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Mets Prefer Trade Market To Free Agency In Rotation Search

By Steve Adams | January 8, 2026 at 11:07am CDT

The Mets are still in the market for upgrades to their starting pitching group, but they prefer to bolster the rotation by way of a trade rather than via free agency, Ken Rosenthal and Will Sammon of The Athletic report.

It’s not exactly a surprising revelation. We’re one month removed from initial reporting that the Mets were reluctant to sign a free agent pitcher to a long-term contract, and the Mets have since shown aversions to long-term deals for incumbent stars like Edwin Diaz and especially Pete Alonso — both of whom have now signed elsewhere. The Mets also traded the remaining five years of Brandon Nimmo’s contract for three of Marcus Semien. It seems there’s a real push to avoid clogging up the long-term books with many major deals beyond the lengthy commitments to Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor.

It’s worth noting, too, that the Mets are deep in both top prospects and young big leaguers that could be marketed to other clubs. Their farm system is generally regarded as one of the ten best in the game. Following this year’s draft and trade deadline, Baseball America ranked the Mets’ system ninth in the game. MLB.com ranked it seventh. BA counts five Mets prospects (Carson Benge, Nolan McLean, Jonah Tong, Jett Williams, Brandon Sproat) among the top 100 in the game. Young infielders Mark Vientos, Ronny Mauricio and Luisangel Acuña are all available in trade talks as well, per Rosenthal and Sammon.

One of the market’s most notable trade candidates, Miami righty Edward Cabrera, came off the board yesterday when he was traded to the Cubs for a three-player package headlined by top young outfielder Owen Caissie. Presumably, the Mets would’ve had to pay an even steeper price as a division rival, but Cabrera’s removal from the market only thins out the supply and creates more urgency among teams still looking for meaningful rotation upgrades (e.g. Mets, Yankees, Orioles, D-backs, Padres).

The Mets have been connected to a handful of possible trade targets this winter. They’ve reportedly spoken to the Padres about Nick Pivetta and to the Brewers about Freddy Peralta. They were also among the teams in on Cabrera and had some interest in Minnesota’s Joe Ryan before the Twins signaled that they’re not planning to move him (or rotation-mate Pablo Lopez). They’ve surely at least checked in on other prominent and under-the-radar names on the market alike.

The Mets went to three years to sign Devin Williams in free agency, acquired three years of Semien and (reportedly) were unwilling to go beyond three years for Pete Alonso. Their free-agent deals with infielder Jorge Polanco and righty Luke Weaver only span a two-year term. There’s been no firm indication that they’re wholly against surpassing three years for any free agent, but that certainly seems to be the team’s comfort zone with additions to the roster.

In fact, since being named president of baseball operations, David Stearns hasn’t committed more than three years to any free agent other than Soto, whose signing was more of an ownership-level move. Stearns’ largest signing after Soto was Sean Manaea, whose three-year, $75MM deal contains more than $23MM in deferred money. Currently, the Mets only have four players on guaranteed contracts in 2028 (Soto, Lindor, Williams, Semien). By 2029, Soto and Lindor are the only two players on the books.

If there’s a reluctance to guarantee players anything into 2029 and beyond, as at least ostensibly seems to the be the case, that’ll make it quite difficult to land any of the top remaining free agent names. The Mets sat down with Framber Valdez back in November, and Rosenthal and Sammon indicate that there’s still some interest there. Of course, signing Valdez would surely require going beyond three years — likely to at least a five-year pact. Ranger Suarez, like Valdez, figures to be looking for at least a five-year deal in free agency. If either pitcher lingers into February or March, perhaps they’ll pivot to a shorter-term deal with opt-out opportunities. Beyond that, a match with the Mets seems hard to envision — at least based on the team’s recent tendencies under the current baseball operations regime.

RosterResource currently projects the Mets for a $294MM payroll and just over $296MM of luxury-tax obligations. That puts the Mets about $8MM shy of the top tier of penalization, which they’ve crossed in each of the past four seasons. They currently owe a 95% tax on any dollars spent up to $304MM worth of tax obligations. From that point on, they’ll be taxed at a 110% rate for every dollar spent.

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  1. Steven hempel

    18 hours ago

    Tong or bust for Freddy

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    • mrmet17

      18 hours ago

      Bust

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    • Jdawginsc

      18 hours ago

      No in my opinion. Sproat maybe…

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      • Steven hempel

        16 hours ago

        Yeah we don’t want a 25 year old who gets his fastball hit at a high clip😂

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    • Seamaholic

      18 hours ago

      Freddy, though one of the most underrated great pitchers in the league, is a rental. You’re not getting six years of Tong for him.

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      • gormanthomasrules

        17 hours ago

        Then hit the bricks, sir. We know what our return is for an elite pitcher regardless of contract length. Tong plus another top 10 guy. We’ll take Vientos as well, but not without the other two pieces.

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        • Jdawginsc

          16 hours ago

          Matt Arnold, is that you? Haha.

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        • Harold Skunk

          16 hours ago

          You must be smoking some of that Puja Gooboo Dank Dank..

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        • holecamels35

          11 hours ago

          Burnes was better and traded for a crappy 3B and tweener starter/reliever.

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      • bean54446

        17 hours ago

        Some what disagree he is not your typical rental he only makes 8 million and is a solid top of the rotation type pitcher he also never gets hurt and goes 6 plus most ever game

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        • batterseye

          17 hours ago

          He actually has some issues getting to 6 plus. But he’s totally solid. I could well imagine a matchup with the Mets for some significant pieces.

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        • bean54446

          17 hours ago

          Well according to espn stats for 2025 he made at least 5 innings in all games but 2 and I belive one was due to a rain delay as a brewer fan he is solid as they come hate to lose him but it’s the way it is in baseball.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          15 hours ago

          Bean, he’s still a rental and unless you firmly believe a championship is in sight in 26 or that you could flip him at the deadline to get back what you gave up, you don’t make this deal. Peralta is worth it for those believing in 26 but not for those with as many questions as the Mets currently have. If they first sign a big everyday free agent or two, the narrative changes.

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      • CarverAndrews

        16 hours ago

        I see a ton of prospect overvaluation with every Mets rumor. When talking about trading for top notch pitching, it is going to cost something that is hurtful to get a deal done.

        McLean? Sure, you keep him unless you are getting a controlled stud in return. Tong and Sproat are certainly intriguing prospects with upside, but any competitive team is loathe to simply thrust 3 virtual rookies into the rotation at the same time. The odds of all three working out are rather low, so you spend trade capital to make your team better.

        The reality is that the ask for a return for the likes of a Skubal, or the lesser but still really good Peralta starts with McLean, and then it morphs into Tong plus plus. Why would the Brewers or Tigers give up an elite arm without getting a potential upside arm plus more in return? Tigers don’t give up Skubal unless it is McLean.

        This is why trades are hard to make.

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        • Jdawginsc

          15 hours ago

          They are both rentals. It makes no sense for the Mets to gut the system for a rental.

          But I agree that good trades are hard to come by. I think Cabrera’s trade proved that.

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        • KennyF’nPowers

          13 hours ago

          Great point. Also why trade for a Peralta or Skubal when they’re going to demand 5+ years and even more for Skubal and “3 year contract only” Stearns won’t resign. Why would he trade away young controllable pitchers for 1 year rentals that he won’t resign. This 💩 head Stearns should just go with the kids and move one or two of the guys in the Rotation (i.e. Peterson) for some prospects. At least the kids he’ll control for 5 years. Unless Cohen overrides Stearns the Mets will never sign a top FA Pitcher. Expect more Manaea type FA SP signings from Stearns. At least until he’s hopefully gone in 3 years or earlier.

          If you’re always rational about every free agent, you will finish third on every free agent.”

          -Andrew Friedman

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      • Steven hempel

        16 hours ago

        Then you ain’t getting him. We’re not trading him for the sake of trading him

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        • CarverAndrews

          16 hours ago

          And conversely, the Mets won’t get a front of the rotation arm without giving up a trade package that makes y’all whine and cry about it.

          That is the reality of making trades. And frankly, the Mets have a far bigger need to bring in a couple of #1/2 type starting pitchers than teams such as the Tigers or Brewers have to trade their elite arms.

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        • Klink

          15 hours ago

          This guy gets it.

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  2. Straws Varshow

    18 hours ago

    Jose Berrios come on down.

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    • vtadave

      18 hours ago

      Probably get him for a bag of balls (i.e. Acuna and filler).

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  3. SandlotBenchWarmer

    18 hours ago

    I propose Thomas Harrington and Nick Yorke for Mark Vientos.

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    • Salzilla

      18 hours ago

      Better off getting Steve Hartington, at least he can swing a bat!

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    • joew

      16 hours ago

      Pass on Vientos, he can’t play defense. If he could i’d be for it.. but if he could fair chance they wouldn’t trade him 😀

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  4. LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedAgain&Again&AgainFireStearns

    18 hours ago

    The rotation is basically 5 guys who are 3rd or 4th starters on most teams and a wildcard in McLean. We need an ace. Freddy Peralta is not an ace. Nick Pivetta is not an ace. Joe Ryan is not an ace. The only aces that are realistic in a trade currently would be Hunter Greene, Logan Webb, Tarik Skubal, Jacob Degrom and Mackenzie Gore (debatable ace). If it is not one of those 5 guys then I don’t want them to trade for a starter

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    • Oppo nacho

      18 hours ago

      Gore is probably the only one of that group that realistically gets traded

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    • RunDMC

      18 hours ago

      What about Gore makes him even a ‘debatable ace’? He’s a 4.00+ career ERA/FiP. I get playing for a bad team/defense, but high BB/contact at times, not an ace. Peralta just had an ace-like year. Even only 1 year of control (and ability to recoup prospect when making QO and he turns down…), better argument for him…and you’d be presumably giving up less for him than multiple years of Gore.

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    • Formerly Depressed Mets Fan

      18 hours ago

      Think ur underestimating Peralta and Ryan, each are as good if not better than Gore. Additionally every report indicates that Greene and DeGrom are not available, Webb is not even in discussing cause SF is not moving their best pitcher when they are trying to get better and have the money to keep him. Skubal has been in the rumor mill all offseason but recent reporting is the Tigers don’t want to move him and it seems less and less likely he will be moved. So of the guys you think are Aces it’s Gore or nothing. Personally I would be thrilled if they got Peralta. Putting him at the top of the rotation with McLean, a fully healthy season from Senga and Manaea gives u a very good top 4. Then you have to figure out what to do with Peterson who has shown he can be a number 2 SP and Holmes who was our most consistent starter last year. Plus young guys in Tong, Sprot, and Scott (coming back from TJ). Sure I would love Skubal but I’m not saying it’s Skubal or bust with this rotation.

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      • enc1n0

        18 hours ago

        plus, if/when the Tigers make Skubal available, nobody will be able to beat the packages the Dodgers can compile

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        • RunDMC

          17 hours ago

          @enc1no — It depends on what DET wants. LAD is position heavy, while NYM is pitching heavy (with some position prospects to boot). And pitching prospects usually are more valuable.

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      • ohyeadam

        17 hours ago

        Twins also have Pablo Lopez who could be available and is in the same tier as the listed players imo. Costs a little more than the arbitration guys but that might be a positive by bringing down the prospect price.

        So long as one of the Mets failed infielders isn’t part of the deal I’d be okay with either Joe or Pablo getting a chance to win

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    • The Raven

      18 hours ago

      There is no way the Mets or anyone else is getting Skubal if the Tigers want to compete in 2026. Otherwise, why bother?

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    • Seamaholic

      18 hours ago

      Peralta is a top five pitcher in the NL. In fact I wouldn’t argue too hard about top 2 or 3. He’s absolutely an ace and way better than Gore.

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      • Klink

        15 hours ago

        Hard to argue top 3 considering Skenes, Sanchez, and Yamamoto all reside in the NL. Top 5 is reasonable.

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    • IHeartSteveCohen

      17 hours ago

      Bro, how are you calling yourself a Mets’ fan and spell it “Degrom?” It’s deGrom. It’s always been Jacob deGrom. I know the capitalization is unusual, but that’s precisely why it’s so easy to remember. Also, he’s not coming back to the Mets. He didn’t want to stay in New York, it’s not the kind of lifestyle he prefers.

      Skubal is going to cost the richest deal for a pitcher in history with a lot of years, AND an enormous prospect package. at least 3 top 10 in the system and 2 of those in the top 5. The Mets don’t want to do long-term deals with starters, I don’t think that philosophy is going to change for Skubal. They’d likely go 5 years but he will get at least 7 years on the market, maybe more, and that means it’s very likely he will hit free agency.

      I actually think the mid-rotation types are far more realistic because they won’t cost the enormous prospect capital it would take to acquire, and they won’t demand the length of years in a contract for an extension.

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  5. TennVol

    18 hours ago

    I wonder if the Mets and the Jays could get together on a trade with Lindor heading to the Jays and the Mets getting a package of players like Barger, Geminez, Lukes and a prospect or two?

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    • LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedAgain&Again&AgainFireStearns

      18 hours ago

      @TennVol I’d give Lindor away for nothing as long as the other team took on his whole contract. He is wayyyyy overpaid and only shows up for about 2 months of the season, does absolutly nothing the other 3 months of the season

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      • Formerly Depressed Mets Fan

        18 hours ago

        Please remove anything Mets fan claim related to ur account, frankly remove anything baseball because you clearly do not watch or understand the game. Lindor has been one of the top 5 players in baseball since he joined the Mets. He has had some of this teams biggest moments since joining the team and at this time last year “fans” like you were either nonexistent or magically all your posts about how he sucks were deleted and your accounts were calling for him to go into the HOF with a Mets hat on.

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        • PiazzaParty

          17 hours ago

          I think more than half the “Mets fans” here are just loser Yankee fans from Jersey with nothing better to do

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        • LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedAgain&Again&AgainFireStearns

          15 hours ago

          @Formerly Depressed Mets Fan do those biggest moments include when he thumbs down the fans? Everyone seems to forget about that

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        • rct

          12 hours ago

          @PiazzaParty: RobRock30, Jackstrawb, this dude, and even chandlerbing have claimed to be Mets fans when literally all they do is bash the Mets. It’s bizarre behavior.

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      • IHeartSteveCohen

        17 hours ago

        Bro. How old are you? I suggest you watch as many games as possible over the next 10 years before coming back and posting.

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      • ny papi

        15 hours ago

        Did this hatred of Lindor of yours start a couple weeks ago?

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    • scissormetimbers

      18 hours ago

      Barger is a beast, not a chance. Hes like my most untouchable blue jay, ahead of vlad but behind yesavage

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      • IHeartSteveCohen

        17 hours ago

        As a Mets’ fan, I think he’s fantastic, I think you guys have a really good one there, congrats.

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    • Rsox

      18 hours ago

      Why would Toronto want to add Lindor’s salary while dumping 3 inexpensive young players in the process?

      Hypothetically, if they were to make such a deal you can guarantee that for payroll purposes Santander and Berrios would be going back to the Mets, not the 3 young guys

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      • Formerly Depressed Mets Fan

        18 hours ago

        1st the Mets are not trading Lindor, 2nd if u think it would be a salary dump move, go back and look at his stats while not high, because you must have been smoking the first time.

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    • Alfred E Neuman

      18 hours ago

      TennVol: GIMENEZ. And the Mets sent him to Cleveland in the original Lindor trade.

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    • Formerly Depressed Mets Fan

      18 hours ago

      Mets are not trading Lindor, full stop. Ignore the clueless “Mets fans” in ur comments. He is a top 5 player in the league since he joined the Mets and they are not giving him up. They are not tearing it all down, the guys that left were either FAs that choose to leave on their own or were declining/blocking younger better players from getting a chance to play every day.

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    • jvent

      17 hours ago

      The Mets need pitching and a power bat, those players are not lol, maybe the Mets and Yanks can make a Lindor deal for (Gil, Spencer Jones and Stanton (DH), the Mets can put Jett Williams at SS. The extra $$ saved the Mets can sign Bellinger.

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      • Alfred E Neuman

        15 hours ago

        jvent: Nobody is taking Stanton and his contract. NOBODY.

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        • Klink

          15 hours ago

          I have Arte Moreno on line 1.

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  6. Leo Schnauzer

    18 hours ago

    Kris Bubic book your tour of Ellis Island now!

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    • Jdawginsc

      18 hours ago

      That would be less cost prohibitive than Skubal, Peralta etc… and allow Tong, Sproat, even McLean, Santucci, other guys with helium another year.

      Elsewhere I suggested Vientos, and maybe something like Morabito and Girton.

      Skubal is not signing with anyone and will likely end up in LA (per a source from earlier this season).

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    • IHeartSteveCohen

      17 hours ago

      This is who I’d really like. Pretty much my dream as a prospect hugger. Wondering if a package like Sproat, Reimer or Clifford, and Santucci would get it done.

      I’m guessing they’d have to include Jett or Tong instead of Sproat, and honestly I wouldn’t mind that, but for one of those guys, I probably don’t give the third prospect.

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      • Jdawginsc

        17 hours ago

        For Bubic?

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        • IHeartSteveCohen

          16 hours ago

          Yeah. You object to that? If so, why? Bubic is pretty awesome.

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        • Ma4170

          14 hours ago

          Sproat reimer santucci too much for bubic imo. Substitute thornton Watson or morabito for santucci and i could see that. Santucci has big upside and sproat is already a low top 100 and reimer a fast riser soon to be top 100.

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        • Jdawginsc

          14 hours ago

          Not the target but the price.

          For Bubic, who I like but look at the career stats, I can understand Sproat OR Santucci being an ask, but I probably would offer

          Vientos, Morabito and/OR one of Wenninger or Thornton. He’s a rental.

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        • imissjoebuzas

          3 mins ago

          I like your final offer for Bubic, and/or maybe they could modify the offer and entice San Diego to give Pivetta and his contract in return.
          Either way, it is becomes prospect capital for shorter term commitment.

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        • imissjoebuzas

          2 mins ago

          By modify, i mean go back to MA41’s offer.

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  7. CaseyAbell

    18 hours ago

    Hey, even Cohen gets tired of losing a quarter-billion a year on that team. Not to mention supporting all those other teams with luxury-tax money. So a tiny bit of belt-tightening is not a huge surprise.

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    • Camikey

      18 hours ago

      They are NOT tightening their belt. Mets will be committing another $50M in 2026 salary..

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      • Jdawginsc

        17 hours ago

        I don’t think so. I think they have around $25-30 m in flexibility to start the season. Cohen said he would think the payroll would be the same to start the year.

        For those saying he is cheaping out really don’t get it. (Not directed at you Camikey)
        First, it will be a top five payroll club.
        Second, he paid $90m in tax penalties last year, basically funding small market teams that don’t follow the CBA, but force the tax system to benefit themselves.
        Third, to do what fans would want would cost more than $70m to do. $70 m for two FAs would cost cohen $154m dollars (110%tax).
        Fourth, he was clear that he’d spend at first then allow the farm to offset FA salaries.
        Fifth, you can’t guarantee a WS for fans. It’s not realistic. Dodgers almost lost the WS. Folks forget that.

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    • MetsSchmets!

      17 hours ago

      That’s not what’s happening. They’re going to match or exceed last year’s payroll

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      • CaseyAbell

        17 hours ago

        In the short run the payroll might increase a little. But Cohen seems to be getting leary of big long-term commitments, as MLBTR notes. After a while anybody gets tired of paying all that money to other teams that don’t spend nearly as much.

        Of course, bringing in Stearns was something of a tell in itself. Cohen saw how he made a much smaller payroll work in Milwaukee. Not saying Cohen is going super-cheap, but a teensy-weeny bit of fiscal sanity seems to be creeping in.

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      • IHeartSteveCohen

        16 hours ago

        That’s what I’ve been thinking as well, but I don’t think they are going to go to the lengths that Bellinger wants in terms of contract length. I think the Mets won’t go to 6 years, and probably don’t want to go even 5. I feel like he’ll eventually take the best 5-year deal offered, and I just don’t know if that’s the Mets.

        Does Kyle Tucker want to go 2 years for $45M with perhaps a player option for a third year at say, $36M, and try to retest the market after his age 30 season? Or would he rather go the long-term security but for a lower AAV? I don’t think the Mets go to $400M over 10 years. I’m not even sure the Mets would go that far. in contract length. I think their best shot at either player is if they decide to sign a short-term deal to try and get a better market down the road. I think that’s more likely for Tucker than Bellinger, who I imagine will probably capitulate to a 5 or 6 year deal.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      17 hours ago

      Does this mean my contest prediction of Tucker to the Mets is going to be a bust?

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      • CaseyAbell

        17 hours ago

        Yeah, watch Cohen turn around and give Tucker $400 million for ten years. Ha-ha. I think that might get Stearns to leap off the Empire State Building.

        Now if the market collapses to short-term opt-out deals for Tucker, then the Mets might get interested.

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        • CaseyAbell

          16 hours ago

          Just to wrap this up, obviously Cohen is not going to run the Mets like Attanasio runs the Brewers. But even Cohen has to think: “Attanasio runs a payroll that’s a small fraction of mine. He won 97 games last year and I won 83. And I’m paying him millions in luxury-tax money? What is wrong with this picture?”

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        • RagingBull

          13 hours ago

          CaseyAbell,

          Nothing. All owners want value. But to win a WS sometimes a team has to overspend on an ace and hope for other breaks. Brewers run a fine and admirable organization, but have no WS trophies. If going to the playoffs is good enough, then maximizing value is a reasonable approach. I tend to think with Cohen’s investment so far, he wants a trophy in his lifetime.

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  8. Rsox

    18 hours ago

    Toronto totally f’d the market up with the Cease contract. Before all is said and done i wouldn’t at all be surprised if Valdez, Suarez, and Gallen all end up with one year deals just to finally sign. Guy’s like Giolito, Buehler, Tyler Anderson and the rest of the lower tiers may be looking at varying degrees of one year or minor league deals and some may not get signed at all

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  9. Sunday Lasagna

    18 hours ago

    “Since being named president of baseball operations, David Stearns hasn’t committed more than three years to any free agent other than Soto, whose signing was more of an ownership-level move.“
    If McLean, Benge or any of the other top talent pans out, locking them up through their arbitration years and into a couple of free agent years is the course many other GMs have taken. Will be interesting to see if Stearns only offers 3 years to free agents and veteran Mets but goes long term with young homegrown players.

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  10. Oppo nacho

    18 hours ago

    Is benge on his way out?

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    • Jdawginsc

      18 hours ago

      Why do you say that?

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      • Oppo nacho

        18 hours ago

        Idk just guessing, Cassie went yesterday, the Mets are not great at signing pitchers and they have some homegrown ones that they shouldn’t part with.

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    • rct

      18 hours ago

      I would doubt this very seriously. Right now their outfield is Soto, Tyrone Taylor, and a bunch of scrubs (and you could argue Taylor is a scrub). Unless they make a big splash with a trade or FA, Benge is going to be needed as a starting outfielder.

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    • IHeartSteveCohen

      16 hours ago

      Almost definitely not. He’s the most untouchable prospect they have, to include McLean. They love Benge. Stearns has already said he will have a real chance to make the OD roster, and he’s a guy with just 90 ABs at the AAA level, and hit .178/.272/.583 in them. But the thing is his plate discipline was still elite as well as his advanced metrics. He had an xBA about .100 points higher than actual, avg EV in the 90th percentile, HH% in the 93rd percentile, xwOBA in the 91st, etc.

      If Benge looks good in CF in the Spring and looks at least adequate at the plate, he’s making the OD roster. I’d bet he’s pretty much an everyday player by June 1st if not before.

      If we agree the Mets don’t want to give out long-term contracts to starting pitchers, that means they aren’t going to part with a major prospect package for Skubal just to lose him to free agency, and it would take a major prospect package. And Skubal is about the only guy with a realistic chance of being on the trade market I can think of the Mets would trade Benge for.

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      • Ma4170

        14 hours ago

        Agree.. i see them willing to trade sproat, tong (i would hate to see that) or jett, but not benge

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      • rct

        12 hours ago

        @IHeartSteveCohen: Have to agree with you about Benge. I live in Syracuse so I got to see Benge up close a few times this year and while I’m not a scout by any means, he was impressive. I also liked what little I saw of Jett. I’m looking forward to seeing what they can do at the MLB level. Clifford also showed some nice power.

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  11. Old York

    18 hours ago

    Call the Brewers for Freddy Peralta.

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    • gormanthomasrules

      17 hours ago

      Cough up them prospects pally.

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      • Old York

        17 hours ago

        @gormanthomasrules

        pally? Who’s pally?

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      • Lee Harvey Oddball

        15 hours ago

        I’d give them Tong, but they have to send back Peralta and the good Megill brother.

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        • gormanthomasrules

          15 hours ago

          Then don’t forget Jett Williams at the very least. We don’t make trades that don’t benefit us. Last time the Brewers did that, it was with your GM.

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  12. rct

    18 hours ago

    i still don’t really see them doing anything with the rotation. I’ve mentioned it several times before but they already have nine starters vying for the rotation right now with a few others in the minors who could be ready by season’s end. Senga, Manaea, Peterson, Holmes, McLean, Sproat, Tong, Christian Scott, and Cooper Criswell. Plus Wenninger and Santucci to monitor in AAA as the season progresses.

    Anything can happen, but I really don’t see any rotation moves between now and opening day. The need another reliever or two and they need an outfielder much more than they need to add another starter.

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    • Camikey

      17 hours ago

      You make some really good points. I agree that the outfield is the priority at the moment, but once they get clarity there (depending on what happens) they may circle back to the rotation. I think the Mets really want either Tucker or Bellinger but if they get neither they’ll grab a much cheaper, second-tier OF option like Hays or Robert and look at making a starting pitching splash…. maybe they give Valdez a high AAV, relatively short-term deal, or perhaps they trade for Pivetta. You are correct that they probably need to bring in another veteran arm for the bullpen, too (preferably a lefty).

      Either way, this team is far from finished. At least two big moves are still coming, and likely several smaller ones, too…

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      • rct

        17 hours ago

        I would love a lefty RP, too. Minter is supposed to be back, but another one wouldn’t hurt.

        Your suggestion of Valdez at a high AAV is the only move I really think makes sense, rotation-wise. To me there’s no sense in adding another mid-rotation, #3-5 guy because they have so many of those already. An ace or #2 level pitcher like Valdez, *and* on a short term deal, would be a sensible move. But then you’d have 10 starters on the 40 man and would need to deal someone.

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        • Ma4170

          14 hours ago

          They’d probably have to go close to 3/120 to do it though and he’s really not worth that if you use wheeler as a comp.

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    • RagingBull

      13 hours ago

      rct,

      Good points but the problem is that last year’s starters all failed at the end (IL, ineffectiveness, etc.), save for McLean. But leaning on a core of young starters is extremely risky because they haven’t been tested through the rigors of a full season and even if the young core pitches lights out, they’ll be on an innings limit and can’t be expected to make a deep run in the playoffs. If you believe the talking points coming from the front office, they say they want to win it all now. And in many respects there’s a case for this as it would be a shame to waste the peak of Lindor and Soto. However, Lindor is already in decline and Soto has too many defensive liabilities to stay in right field for very long.

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      • rct

        12 hours ago

        @RagingBull: agree on pretty much everything you’re saying. I actually *don’t* believe the FO chatter that they want to win it all now, though. I think this year is an evaluation year (for all of their prospects that are in MLB or MLB-ready*) with the hopes of squeaking into the playoffs. If they were truly trying to win this year, they’d sign Tucker or maybe Bellinger, and they’d swing a trade for a true ace. They could still do those things but I would be surprised.

        *starting pitching – McLean, Sproat, Tong, Christian Scott, maybe Wenninger, Thornton, Santucci at the end of the season; relievers – Dylan Ross, Ryan Lambert; position players – Benge, Jett, Clifford, plus Morabito is Rule 5-ed onto the roster

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        • Ma4170

          11 hours ago

          Dont forget ewing. With his speed and hitting skills, he’s probably not as far from mlb as some think. And they could use his athleticism – from benge and jett too

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        • Jdawginsc

          11 hours ago

          Missing some pitchers who might be under the radar, but equally intriguing…Gomez, Girton, Watson, etc…

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  13. enc1n0

    17 hours ago

    if Stearns can pull of the big Padres deal mentioned late last year (Pivetta, Miller, Laurean and one other RP), it solves a lot of the problems Mets fans are freaking about

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    • Oppo nacho

      17 hours ago

      They’d be sending a lot back for all that

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      • Camikey

        17 hours ago

        Yeah, that’s not realistic. Miller alone would cost them like Benge, Tong, and more.

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      • enc1n0

        17 hours ago

        i recall reading something like Tong, Sproat, Senga, Vienos to start with

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      • enc1n0

        17 hours ago

        i recall reading something like Tong, Sproat, Senga, Vienos to start with.

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      • llokokokok

        17 hours ago

        They really don’t have enough to trade with the padres. They don’t want Vientos (isn’t good) or Senga (is never healthy) . It would be all prospects and the padres need MLB players. Everyone is overrating Mclean like he has done anything but 48 mlb innings is basically nothing so that can’t even be the main “MLB” piece. Padres say no thanks in pretty much every scenario.

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        • IHeartSteveCohen

          16 hours ago

          Yeah the Mets would say no as well. They aren’t doing a deal for those 3 guys plus another reliever. And Benge would be off the table, too, even for Miller straight up.

          But would the Pads trade Pivetta and Laureano for Sproat, Ryan Clifford, Will Watson, and a lottery ticket? Yeah, I think that isn’t too far from being realistic, I think the Pads might jump all over that.

          If Bellinger or Tucker doesn’t happen, I do think Laureano has a really strong chance of moving to the Mets. And everyone is waiting for those two dominoes to fall, and that’s probably not happening until at least mid-Feb earliest.

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        • llokokokok

          15 hours ago

          Of those who is a proven mlb player? Padres are win now (There may be no other team as win now as the padres, maybe phillies) and you are saying to trade away proven MLB players to get back prospects. Preller can go scout prospects or turn minor league invites into something not that far of a quality of the players you mentioned (for 2026 performance I mean). No, padres would not do that.

          The problem is Mets and Padres have similar needs so trading with each other is probably not a fit. We both need SP and power bats (we need RHP 1B/DH lefty masher type)

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        • IHeartSteveCohen

          14 hours ago

          They have enough to trade with anybody. They have a really deep farm with a lot of prospects at the ML level or close. If the Padres would only accept proven talent, then why would they even trade Laureano and Pivetta in the first place? You think someone’s going to give them younger, better, and cheaper proven MLB players back?

          The Padres don’t have hardly any high-end prospect talent in the upper minors. Sproat, Clifford, and Watson are all close, the first two are knocking on the door. Sproat already has 4 ML starts, and while the final stat line on those starts aren’t pretty (besides 6 IP of shut out ball against Texas), he had a 2.80 FIP in those starts, is a recent top 100 prospect, who has 3 above average pitches including a really strong change up. The Padres, if they wanted to be aggressive with him, could play him right away or work with him for a couple more months in the minors, but he will very likely be a ML pitcher for at least half the season this year. Clifford will start the season in AAA after hitting 29 homers in 481 ABs across AA and AAA last year and is the #8 1B prospect in baseball. Padres top 1B prospect is 2-3 years away.. Clifford could be on the big club as soon as the 2nd half this year. Will Watson would be the best SP prospect in the Padres system right now at the AA level or above. There are whispers he is a good bet to crack top 100 prospect lists later this season, and he could get a September call-up for a cup of coffee this year with a big season and be part of a ML rotation sometime next year. The Padres have a good system but at the top they are mostly years away. I agree with you they probably wouldn’t want to part with Laureano but if they got enough back and perhaps a toolsy player as a sweetener that is farther away, that is a haul for a SP that STEAMER and FanGraphs project to regress to the mean to a ~4.00 ERA this season who can also opt out after 2026, and a 31 year old hitter, soon to be 32, coming off a career year that he hasn’t had any year he has come close to approaching since 2019 who is ticketed for free agency after 2026.

          The Padres would be wise to take a deal similar to that one.

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        • Ma4170

          14 hours ago

          Agree the fit isnt there. Laureano value high now but hes at best a number 3 OF on a good team. Pivetta a career year but basically a 3/4 sp type until now. Mason miller is the prize, and padres would want too much. Mets have a lot of quality prospects, but like you said SD is win now so wouldnt make sense for them.
          Vientos can absolutely be good again – a had sophomore year doesnt mean hes done. I’d rather the mets keep senga anyway as he can be an ace when healthy, and that can happen if the fluke leg injuries stop happening.

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        • llokokokok

          13 hours ago

          Nah

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        • llokokokok

          13 hours ago

          I think if you are trading Vientos you are trading him at his lowest value. Down season and more evidence of bad defense. Mets are better off just playing him and hoping he has another good year. It’s not looking good he has 1 good year out of 4. Similar with Senga, he has been too injured in the MLB for anyone to give you a good return and you are better off hoping he has a healthy season with you. Pivetta came from one of the worst batter’s parks to a pitcher’s park. Along, with our pitching coach Ruben Niebla he was able to have a great year. I think he will be fine with your park (You don’t have the pitching whisperer Niebla though…). I don’t even know why you would want Laureano to be fair. We got him when he was hot. Now that 1 hot season is over I would be hesitant to even go after him.

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        • llokokokok

          13 hours ago

          Also, forgot to mention Mason Miller. We unloaded the farm for him essentially. Whoever wrote articles that you can get him they are probably lying. It would take you unloading your farm to get him. The noise is coming from GMs asking what it would take to get him and then questionable journalists writing stories like that inquiry by the outside equals Preller is shopping him. He isn’t and you have no chance.

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        • Jdawginsc

          12 hours ago

          Yeah, I agree the Pads would have to be absolutely overwhelmed to part with Miller.

          Pivetta is an expensive rental (opt out plus), and Laureano is, I agree, over-valued at the moment.

          I think Stearns waiting out the market is actually doing the right thing this year.

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    • enc1n0

      17 hours ago

      i recall reading something like Tong, Sproat, Senga, Vienos to start with.

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  14. Slider_withcheese

    17 hours ago

    They haven’t won a World Series in 40 years.

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  15. Say Hey Now Kid

    17 hours ago

    I’m hoping this is because Cohen is planning to go Skubal or bust next year like he did with Soto

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  16. 10centBeerNight

    17 hours ago

    Mets for clicks strikes again

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  17. DDD09

    17 hours ago

    Of course they prefer the trade market. Regardless, Stearns destroyed this team. He’s not making any more moves, whether via trade or free agency. Plus, Cohen has his casino. He’s happy.

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  18. 86mets

    17 hours ago

    Stearns is reinvigorating LOLMets with a flourish. Can we trade HIM back to Milwaukee?? For a bag of peanuts would be sufficient and Cohen eating the remainder of his contract.

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  19. SammythebullPavano

    17 hours ago

    I have zero faith the mets will get this right.

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  20. Harry LIme

    17 hours ago

    At one point in 2015, the Mets had Matt Harvey,26, Jacob deGrom, 27, Noah Syndergaard 23, Steve Matz 24 and Zach Wheeler 25 in the rotation. Wheeler was hurt. Today, they have McLean, Tong, Sproat and Santucci coming up. Duda and Familia blew the 2015 World Series. Now that Plumpy is gone and the defense is better, The Mets have as much a chance as anyone.

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  21. Redwolves3

    17 hours ago

    That says a lot if Mets prefer going trade route for SP instead of FA

    1) says one of the reasons for the slow FA SP market probably due to agents/pitchers ridiculous demands for $$$ & years – especially if they’re represented by Boras

    2) teams considering more affordable options

    3) teams are tired of Boras’ MO & holding up FA market

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  22. Jdawginsc

    17 hours ago

    Remember that every $10m in salary is $21 m in payroll folks. They are at 95-110% tax penalty are.

    A ST deal with Tucker for say $40m AAV costs Cohen $84m. Two signings at say $70 AAV costs Cohen $147m.

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  23. Jdt8312

    16 hours ago

    The Mets are rebuilding. They aren’t going to be trading for a starter. They aren’t signing any big free agents.They infused the rotation with three young arms in August of last year. At least 2 of those arms are going to be in the rotation this coming year. That puts the Mets rotation at 6 or more. Mclean, Senga, Sproat, Manaea, Holmes, Peterson, Tong. Where is the need for a starter? David Stearns said at the Winter meetings that he wasn’t signing any players who would block our youth. I do not understand why it’s so hard to understand that a franchise that lost$300+ mil last season is trying to build, and move toward fiscal responsibility?

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    • ShaqFoo

      16 hours ago

      How are they rebuilding?!

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      • Jdt8312

        9 hours ago

        3 minor leaguers injected into the rotation in August. No starting pitching additions. David Stearns telling us that he is not signing players that will block our player coming up in a presser at the winter meetings. They let walk, or traded most of the 30 somethings we had in the field, and got back one 30 something with less time than the contract he was traded for. Signed one 30 something to a 2 year contract to allegedly play 1B. That is the basis for my statement.

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        • ShaqFoo

          9 hours ago

          The term rebuilding implies that they are tearing things down and won’t necessarily try to win until they build back up. That’s certainly not what they’re doing.. certainly not after their big commitment to Soto. Stearns is just reshaping things to his style by moving out some of the players he inherited.

          And the Mets deep system is going to start paying off this szn. Beyond that, they’re not finished. I expect them to make additions in the OF, rotation and pen. I think we’ll see a trade and another FA. But name chasing is not his regular style, tho they’re probably in on Skubal if he hits FA next yr.

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    • CarverAndrews

      15 hours ago

      I am not conversant with the Mets revenue issues, but was kinda’ shocked to see how low their gross revenues are in comparison to the Yankees and Dodgers.

      Any Mets fan know the reasoning? Citifield is relatively new; is their media deal just awful or what?

      As much as Cohen spends, it appears that the cure for the team is a hard focus on increasing revenues, as they are in a top two market in the game. While I don’t expect them to beat the Yankees in that regard, I also don’t expect them to be so far below them without a darn good explanation.

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  24. phillyballers

    16 hours ago

    Fine by me… go ahead and forego Ranger and Framber.

    Now if that means they get Skubal or Peralta… ehhhh

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  25. joew

    16 hours ago

    are they looking for proven top of the rotation. Proven middle to back end? or good young prospects who have a few innings at mlb level?

    Pirates still have some depth can could probably swing a trade for a reasonably controlled 3b option or a short term SS.

    anyone not named Skenes or Chandler probably could be available if the return is fair..

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  26. ShaqFoo

    16 hours ago

    Sign Ranger.

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  27. mz90gu

    16 hours ago

    I keep wondering about Robbie ray he’s only got one year left and Mets don’t want term.

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  28. ny papi

    15 hours ago

    Can’t they just sign Suarez and call it a day?

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  29. padam

    15 hours ago

    Mets aren’t moving MacLean. His ceiling as their next ace with control for years is too good to move out – even if it’s for a year of Skubal.

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  30. pepenas34

    14 hours ago

    Just sign Suarez(6) and Valdez(5), use the wallet ( years at 30MM /year )

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  31. RagingBull

    14 hours ago

    I’m pleased that the New York Brewers are not going the free agency route and spending super-tanker loads of cash for veteran, finicky, IL, free-agent pitchers. The Dodgers have gone this route and look where it has gotten them

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  32. Jdawginsc

    13 hours ago

    Why would the Mets gut pitching when Peterson, Raley and Minter is gone after this year, Senga, Holmes and Manea, Weaver, the year after.

    Smart clubs don’t load up with FA pitchers. They develop pitching and up the middle players and then buy corners.

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  33. DavRozNYY

    12 hours ago

    McLean and Mr.Met are the only guys in Flushing worth keeping.

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    • RagingBull

      8 hours ago

      DavRozNYY,

      What about Mrs. Met?

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