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Poll: Would You Rather Have Framber Valdez Or Ranger Suarez?

By Nick Deeds | January 9, 2026 at 3:53pm CDT

The 2025-26 offseason hasn’t been exceptionally slow overall to this point, with 30 of MLBTR’s Top 50 free agents already signed in addition to plenty of significant trades. With that said, however, things have been unusually quiet at the top of the class. Outside of an early strike by the Blue Jays to land Dylan Cease back in November, the only free agents in MLBTR’s Top 10 who have signed are Kyle Schwarber, who was always expected to re-up with the Phillies in relatively short order, and the NPB duo of Munetaka Murakami and Tatsuya Imai, both of whom had firm deadlines to sign a contract due to the rules of the posting process. The rest of the offseason’s top free agents are still out there, and while plenty of attention has been paid to the four best hitters available—Kyle Tucker, Bo Bichette, Alex Bregman, and Cody Bellinger—less fanfare has been made about the two best pitchers available.

With Cease and Imai off the market, the only two pitchers from MLBTR’s top 10 still available are lefties Framber Valdez and Ranger Suarez. Both are on the shortlist of the most talented lefty starters in the game at the moment, with solid track records of success in both the regular season and postseason. Both players took some time to get their careers into full swing; each became a full-time starter at age-26, though Valdez reached that point during the shortened 2020 season so he didn’t receive a full slate of starts until the following year. Suarez also received a half-season of starts before getting a full workload, as he joined the Phillies’ rotation on a permanent basis in August of 2021 with 12 starts down the stretch and never looked back. Since joining their respective rotations full time, each has proven to be a reliable front-end arm.

In terms of overall track record, Valdez has the edge. Valdez has an extra year as a starter under his belt, but even by that metric, volume is a clear separator. His 153 games started since joining the Astros’ rotation aren’t too far ahead of the 116 starts Suarez has made when factoring that extra year, but Valdez’s 973 innings of work utterly dwarf Suarez’s 654 frames. Things are much closer in terms of results on the field, but Valdez still has the edge with a 3.23 ERA and 3.38 FIP to Suarez’s 3.39 ERA and 3.45 FIP. Suarez’s 22.2% strikeout rate, 7.4% walk rate, and 51.3% ground ball rate are all solid. But Valdez’s has the edge in terms of punchouts and grounders, with only slightly more free passes: 23.8% strikeout rate, 8.0% walk rate, and 61.5% ground ball rate.

That combination of volume and results may paint the picture that Valdez is clearly the superior arm, but there’s more factors to consider. Suarez and Valdez enjoyed virtually identical platform seasons, with a 3.59 ERA and 3.57 FIP for Suarez to Valdez’s 3.66 ERA and 3.37 FIP. The pair’s strikeout rate was also mostly the same, (23.3% for Valdez and 23.2% for Suarez), but Suarez took a big step forward in terms of walk rate and issued free passes at just a 5.8% clip to Valdez’s 8.5%.

That ability to cut down walks is certainly attractive, and it’s fair to argue that Suarez is trending upward while Valdez could be starting to show some signs of decline. That’s especially relevant given the age gap between the two; Suarez is two years younger than Valdez, entering free agency at age-30 as opposed to age-32. MLBTR projected both pitchers for five-year deals back in November. Using those predictions, Suarez would be paid through age-34 while Valdez would be on the books through age-36 on an identical contract. Suarez would also be cheaper, at least according to MLBTR, with a $115MM prediction for Suarez compared to a $150MM prediction for Valdez.

In addition, Suarez’s postseason resume is nearly spotless, with a career 1.48 ERA in the playoffs. By contrast, Valdez has a 4.34 postseason ERA. That comes in double the innings (85 frames against Suarez’s 42 2/3 innings of work), but the elder lefty’s work in recent years has been particularly lackluster; he’s posted an 8.27 ERA in his last four playoff starts. A strong postseason resume isn’t typically a major factor in the sort of nine-figure deals Valdez and Suarez are seeking, but it could easily serve as a tiebreaker for some clubs between two pitchers this similar. Another soft factor that could play a role in differentiating the two is an incident last season where Astros catcher Cesar Salazar was struck by a pitch from Valdez in a cross-up situation. Speculation arose at the time that the pitch was intentional on Valdez’s part, though both players declared it an accident afterwards.

How do MLBTR readers view the two lefties, and which would you rather have over the next five years? Are Valdez’s superior volume and results enough to overcome Suarez’s advantages in age and postseason performance? Have your say in the poll below:

Which pitcher would you rather have over the next five seasons?

  • Ranger Suarez 58% (5,835)
  • Framber Valdez 42% (4,298)

Total votes: 10,133

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  1. Professional Mozeliak Hater

    2 months ago

    Give me Ranger

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    • braveshomer

      2 months ago

      I voted Ranger just so I don’t have to see him carve up the Braves anymore….plus he’s really good lol

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    • 99Captain Judge99

      2 months ago

      The Rangers should sign Ranger Suarez. It’s definitely more fitting.

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  2. jwinker

    2 months ago

    Remind me which one throws at his teammates again?

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    • carlos15

      2 months ago

      Even though the teammate said that’s not what happened?

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      • ChrisP 2

        2 months ago

        Ya, because the teammate is an actual good teammate and didn’t wanna throw Framber under the bus. If you’ve watched it, pretty damn obvious what happened lol. Valdez will get way less than his numbers show he’s worth. Because from the optics of that who would want him unless on a bargain, which someone will get.
        Give me Suarez

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      • desertbull

        2 months ago

        But it is what happened. We all saw it plain as day.

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      • Web's #2

        2 months ago

        shhhh Carlos. None of this fact stuff. They want to hate and make incendiary comments even when the players themselves say it never happened.

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        • ChrisP 2

          2 months ago

          Of course the player says it didn’t happen, what would he have to gain by saying it did? As a rookie I’m pretty sure the Astros wanted him to downplay it, so he did. I have eyes, Valdez’s reaction tells that he meant to do it and had no remorse for it. Only gonna cost him about 100 million. Your team can have him

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        • Another Dodgers Fan

          1 month ago

          Every former MLB player I have seen talk about it said it was intentional.

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        • myaccount2

          1 month ago

          @Web- Don’t be obtuse. If Salazar, a journeyman catcher, says it happened the way it actually happened, he would be admonished for throwing his teammate under the bus, then likely never get another contract in MLB.

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      • knuckleheads

        1 month ago

        A backup minor league catcher hanging in the majors by a thread is not going to challenge Framber Valdez intentions. Will never happen. We all know he crossed him up to drill him and perhaps that is hurting his FA status…

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  3. kalki

    2 months ago

    Impossible to answer without knowing the contract terms.

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    • JuanUribeJazzHands

      2 months ago

      kalki

      No it’s not

      Which one do you think is going to be better over the next 5 years?

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        1 month ago

        That’s assuming they sign 5 year deals. I think Valdez gets a max of 3 years. Both guys are intriguing. Valdez has more upside but might have character issues. He’s more of a horse which is what the Yanks need right now
        Suarez is a craftier pitcher who doesn’t rely on power but if he gets in trouble doesn’t have the big swing and miss stuff you’d like an ace to have.

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      • kalki

        1 month ago

        That’s not even what the question asks, JuanUribe. ROFLMFAOO!!!!!

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          1 month ago

          What does the question ask, then?

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        • kalki

          1 month ago

          If you can read, you should be able to understand the difference without needing it explained,

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        • JuanUribeJazzHands

          1 month ago

          Muted

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        • kalki

          1 month ago

          Cool, I hate wasting time on people with poor reading comprehension.

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    • Longtimecoming

      1 month ago

      Unless you read all of the assumption parameter and then the facts and combine them as a GM would have to do and say, which of these 2 do you want on those factors!

      5 / 115 for Suarez
      5/ 150 for Valdez

      It’s all in the post for you before asking you to play the game.

      Of course, actual offers and terms will come out later but the question is based on the info provided.

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  4. gold masters

    2 months ago

    Framber

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  5. BigLeagueChew27

    2 months ago

    Framber’s a dbag.

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  6. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    2 months ago

    9 out of 10 catchers pick Ranger

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    • Another Dodgers Fan

      1 month ago

      The 10th catcher will just threaten him to try it.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 month ago

      Also Ranger has a post-season era of 1.48 over 43 innings, Framber has a post-season era of 4.34 over 85 innings.

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      • Another Dodgers Fan

        1 month ago

        Based on those numbers I would have to choose door number one.

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  7. mlb fan

    2 months ago

    I saw Framber a couple times in the second half and wasn’t impressed. I believe Ranger Suarez will be the more successful and productive pitcher going forward.

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    • sultan of swat

      2 months ago

      He had a bad second half for some reason. Outside of that he’s really steady and never hurt.

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  8. MeowMeow

    2 months ago

    I don’t care about the thing with Framber and the catcher (too many people convinced they know what happened there, and we will never know for sure), but I do care that he’s more than a year and a half older than Suarez.

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    • MeowMeow

      2 months ago

      Don’t worry I have my share of hyperbolic and snarky comments too xD

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    • KamKid

      1 month ago

      The other side of the age coin though is that Framber has been much more durable.

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      • GASoxFan

        1 month ago

        Kam – that could just mean he’s that much closer to breaking down with more wear and tear on the ol elbow

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        • KamKid

          1 month ago

          Could be. Especially at his age. But I think there might be something to some of the durable guys that is real. Suarez hasn’t been totally sidelined, but has missed time in all of his seasons. I don’t know if that would worry me all that much. As a fan, it’s all speculation as we aren’t privy to the physicals. The one thing that doesn’t really worry me from a performance perspective but does make me wonder about health is the velo drop.

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  9. Oscar Gambling Problem

    2 months ago

    Neither?

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    • cwsOverhaul

      1 month ago

      @Oscar: Neither is a good answer if the question was who to guarantee 9 figures. Suarez isn’t durable enough. Valdez “was” excellent/Astros got his best years. 3yrs/75mil with opt out after year 2 would be good offer for both….with club fine if rejected.

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  10. CarverAndrews

    2 months ago

    Watched that replay a half dozen times, and there is no doubt in my mind that Framber deliberately crossed him up. As a retired catcher, that is incredibly offensive. Framber is not the kind of dude that I want on my team, and Ranger is just a terrific kid.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 month ago

      Carver:

      Re: red caps

      Boston Red Sox, Cincinnati Reds, St. Louis Cardinals, and Washington Nationals as primary red teams, alongside the Texas Rangers, Cleveland Guardians (home cap); the latter two introduced new red caps for 2025.

      We are talking baseball here, right?

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  11. Baltimore_44

    2 months ago

    I think Valdez is the better pitcher. He doesn’t miss starts and he’s good for 180+ innings. But the answer to this question is neither. I don’t want either one for 5 seasons.

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  12. Machine Gun Kelly Gruber

    2 months ago

    Framber might not be a nice guy but he’s way more durable than Ranger, who can’t even throw 150 innings consistently. You pay a guy to make his starts and give you innings. Who cares about his personality?

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    • Steve F

      2 months ago

      His future teammates, who wonder if he’s going to try to injure them too

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    • Drew Waters Bat

      1 month ago

      Ramos, are these the same teammates who said they DIDN’T bang on trash cans?

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    • CarverAndrews

      1 month ago

      If you ever spent any significant time in the dugout, then you would understand that personalities can matter. I am not stating that Framber is a bad dude or a clubhouse cancer as I don’t know what he is like the rest of the time (beyond the ahole incident). But the clubhouse mix does matter for teams at times. Some teams overcome the occasional jerk, and others end up with a festering mess.

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  13. bravesfan

    2 months ago

    Prob Ranger. He’s younger and has a higher career war at this age. I think his stuff will age well. Plus framber is plump and idk.. those guys don’t age well and if there is even a lick of negatively behind is character after purposely crossing up his catcher, I’d take a lesser talent

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  14. Pickles McGee

    2 months ago

    I always thought of them as like basically an amalgam, hard to separate or distinguish down to their near identical ERA’s, so I hereby dub them Framger. Which one? Flip a coin

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  15. Shadowpartner

    2 months ago

    I’m going to pick based on first names. I have to pick Ranger.

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  16. Astros71

    2 months ago

    Despite being an Astros fan, Framber is declining and is also becoming more streaky. Not sure I would call him an ace all the time, when good, he is, when bad, he SUCKS. And those are long stretches too (for the most part).

    So Ranger

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  17. Leo Schnauzer

    2 months ago

    The answer is Zac Gallen on a shorter, cheaper term ($70mx4)

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    • kalki

      1 month ago

      You do realize he sucked donkeys last year. Take a look at his Savant page and you may change your mind.

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        Gallen is a high risk, high reward type guy.

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        • kalki

          1 month ago

          I see the high risk. I don’t see high reward. Even if he bucks the trend, the max reward is middling, IMO. A back-of-the-rotation guy who hopefully is healthy enough for 25 starts. I wouldn’t want him getting more starts than that if I am looking to contend

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          Zac Gallen is a very durable innings eater. Also, he was an ace and he can recapture his form. He might not (high risk), but if he does, he’s good (high reward).

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        • kalki

          1 month ago

          “Good” “durable innings eater” is not “high reward” in anyone’s book. That’s “meh reward.”

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  18. theporcupine

    2 months ago

    Framber stays healthier.

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    • User 1070517657

      2 months ago

      True!

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  19. Slider_withcheese

    2 months ago

    The Dodgers would sign them both just for fun

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  20. User 1070517657

    2 months ago

    bWAR over the past five years is basically a push 17.3 vs 17.7, Ranger is younger but more often injured. Tough call! Maybe better teammate or disposition is the deciding factor tbh

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  21. tuck 2

    2 months ago

    As an Oriole, I’ll take Ranger Suarez. I like that he’s thrown fewer innings, I think he’s more likely to stay healthy, and I like that he was able to pitch successfully in the band box in Philly. Plus, he probably comes at a slight discount and I don’t think there is enough difference to justify paying more

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    • IronWarPigs

      2 months ago

      He hasn’t ever had a healthy season though

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      • tuck 2

        1 month ago

        I hear you but he’s averaged 28 starts over the last 4 years. I’ll take 25 solid starts a year these days. It’s a really short list of guys that give you more than that. The Os have enough pitching depth to make that work.

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        • User 1070517657

          1 month ago

          He’s averaged 26 starts over the past four seasons 29, 22, 27, 26, not bad

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    • Astros71

      2 months ago

      Don’t estimate Framber’s durability. He’s about as durable as you’ll ever get.

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      • User 1070517657

        1 month ago

        He’s averaged 30.33 starts over the past four seasons 31, 31, 28, 31. 11th best in the league, Ranger’s 104 starts ranks 34th best…

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 month ago

      Suarez
      9/27/25 Groin
      3/23/25 Back
      7/24/24 Back
      6/1/24 Undisclosed
      8/18/23 Hamstring
      3/30/23 Elbow
      6/30/22 Back

      Chronic back injuries and you think he is more likely to stay healthy ?

      Valdez
      4/8/24 Elbow
      7/1/23 Ankle
      9/16/21 Hand
      3/29/21 Finger

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      • Another Dodgers Fan

        1 month ago

        Neither can help the Dodgers this year, so I choose none of the above.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          Of course, they are as good as your #4 starter. Why spend almost 200 million on a #4 starter. Dodgers need more lineup youth to improve.

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        • Another Dodgers Fan

          1 month ago

          We’ll see how it goes. No idea what they are trying to set up at this point. Until I see an actual move is better not to speculate. They have a tendency to surprise me.

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  22. chuckyboy1217

    2 months ago

    Ranger- a Red Sox fan

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  23. 2NA

    2 months ago

    Would you rather your pitcher hate your catcher or be gassed in September? Haha

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  24. southi

    2 months ago

    While I may question his character, Valdez has proven over his career to be a better and more durable pitcher than Suarez. Suarez has NEVER even made 30 starts or pitched 160 innings in a single season!

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    • User 1070517657

      1 month ago

      Valdez ranks 2nd in innings pitched over the past four years and Suarez ranks 31st, that’s decent

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      • southi

        1 month ago

        Yes, 31st is DECENT, but if all other things are equal why would you choose 31st instead of 2nd?

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        • User 1070517657

          1 month ago

          Did I choose 31st instead of 2nd? I don’t even recall agreeing that all other things were equal.

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  25. IronWarPigs

    2 months ago

    As a phils fan I love ranger but don’t want him back. He’s never pitched more than 159 innings and that’s just not worth the money. I do believe he’s a better pitcher and being 3 years younger is certainly more valuable.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 month ago

      He is definitely not the “better pitcher”.

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  26. Pete zahut

    2 months ago

    I want the pitcher that is on the mound as much as possible.

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  27. DannyQ3913

    2 months ago

    Ranger misses 10 starts a year

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    • kalki

      1 month ago

      False claim. Since become a full-time SP four years ago, he has averaged 26 starts per year.

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  28. leftykoufax

    2 months ago

    I like both. But Ill go with Ranger.

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  29. letitbelowenstein

    2 months ago

    Ranger. Less drama.

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  30. Web's #2

    2 months ago

    Framber for durability. The best ability is availability and that is even more important for starting pitchers.

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    • JuanUribeJazzHands

      2 months ago

      Web

      “The best ability is availability and that is even more important for starting pitchers”

      How many starting pitchers have the two-time defending champion Dodgers used the last two seasons?

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      • outinleftfield

        1 month ago

        Web, going to step in on this one. There is only one team that has the money to game the system like that and the Dodgers are that team.

        So unless the Dodgers are making the choice between these two, your question is academic.

        Pretty sure Web is a Padres fan, so to any other team that doesn’t have unlimited resources going with the more durable player makes more sense.

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        • kalki

          1 month ago

          The Yankers can game the system as well.

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    • ohyeadam

      2 months ago

      I’m available…

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  31. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    2 months ago

    I vote neither.

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  32. gorav114

    2 months ago

    I love Frambers durability, ability to pitch in small park and high GB rate but id take either. Those contract estimates arent close.

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  33. Ranger 7

    2 months ago

    I’d rather make it with a lady.

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    • CravenMoorehead

      1 month ago

      Jon Heyman said the same thing earlier on MLB Network.

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  34. Steven hempel

    2 months ago

    Eugenio

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  35. charles73

    1 month ago

    I dont love either choice. Ranger is great in the postseason, but he has some known injury risk. Back problems don’t age well. But Framber had a couple of rough months to end 2025, when he usually finishes strong. I wonder if there is an injury lurking for him? I’d rather not find out.

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  36. Shapatkins

    1 month ago

    Surprised the article didnt mention 4 seam velo for Ranger. The only thing giving me pause on him. Absolute nails in October tho

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  37. outinleftfield

    1 month ago

    Neither will end up on the Angels because they want more than 3 years, but if I was signing the checks I would take the much more durable player, Valdez.

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  38. coldgoldenfalstaff

    1 month ago

    Astros fans know, some team is going to question the contract when “Bad Framber” shows up. When he’s on, he’s solid, but man…

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  39. Bill Kane

    1 month ago

    When healthy I want Ranger but every year he has been unable to post on a consistent basis or was under pitch counts. Valdez is consistent and a ws winner. He’s s very good pitcher but anasshole teammate.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 month ago

      Suarez has had multiple IL stints due to chronic back problems. He is a big risk, and actually not as good as Valdez, but then Valdez is obnoxious and a head case.

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  40. Old York

    1 month ago

    Why can’t I have both?

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  41. KamKid

    1 month ago

    I picked Ranger in the poll but it’s close. I think they are both really good pitchers and Im surprised there hasn’t been a lot of buzz about competitive markets for them. I get why the position players are maybe harder to shoehorn onto some teams so don’t have as wide a market and are lingering, but any mid market and up team should be at least exploring these guys.

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  42. King Floch

    1 month ago

    I don’t want either for the next 5 years.

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  43. AL B DAMNED

    1 month ago

    Ranger because he hasn’t thrown pitches to fool his Catchers into getting hit with the ball!

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  44. ainteasybeingaphilsphan

    1 month ago

    Ranger. Stop it. Dude is cool as they come. Never gets rattled. Wish we could keep him.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 month ago

      They are two completely different pitchers Yep I’m choosing Ranger because he is unflappable. Same demeanor winning or losing. Then you have temperamental and emotional Framber, who unravels and turns into a big baby when things don’t go his way. (And blames an outfielder for being out of position)

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  45. casualfan

    1 month ago

    At 5/115, Suarez is the better choice. Those 2 years of age difference are huge.

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  46. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    1 month ago

    Valdez is a head case and Suarez has chronic back problems. I would not sign either of them.

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  47. ayeah

    1 month ago

    I would easily take Ranger over Valdez. Valdez cheats. Aka Orange face in the 2022 World Series.

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  48. User 1070517657

    1 month ago

    Suarez over the last four seasons ranks 34th in starts and 31st in IP. That’s really good for someone with chronic back problems but I suppose it could catch up with him like Eflin’s 2025 season.

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  49. wileycoyote56

    1 month ago

    Framber will have the stigma of crossing up his catcher due to anger, no matter what everyone thinks, due to the issue last season. True or not teams will have that in the back of their minds when deciding who to sign. Nobody wants to bring someone in that could cause turmoil in the clubhouse, and it might be unfair, but that’s a fact of life. Both are good pitchers and would help any team that signs them.

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  50. Spaced-Cowboy

    1 month ago

    Valdez is the better pitcher, but do I really want a pitcher with that much (be)wear and tear?
    My heart voted Framber and my brain says Ranger.

    Reply
  51. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    1 month ago

    The one who won’t throw at my catcher when he gets mad.

    Reply

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