With most of Chicago focused on the Cardiac Bears Saturday night, the Cubs attempted to steal a little bit of the spotlight by agreeing to a five-year, $175MM contract with free agent Alex Bregman. In doing so, the Cubs land MLBTR’s fifth-ranked free agent to take over at the hot corner.
Bregman, a client of the Boras Corporation, bests the contract offers he received last offseason. His new contract, the third-largest in Cubs history, includes a no-trade clause but lacks opt-outs.
When last offseason’s proposals fell short of Bregman’s expectations, he pivoted to a heavily-deferred three-year, $120MM deal with the Red Sox. The quality of his 2025 season, plus his ineligibility for a qualifying offer this time around, led to this long-term deal.
MLBTR projected a six-year, $160MM contract for Bregman back in November, which he managed to top on a five-year term. Though a sixth year would’ve been a rarity for a player set to turn 32 in March, the five-year length results in a hefty $35MM average annual value. That’s easily the highest AAV in Cubs history, and it’s tied for 14th all-time.
For the Cubs, the addition of Bregman is the biggest splash in an active offseason. The club acquired young starter Edward Cabrera from the Marlins three days ago, adding upside to the rotation at the expense of a top-50 prospect in Owen Caissie. The Cubs have largely rebuilt their bullpen with a quintet of free agent signings: Phil Maton, Hunter Harvey, Caleb Thielbar, Hoby Milner, and Jacob Webb. They also retained swingman Colin Rea and starter Shota Imanaga.
Bregman gives the Cubs a major offensive upgrade without the loss of a draft pick, as he rejected a qualifying offer from the Astros in 2024. His salary brings the team’s projected 2026 payroll to $231MM, a full $25MM over last year’s $206MM figure, according to RosterResource. Meanwhile, their CBT payroll stands at $247.6MM for 2026, putting the Cubs $3.6MM above the first luxury tax threshold. The Cubs did not exceed the CBT in 2025, so they’ll reside in the lightest tax bracket if they stay over in ’26.
Bregman, 31, played in 114 games with Boston this year, making 495 plate appearances. Although he missed a month and a half with a right quad strain, he continued to excel on offense, batting .273/.360/.462 and grading out 25% better than average by wRC+. After posting a career-low 6.9% walk rate in his final year with the Astros, Bregman bumped that up to 10.3% in 2025. He maintained his reputation as a high-contact hitter, with his 14.1% strikeout rate grading out in the 88th percentile. His 90.1 mph average exit velocity and 44.4% hard-hit rate were both career bests. He also continued to perform well defensively, earning 3 Outs Above Average for his work at third base. Overall, Bregman’s 2025 contributions were good for 3.5 fWAR and his third career All-Star nomination.
A lot of that came from his red-hot first two months. At the time of his injury, Bregman had a 156 wRC+ through 226 PA. His production following his return was more uneven. He posted a 128 wRC+ in July, followed by a 108 wRC+ in August and just a 76 wRC+ in September. In the first half, Bregman was 52% better than average by wRC+. In the second half, he was right around average.
Though he wasn’t his usual self in the last two months of the year, Bregman’s lengthy track record still made him one of the top free agents in this year’s class. Since debuting with the Astros in 2016, he has batted .272/.365/.481 with 209 home runs and a 133 wRC+. His first two All-Star appearances came in 2018-19. Bregman averaged 8.1 fWAR and finished in the Top 5 in AL MVP voting in both years, finishing as the runner-up in 2019.
While he hasn’t reached those heights in the years since, Bregman has still been a well-above-average hitter. He has posted a wRC+ between 117 and 137 in every year from 2020-25. Bregman’s defense has also held firm. Since the start of 2020, he has been worth 10 DRS and 17 OAA. He ranks eighth among qualified third basemen in that span by OAA.
That track record, Bregman’s excellent clubhouse reputation, and his still-excellent 2025 drew ample interest in free agency. The Red Sox were clearly keen on a reunion, with recent reports indicating they had made him an “aggressive” offer. Outside of them and the Cubs, his known suitors included the Tigers, Diamondbacks, and Blue Jays (before they signed Kazuma Okamoto). The Tigers and Cubs were interested in Bregman last offseason as well. Detroit reportedly offered him six years and $171.5MM, albeit with significant deferrals. Chicago’s offer was in the four-year, $115MM range. One year later, the Cubs committed an additional $60MM to lock Bregman up.
Bregman likely sought a $200MM guarantee during the 2024-25 offseason, and even accounting for the deferred money in this year’s $40MM salary, the straight $175MM from the Cubs means he’s cleared that bar. It’s a strategy we’ve seen Boras execute successfully with Bregman, Blake Snell, Matt Chapman, and Pete Alonso in recent years, with Cody Bellinger serving as the next test case.
With Bregman slotting in at third base, the most impacted player on the Cubs’ roster is incumbent third baseman Matt Shaw. As a rookie, Shaw posted a .226/.295/.394 line in 437 plate appearances, good for a 93 wRC+. Factoring in his serviceable defense (-1 DRS), Shaw was worth 1.5 fWAR in 2025. That was acceptable production for the rookie and former top prospect, though there are clear areas for improvement heading into his sophomore season. Shaw’s average exit velocity and hard-hit rate ranked in the third and seventh percentiles, respectively. He also struggled against fastballs, with a -6 run value against sinkers and a -1 value against four-seamers.
Shaw came up through the system as a middle infielder before shifting to third base in earnest in 2024. At present, Dansby Swanson and Nico Hoerner occupy the shortstop and second base spots on the big-league roster. Swanson is under contract through 2029 and won’t be moving off short any time soon. Hoerner has been an above-average hitter and excellent defender in the past four seasons, tallying 17.5 fWAR. Hoerner moved to second base in 2023 in deference to Swanson.
With the 28-year-old Hoerner eligible for free agency after 2026 – with earning power likely to get a boost from his ability to play shortstop – his name has surfaced in trade rumors this winter. The best 2026 Cubs team has Hoerner at second base and Shaw in a utility infield role, but it’s at least conceivable that either player could be dealt this offseason.
For Red Sox fans, the past seven months have provided a painful sequence of events at third base. Rafael Devers was dealt to the Giants in a surprise June blockbuster, and now Bregman has departed as well. The Red Sox, the only team yet to have signed a Major League free agent this winter, could turn to Bo Bichette if they don’t consider Marcelo Mayer sufficient at third. Bichette has never played third base, however, and chief baseball officer Craig Breslow has yet to sign a free agent for more than Bregman’s three years (which only lasted one).
Jon Heyman of the New York Post first broke news of the signing, with ESPN’s Jeff Passan adding terms and Bob Nightengale of USA Today providing further details.


Overpay
Haha 100%
Yes, an overpay. I hope they keep Hoerner for 2026 and make their best run at post-season success. Shaw can move to 2B or outfield in 2027.
This should put all that Bellinger is coming back to the Cubs talk to rest, no?
I hope they keep Hoerner around, too. This should push them really close to the CBT line, if not over. Maybe Ricketts will allow a small tax this year. They do need a utility infielder. So, maybe Shaw can be a super one this year.
Aloha MLB100, don’t like this move. Overpay and watch Jed trade away Nico or Shaw now. His excuse to trade Nico will be the budget having to go under the CBT threshold but he’s the one that overpay Bregman. Mahalo
Kgcubs
They will never trade Shaw unless they first sign Nico to an extension.
They might trade Nico now. Or they could keep him and let him be a free agent at the end of the year.
Good point. I really wanted to see both Shaw and Caissie in the field this year, now it’s not happening. Well, I hope for the best. Mahalo
Yes. Likely.
Agree KG. I have always been a fan of our GM. I think this is a huge mistake. Swanson and Bregman both aging Super Stars will hurt come 2027 or 28. But fans will be happy money was spent and more than likely wasted once again.
I wouldn’t mind if they traded Shaw now, for a young catcher.
I’m hoping that Bregman could be the type of hitter who fits well in Wrigley. Now they’ll have 3 decent RH bats in the daily lineup too – Hoerner, Suzuki and Bregman. To go with Busch, PCA and Ballesteros.
I’d hit Happ 7th against RHers and put him on the bench vs LHers.
It said in the article that it pushed them 3.6M over thr 244M first luxury tax number.
They better extend Nico. 90mil of that 175 should be Nico’s
Their next move needs to be to extend Nico Hoerner
I think this is an awesome move. A funny thing is Bregman wears #2 because he felt slighted going in the draft second behind Swanson, now he plays next to him.
Dogbone
I would like to keep Shaw at least until Hoerner is extended, which might not happen – which will be a huge loss
Wonder who will wear #2 next year..? That’s Nico’s number…
Bergman will change his number to # 175.
🤣🤣🤣
Bregman is gonna need to pick a new number
DavRoz
Now Belli will want Bregman money
Instead of Bregman on his jersey it’ll be 175 Million in Roman numberals $CLXXVM 😂
Cody Bellinger has every right to demand Bregman money or more. He had a better year last season, comes with more defensive versatility as a CF, RF, 1B and is also 16 months younger.
I like both players very much as an elder, more traditional MLB fan who prefers hitters with a more balanced profile than today’s three outcome sluggers. Bregman and Bellinger are very similar in their ability as high contact hitters who excel in BA and OBP while also producing solid pop along with their plus gloves. I’m glad the Cubs were able to secure one of them this offseason.
My hope is they also retain and extend 2B Nico Hoerner. The Cubs will have multiple starters in their walk year (Ian Happ, Seiya Suzuki, Hoerner) and Nico is my top player to retain. As things stand now, the team will have significant money coming off their books following this season. Signing Bregman and extending Hoerner will important if the Cubs want to maintain their identity as MLB’s top defensive team going forward.
Good, drive up the Yankees’ price for Bellinger
Ballesteros is going to be one of the better hitting catchers in MLB. Amaya is usually solid as well. I’d rather keep Shaw.
200% Lol
Haha, there has to be a less embarrassing way to admit you wanted your team to sign him. “overpay” lol, same tired loser response every time a stud player signs with any other team. He got what the market projected and the Cubs are flush with cash.
The name of the game this offseason. Look at Cease
Maybe. But truly cannot compare position players to pitchers. Especially one as good as Cease. Now if we are talking position players, I’m a bigger fan of Bregman than Alonso as a player – but the Alonso signing made much more sense than this.
Curious if you think King was an overpay.
Cease was a below average pitcher last year and 2 of the last 3 seasons. Strikes out a lot of guys and is durable but that’s still a big overpay for those numbers
Aside from strikeouts, Cease is barely above average. He hasn’t been “that guy”, since 2022.
His ERA+ was 94 last year. 100 is league average. Thats his worst since becoming a full-time starter. In 2023 he was just behind that, at 97. In the sandwich hear he was over 110 so he was pretty decent.
Cease is a #2 at best, not an ace, but for paid like and ace. Both were overpays, but I find Cease to be the bigger overpay given his more recent track record. Bregman provides what many teams value more than analysts, consistency on both offense and defense. The problem is how will he age. Can he play above average 3B for 5 years? Big questions.
Folks keep talking about Cease. He has been just average in 2023
Then you take Pete Walker and he takes the mistakes that Cease has been making and put in his stuff…he is going to be lights out this year…the Jays pitching staff od looking alot better than the most..And paying Bregman that..Bo is gone..There is no way they are paying 30 million plus for a guy who cannot stay healthy and is verry poor on defense
And 2024.
I agree he’s a number #2 when he’s on, but aces tend to command more than $30m/year
joshb600: Cease and desist.
In line with the Alonso and Schwarber deals, that’s the going rate this winter.
In line with Schwarber deal for a drastically less talented player
Dramatically differently-talented player?
Absolutely. Can you imagine what Schwarber would have done at Wrigley in 81 games. Huge overpay on Bregman
Bregman plays 3B. If he puts up 4-5 WAR consistently it’s not a bad sign, but he could also be Jason Heyward.
This possibly means Hoerner gets traded and Shaw slides over to 2B, which I don’t think is a bad move if it brings back controllable pitching.
Agreed. At this price point knowing how Henry will limit Breslow’s hand in future moves, I’m glad Boston didn’t re-sign him. Bichette now has one less team but much more leverage on both years and AAV.
Ridiculous statement. Schwarber and Bregman are completely different players.
You have to overpay for the superstars. This is the first time the cubs have sacked up and done it. Way to go Jed!
Is Bregman a superstar?
Not at all lol
In the hall of cheaters he is a massive superstar.
Super Star, Star, difference maker whatever you want to call him. Those players come with a premium.
He thinks like he is.
No he is not. Good solid player but not for that price.
He’s valued big time but two leg injuries in three years worries me and is why in my book, this is a huge overpay.
Enjoy the solid first half. If you didn’t like tuckers 2nd half this year you’ll hate Bregman completely fading and seeing your tribune calling for Shaw to take over.
Superstars, sure. Bregman and Cease however don’t sell tickets; they are stars but lacking the super part. That saying from the Incredibles – when everyone is special, no one will be – has come true…
Bregman sells tickets. Just look at the increase in Boston after signing him.
While Bregman was good with the young players, I don’t recall him ever stepping into the ticket window to sell tickets…
Ricketts finally opening the checkbook will bring fans in. After passing on Imai on a reasonable deal fans were getting a bit fed up. Fans want winners and there’s another window here the next couple years to make a run at it.
People paid to see Bregman. Ticket sales increased after he was signed.
Wrigley was gonna sell out regardless if they overpaid for Bregman. Which unfortunately they did. This is the one move I absolutely did not want to see.
Roman and Crochet sold tickets, not Bregman.
Winning sells tickets.
Youre right – you do overpay superstars , but at this juncture in his career and going forward, Bregman isn’t one – unlike Soto or Shohei. He is a solid to good 3B for,normally, 2 seasons . It’s the year 3-5 ones which will be costly as he will have to shift off 3B to more than likely DH.
But it does give the Cubs a 2 year window to be a top tier competitor .
Speechless
Concur
So you prefer owners not spending money?
No i prefer a GM spending 20m on a top notch starter and 15m on a bat
20 million for a top notch starter was 10 years ago. 20 million in today’s money gets you Yusei Kikuchi.
Won’t truly know till the contract is over. If he can get back to being a 4.5 WAR player then it’s a fair contract.
If he is a 4.0 WAR player, he is providing $5 million or more surplus value on a $35 million AAV.
Here we go with $/WAR nonsense…as if you could ever build a winner spending according to that absurd calculation.
Andrew Friedman: “If you’re always rational about every free agent, you will finish third on every free agent.”
By definition, its what he is worth on the market. Or don’t you know how free agency works?
Andrew Friedman: “If you’re always rational about every free agent, you will finish third on every free agent.”
Did he say that when he ran the Rays or the Dodgers?
Big time player agents just love hearing nonsense like that.
Yea this is a terrible deal. Props to the agent.
As a Cubs fan I’m loving this!
It’s only money dip$***!
Added an all star and made themselves a better team. Only people who are jealous dis this.
Plus a 5 year no trade clause.
I’m so happy he didn’t go to Detroit on a similar deal. What an awful contract Chicago just gave him..
I would have bet my house on Boston re-signing Bregman. Boston now has to focus 100% of its attention on Bo Bichette. Pay him whatever he wants for as long as he wants. Breslow & John Henry thought they could wait out Bregman and get him for 5/$150M or less, only to see the ‘low spending’ Cubs absolutely embarrass them on a national stage. I’m disgusted by Boston’s leadership.
If the Red Sox lose out on Bichette, they’ll be forced to overpay Geno Suarez and his 35% K-rate, not to mention Suarez’s defense is worse than Devers at 3B. I find it hard to blame Breslow solely for this; he has been ‘hard-capped’ by Henry. Wait until John Henry sees the negative publicity this will bring the team over the next few days. He’ll be forced to either open his wallet for Bichette or be forced by his FSG partners to consider selling the franchise as he will become public enemy #1 here in Boston.
Congratulations to the Cubs on a great signing, and I guess I’m happy the Yankees or the Blue Jays didn’t sign him. Boston has one legitimate move left (Bichette) and they’d better not screw this one up either.
What do you think of trading Duran for Hoerner or Shaw?
I think the Cubs would not do that. Now Jac Caglione for Hoerner would be something else. lol
It really depends on what else is coming along with Hoerner or Shaw.
An optimistic look at Hoerner puts him on par with Duran, but he only has 1 year of control remaining, so it’s hard to see him as the centerpiece in a Duran deal (Duran has 3 years of control remaining). I like the idea of Shaw, but he’s a free swinger who’s power was lacking last year. I’d want to see the Red Sox acquire another player like Suarez if this was the move – then he’d be a part-time starter behind Mayer/Suarez.
Bichette isnt a legitimate move.
They need DEFENSE on the left side of the infield, not another DH who stands on the field.
The glove at third is not the problem as Bichette would take over second with Mayer installed at third. As for Dorothy’s comment, this is one time I agree with Boston’s management. Bregman’s leg is a long term concern and this is a huge over pay.
I’m not understanding this deal. It’s a huge overpay. I’m curious how it puts pressure on and moves the rest of the FA and trade markets? As a Mariner’s fan, I sure hope this means Nick Hoerner is more likely to be dealt. He’d for so well at the top of our lineup.
Thank you Cubs, for getting him off the table before Arte Moreno could offer 8 /$250M.
Big time overpay.
Better than the pathetically cheap POS Red Sox. Red Sox fans gas lit again that the Sox would be aggressive. They “tried really hard” but signed nobody
What? Whoa
5/175 wow
Big strike, huge for the Cubbies
Huge if you’re a cubs fan that isn’t that interested in long term success
Money is coming off the books. Imanaga, Suzuki, Happ, Hoerner, Taillon, Boyd all likely gone next year. This is a win now move that replaces someone like Happ or Hoerner once they leave. Teams were obviously willing to get near $175M so it’s odd for us as fans to claim overpay. Seems the market is a bit inflated.
That’s what a knob who knows nothing about baseball says.
Hilarious, if the Red Sox would’ve retained him on similar deal it would’ve been acceptable as them being aggressive to keep him. When the Blue Jays over spend on a future DH they are applauded, also when they sign a mid rotation guy with great stuff for $200M, then some nobody from NPB.
When the Cubs are FINALLY aggressive and spend after being mocked by every baseball writer in the country, they get bashed for over-spending.
I’ll be honest, Bregman wouldn’t have been my choice, as I believe given the chance, Shaw could produce at a similar level next season. But I am happy to see the Cubs finally acting as though they want to win.
I didn’t like the Dansby signing as I think Nico could’ve handled SS and they could’ve found an offensive player to man 2B, but acquiring winners is never a bad thing. I expect the Cubs will look to trade someone or at minimum let Nico walk next offseason and have Shaw takeover at 2B. Id rather have Tucker in RF and let Seiya/Happ walk next offseason with Ballesteros at DH, but regardless the Cubs are better tomorrow than they were today.
@Robert-5
I’m constantly amazed by how many fans embrace teams who “act” like they want to win, whether they do or not.
It’s absurd. There’s no virtue in action for action’s sake. There’s only smart moves and dumb moves. And this one is decidedly on the dumb side of the ledger.
The Cubs can afford to sign Tucker.
what does long term success even mean? so if they don’t sign him, they probably continue with long term unsuccess… no difference.
How about those Reds?
Sjwil1 the Reds surely wouldn’t make a frivolous move like this – but what’s crazy is that not even the Mets would touch an overpay like this. Hope it works out!
Heck the Reds wouldn’t make a move anyway. Tito isn’t going to win the WS by himself.
@Big Red, Hard to look at this as a negative for the Cubs, this is a nice topper to an aggressive offseason. It’s only 5 years till 36 so the downside is limited.
wow overpay honestly
That’s the way it’s going this offseason. Look at Cease
Cease got the reliable pay. With deferrals hits like $26 mil a season. Reasonable with the cost of pitching.
Maybe if cease was good… he’s just average, who might shine for a game or two.
Wow button..
👇👇👇
Good for him
Stay away from Bichette and Tucker Boston.
Saurez is your fit.
Pass
Suarez is returning to Seattle
Gawd,I hope not.Ms need someone who can hit over the Mendoza Line.Mastrobuoni has more potential,if given a chance.
Are you insane?
Looked awful two years ago and after the return. He simply does not see the ball in Seattle.
Red Sox will move Mayer to 3B and pray.
Boston Bo
Kodion- lord I hope not. Of all the available free agents for the infield, the one id want least on my team is bichette.
GASoxFan
Rest assured, I don’t want to see him in Boston. If he’s not going back to the Jays, I would rather see him go to the
Phillies … or even the Dodgers!!
@GASoxFan,
Hey, I’m on my way to the legal recreational weed store nearby in Redwood City, California. Can I pick anything up for you while I’m there?
Bart- LOL… unless they’ve got some sanity on the rack, or, some kind of Wiccan group next door that can channel Larry lucchino’s spirit to possess John Henry, im probably good!
This big ol’ country and it sounds like I’m only about four hours away from the bad boy of the Baby of the Year competition?
I can recommend the mango sativa gummies! It’s easier on the lungs than smoking a spliff.
GA, Bichette will hit a ton in Fenway. Unfortunately, I don’t see Sox ownership getting it done. Another trade or two is more likely. If the DH slot gets opened, Suarez becomes a fit but not at third. Mayer gets his shot.
Marcello has that no problem
That’s EXACTLY where we are headed. Then Trade & extend Skubal. Keep leading MLB the next 2 decades like the last 2.
@BetterMuppet – Suarez is a terrible fit in Boston. His strikeout rate is far too high, his contact rate is far too low and his defense at 3B is bottom 10 in MLB. The only ‘attractive’ side of Suarez is that he can be had for a 2-3 year deal and not 5+ years Bregman & Bichette require.
Bichette is a perfect fit in Boston. He’s a RHH with great strikeout rates (under 20% consistently), he’s an extra base hit machine and he will plug a huge hole at 2B defensively in Boston. He’s quite young too, so you’ll get 4-5 years of prime Bichette and if the contract is priced correctly, he’ll only be 35 or 36 years old by the time this contract expires. With his immediate move to 2B, there are no concerns over his defensive range at SS or possible arm strength at 3B. The Sox have those spots covered anyways by Mayer, Story and Arias / Soto.
Red Sox – Lock Bichette up immediately!!!
Dorothy – Story is actually better suited to 2B than SS already, and, Mayer is showing the same durability problems as his minor league career – season ending injuries in each fo his first 4 seasons.
Arias is something to hope for, but, left side of the infield remains a mess for boston.
Id rather not see Bichette come to town, but, also pray nobody from StL is looked at as the answer either. The irony is bichette is one of the very very few SS who played worse in a large sample than story from a defensive standpoint.
What does Story’s metrics look like if you remove September? I’m not a metrics’ person but from the eye, he looked different in September and perhaps it was fatigue given he hadn’t played a full season in years.
Why would the Red Sox pay someone nearly as much as Devers who is not as good? If they were smart enough to let Bregman sign with the Cubs for that amount, they aren’t dumb enough to sign Suarez.
Its starting to look like Mayer at 3B, Story at SS, Campbell/Romy at 2B, Contreras at 1B.
Which, is far preferable than adding Bichette or arenado to the mix.
I think Rafaela gets more infield time than expected. Not ideal, but keeps everyone’s bat in the lineup. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the starting 2B. Casas in AAA, Yoshida at DH. I’d like Bichette, but John Henry isn’t green lighting any contracts longer that 4 years imo.
Fenway, years and AAV.
Good move for cubs…
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A 5 WAR third baseman? That’s a funny signing to you?
Prob more of a 3-4 fWAR guy these days but sure
Semantics but he hasn’t put up 5 WAR since 2022. Congrats, regardless. Cubs making moves.
3-4 WAR guy that also recently had injuries and is a small body which does not combine well with bat speed
Don’t get me wrong I love bregman as a player but he does not deserve to make more per year than guys like Jose Ramirez
Ramirez signed an incredibly team-friendly deal. There are many less deserving guys making more than him.
This is a good deal for Chicago. 3rd base is a thin position all over MLB so the overpay is justified for a clubhouse leader who is exceptional defensively and rock solid offensively.
Besides two seasons in his career he has been durable too. This contract goes through his age 36 season.
Age 37 if next season is cancelled due to lockout. Too long and too much money for a player on the wrong side of 30.
Pretty sure contracts aren’t extended if they lose time to a strike, they just don’t get paid if they are on strike but the rest stays the same.
It becomes a 4 year deal if the owners lockout the players in 2027.
A year’s lockout will take Bregman as a Cub to 2032, which is what the front office is concerned about.
Wow
Good fit
Wow!
now the cub fans who say “the cubs never spend any money” can shut up
No, they will forget about this in about 2 days.
But they NEVER will. They will spread hate and poison because they don’t like the politics of some of the ownerships family.
I like ownership’s stance on not signing overpaid underperforming liability free agents and I’m pissed they’ve gone back on it. This signing will age like milk left on the counter.
You must be a White Sox fan who cares more about the Cubs than your own team
They’re the same ones who were complaining about Ebenezer Ricketts and Jed Cratchet as recently as an hour ago.
Woah. Nico Horner gets traded to SF
Not going anywhere. Shaw becomes utility until/if Nico leaves
I’d take Nico over Shaw any day, and I love Shaw.
Oh no, somebody went to their friends funeral and then talked about how Jesus loved his enemies. How dare he!
I feel exactly the same
I was responding to
“I would take Nico over Shaw every day, and I love Shaw”
Keep Nico. Trade Shaw
Nico is a free agent at the end of 2026. If they can extend Nico, then yes, trade Shaw. Otherwise, Shaw replaces Nico in 2027 as the 2B.
In your dreams Splinky. This signing in no way affects Hoerner.
Skip
Agree. Other than that it lessens their pressure to extend Nico past 2026.
Oh my God welcome to the offseason Jed Hoyer. But seriously, aren’t they all overpaid?
Every time people say these guys are overpaid think what that really means. All professional sports make money hand over fist. If the players aren’t getting big contracts that’s just more money for the owner to shove in his pocket. I applaud every player for getting what he can.
Millionaires vs billionaires, but ticket prices go higher and higher.
RF
“ticket prices go higher and higher.”
Economics 101
A product will cost what people are willing to pay for it.
People are willing to pay billions to MLB
MLB employees, mostly the baseball players, get some portion of that. I think the players deserve as much as possible and the owners deserve less, relatively.
The only way ticket prices will come down is if fans are not willing to pay the high prices
Doesn’t Boras negotiate directly with ownership?
Whomever can get the contract signed. That’s who you negotiate with.
Whoa
If Breslow whiffs on Bichette I’m gonna lose it.
Get ready to lose it
The Red Sox plan was to get Bregman on their terms or go with Mayer at 3B. Breslow and Sam Kennedy showed their cards on how they approached the offseason with WEEI recently. The only difference is they wised up and didn’t attack the fans.
I’m happy with Mayer at 3B. Need Bo at 2B. Absolutely have to have another RH bat with some pop.
Mayer is a good look on paper, but his durability hasn’t impressed me. I’m glad they shored up the 1B problem from last year (no every day 1B), but now if Mayer cant stay healthy they potentially have that same issue at 3B.
Bichette to the Red Sox would surprise me… He’s not going to be cheap.
100% he deserves more years at the same rate
slowcurve
If Bo goes to Boston, I’ll be forced to burn a Blue Jays jersey!
Woah. Horner goes to SF now?
Bets on Seattle for him.
Why does this have anything to do with Hoerner, who plays a different position?
Because this makes him superfluous?? They will rotate positions which leaves him without an everyday spot and he’s getting 12 mil this year. Have to ditch some money now that they’ve got to pay Bregman 35 mil average for the next 5 years. How DOESN’T that make sense?
The Cubs window is this year. They have a ton of FA after this year besides Hoerner: Happ, Suzuki, Taillon, Imanaga plus half the bullpen.
I would be stunned if they trade Hoerner this year and then try to find a halfway decent utility IF in case there is an injury.
No chance, Hoerner isn’t getting traded. Shaw becomes utility for at least one year then can go to second if Nico isn’t resigned.
I agree. Unless Hoerner and other pieces could be traded for Skubal or Duran, then I think he is staying out.
Hex
“Have to ditch some money now”
Why do you believe that this is true?
Because they are committing 35 million more than before. That’s a huge chunk of change. What part of that didn’t make sense to you?
How does signing Bregman to play 3B make a 6 WAR 2B superfluous? Literally the best 2B in baseball last year and you think that the Cubs will trade him because they signed a 3B? Why do they need to “ditch some money”? How does anything you said make any sense?
Hex, none of it makes any sense. The Cubs don’t have to cut payroll. They are a top 5 revenue team. They haven’t spent doesn’t = they can’t spend. Plus, they have $100 million coming off the books at the end of the 2026 season. Nico won’t be traded. Especially not to try to save money.
I hope they keep Nico, but honestly I can see them trading him now because the money would take them back under the luxury tax and they likely could get a pretty good package or prospects to re-stock the farm with Shaw moving over to 2nd. With the 2027 season in jeopardy you might also not want to make him the qualifying offer since he’d likely accept and then your paying him for a lost season and then eventually he walks with no draft pick attached the following year. Trading him now removes all the risk. I hope it doesn’t happen, but it makes a lot of business sense.
I soooo hope it’s the Yankees. I like Hoerner and the Yankees need more guys like him.
Clip, after the season ended, Hoyer indicated the Cubs needed more hitters of Nico’s style. Put the ball in play, more often. Make productive outs.
Bregman fits that style. I don’t anticipate Nico getting traded this offseason.
TBH we don’t need him this year, and I don’t want yet another guy on an expiring contract that’s going to cost us prospects and not stay.
I like the player, but that’s the reality of it.
Nico does not get traded. He’s too valuable to the team. He plays SS in a Dansby injury among many other things.
Again, you have to think about how much he’s getting paid when they could have a guy in his first two years of a rookie contract get reps while they now have to shell out a huge contract. He’s probably getting shipped out.
They won’t trade Hoerner. They’re all in for this year and Hoerner is a crucial piece of the up the middle defense. The most reliably clutch player on the team as well. I also don’t think the Cubs wanted to have both Shaw and Ballesteros starting for this season.
Obviously, the Cubs are going all in to win this year. They’re not trading Nico.
No more Matt Shaw!
No more Hoerner, most likely. Shaw can move to 2B.
But why? As good as nico is he’s not going to be very expensive
Matt Shaw is pre arb so he is making league minimum. Hoerner is getting 12 mil. Simple math even if Hoerner is overall better. Gotta ditch money somehow to pay for Bregman.
Why do you have to ditch money. The cubs can afford to go over the luxury tax.
Nico isn’t goin anywhere they’re trying to win in ‘26. If Nico isn’t resigned Shaw can play 2B next year.
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This is my guess. Cubs keep Nico for 2026 and give him a QO knowing that he will decline.
Not much value in the QO if they are over the tax
Nah they aren’t moving Hoerner.
Fucj yeah
I hate Sox management. Since the Mookie trade this organization has destroyed an all time great franchise in sports
I understand my son is a diehard sox fans and I agree they been cheap. But thats a massive contract for breg and he does get hurt. I don’t blame them here
All-time great? Before 2004, they went 86 years without winning a chip….
Then won in 07, 13, and 18, so chill on that
They been fantastic since 04 as a franchise and they always were in it. So yeah definitely a great franchise.
They have the most titles this century, Jerry
I’m not even a Red Sox guy and I have massive respect for them because they have the most WS wins this century. What are you even talking about?
Sorry not a millennial, and we have 75 years to go….
Forget History all. Just look at the Henry ownership period. U.S. fans were impressed and ecstatic at first but in recent years they run Fenway Group as a conglomerate taking Sox profits and spending more where they see future higher returns such as LIV golf, Liverpool and the Penguins. They now treat fans like sheep as they believe Fenway is a destination, which will get filled regardless of the on field production. Thus, while many other big market clubs spend and rebuild simultaneously, they act like the smaller valued clubs and ended up closer to last in more years since 2012 than they’ve been trying to win a championship.
*Us fans.
So you have the Red Sox spending audits? Sounds like you are assuming a lot here. Yes, I agree they should buy more players, but to act like you know where their money is going without citing sources is crazy.
They may have tried here
I hate fans like you that cry when our 4x World Series winning management makes a great decision to not match an awful contract. Grow up.
Sam? Sam Kennedy is that you? I can tell the tone by attacking the fans.
Yeah I’m Sam Kennedy
How did your boy Mookie look this year? How about Xander? You still want Devers back too I’m guessing? Go out to the west coast you can have all of them in the NL west trash can.
Mookie had a higher bWAR than every starter in Boston in 2026. Bogaerts definitely not worth that contract though.
Mookie value at this point is his defensive flexibility. The numbers he puts up are acceptable for a middle infielder, but not an OF. He can’t steal bags or hit for power anymore. He will be slugging under 400 next year.
good thing he’s a middle infielder then
He’s not supposed to be one. If I recall, they recommended Mookie should stay in the outfield for longevity. He is fading as a player, and I know the Dodgers have money, but they’re going to be stuck with that contract in the next coming years and he will be taking up a roster spot as he declines. He might be good for another two years but he’s not the superstar he used to be.
Sam Kennedy stop using the alias.
They could still go for Bichette…
Bang bang!!!
I wonder how long it’ll take for his hamstring to snap this year
Incredible! Thought Boston for sure!
Absolutely so happy he went elsewhere
Wow. Cubs spend big!
Ooooh shiiiiite! That’s a surprise to me with the kids they got, all of which are good.
Still Holy cowsers!
5 X 37.5 ?
X35
I think it’s 35M AAV
Tough day for the Ricketts doesn’t spend crowd.
Holy overpay
YES
babushka
Disastrous contract for the cubs!!! What an absolute joke!!!
Gotta do what you gotta do. Jays did the same with Cease
Don’t you think that the last season or two of every one of these huge contracts is a disaster?
I’d take a slight overpay of a productive player over their usual sign 7 crappyplayers equaling 35 million dollars
They have saved a lot of money the last four years. Time to spend it. The last I looked they still only have 13 position player spots to optimize.
Pitching is a better overpay than a position player…
As a frustrated Cubs fan it is nice to see them step up but I would’ve preferred Bichette. This contract won’t age well. He isn’t worth 30 a year let alone 35. Would’ve rather paid Suarez 2/44.
With his strikeout rate? Nah brah.
Yeah the SO rate is brutal but if he would take 2 years I would’ve preferred that over this. No way this contract ages well. Bregman can’t stay healthy now as it is.
He tied for 38th in games played over the past four seasons…
Still was injured last year and it could’ve been worse. He’s not getting younger
I would have preferred to extend Nico Hoerner.
I would take Bregman over Bichette rather easily though.
After this they still have less than $80m committed for 2027, they’ll be fine whatever happens. I do expect the end of it to be ugly but what can you do.
Suarez is asking for 3/60+
Starting pitching and hitting 3-run homers play big in the postseason. Geno Suarez hit 49 homeruns last year. That’s a lot.
OK, so this is happening.
Helps get cornerstone franchise third baseman traded then leaves after missing a substantial part of the year injured.
Devers was not a cornerstone nor a franchise anything, let alone a 3B. Devers own actions led to his being traded. He was not a team player. It was not an accident that the team started winning as soon as he was out of the clubhouse.
Bregman had nothing to do with the FO deciding they were better off with Devers gone. Bregman was signed to what could be a one year deal, so they knew that there was a chance they would lose him. Devers was traded because they felt they would be a better team without him and trading him would clear $200+ million off the books to sign other players that were team players.
Skip — HAHA skip oh skip, the world must be filled with one big coincidence after another, right?
Skip: No matter how many times someone explains exactly what you just stated, people are going to complain about the FO getting rid of “The Cancer”.
Devers had a great bat for Fenway and a plus hitter overall. His defense was horrible.
The big problem this is the second year the management lied to the fans. They said they were going to get a big bat and a top pitcher. they went dumpster diving again for ok guys and not bigger quality.
Gray, Oviedo, and Contreras is not dumpster diving. That is a #2, a #4, and a top notch 1B with the bat and glove. I agree that they still need a RHB, but the offseason is not over and Bichette is still on the market.
0/3 on ex-Astros, trying for 0/4?
LMAO 🤣
Hoerner to Seattle now?
Yep, this would be a great move for Seattle.
The Cubs are in win now mode, so the Mariners would have to give up MLB players to get Hoerner who had a 6.2 WAR last season and 15.4 WAR the past 3 seasons.
To give you something to compare Hoerner’s value to, Woo had a 4.2 WAR last season. He was their top pitcher. No Mariners pitcher has had 15 WAR the past 3 seasons.
So what MLB players are the Mariners sending to Chicago?
What? Tucker was great.
cubs went nowhere in 2025, astros win the deal
Astros didn’t make the playoffs at all, Paredes got hurt, and Smith had a 1.9 WAR and 87 OPS+. Astros may have won the trade over time, but Tucker was well worth it for Cubs.
Skip
Agree. Paredes was not hitting with the Cubs. Shaw looks at least as good as Cam Smith to me.
If Smith gets better, maybe both teams will win the deal.
Cubs should have kept Paredes for third base.
What about W. Abreu?
Dumped Devers for Bregman now either one!
Bichette is worth 36 now…
Dumped Devers because of his bad behavior.
Funny, he signs and it’s overpay. If he goes somewhere else, Jed is an idiot.
Guess the Red Sox didn’t value his leadership that much.
Guess bellinger just got a little closer to that rumoured $37m aav
Yeah that sort of validates why Bellinger isn’t backing down. If Bregman got that, so can he.
Im not a cubs fan but its really not that bad because its only 5 years so you dont have any of the obvious bad years at the end of a mega contract.
If they care about the CBT, the high AAV could influence them signing other high-priced players.
Now they can cut their white supremest
Unlikely since the racist right wing owners are with him
Never remember- were you at the ny protest with your hamas friends last night?
Hopefully they can trade him along with a few other assets for a solid RF/DH
White guilter spotted ^
Makes sense. Right or wrong, Chicago is not the city for his public politics to work. A lot of fans will be turned off by him. Trade him to Texas or one of the Florida teams and he will fit better.
@hiflew: Right or wrong, the fans couldn’t care less about Shaw’s or any player’s politics. That’s not how fans work, that’s not how Chicago works.
I didn’t say all would, but some will. I am not judging his beliefs. He has the right to believe whatever he wants in this country. But when you make those beliefs public, you have to deal with people that vehemently disagree. And SOME fans will react to that. Not all, but some will. And yes that is how Chicago works. And New York, And LA. And Houston, And Miami. Because all of those cities are comprised of human beings and that is the way human beings act.
Fans and corporate sponsors in Chicago are up in arms over Shaw’s appearance at TPUSA. Pitching a fit would be a better description.
In Wrigleyville they ban season ticket holders for life for flashing a white supremacist hand sign. So tell us again that is not how Chicago works.
Astros are probably willing to fleece him as well from the northsiders, esp with the corruption in that beautiful state
Nick Fuentes is a Cubs fan.
Trade, not cut. But I think you are right that there is a reason that the Cubs signed someone to fill 3B a few weeks after Shaw spoke at a TPUSA event. Shaw’s breakout season will give him some value in trade.
Or they can just continue melting snowflakes
Aren’t there murmurings that the entire Cubs operation tilts that way…Who was the last African-American player the Cubs rostered ? Denard Span ?
@ignorant. Carl Edwards and Jason Heyward come to mind. Oh and Stroman.
There was no way any deal he signed could be seen as good. Way too much for too long.
For that money, you could have 7 fine ladies every night for the next 60 years.
“ladies”? 🙂
I think it’s actually 8, but you may be allowing for more inflation than me.
You know what they say about village bicycles…. Everyone has had a ride.
It’s an overpay, but that defense just got even better.
Shaw was gold glove considerations. Bregman is slightly better… for now.
Shaw was at the bottom of the barrel in exit velocity, and pretty much every other hitting stat. His StatCast page is all blue under offense other than Whiff%. Even his defense was way below average. 36th percentile in OAA and a -1 FRV.
By way of comparison, Bregman was in 83rd percentile in OAA and a +3 FRV.
Bregman has much better range and a better glove.
Wow, kinda shocked he got a deal that big, it didn’t seem like there was a ton of interest in him, or at least not enough to get him to 5 years at $35 million a year.
It only takes two aggressive suitors for a bidding war. Just never guessed that Cubs would be one of them.
But it was done in time for fan fest. Haha!
They are saying the Red Sox aggressive offer was 5/160 and that they were not the highest offer other than the Cubs.
Overrated and now over paid.
Im glad the Tigers didn’t go there. Hopefully this opens the floodgates for signings.
Dangit! Reds better do something big now for sure
Reds dodged a bullet. Trade for Shaw and you win
Big for Cubbies. Other big name free agents loving that price point
The effing what? What are we doing with Shaw? I was good moving on from Tucker and not signing Bregman. Would’ve preferred Bichette, more contact guy although Bregman has been on a lot of winning Astros teams. I am conflicted about this signing…
Bichette can only play 2B, or SS if you close your eyes. Cubs cannot use him.
Bichette struggles on balls hit to the left side. 3B is not the best option for him.
Opposite
It’s a reaction time thing off righties to the pull side.
My guess. Hoerner plays 2B in 2026, Shaw plays 2B in 2027. Shaw can play utility in 2026 or DH if they trade Ballesteros.
Signing Brean only makes sense to me if Hoerner was asking even MORE than than for an extension.
Trading a hitter with Ballesteros potential would be one of the dumbest moves they could make. I absolutely don’t care that he’s likely a DH – – because he’s also a likely third catcher.
I personally would like to see them keep all of Kevin Alcantara, Moises Ballesteros, Shaw and Wiggins.
The only “prospects” that I would be ok trading are Brown and Wicks.
If they must get below the tax, they can trade one of Taillon, Shota or Rea after Steele is back and they have a sense of how the rotation is doing.
My preference is that they stop now and go with what they have.
What’s the equivalent player comp on Ballesteros if he hits his 75th percentile full potential ?? Is he a Willson Contreras ?
I’m a bit conflicted about the Red Sox losing Bregman. This could turn out to be anywhere from a great deal to a horrible deal.
Hoerner is one of the best fielding 2B in baseball who might even have a better than league average bat. You preferred Bitchette who you dont know if he will be any good at the keystone instead?
While Shaw is also a fantastic fielding 3B, with Bregman you still keep the glove and get a bat upgrade. Shaw might be able to become a damn good utility. He has 2B and SS experience in the minors. I think thats less risky than moving baseballs worst starting SS to 2B.
Salary
Giving “Across1331” the benefit of the doubt that he was saying that he preferred Bichette to Bregman, not saying Bichette to Hoerner.
I rank them Hoerner then Bregman than Bichette last of the three.
Okay, I can see him meaning that. Move Bichette to third? That kind of seems even crazier to me. Bregman at third is absolutely the better option for third than Bichette but you probably have a good point.
Trading him. His appearance at TPUSA may have sealed that judging from the uproar in Chicago media.
Not for tpusa, but would gladly trade for Shaw to help him escape the fraud and hypocrisy. I know the Einsteins here will bring out the trash can jokes, but the dude wouldn’t have to put up with the bs in Houston, and he has a better chance to win
You are saying Houston is racist enough to accept Shaw while Chicago isn’t?
@Fungo. Just looked at what you are talking about. I also listened to some video concerning it. Council and Happ expressed support for him despite the back lash so I would yet be surprised to see him traded. Just to account for myself, I condemn what TPUSA actually stands for.
(Editors note. Nobody has to engage Fungo or I in a conversation about anything other than baseball. You can just let us have this dialog between two commenters.)
Nico is gonna be a Mariner now!!
Wouldn’t surprise me either although I’m hoping for bichette but will settle for Hoerner
Hoerner had a 6.2 WAR last season and 15.4 the last 3. Chicago is in win now mode so would want MLB players only. Starting pitching mostly. So what MLB players are the Mariners going to send to Chicago that are worth as much as Hoerner?
Moderate overpay unless some of it is deferred.
Cubs refuse to defer money.
Where does Shaw play now?
This was my line of thinking. Shaw was good at 3B and will only improve. No idea why they felt they needed Bregman.
Precisely my thinking.
Shaw was worth 3.1 WAR as a 23 yr old and had a 2nd half OPS+ of 127
Bregman was worth 3.4 WAR as a 31 yr old with an OPS+ of 128
He goes to the Giants to play DH and learn 1B.
You mean the two spots they are overloaded at already ?
I was making a joke about Devers, and how after the Red Sox signed Bregman, they manufactured a situation and got rid of Devers. Boy, 2025 just looks worse and worse for the Red Sox.
How is a terrible teammate outing himself as a terrible teammate manufacturing anything? The team started winning after trading the clubhouse cancer.
Shaw and Ballasteros split DH and Shaw spells both Bregman and Nico in the field to keep them fresh. Gives you lots of lineup options now.
@swingandamiss – I just feel like it’s an unnecessary purchase. Is Bregman and his injury history + the price tag that big of an upgrade over Shaw at 3B? I just don’t see lineup flexibility worth that type of price.
On the surface you’re not wrong, but this is bigger than that. He’s the type of player the Cubs value. High contact, good defense. Whole team is built around it. Also… Hoerner, Happ, Suzuki all free agents. This is clubhouse stability, leadership with Dansby, etc. PCA mentorship. Yeah you’re paying him 7 million per year too much, but you can blow that on Stanek’s too.
Hopefully Venezuela with his buddy Trump
^angry hamas loving guy is going to go on a rampage soon
On a different team.
2b in Houston
As a Sox fan I am conflicted. On one hand, it is an overpay and this contract will not age well. On the other hand, youre the Red Sox and can afford to overpay; sometimes it is necessary. Bregman was a great fit for the Sox and he was a perfect for their young clubhouse.
Red Sox have some great infield prospects. Bregman for one year is a perfect fit. Bregman for 5 years, not so much.
For sure, totally get why they wouldnt go there for him. Same with Bogaerts. He was my favorite Sox player at the time and even though it sucked to see him go, I didnt blame them one bit after seeing the contract SD gave him.
Yeah the Xander contract may actually be one of the worst in baseball.
Boras got Bregman 8 years and $210M in contracts.
He’s a Boras client obviously going to have to overpay
No, you don’t really have to
Then you don’t get his client he will wait to spring training I’ve seen it before that’s how Boras works
And the team missing out is fine in long run
35 million a year for what? So somebody is definitely going but who. Cubs are right at the Tax now then. What a waste.
@uncle: I fon’t think anyone’s going. I think they decided it’s OK to go over the first tier of the CBT.
You will lose that bet.
Lol. Of course the complaints will not stop.
Mike
They could trade Shota mid season?
Yeah. I think if you accept a QO you can’t be traded without your permission before 6/15. I asked in one of the chats.
See ya. So happy the Sox didn’t sign him. Defense is not worth $35M per year.
Not good news. He will be this season’s Tucker–a guy who is supposed to be a difference-maker, but isn’t.
Except he’s here for 5 years with another NTC. Atta boy Jed. Still not too smart.
I wanted to extend Nico and go with what we had.
But they keep Nico and Shaw for 2026, then I am not upset.
Maybe they move a pitcher after Steele returns.
How about if they move Shaw for a back of the rotation starter and extend Hoerner?
Solid move. Yeah it’s a lot but it’s free agency and for 5 years, it’s not something that’ll haunt them for too long if it doesn’t turn out well. Hope they can move Shaw+ for a solid RF.
They’re not gonna trade Shaw.
Not unless Nico signs an extension first, which is very unlikely
35 mill is a “solid” move?
I just deposited a “solid” in the…oh nevermind.
Hopefully they do not trade Hoerner and keep Shaw as the utility infielder and splitting the DH with Ballesteros. No guarantee that Ballesteros will hit off the start, he may need an adjustment period.
Cubs just became the biggest threat to the Dodgers in the NL
lol no. you replaced tuckers bat with bregman. you still have to try and win a division
Terrible overpay
So Shaw is getting traded just like Caissie?
No need. Hoerner is in his walk year and Shaw’s a fine 2B. So’s Bregman for that matter.
35 million a year? Hahahahaha
I don’t think the contract will age well, but it will help in 2026 so long as they also keep Hoerner
If they win the World Series in 2026, the rest of the contract is just dust in the wind.
Cubs are a good fit for him, seriously overpay unless a good amount is deferred
And THAT is why you trade for a cost controlled pitcher from the Marlins. So it’s Owen Caissie (and 2 prospects) for Cabrera and Bregman.
Caissie, 2 prospects, and $200m. You forgot that last part.
$175 + $4 doesn’t = $200.
Glad the Tigers didn’t sign him. Wish they would acquire someone significant, though.
Tucker now 10 years 400 mil?
Tucker was trash last year. His best bet will be the deal Bregman signed last year.
He was better than any sox player
Tucker could be a great LF in Fenway. At $35M AAV for 8 years could be reasonable win. But super unlikely for the money to be spent, and the Red Sox needs don’t line up.
Duran, Rafaela and Crochet were all better from a WAR perspective but I’m guessing you’re still wondering what WAR even means.
Hilarious that you atttack my valid point on Tuckers awful 2nd half with the most personal thing you can think of. I remember when I joined MLBTR at 12 years old, so I’m not hating.
Duran was better than Tucker. Only one on either Sox team.
Losing Bregman is a mistake for Boston.
Didn’t like leadership of Bergman, nor the ‘problem’ of Devers.
Lot of pressure now on Roman Anthony…in Boston…good luck!
Nice strategic signing by the Cubs after the Bears loss lol
Oh looks like someone pre chalked a little early!
The Packers need to fire Lafleur
This didn’t age well…
Swing and a miss
Bruh. 😎
The Bears only need to show up in the 4th quarter.
Wow…this is not only a huge overpay, but it’s going to have the ripple effect of either
A: killing the development of Matt Shaw (unless the plan is for him to become a super-utility guy like Zobrist)
B: the trade of Nico Hoerner (who’s arguably the heart and soul of the Cubs with gold glove defense and superior bat to ball contact skills)
And once again, Jed hands out NTC’s like a bartender hands out free drinks to the girl showing cleavage at the bar at midnight.
Bregman’s ok, but he’s going to play next year at age 32 so the Cubs are on the hook for his probable decline at age 35-37
I don’t HATE this deal, I just think the dollars would have been better spent on starting pitching, extending Nico, and giving Shaw time to bloom.. Now if this signing gets the Cubs a WS title, then maybe it’s justified.
Time will tell and since it’s not my money, then ok, let’s see what happens.
Shaw and Bregman can both play 2B and Hoerner’s gone next year most likely.
This doesn’t hurt Shaw. Shaw can bounce between 3B, 2B and DH. Everyone seems to forget the DH spot is open. Ballesteros doesn’t have it locked down.
Right and Shaw was a college SS so he could nab a few games there as well not to mention he’s pretty damn good insurance for the inevitable injuries that happen during the year.
You kidding me the Libs of Chicago have spoken on Shaw. Would be a great get for a team like the Tigers
And Bregman will DH sometimes.
That would be a good thing for his health, whether he wants to admit it or not Father Time always wins. Undefeated.
Agree. Hopefully this works out, but I really don’t want to lose Nico in free agency and I still want Shaw to develop. I don’t hate the move, but it creates questions for Shaw’s development and the possibility of extending Nico.
Shaw won’t be a Cub in 2026. That is why Bregman was signed.
Look #1 you can’t trade Hoerner this year. He’s the B/U Shortstop. yeah Shaw can play there just like you can play Ballesteros in CF. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. The only thing I like about this at all is the Cubs were awfully LHanded with the bats. This does help that. The obvious move to get under the tax is move either Taillon or Boyd. Yeah I don’ like it either but it’s the obvious move now.
I didn’t know there was anything wrong with buying drinks for the cleavage girl.
Pretty good move here. His clubhouse impact is hard to quantify.
The hope is the haves keep overpaying and the have-nots can still be competitive with mid-tier players. Elite players are older and pricing themselves into a very small niche market. Younger and younger players are going to be regulars over the next few years.
I’m a big fan of bregman and mamdani. I am a good guy
Not gonna lie, I’m glad the Cubs are actually spending money.
$35 mil a year for 5 years? For a guy that will be 32 on opening day?
Thats just dumb. But have fun Cub fans.
5 instead of 7 is smart. The money doesn’t matter. 1st off, its not yours, 2nd the Cubs can afford it. They are still well under the CBT aren’t they?
Also, never doubt Scott Boras
The Cubs get to hear the Cheater chant for the next 5 years!
Are there still idiots out there chanting that 8 years later? Especially when the Yankees started it and the Red Sox were also fined for it? Plus Dodgers and many other teams were named as doing it also. How stupid do you have to be to do that?
Wait the league was fining the teams for fans jeering with “Cheater”?
You can get away with cheating as long it’s on the ‘down low’ and not so obvious & obnoxious to where the mics pick it up on TV. That kind of stuff embarrasses the Manfreds of the world.
I can definitely see Bergman averaging 4WAR per year over the next five years making the contract kinda sorta reasonable…
20 bWAR makes it worth about $200 million and provides the Cubs with surplus value. I am not so optimistic. I think he will end up somewhere between 16 and 17 WAR.
Cubs will trade him in 2 years and pay half the contract
I think that I read he has a no trade deal.
So did Correa. Trash always ends up back in trash can town.
Awesome. Now Hoerner gets traded to Yanks to play SS.
Yanks are now gonna make some noise in the next few days.
I also think Cubs will sign Bellinger or resign Tucker. They are all in.
Wow the delusion is strong in you padewan
Hoerner won’t be traded. Especially after Shaw is traded.
I’m still curious about why Shaw would get traded at all? There are many positions he can play in 2027 and beyond. In 2026 he can try out various positions as Mr. UTILITY. Hoerner seems more likely because it’s his walk-year.
Shaw at DH or traded by trade deadline during season now?
Traded before the season starts.
Congrats Cubs fans!
Don’t get me wrong, Bregman is good and I’m glad Hoyer is finally spending. It’s just I don’t want to lose Shaw or Hoerner lol
Spending is for stupid teams. Smart teams develop their own players and make trades for talented young players in other organizations. Free agency is for fools.
@JHoward The Mariners are trying that approach but teams don’t seem to want to give up major league players for any of our prospects. Teams seem to want major league ready pieces back.
There is nothing to be congratulated here. Now that Rendon is retired he will be in the running for the worst contract in baseball along with Marcus Semien. When will these owners learn to stop being fleeced by aging and declining free agent hitters?
So if they somehow re-sign Kyle Tucker, they will have four of the top nine players from the 2015 draft?
I can remember the doomers from last year saying Bregman and Alonso will never sign a long-term contract. Same for Bellinger and Tucker this offseason.
It’s Tucker’s turn to take the 3-year deal with opt-outs. Now it’s just a right of passage since Bregman, Alonso, and Belli had to do it.
The Red Sox gave up a draft pick to sign Bregman for one year. Craig Breslow is the gift that keeps on giving
They gave a draft pick to overpay him and use him to dump Devers and his contract that is starting to look really undermarket…
Apparently Shaw will be playing Left Out.
Wonder if this i creases Bo and Tucker’s value any.
Hopefully the Jays do something. Their answer to Bo and others leaving can’t be a middle of the rotation at best starter and a wildcard Japanese 3B
It creases it like taking $175M out the market.
Don’t want to see anymore Cub fans whining that they never spend money in these comment sections
What SP can you get for Shaw? With this signing it shows how little convince they have in Shaw.
Wow, so does this lead to a Nico Hoerner trade with Shaw moving over to 2B?
Shaw’s potential is much higher than Hoerner. A trade to the Mariners for a bullpen arm would be a great deal for them.
Put down the bong. Hoerner is a consistent performer who has averaged over 5 WAR the past 3 seasons, had a 6.2 WAR last year, and won’t be 29 until May 2026.
Shaw had a breakout season in 2025 but even then was only a 98 OPS+ or below average hitter. If they can get anything at all back in trade for Shaw, he will be traded. If the Cubs had confidence in his game they would not have signed Bregman at all.
SF
“If the Cubs had confidence in his game they would not have signed Bregman at all.”
This isn’t true, of course
FG projects Shaw to be a roughly league average player. That’s good. Most players that play in any given season are worse than average.
Bregman is projected to be a 4 WAR player. That’s better than Shaw.
The Cubs can absolutely have confidence in Shaw and still prefer Bergman.
No. They’ll keep both.
Makes no sense to keep them all though.
Sure it does. Championships are won by the best TEAM. Ask the Mets, they know all about how you can’t buy a title.
Having depth is underrated. Shaw can backup all three IF positions and he provides insurance for the inevitable injuries. He basically ensures that overall production does not fall off if one of Bregman/Hoerner/Swanson miss any extended time.
Aside from that he covers 2B if Hoerner doesn’t sign an extension when his contract is up after this season.
Unless there’s a trade scenario that demonstrably gives the team a better chance at winning the World Series, it makes perfect sense to keep all of them.
Hoerner won’t be traded.
Bichette or Suarez have to be a top priority for Boston. They need a bat, and it’s too bad it wasn’t Bregman.
They don’t need a bat at all.
Agree, and definitely not Bichette, but I’d be OK with 2 years of Suarez.
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The Red Sox are projected to be below average by wRC+. That’s embarrassing. They absolutely need another bat., You can’t play half your games at Fenway with this offense.
Lol at this cuck
Seam. at their fanfest, Cora and other Red Sox execs said a bat was their priority.
This. Marcelo will be a fine 3B for this year.
But can Mayer avoid yet another season ending injury?
He’s 0-4 so far in his first 4 pro seasons…
RE Joe:
Red Sox are projected, by FG, to be a top 10 team in baseball
*https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=3
Oopsy?
Full seasons by Anthony and Mayer should improve the offense (but that’s never a guarantee in a sophomore season, especially with both coming back from injury). Contreras is an improvement at first, but Bregman is a huge loss at third. Coming into this offseason, the Red Sox have missed out on Alonso, Schwarber, Okamoto, and now Bregman. They have not singed a major league free agent. This is unacceptable. They need to show they’re serious about improving this team to compete in this juggernaut of an AL East. Just my opinion, but the most straightforward move now would be sign Suarez at third and shift Mayer to second. They can also sign Bichette to play SS, move Story to second, and Mayer at third. But at the end of the day, Boston needs an infielder. Go get one Breslow, pay up.
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“They need to show they’re serious about improving this team to compete in this juggernaut of an AL East”
Showing you’re serious about improving isn’t how you complete
Per Fangraphs projections, they have the 9th best roster in baseball
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Sure, but still that’s only 9th best. There’s 4 AL teams ahead of them, including 3 AL East teams. And that’s thanks to a high ranking for pitching (projected 2nd in baseball). Their projected offensive WAR is 21st in baseball (behind teams like the Athletics, Twins, and Cardinals…).
They’re a playoff team right now. If they want to be a World Series team, they need to improve. And they said themselves, they need a power bat. They have a position in third base that isn’t clearly occupied (since Mayer can play second and eventually SS). Suarez makes so much sense…let’s them commit to the youngsters, but gives them a few years of home run power without breaking the bank.
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“They’re a playoff team right now. If they want to be a World Series team, they need to improve”
Any team that makes the playoffs is a potential world series team.
“thanks to a high ranking for pitching”
Pitching counts. And helps win baseball games.
As is they have a good chance at the playoffs and a chance to win the world series
Again. Yes. If they improve, they will be better.
“If they improve, they will be better.”
Yes, and they should. That’s my argument. Thanks for agreeing!
They’re going all-in with Anthony, Mayer, and Casas which is exactly what you’re supposed to do with your premium prospects, isn’t it? When you have multiple IF prospects ready to go it makes no sense to dump money on an IF.
None of those guys are necessarily third basemen:
Mayer can play all over the infield, but has mostly played SS professionally. He was at 3rd base last year to cover during the Bregman injury, and would project as the starting 3rd basemen today due to no other options, but I think he should be playing 2B and be the heir apparent at SS.
Casas is a first basemen/DH, assuming he can stay healthy.
Anthony is a outfielder.
Signing someone like Suarez brings them much needed power and a third basemen, without taking away playing time from the kids.
That’s, going all-in.
Bottom line the Red Sox need more thump in their lineup and the most straight forward way to do that is to sign Good Vibes Geno for 2 or 3 years. Great clubhouse guy as well.
Ignorant
“Bottom line the Red Sox need more thump in their lineup”
They are a top 10 team right now
Yes. If they improve, they will be better
I was talking about power (home runs mainly) and the Red Sox lack of it. Full season of Anthony will help. If Casas comes out hot, yeah he could hit a few. You need at least one more power source though. I think that’s undeniable.
I
“I was talking about power”
Ok?
With the power they currently have, they are projected to be a top 10 team.
“You need at least one more power source though. I think that’s undeniable.”
So, I deny that they “need” anything
Again, yes, improving will make them better
You know who FanGraphs projects as their top home run hitter this season currently? Wilson Contreras, with 19 home runs. He would rank 101st in MLB with that number. So, yes. More power is needed. How do you propose they address that?
Sign Geno Suarez
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“More power is needed”
More power is not needed. As constructed at this moment they have the tenth best roster in MLB. They have a very good chance to make the playoffs and a chance to win the World Series
Again, yes, improving will make them better.
Juan
So you’re saying the Red Sox should roll with the 10th best roster, because they have a good chance of making the playoffs and a chance to win the World Series? If Red Sox management said that, they would be absolutely ridiculed.
The team is good, but unbalanced. You can say the same thing as many times as you want, but a balanced team wins championships. Power will make the team more balanced.
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“So you’re saying the Red Sox should roll with the 10th best roster”
HAVE I said that?
Please read the words that I’m writing here.
” a balanced team wins championships”.
Citation requested
“You can say the same thing as many times as you want”
You too. You just say that the team “needs” power providing no evidence that that is true.
About time they did something with all that extra money to spend. Hope it works out
Oh wow. Completely unexpected (at least by me).
Wonder where Chicago goes from here.
Nowhere – Jed is done.
Hopefully this helps and Cubs give Milwaukee a good run at the division this season.
Shaw, Rojas and Wing to Boston for Duran who says no?
Why would Boston do that? They have a better prospect than Shaw in Mayer to play 3rd. I imagine they’ll spend their money (or prospects) on another TOR pitcher. They have plenty of hitting.
Shaw will now be a super-sub. That will give him more time for his other career.
Does he have a crush on Erika Kirk too??
32 years old. This is not a budding superstar.
Lots of players have performed well in years 32-36
How many were worth $35M for those years?
I think that depends on your definition of “lots” and “performed well”. Last year, there were 18 qualified hitters age 33 and over. That’s up from 12 and 10 the previous two seasons. Of those 18, 12 produced 2 WAR or better and 4 produced 3 WAR or better. So “ lots” is more like there are a few every year. Bregman is a good bet to age well skillset wise if health can keep him on the field. Bregman is a player I would be comfortable on a big money deal through age 36 if it also included his age 30 and 31 seasons. But starting at age 32 feels like a big bet on him to beat the odds.
Haters gonna hate…
I’ll take an “overpay” over not signing a good player in the first place. Nice move.
Yeah “overpay” is the standard line for fans of teams who didn’t sign the player.
Tigers are going full-on Notre Dame this off-season.
Big overpay-now sign Suarez
If the Bears can hold on Chicago will be a happy town tomorrow
I stopped watching that game at 21-3. What a huge comeback by Da Bears. Its the first time the Bears have ever beaten the Packers in the playoffs?
Only surprise here is the money. It’s an overpay but for a premium position. Other than a bullpen arm their roster is set
This is just as bad as the Bogaerts deal.
hope the trash cans are loud enough. Damn now i hate the cubs too for hiring this cheating loser.
“MCF”
“trash cans”
The type of low intellect person I have no interest in interacting with
Muted
Shocking!! Didn’t see this coming but I’m glad he’s out of the American League. Good luck with the Cubs Bregman. Cubs could be really good next season
Will be a bigger bust than Jason Heyward.
No chance
Present value
MLBTR’s prediction: $135 million
Actual contract:$152 million
*Assuming no deferrals, equal payments across seasons, 5% discount rate
Serious overpay
Arenado and cash for Hicks and Uberstine Eed Sox
Im definitely OK with this. I would have probably preferred Imai and Tucker or Bellinger, but once they traded Owen Caissie for Cabrera, we needed a good bat. So now, Bregman can play third for the foreseeable future and Shaw can be the Zobrist super utility position and keep Nico Hoerner and his gold glove D and elite avg w/RISP. OF is Happ, PCA and Suzuki. IF is Bregman, Swanson, Horner and Busch with Carson Kelly at C and Ballesteros or Shaw getting DH ABs. A starting rotation of Cabrera, Horton, Boyd, Taillon and Imanaga with a revamped bullpen that can miss bats and Justin Steele coming back in May/June off TJS. If Palencia can handle the 9th efficiently again, this is a deep run playoff team. Should have a chance to win the NL Central, even though the Brewers seem to have the magic lately. Gonna be a great race in the Central this year again. I love this roster. Nice work Jed. I was worried what he was doing, but the last week has been very good and he didn’t mortgage the farm. Will have a decision to make on Shaw and Hoerner next year but maybe Shaw will do so well in that role that they can keep them both around next year too. I love Shaw’s potential but I really love Nico’s approach at the plate and glove around the keystone. Tough decision. Go Cubs Go!!!!
Matt Shaw will shift to 2nd and Nico Hoerner (one year on contract) gets traded. Maybe Seattle or SF. Who else ?
I don’t think the Cubs are trading away 6 WAR Hoerner. Shaw will be super utility.
Hoerner provides no value besides batting average and defense. He doesn’t get on base enough, has zero power, doesn’t drive in runs and doesn’t steal enough bases. He should be traded immediately.
This coming from the guy who said Bregman will be a bigger bust than Heyward. Aka someone who had no clue about baseball
Sometimes people immediately show they are either too stupid or too bad of a troll to keep seeing their posts. JHoward in his first day and first thread has shown he is both.
REDSOX Dodged a Boras Bullet there…32-37 seasons for a guy who lost 2 months at 31 and no opt outs, no trade clause,had ok numbers and defense, What was Hoyer thinking!??? 35AAV no thank you!! Good Job Breslow, go get Bichette. Trade for and extend Skubal and lets go add to our MLB leading championships the last 21 years. The youth and those 2 guys…we will take off!!
It’s years 32-36 and he’s ranked 38th in games played the past four years…
The end comes fast, when it comes, and he missed a third of the season last year. (And the Sox did just fine without him.)
Good for you AB, cost you rings & the HOF but money is king to some, especially when older..
After I read this, I had a stroke. And not in the medical way.
Ewww
Good for the Cub.
Red Sox still haven’t signed a free agent this offseason! 🤷🏼♂️
Bummed, Bregman was a favorite since he was drafted, why’d he have to go to the Cubs..
at least we got his prime and the Cubs are overpaying
for declining years.
Rest easy, this is a disaster signing your team avoided a catastrophe.
Terrible
Does WAR inflation outpace age decline?
Well here we go. The Cards will trade Arenado and 20 million to the Red Sox for David Sandlin.
I hope not. Don’t want to touch arenado with a 10 foot pole.
Well… maybe Arenado plus $20m from StL if they take back Hicks and Yoshida with their full contracts.
That’d make it worth suffering through arenado’s uselessness.
Cubs are better today than they were yesterday …but Bregman plays a gritty game and that can be hard on availability.
He was the guy – Bellinger is next – I least wanted to see the Jays sign so this is “good” news!
What the heck does gritty mean?
Cheating?
I see DH in his future. And I’m ok with that. He fits.
God bless Boras – he got him the contract – a ridiculous overpay
Wow. Maybe Bo will get close to 300 million if he gets an 8 year deal. It would be around the same AAV as this deal. Teams seem to be viewing them similarly. I still think it’ll probably come in lower than that, but not by as much as I thought.
Disappointing but I’m glad it’s finally over. Sox should just pivot to Suarez for a year or two and give Campbell more time to develop and let Mayer cover 2B.
Of course i will not be surprised if Contreras is the only bat added and Mayer and Campbell are both in the Sox lineup on opening day
If you’re a Red Sox fan you should rejoice that you aren’t the sucker team stuck with a declining 32 year old hitter for the next 5 years at 30 million plus annually.
The smart move is to move Duran to second where he played in college and the minors and start Mayer at third. But then Alex “I’m a baseball genius just ask me” Cora won’t go for it because he didn’t think of it.
Shaw isn’t going anywhere. Bregman isn’t that big of an upgrade at $30M+. They will work him in. Who would they trade Shaw for anyway. They are settled everywhere else, so it only makes sense to bring in a plus player, and you won’t get that for Shaw.
I think we might see a Nico Hoerner trade.
Bregman is a superstar, hence the $35 million AAV. Shaw will be playing in another uniform in 2026. Hoerner will be at 2B in Wrigley.
Why didn’t mamdani specifically denounce hamas today?
Pathetic and disgusting
Well as critical as I’ve been on Jed Hoyer I have to give him his flowers. I know that this deal won’t age well but for the next couple of seasons the Cubs have a gold glove 3rd baseman who exudes leadership badly needed in that Cubs clubhouse with the sleepy manager they have. I’m excited. Bears beat the Packers and now my Cubs sign Bregman. Unreal day!
You won’t be happy for long. This is a terrible signing and he’s not a gold glove third baseman.
He’s a good player, that the Cubs don’t need. Shaw was his equal in 2H last year and is ascendant and cheap. Bregman looks to be getting a little brittle as he ages (age 29, 161 games, age 30, 145 games, age 31, games). The upgrade from Shaw to Bregman, assuming it is an upgrade, certainly is not worth $30 million annually. They would have been better off with Edwin Diaz and Sonny Gray and some change left over.
Ho hum….another big market team with stupid money to spend of course gets stupid spending it. That’s Kyle Tucker money for a player not in his league.
Tucker is not worth this kind of money either.
Now Extend Nico Hoerner for 5 years and keep this infield together the entire time.
This is a horrible signing. Ricketts said he was done with signing monster free agent contracts to players from other teams. This contract will be an albatross on the payroll for the next five years for an underperforming player who will not contribute anything positive. Free agent hitters in their 30s are the absolute worst investment any major league club can make. Bregman is not a 300 hitter or a 30 home run hitter doesn’t steal bases and isn’t even a gold glove defender. In the history of free agency no one has done worse than the Chicago Cubs. They are the heavyweight champion of Major League Baseball when it comes to signing huge money long-term contracts to players who don’t produce. This will be another in a long line of those type of contracts. They already have one on the books currently in Dansby Swanson who also never should have been signed. Fire Jed Hoyer he has proven to be an imbecile. After Ricketts get screwed once again on huge money free agent contract maybe he will stick to his vow of not getting involved in free agency with huge money contracts.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Bregman has had a wRC+ of 114 or better EVERY season he’s been in the league including 125 last year. That means he was 25% better than the average player. Maybe you should learn a little about baseball before going on such a rant.
Better to spend that money on intangibles and above average hitter and solid glove than someone who is more just a bat (Tucker). Red Sox clubhouse could not rave enough about him throughout the season. I think the radio play by play guys may be most devastated about this.
I guess we’ll see the Sox backup plan in near future. Hopefully it’s not banking on Mayer – not a bad player, just doesn’t seem durable even throughout his minor league career.
Tucker is a great fielder and steals bases. Way better than Bregman over the last few years. Also, I’m sure clubhouse guys are great but I’d rather have a better player on the field any day.
He’s a very nice player, but that’s a lot of cash for this guy
@gr81t2
It’s only cash. If they sit on it, it just burns away due to inflation.
Cash is just as good as money.
Red Sox trying to get 3B Devers back now . . .
Jed Hoyer is feeling the heat. If these moves don’t work out, he is out. If they work out, he is looking for an extension. Wow! Just wow!
Nice infield cubbies!
This is a Chris Dreary of the NYR-ish type of overpay!
A bit surprised.
I was hoping for Bichette, but am happy with Bregs! If the Cubs will overpay who gives a poo poo. Their revenue should cover it. Why stop now! You’re over the threshold, might as well go LA and sign !
Bregman is in no way a superstar and he never has been. They “sacked up” for Alfonso Soriano, Jason Heyward and Yu Darvish and they were all disaster signings just like this one will be. Investing 30 plus million a year for five years for a 32 year old hitter is as dumb as it gets. Fire Jed Hoyer.
… The Red Sox are going to trade for Donovan now, aren’t we.
M. Mayer can be as good as B. Donovan and the Red Sox won’t have to give up anything…
Overpay.
But the Cups will be VERY formidable the next couple seasons.
Sure it’s an overpay and the last 2 years could get ugly. But he’s a solid player and I think they’ll get 10-12 Bwar over the next 3 years, so a solid signing for the medium term.
He makes the Cubs better and that’s all you can do if you’re willing to part with the cash.
I’m sorry, what?!?
Just splashed cold water on my face, spit out the coffee I wasn’t drinking, and still can’t believe it.
Too much.
So,if the r Sox made an aggressive offer to him then would this be considered an overly aggressive offer?
I wouldn’t put it past the Red Sox if Bregman came to them with Chicago’s offer and said match or surpass it. Then of course Mr PR Henry had to put the aggressive offer out there already knowing he was gone.
Wonder how Shaw feels about being replaced by a guy named Bregman.
Maybe he’ll try to convert him.
For a team that was a) unwilling to pay Schwarber 15mil a year so instead signed Joc Pederson for 12mil b) unwilling to make a play on a top of the rotation pitcher c) salary dumped Bellinger for mop up reliever d) unwilling to make any legit effort to resign Tucker.. 35mil a year for a guy that hits 20-23 HR’s a year is a shocking decision and a severe overpay. But we shouldn’t be surprised. Remember when they passed on the opportunity to sign Trea Turner only to shell out a gazillion dollars to Dansby Swanson? Sadly, this ties up $$ they will need to resign Nico or to go after Skubal next season.
From my perspective not ‘sadly’ at all. Rather fortunate actually.
They were never going after SKubal. The guy wants 400MM and they’ve never even given out a 200MM contract.
Butters
“would this be considered an overly aggressive offer?”
Logically, not necessarily. It could, for example, just be another aggressive offer. Or a more aggressive offer.
This is such a fantastic time to be a popcorn lover.
I hate the Cubs but it’s a move you have to like. Pushing the chips in, so-to-speak. The big question is will this prevent them from adding payroll at the deadline?
Interesting. This probably takes them out of the Bichette sweepstakes.
It’s not a sweepstakes if you go to the highest bidder, I’m so tired or this term…
Not everybody always just goes to the highest bidder…
That contract will be bad in two years.
🤮🤮🤮
There’s gonna be a couple years at the end that this sucks, but they have done such a great job of building an affordable winner that they can splurge here on a guy who knows how to put a team on his back in September and October. Perfect fit for the skillset he brings and the needs of the Cubs.
Define affordable
At the end? The whole contract is going to be bad. So glad he didn’t sign with Boston.
The contract is bad now. I’d rather they spent it on Bo. At least he’s a likeable guy and doesn’t have a very punchable face like Bregman.
Bo’s a solid 2B. Bregman is a September/October difference maker who people hate because as a rookie he was the scapegoat for Hall of Famer Carlos Beltran, manager Alex Cora, the men who sign his paycheck, and dozens of other veteran ballplayers.
Cubs looking like they’re likely to be formidable this year.
Losing Bergman is not a loss. He will be just above league average for the first four years of the contract (generous) and absolutely terrible the last year or two. Good riddance. He was dead weight and over hyped from the start. Oooo he played for championship teams… years ago. He is average in every sense of the word, and I would not be surprised if he is still hurt. Hurt = zero leg strength = no XBH. He’s done.
FF
“He is average in every sense of the word”
Last year:
Walked 25% more than average
Struck out 37% less than average
Got on base 15% more than average
Hit for power 17% more than average
He was 25% better than average in total with the bat
*https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=23&season=2025&month=0&season1=2025&ind=0&players=17678
He was in the 72nd percentile in fielding
*https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alex-bregman-608324?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
Why do you think he’s “average in every sense of the word”?
Seems to me that the Bregman of years prior is “decent”. He’s not a star. Hes not a slugger . He’s an available player. That’s it.
FF
You said that he was “average in every sense of the word”. Are you retracting that statement?
Seems to me you don’t know what you are talking about.
Check this out. Compare Bregman to Ketel Marte from 2021-2025.
Marte signing 7 years at 116mil is an absolute STEAL when you see that he outperforms Bregman in every single stat line.
That’s why they had a high asking price
Does he really ? or are you just making stuff up now ?
Bregman
HR 92 RBI 339 K 12.5% OPS 803 WAR 17.5 OAA 15
Marte
HR 101 RBI 342 K 16.5% OPS 849 WAR 17 OAA 5
Also, Bregman doesn’t decide he needs a break and fail to turn up to scheduled games.
So, they will sit Shaw for Bergman, and Tucker signs elsewhere, it does look a bit like the Cubs are trending water in these deals and will look like the Arenado deal the cards are stuck with.
Bregman will provide more value to the Cubs than Tucker.
Momma always said…
Fans pay the salaries. Owners will never risk their own money.
Too high AAV and five years is a long time after 30+ plus a huge mistake giving a no trade clause. No way to move him. At least no-opt outs that kill the ability to trade, but a no trade clause makes that moot. Like the guy, but not at that price and not with those contract constraints.
I’d rather he would have an opt out after at least 2 years.
Would have been nice for Boston to have re-signed him, but this is appears to be massive overpay based on AAV., Only time will tell if this is worth it, personally I don’t think so.
This isn’t a bad signing for a team that makes and spends a lot of money, he’ll help them for a few years and then be so so or not great but so what. The reds are being left behind by everyone but the rebuilding teams, and even the cardinals might be better next year..
Cheaters always win. Sucks.
These goofs saying “overpay” are the same clowns that were hoping their team would sign him. A 5 WAR player at a premium position for a contending team that is FLUSH with cash… this is a huge W. Would we prefer the owners pocket all the money and not spend it on elite talent?
Great move. They’ll go into the first luxury threshold but it won’t hurt them as the new CBA/lockout will reset energy thing anyway.
Not worth it but the market is so out of control that this is not surprising…
red sox will pick up bohm from the pihllies
Not thrilled with this Dansby 2.0 signing. Rather have Schwarber or got a good starter. Or Tucker. Or Bellinger. Or any number of other options. The Cubs are now better but not significantly better with this. Long term it will only hurt them. Also have to live the Cubs saying they are so surprised everyone is talking about them getting a 3B and having so much confidence in Shaw. Should be politicians given how much they lie.
One plus, they will have 3 golden glovers in the infield and 2 in the outfield. Should help their pitchers quite a bit.
Excellent signing for the Cubs. Their fans should be very happy.
The negative commenters on here are just showing why they could never have the skills required to be a GM in baseball.
Bregman offers 4 benefits to the Cubs;
1.Gold glove fielder.
2. Reliable and consistent hitter.
3. Unlike Tucker, doesn’t go missing in the post season.
4. Great team man off the field. While at the Astros, took Hunter Brown aside and coached him on some of his pitching issues, providing feedback from a batter’s perspective.
not really an overpay .. but it’s over years .. could head south in three .. four years .. can’t blame the cubs for taking this swing .. pretty much paid market
hopefully that clears the logjam allowing Tucker to sign with the Jays and Bichette to the Phillies
It would be cool if at some point you added in what percentage of readers correctly guessed the signing team in their entry.
Where was the person who said he was loyal to the Red Sox? It’s obvious Bregman was more loyal to money. I get thst Breslow should sign more free agents and be aggressive but I kind of don’t blame him with the greedy players and all
Red Sox should be going all out.
Trade a package of Wilyer Abreu, Connelly Early, David Sandlin + for Ketel Marte. Sign Kyle Tucker to replace Wilyer. Sign Framber Valdez.
C: Carlos Narvaez
1B: Willson Contreras
2B: Ketel Marte
3B: Marcelo Mayer
SS: Trevor Story
LF: Roman Anthony
CF: Ceddane Rafaela
RF: Kyle Tucker
DH: Jarren Duran
1. Crochet
2. Valdez
3. Gray
4. Bello
5. Oviedo
But they won’t. As a Yankees fan, I don’t mind. They have so much talent and it seems like now is the time to go over the top. My Yanks are lethargic. The Orioles are a question mark. Tampa is taking a step back. It could be them and Toronto battling it out the next 2-3 years for not only the East, but the AL, if they wanted to. They have the resources.
As a lifelong Red Sox fan, I could not agree more. Their window is now if they were just willing to get a bit uncomfortable. But they won’t. They will continue to operate like a small market team while raking in untold millions from their loyal fanbase that refuses to hold this front office accountable. We will keep paying the highest ticket prices in sports while they spit in our face. I’ve always respected the yankees for that. Their ownership at least goes for it when they have a window, and because of their outlandish spending, they are in the AL mix EVERY year. John Henry must sell the Red Sox.
I’m seeing a lot of concern about the dollar figure and age m, but to me, the question would be more about fit. Does Bregman work at Wrigley? He’s right handed Bellinger or Tucker. Pulls fly balls without much raw power and hits a lot of fly balls. It’s a very environment dependent profile. Bellinger and Tucker had the Wrigley effect work against them. Are winds more often S than W in Chicago? I’ve heard cold NE winds in the spring that are brutal for any flyball hitter. Especially ones like Bregman, Bellinger, and Tucker who don’t hit the ball particularly hard.
As a Cubs fan, they’re getting a solid ballplayer. Good on them. Now the Red Sox seem more likely to make another trade? I guess they think Contreras replaces Bregman in their lineup but I’d still think they would want one more RH batter.
I’m glad the Red Sox didn’t overspend because that’s what Boras demands. So I’m ok with him going to another of my 29 favorite teams.
The Cubs are trying to contend, and it makes sense that a contending team isn’t feeling like starting Matt Shaw. I just don’t see it with him. Pretty bad Statcast numbers: mid swing decisions and super limited power. He looks a lot more like a decent UTL infielder than a starting 3B in the short term
Sooo Boston signed Alex Bregman without telling our power hitting cornerstone 3rd baseman amd best hitter, rightfully pissing him off and shipped him out of town for basically no return, just for Bregman to leave after one season leaving us with neither? My confidence in this front office was already low, but holy hell. As long as Henry is the owner this team will never sign another marquee free agent, nor win another championship. Absolutely pathetic.
35 million a year hahahaha. He already plays old