The Mets’ final offer to Kyle Tucker was for four years and $220MM, reports Jim Duquette of MLB Network on Sirius XM Radio. Jon Heyman of The New York Post adds that the offer included no deferred money and would have been slightly frontloaded, paying $120MM over the first two seasons. Will Sammon of The Athletic adds that it included a $75MM signing bonus and allowed Tucker to opt out after the second and third season.
It’s a very similar structure to the four-year, $240MM deal which Tucker accepted from the Dodgers. The opt-out provisions were identical. New York offered a higher signing bonus and the absence of deferred money, while the Dodgers went the extra $20MM on overall guarantee. The Mets’ offer would have come with a $55MM average annual value. Tucker’s agreement with L.A. will be calculated a little north of $57MM annually after adjusting the net present value to account for $30MM in deferrals.
Tucker and his camp opted for the higher guarantee and slightly stronger adjusted annual value. The four-time All-Star also joins a team that is coming off consecutive championships and will enter the 2026 season as the likeliest team to win it all again. The Mets certainly have the high-end talent to compete in the National League, but they’re coming off a second half collapse and have probably downgraded this offseason. They swapped Brandon Nimmo for Marcus Semien, signed Jorge Polanco to replace Pete Alonso, traded Jeff McNeil, and added Devin Williams and Luke Weaver to a bullpen that lost Edwin Díaz, Tyler Rogers and Ryan Helsley.
The Nimmo trade leaves the Mets in obvious need of a left fielder. Bob Nightengale of USA Today suggests they’re likely to more seriously pursue Cody Bellinger at this point. That’d probably require them to reverse course on this winter’s aversion to long-term commitments. The Yankees reportedly have a five-year offer out to Bellinger in the $155-160MM range. That’s already a hefty annual value and a decent term, though his camp at the Boras Corporation is seemingly shooting for seven years.
Harrison Bader may be the only other everyday outfielder remaining in free agency. He’s a glove-first center fielder who had a middling season for the Mets just two years ago. They might not feel he’s a significant enough upgrade over Tyrone Taylor, and he’s certainly not an approximation for the middle-of-the-order bat they were trying to land in Tucker. They could be more aggressive on the trade front for someone like Jarren Duran or Lars Nootbaar. Getting the Red Sox to deal the former would likely require parting with one of their talented starting pitchers alongside immediate infield help (i.e. Brett Baty or Mark Vientos).
Off course they did!!!
Poor Mets…
Attempted to spend 220m and called poor.
Rather have Ronny Mauricio at an AAV of 3.0M a season for the next four seasons.
Poor Mutts
It was an excellent offer to be fair. It might have come down to being one of the guys vs having to be the man in New York.
ADF…Tucker would have to be the man for the Mets? You forgetting two Dudes.
It will definitely be awesome for Tucker to be man in right field for the Dodgers
Pad,
True. Soto and Lindor are excellent batters.
I didn’t follow Tucker at all the last few seasons, so it’ll be interesting to learn about him moving forward.
Dodgers fan-
I get it. Tucker is a great pickup especially short term, but in New York he wouldn’t have to be the man. Lindor and Soto have that covered. Whether he went to NY or in LA, Tucker just has to be a tree not the whole forest.
Los Mets hicieron una gran oferta así que no se puede criticar.
23,
Es verdad, pero a veces se necesita deber
pagar demasiado. Los Mets necesitan hacer algo.
Entiendo tu punto de vista, pero aun así, me alegra que haya fallecido.
Er ist also tot?
Entiendo tu punto de vista, pero aun así, me alegra que no haya aceptado ese contrato. jaja, ¡corrector ortográfico! Sin embargo, para mí él es… jaja
Ja, das ist gut!
If he can jack tater ist also tater tot?
Los Mets nunca van a ganar.
No, quizás sí, ¿quién decide, señor? ¿Los dioses del béisbol?
Creo que quizás tuvieron suerte. Es un sobrepago enorme. imo.
Well that offer is incredible so you cannot blame the Mets here.
Id be more concerned that the Mets pivot to Bellinger now and they will blow the Yankees offer away should they deem Cody a must now. And they might.
Bellinger obviously made the right move in waiting for Tucker to sign. This should benefit him in a few ways. Both New York teams can use him and have money allocated. He probably gets a sixth year or a higher aav.
Yankees plan B just signed with the Dodgers. And the Mets can definitely use him, and clearly still need to make a move or two. I sense a minor bidding war on the margins between the two coming.
Bo probably signs with the Phillies or Jays. Suarez just came off the board. There aren’t a lot of big names left.
I dont think Tucker was ever a plan period for the Yanks.
I don’t think the Mets sway from 4 years to Bellinger here either, though they may raise his AAV. I think the Yankees go 6 years, we’ll see how it shakes out, but I agree waiting will benefit Cody.
It was reported that Tucker was the plan B if they couldn’t sign Bellinger. I thought it was an odd thing to put out, considering plan B was going to cost much more. It gave Bellinger leverage they didn’t need to give him.
Now he has more leverage than before. Unless the Yankees truly believe Bo is their answer. Then they have to fight the Phillies and other suitors for his services.
I just think that’s stuff Heyman wrote that’s an obvious answer. Who wouldn’t want Tucker, but I think anyone that wanted him understood he was priority A over Bellinger. Therefore I found that article to be BS conjecture.
The Yankees were the only ones in on Belli first because of their prior experience with him. Everyone else was, rightfully, Tucker first. Now the Yanks have competition from both the Mets and Toronto for sure and I’m less sure that they have the gumption to get it done with that competition. Especially since they have internal answers with Jasson and Jones and there’s still the trade market and some lower level FA you can mix in like Bader and Hays.
I hadn’t really thought of that, but as a RS fan, that’s good news. Perhaps Boras had asked the Mets about their intentions would be if they missed Tucker. If they liked Belli as Plan B, then holding out was the smart move.
The Jays were the joke of commenters on this site last season about missing out on free agents and hey look what happened. Not saying the same thing will happen to the Mets but clearly they e rebuilt the org from an awful farm system to one of the best. Some of us forget it took the Dodgers years to get where they are. Again, not saying the Mets will succeed but there’s a plan they’re trying to emulate and quite frankly watching the Dodgers 2010-now every team should be trying to do the same
I think the Mets are emulating the way the Dodgers built up. They aren’t there yet but they are trying. We’ll see if Stearns is the right guy for the job. It’ll take time.
This is the post I meant to make just much shorter. Dodgers rebuilding after McCourt’s mess was amazing. Mets are also a few years behind too
Sfes,
The best thing the Jays did was pay Vlad. Now they really should strongly consider bringing Bo back. Dude is a postseason gamer.
Even if his reg season stats aren’t whatever you think they should be, he was clutch, and came through. If he had two good legs the Jays likely win the series.
Not every player is built for the possession. Clearly he is.
He looks pretty good in our lineup now lol.
So close!
Well, miserable Mets fans cant blame Cohen, but they will try.
No, we will blame Stearns. Cohen has to be second guessing hiring the little wonder boy now seeing as how the only significant moves they’ve made or attempted to make were spearheaded by him, while Stearns continues to downgrade the roster all over the field and disinterest the fan base.
Geez. Always miserable.
Dugmet, I understand the offseason isn’t over yet, and I can even buy into the idea that the Mets are pretty well set up for a future run, but you can’t deny that the Mets would look a lot better right now with Alonso and Nimmo on the team instead of um… no one to play those positions.
Tucker was really the last chance to improve the offense in any significant way. I don’t see how you don’t look at this team as significantly downgraded right now. And before you tell me that we didn’t win with those guys, while that is true, we also had two terrific seasons with them in the last four years. We needed pitching and to add a bat, not subtract players.
We’ll see how it all plays out, but for now we have good reasons to be upset with the direction they’ve gone.
@Hurricane
Teams can still make trades
Ok. Just as soon as he does something to actually improve the team, I’ll stop complaining. The Mets have been hoarding prospects until they lose value for years. Time to pull the trigger.
No, you’ll always complain. It’s why you’re a Mets fan.
No one was complaining when they brought back Alonso last year, and you wouldn’t even be seeing me on these message boards if they had done so again this year. Just saying. If you’re gonna be bold, then be bold. By any objective measure, all he’s done is bring in lesser players for less money. I want to see him bring in some actual good players to elevate the talent level of the team. We have money and we have prospects. But he hasn’t actualized anything with it yet. I understand this is sort of a cliché thing to say, but he’s not the GM of the Brewers anymore. He needs to show that he can run a big market team. We haven’t been getting better.. Teams like the Red Sox are getting better, it can be done, he’s just not doing it.
I liked Pete and would not have been upset if they resigned him. But do we really think having Pete here is going to move the needle anymore than it did over the past 6 years? Only issue with Stearns is not being honest, to me he knows they were not just a player or two away from having an annual playoff team and one that could win it all. So now was the time to start over and actually build that solid foundation and get to the point of filling in the remaining wholes via FA and trades. The farm is the way to go for the time being and seeing what they have, in a short period they went from one of the work farms to the best or one of the best in MLB. And yes, we know that they don’t all pan out which is why it is good to have great depth. Out of 30 guys you hope to get a handful that are good MLB players.
Mclean/Tong/Sproat/Scott/Wenniger/Thornton/Santucci and a few others lower on the lists. Don’t need all of them to hit but if you can get a TOR arm, MOR arm and depth BOR arms you are in good shape.
Same with Benge/Jett/Reimer/Clifford/Ewing/Morabito/Suero/
Pena in addition to hopeful improvement from Baty/Alverez
If you can get 2-3 above league average starters from that group and cheap good bench pieces then it clears the path for what they need to target via trades or FA..
Mets have been a mess for decades and that is not something that can be fixed overnight, but at some point you need to pivot and try something different.
Well said SooSDaGoD. I agree, fans would be more tolerant if they just admit that the goal really isn’t to win next year. I’m not saying we should be trading McLean or Benge or all of our top guys, but certainly we have enough prospects to make some trades now. Can’t always be focused on being the smartest guy in the room. Other teams are smart too, and they want something of value if they’re gonna give up something of value. Stearns to me just seems like a guy that never wants to “lose” on a deal.
Attention friends, I will now stop complaining!
Wait youre saying there are miserable met fans?
At the end of the day they have nothing tk blame but themselves, the fact that the deal is nearly identical save for a few million on top is a clear indictment of their failure in negotiation. Clearly they need to change the way they negotiate with these top players if another team can just swoop in at thr last moment and offer their deal with extra toppings
Wrong. It’s more clear to me that he wanted to play for the Dodgers. And why wouldn’t he – they’re a great organization. They absolutely did not swoop in at the (or “thr”) last minute. They were interested in him for a while.
They said in winter meetings they had a player in mind and it would take a while, so they had to be patient.
They didn’t let on who it was. Now we know.
The Dodgers get pulled into rumors for every decent free agent. But no one really had anything close in regards to their actual interest in Tucker.
Why would they offer that to Tucker, but not Alonso?
Because Tucker has been better and is younger so he’s less likely to see significant decline over the 4 proposed years.
Is that a serious question?
Those two players aren’t on the same level, to be kind about it.
Yikes, Alonso and what army of players for an equal amount to Tucker
Athketicism, younger, and better player
Tucker could afford WBC tickets with that money. Thumbs down to the jacked-up ticket prices to the WBC in Miami.
LA is a good team and well-run organization but this is getting totally ridiculous. I will relish their comeuppance. But that’s just me.
dclj
” I will relish their comeuppance. ”
What comeuppance is that?
I’m all for other teams going all in and competing with the Dodgers. It’s better for baseball.
The Dodgers payroll went down by $88m this off-season with some contracts coming off the books. So if you add the Diaz and Tucker contracts, it’s very close to last years payroll.
Just so people know what i been saying. The dodgers have given out 1.5 billion in contracts. And dumb fans ask why other teams owners dont do the same. 1.5 BILLION can cure some countries. Is this a joke. What happened to farm system and strategic moves for free agents and smart trades. This is awful
“What happened to farm system and strategic moves for free agents and smart trades”
The Dodgers also have a top ten, probably top 5, farm system. Fueled by smart drafting, top rate development, and smart trades.
They haven’t used them so dont give me that. Mookie Freeman edman teoscar ohtani muncy snell Yamamoto glassnow to mention a few. Show me their prospects they use?
Andy Pages
Emmett Sheehan
Justin Wrobleski
Ben Casparius
…
The guys that they traded for players like Mookie Betts, Max Scherzer, Tre Turner, Yu Dervish, Manny Machado…
Juan you forgot Will Smith and Dalton Rushing.
@Taker
So what? What makes promoting a farmhand better than signing a free agent or trading for a player? The Dodgers use their farm system like the Padres do…as capital. Sometimes they get promoted, more often they get traded.
By the way these guys were home grown too: Clayton Kershaw, Cody Bellinger, Will Smith, Corey Seager, Joc Pedersen, Walker Buehler.
The money I won’t argue with you on. But the Dodgers make a ton of money and put it back on the field. That’s why Dodger Stadium is full every night. That’s why they lead MLB in home and road attendance. Fans want to see them. Not you. But everyone else.
Yes, I did
They haven’t used them ? Should I tell Will Smith that he doesn’t exist ? Sorry Pages you don’t count. Dalton Rushing nope. Wrobleski uh-uh, Sheehan ? Never happened. Vesia , Wrobleski, Henriquez no sir.
Pages Sheehan Wrobleski Casparius is a sad list for a top 10 probably top 5 farm to produce recently
You were better off just not replying than posting that list
Fans of the Dodgers are happy but the rest of us are about ready to tune out of the MLB snore fest of 162 wasted games as the Dodgers WS chances are double or 3x the next contender. This is ridiculous and unquestionably bad for baseball. This will hardly make the Royals or Pirates start spending more, and the Mets were ready to spend here, but players know that it’s the Dodgers if they want a ring now…period. To save face they get the Dodgers to put a cherry on the contract top and suit up for LA. Zzzzzzz
At game,
I keep hearing from current and former MLB players the Dodgers are a destination because of their organizational approach in terms of having an excellent clubhouse, communication, treating every player the same, and generally being a great place to play ball.
That they are committed to winning and don’t mind spending money on the players they want? It’s important, but it isn’t everything.
There’s a reason Diaz didn’t ask for a counter offer. And if the money is close, which team would you sign with?
Cure countries of what?
Is this a serious question or are you just playing dumb to be contrary?
Those were his words. I’m just trying to figure it what $1.5 billion cures a country of in his mind.
I’m not playing dumb. Dumb comment was made and I’m calling it out. There a difference. Unless he has something in mind that makes sense, then I’m all for it.
Poor Mets. Scherzer & Verlander are still available. Go get them Steve Cohen. It’s just money.
Well at least you still have Juan Soto for the next 15 years
Maybe they’ll end up trading him to the Dodgers for cash considerations and a PTBNL.
Dodgers didn’t want him then, nor now, and likely not in a few years. Dude has quite the clubhouse rep.
dipthong
“Dodgers didn’t want him then, nor now, ”
Why do you think you know that?
Everything I’ve seen has said the Dodgers were in on him. Just not for 15/$765
JUJH…it’s upping the price and knowing the Mets were/are dumb enuff to oblige. Watch the Mets miss the postseason in Year Two of the Juan Soto experiment. Year One was fascinating. Back in the day, it woulda been the Giants taking the bait but seems like SF is in a coma.
dt
“it’s upping the price”
First, how do you know that?
Second, how does that work? How does a team up the price?
Juan Soto would be playing in the Old Timers Games before his Contract is up if they still played them!
Al
“Juan Soto would be playing in the Old Timers Games before his Contract is up if they still played them!”
Soto will be 41 when his contact expires. Did 42 year olds play in the old timer’s game?
“Next 15 years”..15-20 years from now, baseball historians and longtime Mets fans will call the seismic signing of Juan Soto, one of the baseball signings of all time.
Toronto and their 10 year offer just stunned
The dodgers have a crazy TV deal that basically pays for all of this. They don’t care.
And the Japanese market brings in big bucks…
This. The Dodgers make $70-75M off of the Asian markets, so theyre basically getting Ohtani (46M AAV) and Yamamoto (32M AAV) for free.
Buena pregunta pq Alonso es un bate clave empujando carreras y salía muuuucho más económico.
Steve Cohen probably has more money than the other 29 teams combined! If they wanted Kyle Tucker, they should have told him give them a number for Uncle Steve! Well after further review he is way down to # 48 on Forbes 400 list at a net worth of only $17.4 Billion with a “B”!
Now do the Dodgers ownership group. They have enough money to make cohen their Gardner.
With inflation, $220M simply doesn’t buy as much as it once did. Oh, and the Dodgers are virtually ensuring a lockout/impasse, whenever the current CBA expires.
Looking forward to the salary floor being $175m.
There won’t be a cap. They can try revenue sharing, but most teams don’t want to open their books.
If there is a lockout, nothing will change for the big boys. If anything, we may see the Pittsburgh’s of the league be forced to actually spend more than two nickels.
If the Mets don’t budge on their disdain for a long term free agent contract then Cody Bellinger will return to the Yankees or sign with the Blue Jays. There are no more impactful CF/OF options left in free agency after Bellinger.
If the Mets desire a difference making CF/OF for 2026 and beyond it will have to come via a trade. My money says they will cave to the White Sox and secure Luis Robert Jr.
At this stage of their rebuild the ChiSox want young controllable MLB talent and/or prospects ready to debut in 2026. The Mets can offer that and a deal will get done.
“If the Mets desire a difference making CF/OF for 2026 and beyond it will have to come via a trade. My money says they will cave to the White Sox and secure Luis Robert Jr.”
I would put money on Benge having more WAR than Robert in 2026. Or even Tyrone Taylor. Robert is awful.
We’ll send you Duran but it’ll cost
I wonder if the Mets would be interested in Lawrence Butler in exchange for a SP?
@Nine
You think the Mets have a SP to spare?
@Bivouac-Sal: They have plenty to spare. Any good enough to land Butler? Not really.
Unless it’s Nolan McLean i doubt the A’s even return the phone call
Butler has upside but hasn’t shown to be that consistently good yet, so it’s overstating things to say it would take an immense package to land him.
Very team friendly contract for the next several years says otherwise
Hey man, I lived through the McCourt and the “Dodgers always lose when it counts” years. I love it and I want more
From “chokers” to “mickey mouse ring” to “ruining in baseball in a span of 7 seasons. Sit back and enjoy the dynasty peasants.
@KissTherRingspeasants
Thank you ma’am. May I have another.
That plus the Fox years. Helluva one-two sucky combo. Trading Piazza. Trading Pedro Martinez and John Wetteland for Delino De Shields. But especially Rob Manfred slapping the Asterisks on the wrist for their 2017 cheatfest. All of it combines to find the Dodgers rising up out of the water/doldrums a la Godzilla and stomping the hell out of MLB. Maybe if Manfred had been more definitive in his punishment of the Asterisks and vacated their supposed championship that year and/or made the team ineligible for the postseason for two years, all of this could have been avoided. The bear got poked. Dodgers well into their villain phase and the rest of the league can blame Manfred for this Dark Phoenix transformation.
You Dodgers fans need to study late 90s Yankees fans. No one’s buying this “Phoenix rising from the ashes narrative”. You’re the bad guys, just own it! It would actually be less annoying.
Thats cool and all, but what I really want to know is whether or not the Pittsburgh Pirates baseball franchise maybe possibly thought about the idea of maybe possibly discussing the idea of maybe possibly thinking about signing Kyle Tucker.
The Pirates are extremely happy about this signing. More CBT dollars for them.
Mets will offer bellinger 4 years 200… yankees will shift to bichette 4 years 120 and bichette will sign with Philly for less probably 3 year 110 all within next 5 days
@Dmac13
50M AAV for Bellinger is a pretty big jump from the low 30’s AAV that’s been talked about.
While Scott Boras probably just stained his shorts at the mere thought of Bellinger getting $50 million per season, in no parallel universe is Bellinger worth even close to that
I agree but there was a report I read saying he was looking for something like 45 per.. with Tucker getting what he got some team will get stupid ! I say it’s the mets and he does fit the mets needs. But I agree he isn’t worth 50. If I were the Yankees at 5/150 I would go 6th year option 6/170
😭😭😭
Dodgers need to know Tucker is good to miss a fair chunk of games per season. And with no DH AB’s to give in LA the amount of games he misses will likely go up even more
The calf strain? Sure.
But a hairline fracture? That isn’t a standard injury.
On the other hand, the Dodgers can give at bats to some of their bench guys or prospects.
tl;dr
He accepted the larger offer
Smh idk how the dodgers always pull it off 🤦🏻♂️ its getting outta hand already
This is what 60 million/year buys?
Kyle Tucker — 2025 MLB (Regular Season)
AVG: .266
HR: 22
2B: 25
RBI: 73
OBP: .377
OPS: .841
Games: 136
Kinda disappointing.
Tucker is 1 of just 6 players with 25+ bWAR and a 140 OPS+ or better since 2021.
The others are Judge, Soto, Ohtani, Freeman and Seager. He’s in a dead heat with Seager for 5th.
On baseball you can create a million different cherry picked stats.
Seager is a proven postseason beast. Kyle will have to show something special in the postseason to get close to Seager in Dodgers fans minds.
He can play like Kike during the season as long as he plays like playoff Kike in the playoffs.
I’m sure Tucker will thrive in LA. But I would still rather have Seager, given the choice.
So the Mets just got out bid. No one wanted to go for 5-6 years?
Since deferrals reduce the AAV of a contract, shouldn’t huge up-front signing bonuses increase it?
Tucker reportedly is getting a $64M signing bonus, $54M immediately (day of signing, I assume). That $54M is 22.5% of his contract, and while it’s only a few months to a few years earlier than he receives his salary, it’s such a large percentage, it seems reasonable to account for it.
Signing bonus doesn’t count towards the CBT if I remember correctly. It also protects him if games are missed in 2027.
That’s not correct.
Signing bonuses absolutely count towards the MLB Competitive Balance Tax (CBT)
but they are spread out over the life of the contract as part of the Average Annual Value (AAV) calculation, preventing teams from using large upfront bonuses to lower the annual figure and avoid the tax,
Sal,
I know they’re part of the CBT, but if a huge chunk is paid up front, it seems it should increase the NPV vs. a contract that pays an equal amount every year.
Youre right. Every one of these deals announced adds up all the deferred money the player will eventually get and gets presented to the media as what theyre getting now. Tucker really is getting a huge chunk upfront. He and his agent absolutely crushed it with this contract
gbs
There are a lot of different ways to calculate the value of the contract
IMO, the three most important ways are:
1) the straight way: 4 years, $240 million. Not the best way, but that’s what you’ll see reported.
2) The CBT value: this is important in baseball terms. It can seem a bit convoluted because it was bargained for. So there are compromises in it. Teams don’t want payments to be discounted players do. It makes the contract look bigger if future payments aren’t discounted.
The CBT value is the AAV which is calculated by: the total amount paid during the life of the contract (including the signing bonus) divided by the contract length. In this case it’s ($240 million – $30 million in deferrals) $210 million/4 years = $52.5 million. Then the deferrals are added back in. Any money that is deferred 10 or more years gets discounted. That’s why most deferrals are paid 10 years later. Assuming this is true for Tucker those are 4 payments of ($30/4) $7.5 million made starting 10 years from now.
You can use a calculator like this to estimate their value.
calculator.net/present-value-calculator.html?cyear…
Four yearly payments of $7.5 million at a 5% discount rate has a value of $26.6 million
But that $26.6 million has to be discounted 10 more years.
Doing that gives it a present value of $16.3 million.
Now the total contract is ($210 million from above plus $16.3 million) $226.3 million. Divide by 4 about $54 million per year
*My calculations always come up a little less than the official number. I’m not sure why. I think part of it is the discount rate. Whatever, the process is correct as far as I know
3) Then there is the financial present value. This is the money from the player’s and team’s perspective.
First, the signing bonus. Some bonuses are paid all at once. Some are spread out. If they are spread out, they need to be discounted. Tucker’s is paid upfront. $64 million is $64 million.
Next are the regular payments. Those are ($240 million – $64 million signing bonus – $30 million deferred) $146 million. That’s over 4 years. So $36.5 million per year. That gets discounted and has a PV of $129.4 million.
calculator.net/present-value-calculator.html?cyear…
Then add in the deferred payments of $16.3 million.
Add everything up and it’s ($64+129.4+16.3) $209.7 million
So a $240 million contract can be $240 million, $226 million or $210 million.
I’m curious to see if Cohen goes crazy and forces some big moves. Trade for Skubal, etc.
The rest of the off-season is going to be interesting.
Yankee George would’ve done that 40 years ago.
I am pretty sure Cohen will NOT go crazy. Now Stearns will put a more sane plan in place, hopefully…
Cheapskates!!!!
Does anyone actually want to be a Met? Place is a cesspool of clubhouse problems according to anyone you talk to no matter how much money they give you.
How many people in the Mets clubhouse have you talked to?
APBC
“Does anyone actually want to be a Met”
Yes
See: Jorge Polanco. Luke Weaver. Devin Williams.
lol dodgers prob? Even if he sucks the dodgers won’t feel the sting. They are literally printing cash.
Perennial GG RF’er is a huge stretch. He won one 4 years ago. Has been above average at times, the last couple years he’s been average or even below average. He could be better this year, but perennial GG RF is ridiculous
Dodgers paid Conforto $17m to do nothing last season. Tucker should be better than that, right?
If Conforto had been a league average hitter, they would have been so much better last season.
As it stands, Pages is the #9 hitter possibly.
The Mets made a good offer…but it doesn’t match the constant narrative that Uncle Steve won’t be outbid….or the recent “where there’s smoke”.
For 70M less they could have resigned Alonso.
Pete Alonso was never going back to New York once he told the reporters in the clubhouse in Miami after Game 162 that he would opt out. Such is the legacy of LOLmets.
Enjoy baseball this season because their will be a long stoppage after this season and this will be a major topic. Defferals. The players will say it criples there way to earn and the owners will cry poor. Yet the owners will not show their books and are the ones actually paying out these deals. Something needs to change!
$60m per year for a 4 WAR player??? Just dumb!
Wow. To think, who did Alonso piss off…
Tucker needed a team where he is the 4th or 5th best player, at best.
He is a super high floor player, as consistent as they come, and his ceiling is reasonable enough.
But he prefers hanging back in the shadows and keeping the spotlight and pressure off of himself.
In L.A. he is behind Mookie, Ohtani, and Freeman and maybe even Will Smith and some pitchers.
I wonder what the Mets pivot to now. Will Bellinger take short term high AAV now?
The next collective bargaining agreement will include owners and players sharing revenues, it will come down to the split of the pie and what revenues are included. The bigger issue will be how the owners decide to share revenues to allow the players to get there percentage of the pie. The current system isn’t maintainable, over a third of the league with payrolls under what Dodgers will pay Tucker plus the luxury tax penalty, a third of teams without a local TV deal due to regional sports networks going bankrupt.. A lockout will happen and we won’t see baseball for awhile potentially years but in the end a fair system for both the players and owners will happen… Hopefully I will still be around to see it …
My, totally implausible, solutoin.
End the draft. End team control. End arbitration. Everyone is a free agent from day one.
Massive revenue sharing to even out the playing field. Maybe not completely equal. I do think MLB benefits from some dominant teams. The Dodgers being both the best team in baseball and hugely popular in Japan has benefits for example.
Without being critical of the Mets. I think Tucker made the better choice. Dodgers must be a 98% lock to make the playoffs. Mets, probably no where near that. Why not play for a likely winner? Mets might be one, but it’s to be proven. And it’s still not $400M. These are not dumb owners
Mets should sign Bo Bichette and figure where he can play in the infield.
I wonder if bichette would ever agree to first base ? Polanco could DH
Kyle Tucker picked a great time to be a free agent lol he is not worth this kind of money.
Money isn’t as scarce a resource most MLB owners/groups would have you think it is. Every single organization could have afforded this but they chose not to. All things being equal most teams would have to beat a dodgers offer not match it.
60 million a year buys you a lot.
Just because you can afford a Ferrari doesn’t mean you buy 1 for 2x the price
Usually the player has more charisma fo sure, but this is different times for baseball. The Dodgers will likely get out of paying for a full year of this deal when we lose a full season.
Again, this allows Stearns to spread out that money. Unless he does something goofy.
This just raised the price on Bellinger and Bichette, and likely slowed their market to a crawl.
Not to worry…Bellinger signs with the Mets this weekend now for a slightly less ridiculous contract.
Cashman ultimately is left to choose between Austin Hays or Harrison Bader to platoon with Dominguez in LF.
From a lineup construction perspective, I don’t love three lefty OFs (even with switch hitting Lindor at the top of the order). I don’t mind keeping the Yankees honest on Bellinger, but he’d also be a third lefty OF and likely require a longer financial commitment.
This is about the time I pick up the phone and inquire about Luis Robert. As good as the Mets’ MLB-ready pitching prospects are, they still need an upgrade in CF to have a chance at competing. I personally prefer taking on the injury risk and upside of Robert over Tyrone Taylor. Austin Hays and Harrison Bader are among the next-best OF options available after Bellinger, but I’d take Robert over either of them any day of the week.
Yeah, the Yankees are NOT getting Bellinger now. These teams holding firm on market value are getting cooked. After this Bregman’s deal looks like a steal.
Bassitt, Kopech, Hays, Lowe
Saves prospects, increases the offensive floor, allows both Jett and Benge obviously to break through (Benge platoon in left, Jett in center with Taylor), provides cover and innings in the rotation and makes the pen pretty formidable.
All at a short term investment that will likely be Bellingers yearly salary (30-35), and saves $60m over Tucker when considering CBT penalties.
No on Luis Robert…non no non. Please no.
Life is a funny thing . What makes you laugh can also make you cry.(vice versa). Come mid season Mets fans may be ringing the bells that this contract was passed over. Who knows.
Dodgers will be regretting this rudiculous contract for a not so great player.
Still too much. You would think this guy is Reggie Jackson born again getting this kind of money. I will keep boycotting all MLB merchandise and games. How ridiculous has this gotten? People can no longer afford to catch a game with concessions as a family. It is almost criminal how expensive it is now.
Mets seemed quite cheap with this offer. Good that he took the Dodgers offer.
Lucky for the Mets! He doesn’t merit that much money.