    This might work out for the D-backs and Arenado will have a good year. Cards are not really a good team under Marmol and I doubt any player who has time under their belt, is happy about being in rebuild mode for a considerable amount of time. That affects your mental thinking.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      1 month ago

      Greentreant – Ill be a guy who doesn’t feel that the Cardinals rebuild has to take as long as others. It’s a pretty glorious organization and system that can put money into the big league roster a little sooner than some.

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      • Greentreant

        1 month ago

        Dock, I agree, but we will see how the Cards do. I actually don’t mind the rebuild because its a good idea but I think I am more biased on Marmol. I really do not like the guy, something about him rubs me the wrong way but I could be wrong.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          4 weeks ago

          Greentreant – it might not be quite time to bring in that development manager quite yet. Some of it can be about clubhouse psychology. Marmol does have a long history in the organization, though. But it was very much time for some fresh blood. Bloom wants some of his own people. But the key is not to upset the entire cart. The Cardinals have been very successfully run on a development level since Branch Rickey…and even had some of the same people work down in the system for a half century. It’s all going to be good. Just going to have to do things right. The fans really are blessed. They dont have to do many real tear downs. A person would have to recall the late 80s and early 90s to even really recall when thry weren’t atleast competitive.

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  19. Acoss1331

    1 month ago

    Did not think Chaim would be able to move Arenado, but he got the job done.

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  20. GiantsFan81

    1 month ago

    Wowwwww!

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  21. hiflew

    1 month ago

    As a Rockies fan, there was a time when that headline would have made inconsolably sad. But I have gotten over it and then some. It was like when Troy Tulowitzki joined the Yankees A big who cares.

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  22. SandlotBenchWarmer

    1 month ago

    I would assume Arizona is taking on a good chunk of his contract with that awful return for the Cardinals?

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    • SandlotBenchWarmer

      1 month ago

      Geeze, I guess not. They couldn’t get ANYTHING better than an eight-round pick for a 1+ WAR player who hit over 10 HRs last year?

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      • Charlie'sSinging

        1 month ago

        Those are bad numbers. Cards were never going to get anything for him. For them, it was about opening a roster spot for a young guy and saving a few million in the process.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          There was a similar 3B who was non tendered this offseason. He’ll probably cost a little less than this and also plays good 3B defense.

          His name is Ramon Urias. That’s the kind of player Arenado is. Arenado just has the name from the player he used to be.

          I thought there was a chance the Angels might bail the Cards out and take on more cash in a deal for him but this feels about what he’s truly worth.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        1 month ago

        Not about the pick #. About the upside.

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  23. cwsOverhaul

    1 month ago

    Cards didn’t “buy” an even second tier prospect, so AZ perhaps paying a good portion of the 2yrs/37mil remaining.
    AZ been looking to trim payroll, so wonder if they are about to dump some non-Marte player salary in a separate trade.

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    • cwsOverhaul

      1 month ago

      Guess not. Arenado is pretty washed up, but 2yrs/11mil & a lottery ticket for AZ shows how little market thought of him (bench player compensation).

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      • Nuggethoarder

        1 month ago

        He was not good last year. He was injured, so perhaps he will rebound some. If he does, it’s a decent deal for the Dbacks. If not, they don’t lose much.

        The Cards save some money and get a lottery ticket. It’s value because Arenado’s performance in 2026 is basically irrelevant to them – they aren’t trying to win in 2026 and need playing time for younger players, not the chance of 2.0+ fWAR from an ageing veteran.

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  24. Oppo nacho

    1 month ago

    I kinda feel like if Arizona was looking for a glove first third baseman the reds should’ve checked in.

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  25. Bad Dumb Tiss

    1 month ago

    Finally!

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  26. Craviduce

    1 month ago

    Good Luck, Nado… Sorry you fell off a cliff after 2022. But Father Time always gets his pound of flesh…..he might’ve taken too much with you…shame….but your 2 1/2 seasons (2020-2022) were more than enough to make up for that trade and contract. .

    Best defender of his Generation…..hands down. Future HOF, more than likely enters as a Rockie……I hope he’s 1st ballot.

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      Same. I hope he quits tinkering with his swing and just realizes he’s a pull hitter. That’s how he made all that money in the first place.

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  27. TakerDbacks!

    1 month ago

    After looking at that contract and agreement its a steal for us!

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    • desertdawg

      1 month ago

      Totally agree, D’Backs are not looking at Arenado for his bat, they want his glove at third now that is money well spent.

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    • RobblyDobs

      1 month ago

      Hope he does great in Arizona. 2/11 is value.

      But time for the Cards to move on, so win-win (plus a 3rd win if you count Arenado)

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    • Mr Rickey

      1 month ago

      Impressive how badly STL wanted to get rid of Arenado. A very good deal for the Snakes.

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  28. Red Sox 101

    1 month ago

    Is it me or does it seem like the return to the cards is a bit light? Not expecting the moon to STL but at least slightly more

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    • Wrian Washman

      1 month ago

      They’re lucky they didn’t just get radio show tickets to a Morgan Wallen concert. Successful trade on both sides.

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      Only if you’re putting weight on the name Nolan Arenado. He’s an above average defensive 3B who can hit lefties a bit but a sub .700 OPS against RHP’s doesn’t really play.

      For $11MM—sure. But he’s closer to Ramon Urias than Nolan Arenado.

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    • CaseyAbell

      1 month ago

      It’s $11 million in salary relief. Which is all the Cards were interested in. They didn’t expect any talent in return.

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      I don’t know. They saved $11 million and got a guy who might start and throws 97. Better than we expected here in St. Louis.

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      • cardinalnationhouston

        1 month ago

        Wow, this could be what it’s really about. Ronaldo has a home in Arizona and will be just a couple hours drive from his home town.
        Could be that this is where Nolan wanted to go and Cardinals did him a solid and basically just took whatever the Snakes offered, Which was almost nothing.
        Never do business with a Snake.
        Just ask Adam and Eve 😉

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    • desertdawg

      1 month ago

      Could be the best offer they received, makes you think what were the other offers coming in, or if there were any other offers.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      Not light at all for the situation they were in. They saved $11 mil and got a high K, low hit pitching project in return. Obviously not a haul, but at this point in the game, to save $11 mil and have any shred of potential in the return is a good deal for the Cards.

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  29. DoritosLocosTaco

    1 month ago

    Best news in a long time for Angels fans!

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      That’s hilarious. 😀

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      • DoritosLocosTaco

        1 month ago

        When I saw the headline that the Cardinals traded Arenado my heart sank, expecting to see to the Angels with no money changing hands. Somehow Arte stayed out of this. Now we just need to make sure Arte stays away from Tucker and Bellinger.

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    • GinaNCRaysFan

      1 month ago

      That’s pretty funny, when I saw the post I also read it as the Angels picking up Arenado. I’ve assumed he was going to them all off-season.

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    • cajundago19

      1 month ago

      But, how lucky will you feel when he gets flipped to the Angels at the deadline, possibly giving AZ a better prospect that they flipped to STL? Arenado would certainly (maybe) sign off of that.

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    • kellin

      1 month ago

      I actually laughed and cheered when I read the news of Arenado going to Arizona.

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  30. dopt

    1 month ago

    Need Boston to trade Early and Campbell to Milwaukee for Peralta

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    • Cooperdooper7

      1 month ago

      Dopt…. glad you are not the GM…. Peralta for 1 year…. Not Giving up either of those players. Now, Abreu staight up for Peralta… sign me up

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  31. dopt

    1 month ago

    Time for JJ in StL

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    • RobblyDobs

      1 month ago

      …at 2B.

      Gormans last chance at 3B then Fermin gets his shot (with Saggese in the OF…)

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      • Charlie'sSinging

        1 month ago

        JJ will be getting every day ABs somewhere. Going to be 2nd or 3rd. They’ll get Gorman as many ABs as they can, but JJ will be the priority.

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        • RobblyDobs

          1 month ago

          Agreed – which makes me think they will put him where they want him to stay, and gorman/fermin/saggese can cover the other spot

          I want to see Winn-Wetherholt up the middle for years…

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  32. sedonared15

    1 month ago

    Idk how to feel about this. On one hand he’s still a great defender but on the other he’s a huge drop off from Suarez’s power. If anything he’ll be a Longoria 2.0 when he was with AZ and provide just enough at the plate.

    Now who at 1B? Reunion with Goldy please?

    Blaze in LF, Alek CF, Carroll RF. Defensively stout. Hope they can score enough runs though. 😬

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  33. dkhits20

    1 month ago

    If Arenado can even pull off another season like 2024, this can end up being a great deal for the D-Backs.

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  34. GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

    1 month ago

    Boston is running out of 3B options.

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    • Cooperdooper7

      1 month ago

      The Red Sox have a Third baseman…. Marcelo Mayer…. this infatuation to sign aging Free Agents of over 30 years old’s to plug a “hole” that they already have covered with a home grown player is nauseating from clueless fans.

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      • GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

        1 month ago

        Yeah, because prospects are always sure things, right? The infatuation with prospect hugging is equally nauseating from fans that only follow their own teams.

        For a team that is supposed to compete in the already crowded AL East, they’re going to be in a pretty dicey situation if they put all the pressure on the kid and he doesn’t perform, or if he gets injured (again) and they don’t have a backup plan. The position is thin and their plan now is not guaranteed to work.

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        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          So if he doesn’t work out, THEN make a trade.

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        • GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

          1 month ago

          And hope it isn’t too late by THEN or be forced to trade with teams that know you’re desperate. Why not just go after a proven commodity now?

          The point is, @Cooper is talking as if Mayer is a sure thing and any other POV is the perspective of a “clueless fan.” No prospect is a sure thing, even when as drafted as high as Mayer. If you watch baseball long enough, you know this.

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        • Cooperdooper7

          1 month ago

          The Point is at some point you have to trust your player Development system. and play the guys you have invested in to be the future of your team. Not signing an over 30 Free Agent or trading for some once star player who has seen his better days.

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        • GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

          1 month ago

          Okay, but you’re acting like Mayer is going to be a sure thing when we don’t know that. We know what Bregman can do. We know what Arenado can do, and they didn’t have to give up anything to get him, and would only be on the hook for two years if he is too over the hill (then, just plug and play Mayer).

          However, we don’t know what Mayer is going to do yet. All we have is a small sample size where he showed some pop, but looked mostly overwhelmed at the plate last season. Mayer may work out and end up being the better option, but your self-assured attitude where you pretend it isn’t a risk is the hallmark of a clueless homer fan that buys into prospect hype too much.

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        • Cooperdooper7

          1 month ago

          Again, at some point you have to give the guys with unproven potential a legit chance to shine. Also, with Bregman and Arenado you state that we know what they can do… that doesn’t mean they can still do it.
          Personally, I think Arenado is toast. I also think Bregman can have a couple more decent to above average seasons but, not at his price tag and I will take my chances that Mayer will develop into a solid player. He was excellent defensively, offensively he needs to improve versus LHP as he was overmatched…. but so is Abreu..

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        • GOAT Closer Esteban Yan

          4 weeks ago

          Arenado may be toast, but it is a two year deal where you don’t have to give up any substantial prospects. Low risk- high reward where if it doesn’t work out, you just put in Mayer who has time to season in AAA. I think it is hard to argue that Bregman is close to being average or below average any time soon considering how consistent he has been, so that is clearly just a guess on your part.

          What irked me is your original statement said we have our third basemen so self assuredly as if it is a sure thing (when as you admit he still has holes in his game) and that I’m just a clueless fan for suggesting anything else. There is risk to either scenario of going with Mayer or the vets, but depth at a position is always a good thing in baseball, which is why I’d not just assume Mayer is ready.

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  35. Sig 2

    1 month ago

    As a cardinal fan, this has been a long awaited. I believe he will be better elsewhere. He did not want to be in St. Louis anymore. This is a very late return for us eating 26 million not too happy about the contract.

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  36. Joel from NY

    1 month ago

    Wow! Things change, players age. The Cards are in effect paying 25M for a current 8th round draft pick. Yikes. Makes me think of the Mets getting a 17 year old middlin’ pitcher for McNeil.

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      They clear a spot in the lineup and saved $11 million. Jack Martinez is a lottery ticket.

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    • Nuggethoarder

      4 weeks ago

      Cards got a refund for well-worn goods. Most stores don’t carry that kind of policy anymore.

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  37. Rowsdower

    1 month ago

    Should’ve made StL eat every penny of that contract, stupid Arizona

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      That’s fine, but the other $11 million would have bought one of your top prospects.

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      1 month ago

      Then they would havd send some real potential talent back

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      • Rowsdower

        1 month ago

        Don’t trade for Arenado at all, he’s not an upper echelon player any longer. Make StL eat the contract entirely.

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        • Charlie'sSinging

          1 month ago

          And that’s why you’re not a GM. You’d get nothing accomplished.

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    • baseballguru

      1 month ago

      My guess is Nolan has a good year and this trade is 90% AZ to 10% bail/rebuild for St.L. Torrey L will light a fire under Arenado

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  38. RoyalsFanAmongWolves

    1 month ago

    This is another thing that was not on my 2026 bingo card!

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  39. Citizen1

    1 month ago

    Dam . An actual bargain. $11 mil two years for either a starter or bench player. Did mlb dehumidify the baseballs for diamondbacks stadium . The ball used to carry there

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  40. TMac1950

    1 month ago

    The DBacks pay $5M this year and $6M in 2027 for Arenado’s services. The Cardinals eat $26M of the remaining $37M on Nolan’s contract. Not sure if this $37M is with or without the monies the Rockies are paying to STL.

    The Cardinals accomplished a major off season goal. Move on from Arenado. The DBacks find a replacement 3B. Lawlar had an iron glove at 3B. He may see more time in AZ’s OF.

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    • eatonculo

      1 month ago

      The total is $42 million. The other $5 million is from Colorado.

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  41. Captain_Bigelow

    1 month ago

    Nice pick up for DBacks

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  42. ckln88

    1 month ago

    They got him for Pennie’s on the dollar for one down season. He’s only 34, got at least 3-4 good years of ball left in him.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      Three down seasons, with the last two being pretty awful. He’s done. That said, it’s a win/win, since the price was right.

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  43. swanhenge

    1 month ago

    That’s a crazy pay down by StL. AZ is making out pretty well on this being only on the hook for $11M total That’s totally worth it for a declining Arenado.

    Meanwhile, Breslow is sitting in his cubicle playing Minesweeper. (not that I was totally geeked about getting Arenado, but $11M total?!?!)

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    • Cooperdooper7

      1 month ago

      Again… at some time you have to give the Young guys coming up a chance instead of putting a past his prime player in place of the young guy… Arenado is toast.

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      • swanhenge

        1 month ago

        Mayer will get his chance at either 3B or 2B. No issues there. However giving Hamilton, Eaton, Sogard and even Romy “a chance” doesn’t seem to be in the philosophy of a team built for the post season. They’re role players and every team has them.

        And as many have probably mentioned here, Arenado is worth $11m/2 for his defense alone. Again, I wasn’t pushing for him to end up in Boston, but for what StL paid down, it was worth some consideration.

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  44. Fernando Ringworm Jr.

    1 month ago

    So is the initial trade to St. Louis still “one of the most lopsided trades in MLB history?”

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      18.2 WAR for Arenado in St. Louis. 2.2 total WAR in Colorado for all the players the Rockies got in return. Yep, that’s still pretty lopsided.

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      • Baltimore_44

        1 month ago

        You’d have to factor in the money that STL paid. If you traded a non prospect for Bogaerts’ full contract you’d end up with more WAR from Bogaerts but an awful trade.

        But it ended up being an OK deal for STL. They had to eat this dead money but they did get a 7.5 WAR season and a couple playoff trips.

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        • Fernando Ringworm Jr.

          1 month ago

          The pertinent question is could they have recreated that 16 WAR in FA for less money than they paid Nolan (including the money they are now sending to Arizona but excluding any money the Rockies covered).

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          Unlikely that they would’ve gotten a 7.5 WAR season in a single year for their $’s invested. Those guys get FA deals with $200MM+ on them.

          Think it was a fine deal. Not lopsided. Colorado just spent the saved money on Bryant in some idiotic attempt to compete when they should’ve been blowing the team up.

          Would’ve looked good if Arenado didn’t nix the Astros deal last year and they got out of most of the money owed then.

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  45. Meisteralready

    1 month ago

    All this shows is how far Arenado believes we were away from ever contending. This will make the 70s Cardinals look like a dynasty. Gorman, who is a worse fielder and hitter than Arenado, get another chance, which I think he’ll squander. Get ready for another 3 for 60

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      Not really an indictment on anything. Arenado already looked foolish for not going to Houston last year when he had the chance. I’d think he was happy to be wanted anywhere else at this point.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      JJ will benefit the most. Gorman will platoon. It’s worth it to free up an every day job for JJ.

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  46. DarkGhost

    1 month ago

    I’ll be interested to see what Gambo has to say at 2pm today. Wonder if this means a shift to 1B for Marte with Blaze picking up 2B. Lawler going to start the year in LF it would seem.

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  47. Rsox

    1 month ago

    I like this for one reason and one reason only: it keeps Breslow from getting desperate and trading for him after losing Breslow

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  48. I_MissWhiteyBall

    1 month ago

    Thanks to Nolan for his time in St. Louis. My kids favorite player. Good luck in the desert, have a great bounce back season and shut the critics up…

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  49. Bryzzo2016

    1 month ago

    YIKES, paid all that money just to unload Nolan and get a meh “prospect” in return. Things have gotten really ugly in STL.
    The Cards are the only game in town, I feel bad for STL sports fans.

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    • Devlsh

      1 month ago

      Stl fans have enjoyed a LOT of quality baseball over the years, and are smart enough to live through a reasonable rebuild, especially if done right.

      So far, the Bloom administration seems to be doing it right, cashing in veterans for short and long term returns, and hiring new blood in the front office.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      Cards, Blues, and City SC. Battlehawks are still a big draw as well. They did what was expected for this trade, which was to free up a spot for a prospect and save a little money in return. It was well-played by the Cards. I for one am super excited to see JJ Weatherholt play for the Cards every day now that this roster spot is open, so no need to feel bad. Loving the chance to get these young guys in every day!

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  50. Baltimore_44

    1 month ago

    Cards could’ve had $45MM off the books last year if Arenado had some self awareness and thought the Astros were good enough for a declining 3B like himself.

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  51. Turd_Ferguson

    1 month ago

    Hey! A good deal for both sides! Arenado is now close to home and the Cards get some relief. Remember when the Cardinals were the model franchise? They did things according to “The Cardinal Way”? Contended every season. Whatever happened there?

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      They hadn’t developed players recently. A team that wasn’t one of the highest spending clubs in the league keeping up that kind of run for so long was impressive.

      They still haven’t been an absolute disaster. A couple games under .500 2/3 years is as bad as it’s gotten. I think they’re in a much better spot with Bloom. Mo was certainly not a competent GM any longer.

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    • cardinalnationhouston

      1 month ago

      John Mozeliak and his Clown Possy happened

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  52. Ol’ Uncle Charlie

    1 month ago

    When he was good, he was out of this world.

    Wish it could have gone differently with Nado and Goldy trying to do something great in STL, but alas, we wasted that opportunity.

    Thanks for being an epic player wearing Cardinal red and best of luck with chasing a much-deserved ring, sir.

    I’ll stand and applaud when we see you here in June.

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    • CanOKorn

      1 month ago

      Yeah that is the shame of the whole thing. In ’22 had Arenado and Goldie both at the top of MVP conversations Pujols getting center cut pitches the whole second half but didn’t get the pitching to handle the Phillies in the wild card round. Montgomery and Quintana were handy in the regular season, but not enough. If they had traded Jordan Walker(peak value) then for a pitcher instead of Bader or both for something resembling an ace. Hindsight being what it is and all…

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  53. DanD1014

    1 month ago

    Evan Longoria 2.0

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  54. Salzilla

    1 month ago

    Heck of a good deal for the D’Backs. Have away minimal really. Good for the Cards to finally get rid of his money I guess.

    Either way the Arenado saga is over. Much luck to him in Arizona.

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  55. whyhayzee

    1 month ago

    Now this is how you do it.

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  56. llokokokok

    1 month ago

    Arenado’s career has been teams paying for him to play somewhere else.

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  57. phillyballers

    1 month ago

    Sounds like there’s hope to trade Castellanos

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    • Turd_Ferguson

      1 month ago

      Maybe if they sign an outfielder, as there’s a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that’ll be a home run,

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    • cardinalnationhouston

      1 month ago

      That will never happen and thank God for that. Pay Arizona all this money just to take Arnado off our hands and then bring in a older and far worse player?

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  58. opiesy2k

    1 month ago

    Can someone inform Bloom there is other positions on a roster to fill other than Pitchers!

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    • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

      1 month ago

      The Cards weren’t going to get anything substantial in this deal. Salary dumps don’t come with preferences when begging someone to take a player off your hands.

      The Cards need everything.

      If there’s ever an excess of quality pitching, the easiest thing to do is find a trade partner for that.

      The Cards have this full rebuild season (and probably beyond to ’27) to get things sorted.

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      • die defunctorum

        1 month ago

        I’m surprised the Snakes didn’t sweeten the return to the Cardinals and ask for Romero as well. They’re in desperate need for more pitching help.

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        • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

          1 month ago

          @Die, Good point. Don’t know what the Ariz bullpen looks like, but Jojo is a strong 7th-inning guy and a pretty darn legit 8th-inning guy, too, for $4m in his last year of team control.

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  59. Badfinger

    1 month ago

    Our long national nightmare is finally over.

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    • Turd_Ferguson

      1 month ago

      Free at last, my Baby Blue.

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  60. Old York

    1 month ago

    Good riddance! Guy looks cooked. A low-K hitter who still produces negative batting run value. That’s the nightmare aging curve teams fear most.

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    • Turd_Ferguson

      1 month ago

      Arizona is a great place to retire.

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      • Old York

        1 month ago

        @Turd_Ferguson

        Far too many people retiring there now. Some other great places to retire are:

        Gregory, South Dakota
        Eureka Springs, Arkansas
        Tryon, North Carolina
        Santa Rosa, New Mexico
        Fargo, North Dakota

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        • Bendaho

          1 month ago

          Santa Rosa NM if you are addicted to methamphetamine.

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        • guilderc

          1 month ago

          Bendaho, this made me laugh out loud.

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  61. CaseyAbell

    1 month ago

    Arenado was worth 2.5 bWAR in 2024. If he can get back to that level for a couple more years, then Arizona will be more than happy. By the way, two years and five bWAR would put Arenado over sixty bWAR for his career. Which would start the HOF talk.

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    • Wilmer the Thrillmer

      1 month ago

      Arenado is a Hall of Famer already. The only question is first ballot.

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      • CaseyAbell

        1 month ago

        I dunno. It’s kinda iffy on the HOF. FanGraphs isn’t really sold on him, for instance. If he ends his career with a few decent years, then he probably gets in. If he hangs around through several bad years, well, it’s questionable.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          His WAR number would be on the low side to get in.

          If you’re looking at traditional numbers he’s similar to Scott Rolen. Lower OBP but has more home runs, similar .BA and slug. He was a 10x gold glover and 8x all star which comps favorable to 7x and 8x for Rolen.

          I think he’ll be an interesting case.

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        • CaseyAbell

          1 month ago

          Yeah, the WAR numbers are getting more important for sportswriters as the dinosaurs fall off the voter rolls. All those gold gloves will definitely count, and a couple more decent years with the bat will make the traditional stats look pretty good. I think he gets in eventually but it’s not a lock right now. The Rolen comp is a good one, though his 70 bWAR was better than what Arenado will probably end up with.

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        • Baltimore_44

          1 month ago

          WAR is going to have Rolen top him for sure. 10 gold gloves and 8 All star appearances as well as a strong 6 season peak will be arguments in his favor. (Exclude 2020 bc of obvious reasons)

          Playing in Colorado has certainly never been beneficial to anyone’s case though. It’ll take awhile if he does get in. His chances are much stronger than a guy like Longo who has roughly the same WAR number.

          I doubt he has it in him but if he managed to squeak out another 4WAR season I think that’d get him over the line.

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    • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

      1 month ago

      Small sample, but when he came back and played for a few weeks, post-shoulder rehab last year, he was hitting oppo with a lot of zip.

      I think there’s a real chance he’s got some good hitting left in the tank. And the guy works his tail off.

      Ton of upside to this deal for the right team.

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      • spudchukar

        1 month ago

        Well said.

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  62. Mikenmn

    1 month ago

    Prediction of 11 years $400M looking a tad optimistic right now, but it’s interesting his marked didn’t develop as he would have liked it to, at least for now.

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  63. Dock_Elvis

    1 month ago

    As a former professional scouting. Im intrigued by a guy who can jump from D3 to ASU and then turn that into a draft pick. Shows he’s been counted out before. I find it a little more interesting than the AZ end where they’re getting a known quantity. Looks a little like short reliever stuff – which you dont have to draft high or overpay for in the draft.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      Love the Ks. Love the difficulty to hit the kid. Obviously he has serious control problems, but you aren’t going to get a flawless prospect in a deal like this. He’s definitely intriguing compared to the nothing they could have gotten.

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      • Charlie'sSinging

        1 month ago

        I’ll amend “serious control problems” to “he walks more than you would like to see. Brandon Clarke, our #7 prospect, has serious control problems. This kid has definitely shown more control than Brandon.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        1 month ago

        The Cardinals have historically trusted their baseball people to be able to coach players. Id venture they just see the high upside of the raw stuff. Sometimes that beats the low ceiling high floor type.

        Have to add wed only be assuming they could have had other deal.

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    • seacaptain77

      1 month ago

      Ability to improve is a skill. Worth a shot!

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  64. Ghost of Orel Hersheiser

    1 month ago

    A weak transaction but still better than the Bregman deal.

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  65. goob

    1 month ago

    Obviously Arenado had to agree to this, so does that mean his NTC is voided now – meaning the Snakes themselves could trade him at some point without his permission?.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      His contract is still his contract. Unless he’s specifically choosing to write in a void of his NTC, then it still exists in his contract.

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    • CKinSTL

      1 month ago

      If I am not mistaken, he simply approved this particular transaction. He still retains his no trade rights.

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  66. desertdawg

    1 month ago

    This is just another D’Back deal they are not gambling much in contract but hoping to get a onetime lightning strike from Arenado play maybe 125 games hit around 250 a few HRs, and RBI’s, but the want is a solid glove at 3rd. Having Alexander and Lawler line up to be able to play at 3rd base, 2nd base, shortstop, and some outfield. If they can get that from Arenado I think for what the D’Backs having to pay 5 mil I say why not, it’s a good deal.

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  67. phillies1993

    1 month ago

    At two years and $11 million, Arizona is getting a good deal. I wonder if this puts a Marte trade back on the table.

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    • terry g

      1 month ago

      Why should it?

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  68. Enrico Pallazzo

    1 month ago

    This would be quite the acquisition if the year were 2019. Arenado is just a big name at this point.

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    • Charlie'sSinging

      1 month ago

      That’s the whole point of the Cards eating $26 million and the DBacks only giving up a single low level prospect.

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    • I Like Big Bunts

      1 month ago

      Missing the point entirely

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    • Dock_Elvis

      1 month ago

      Saw Arenado play in SF a couple years ago and I was aghast how slow his bat had gotten.

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  69. HalosHeavenJJ

    1 month ago

    Should be a really strong defensive infield for Arizona.

    Get some ground ball pitchers and feed those guys.

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  70. Bounty Hunters IA

    1 month ago

    Congrats to Nolan for finally agreeing to get off that sinking ship in cesspool east Missouri!! I can respect him as a player and person again now.

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  71. msqboxer

    1 month ago

    $11M Cards eat the rest….AZ GM is a shoe in for GM of the year!

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 month ago

      “shoo in”

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  72. JuanUribeJazzHands

    1 month ago

    I just traded for him a few days ago in Baseball Mogul

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  73. JR. White Rat

    1 month ago

    Cardinals aren’t cheap, nope infact they’re paying over 50 million dollars for our former players to play on other mlb teams. Now that’s smart money ball baby.

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  74. Mark66

    1 month ago

    Artie Moreno is so pissed about this he’s going to demand his FO make five more iron league signings just to make up for it. The heir apparent to the Rendón era remains unknown.

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  75. Datashark

    1 month ago

    If you cannot get a solid play in Free Agency, its time to get after a named brand player in declining years.

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    • I Like Big Bunts

      1 month ago

      At $11 mil, you’d be wrong not to.

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  76. CanOKorn

    1 month ago

    Stl pitchers will miss having even the aged version of Arenado at third over Gorman. I hope Nado finds a groove in the desert and makes this trade look like a steal. For the Cards though it saves some cash and opens the roster spot and prevents having to release a probable HOF player outright if the decline continued this season. Really is a win win and hope it works out for both teams. Nolan could have hit .280 with 30 dingers and the birds would still not benefit other than additional salary relief once he was traded later.

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  77. 'Tang It

    1 month ago

    Arenado is pretty washed now, but that’s a good move for Arizona. Costs them very little and Arizona is a good place to hit.

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  78. CaseyAbell

    1 month ago

    “Arizona is a Southern California native with a home in Arizona.”

    Arizona must have moved. Oh well, it won’t be the last time the two names get mixed up.

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    • seacaptain77

      1 month ago

      Basic plate tectonics

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  79. Angels & NL West

    1 month ago

    Sounds like Arrenados defense is still solid and, historically, he has hit LHP well. Problem is his potential platoon partners at 3B, Alexander and Lawler, both hit RH, as well. If he platoons at 1B with Smith, you lose much of Arrenados defensive value. Is he the everyday (120+ games) 3B?

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    • I Like Big Bunts

      1 month ago

      He won’t play first at all

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    • Lanidrac

      1 month ago

      Of course he’s still an everyday player at 3B, since his bat should rebound now that he’s healthy again.

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  80. mrpadre19

    1 month ago

    $30 million to improve the return and they got an eighth round middle reliever with a 5+ ERA?

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      The pitcher has no professional experience at all so I’m not sure that his college ERA means anything.

      We haven’t seen him on a pro mound but he’s obviously a complete lotto ticket. This is what Arenado was worth so that’s what they had to eat. It was that or he sucks up a roster spot that was going to a young player. It was time to go & it’s unfortunate he blew up the deal to Houston. That would’ve gotten the Cards out in a good spot.

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  81. I Like Big Bunts

    1 month ago

    At $11 mil? That’s a great deal for ARI.

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  82. DolemiteisMyname

    1 month ago

    AZ will flip him to the Angels. You read it here first

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  83. Dock_Elvis

    1 month ago

    Kind of thought Arenado smelled like an Angels move. But it’s a solid vet deal for AZ. Just have to think of him a little like the Cubs version of Gary Gaetti.

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  84. CKinSTL

    1 month ago

    Wow… Despite the rebuild, I think I would just rather have Arenado around. If nothing else, he is just a recognizable name for the fans to come out and see.

    But I could see if Arenado wanted out at this point and this was both a cost-savings measure and a courtesy to the player.

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    • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

      1 month ago

      We need the spot in the order and on the diamond. It’s a rebuild — the sooner we give opportunities to young players, the sooner the Cards can play winning baseball again.

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      • DolemiteisMyname

        1 month ago

        @ol Uncle Have you taken Chip and Ernie to a game?

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        • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

          1 month ago

          Both promising young pitchers! Good kids!

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        • DolemiteisMyname

          1 month ago

          Promising you png kids they’re in their 60’either or they’re dead. Tina Cole is still alive.
          Q . Why were you always in a bad mood.??

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    • Dock_Elvis

      1 month ago

      CKinSTL – that’s a reasonable take. But sometimes its also time to clear the deck and not allow a veteran to become morose in the clubhouse potentially. Out of respect it’s sometimes good to deal a guy to a contender for another chance at a ring

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  85. los_leebos

    1 month ago

    Not glad to see him back in the NL West, but glad he is a much worse player than the last time he was in the NL West.

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  86. SupremeZeus

    1 month ago

    Inexpensive for the snakes, but Arenado appeared to be decling rapidly and had little value. Essentially a 1 year deal because 2027 is cooked. Maybe a change of scenery from the death march in STL will put a little pep in his step.

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  87. WillBaseball

    1 month ago

    Very few short years ago, Arenado was well on track for a modern hall of fame career. 3b still has the least amount of HOF inductees than any other position. Is this still possible? Why? Why not? I think if he can just keep stacking at any rate through the contract after this one, he makes it.

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  88. Boazona

    1 month ago

    “Beyond that, Arizona is a Southern California native with a home in Arizona.”

    FYI on typo. I think author meant “Arenado”, not “Arizona.”

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  89. Lanidrac

    1 month ago

    It’s still not a salary dump. The Cardinals could’ve paid Arenado’s entire salary for the next two years (save for the $5M from the Rockies) without any problems, and they’re still on the hook for most of it.

    It’s more about clearing up their position player logjam that they began with the Contreras trade. Now that have 3B open for possibly Weatherholt (if not at 2B), Gorman, Saggese, or maybe even Donovan if he’s not traded himself.

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  90. Ghost of hermanfranks

    1 month ago

    Hazen with his signature third base move that defines his style.

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  91. dasit

    1 month ago

    hope perdomo gets to play in a major market at some point guy is incredible on both sides of the ball and the clubhouse

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  92. Luke Strong

    1 month ago

    Arenado is a bench player at best. He is now playing below replacement level. His power is largely sapped, he has no speed, adequate glove still but not valuable enough bat to justify playing him with regularity. I won’t be surprised if AZ releases him before the end of the season.

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    • Lanidrac

      1 month ago

      …someone else who forgot Arenado was playing hurt for an entire month last year. He’s still easily a 2+ WAR player now that he’s healthy again.

      Besides, even with his poor overall offense numbers last year, he was still worth 1.3 bWAR and 0.9 fWAR thanks to his defense, not exactly below replacement level like you claimed.

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  93. ArianaGrandSlam

    1 month ago

    Future hall of famer with no MVP title, very unfortunate.

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  94. Oldhalo

    1 month ago

    Surprised that the Angels didn’t do this or similar but I’m glad they didnt.

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  95. nookster

    1 month ago

    Insert: “3yrs ago a salary dump would’ve been hard to imagine”, to any current long deal of your choice.

    Reply
  96. Michael Can Fart? Oh!

    1 month ago

    Wow, so dude is getting paychecks from 3 teams at once? I wonder if that’s a record, I don’t think even Edwin Jackson or Rich Hill can claim that!

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  97. socraticgadfly

    1 month ago

    Lots of fans on the Cardinals’ subreddit continue the lovefest for new president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom, saying he’s getting things done that John Mozeliak couldn’t.

    Well, first, all three players had one more year left on contracts a year ago.

    Second, especially with Arenado, when it became clear a full rebuild was ahead, he lowered his standards on what other teams he would accept trades to.

    Third and most relevant, Mo wasn’t bribing other teams to the degree Bloom is.

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    • Baltimore_44

      1 month ago

      Mo is also the reason everything was so inflexible. NTC to Gray & he accepted Arenado’s NTC in the deal.

      Fair though. If Bloom cashes in on Donovan then I’ll say he’s done a very nice job accomplishing what he needs to.

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  98. Motor City Beach Bum

    1 month ago

    Glad Detroit didn’t go there.

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    • The Saber-toothed Superfife

      1 month ago

      Not me.
      Something like Vierling, Meadows, Horn for Arrenado, Doyle and Clarke.

      Let the Cardinals’ owner be aware of the financial figures involved. Illich would be the one not to want to but they need.a.system of constant recharge, not.this sprint and expire system they pursue.
      Let them keep their money.
      (The object being to get pitching prospects Doyle and Clarke)

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        1 month ago

        Oh
        ..and they must include Tink Hence.
        Tink.Hence.must.be included…..because that’s a lot of money.

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        • stan lee the manly

          1 month ago

          May as well just add Donovan, JoJo, Busch Stadium, and the Birds on the Bat logo to the trade too since that $26 mil is so gosh darn valuable

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          1 month ago

          Good idea! You’re hired!

          Reply
  99. spudchukar

    1 month ago

    My heart bleeds. The greatest defensive third baseman l have ever seen. He was one of the grittiest players I have ever luckiest to have seen. Thanks for the memories. Hope you get a chance to show your stuff in the waining years. Watching you was a joy.

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  100. sacrifice

    1 month ago

    would Brendan Donovan to the Giants make sense?

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    • spudchukar

      1 month ago

      I don’t think they will pay what he is worth. It would take one or two of your Best pitching prospects. Cards hold the cards. They don’t have to move him. He doesn’t make that much money

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      • oldgfan

        4 weeks ago

        Casey Schmitt fills the 3B position….
        Natural position, young and on the upswing in his development.

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  101. Erebus

    1 month ago

    Horrible move Arizona. Arenado is a shell of his former self. Pretty close to a replacement player

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  102. PeteRose’s Bookie

    1 month ago

    Say what you will he’s still a better 3rd baseman than Anthony Rendon.

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  103. Ken Card

    1 month ago

    I which him nothing but the best. He played hurt most of the year. I hope he has a bounce back year. He’s still an above average fielder. The Snakes have to pay $ 11 million over two years. It’s worth a chance. It was a pleasure watching him in the Lou…

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  104. brucenewton

    1 month ago

    Chase Field is basically Coors south. Arenado probably makes the all star team.

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  105. kcmowhoa

    1 month ago

    Arizona is a South California native with a home in Arizona. Wow

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  106. mil

    1 month ago

    Arenado has been battling injuries for the past couple of years. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if had a resurgence in Arizona. He loves to play and will be driven to prove he’s still got something left. Good luck Nolan!!

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  107. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    1 month ago

    $26M passed on to the fans.
    Not the right way to operate.

    Doyle and Clarke to the Tigers saves you A LOT of money and gets something decent back.

    BUT WHY BOTHER?
    You can just off the cost of.bad business practices on to the stupid fan, who you have no respect for….
    Hey…it’s a monopoly anyways…so who cares?????

    Do not like Emmas’ take. Opportunity MISSED.

    On both sides.

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    • Chin Muzak

      1 month ago

      so will the fans will pay more for concessions parking admission or TV this year? haven’t read about any increases yet in STL.

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    • stan lee the manly

      1 month ago

      So your argument is that, in a year in which the Cardinals are DESPERATE to rebuild their pitching-starved farm system (which is a goal they have publicly stated a bunch of times), they should have traded 2 of their 3 best pitching prospects just to save money in a year in which the money won’t matter because they aren’t going to be competitive?

      What in the world is this take?

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        1 month ago

        So, all of the sudden it’s not a business? Prices have already risen and will do so again in the near future because of this type of business activity.
        I mention it as an alternative. Yes. I want the Tigers to “buy” those very same prospects.
        I am proposing, “temp the owner with ~$30M more profit”.

        And it’s not.like the Tigers can’t send something worthwhile back.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          1 month ago

          The Tigers could turn around and trade those guys w/$ to get even more prospects like trading him to AZ or Autryville.

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        • stan lee the manly

          4 weeks ago

          If you can’t see why making that move would be the absolute dumbest thing the Cardinals could do with their offseason, I’m not sure what to tell you. There is a less than 0% chance any team in the majors would do this.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          4 weeks ago

          Not if the owner wants $30M.

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  108. AI GM

    1 month ago

    A+ Arizona. A lot of star power for the $. Glove still plays. Not a black hole at plate. Should get their $ worth.

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    • Chin Muzak

      1 month ago

      good for AZ but not A+.

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  109. YellowCleats

    1 month ago

    He needs a Tom Brady style diet plan and LeBron James style weight training, he’s 35 playing like a 40 year old

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  110. Champs64

    1 month ago

    The Cardinals are on a path to pay more for players who now play for other teams than the roster they will field.

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  111. LetTheGoodTimesROFL

    1 month ago

    In the end this trade is going to be a fart in the wind

    Reply
  112. SuperDuper

    1 month ago

    Great news for the Dbacks!

    Reply
  113. FrankRoo

    1 month ago

    2/$11M seems like a great deal.

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  114. Oppo nacho

    1 month ago

    I bet he has big year playing for them

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  115. Davehuckleberry55

    1 month ago

    Arizona is a Southern California native with a home in Arizona???????????????????????

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  116. Quinnap89

    1 month ago

    Thank you Arizona! Arenado would have been a bad pivot from Bregman

    Reply
  117. oscar gamble

    1 month ago

    Great first line of the story Steve Adams!

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  118. Goose

    1 month ago

    Bloom has done his best in a tear down and rebuild. See what they have in the kids and try to get going the other way. From hearing from STL media it sounds like the only mistake Bloom has made is he put a Ketel Marte trade price on Donovan. Donovan is a good player but you are not getting top prospect for him.

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  119. AGS

    1 month ago

    Arenado’s decline is really confusing—ages 32 to 34 aren’t considered old for most players. If this trend continues, he may even be at risk of being released by June.

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  120. bpskelly

    1 month ago

    The issue isn’t the money. It’s the money AND not getting anything back in return. A late round draft pick who will never see the majors?

    That tells me Cardinals ownership simply wants to strip things down to the studs and hope for the best.

    This is going to be the first 100 loss Cardinals team in over a hundred years.

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    • Champs64

      4 weeks ago

      I think you are right about the team may lose over 100 games this coming season. I have never been so less enthusiastic about a new season of baseball. I think we will see Fredbird as the face of the franchise.

      Reply
  121. Web's #2

    4 weeks ago

    Arenado lives and has a workout facility a few miles from where he grew up in Orange County. He has family in Arizona. He does not own a home in Arizona nor does he live there.

    Reply
  122. GO1962

    4 weeks ago

    Congratulations to the Diamondbacks on their addition of Nolan Arenado. Nolan is a class act who will make the team better..

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  123. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    4 weeks ago

    There shouldn’t be a comma before “too.”

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