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Boras Denies Calling Red Sox
Tony Masarotti of the Boston Herald reports that Scott Boras denies having ever called the Red Sox in a last ditch effort to keep Manny Ramirez in Boston, as reported yesterday. Ramirez seems happy to be gone and it didn't make sense that he would've made an attempt to stay in Boston after such a messy divorce.
MLBTR readers seem to be either exhausted by this story, or think the Red Sox made the right move. Peter Gammons' blog entry from last week is a must read.
Moving on, in another article, Masarotti details just how much money the Red Sox will have to play with this offseason:
"Look at it this way: Based on the formula used to calculate luxury tax, the Red Sox finished 2007 with a payroll just shy of $165 million. By Opening Day of this year, that number was down to about $150 million. By November, that number will be closer to $110 million, which means the Red Sox could have between $40 million and $55 million to spend, if not more."
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That money is a key part of the deal. The Red Sox can pay someone 12.5 mil next year plus Bay's production all for what it might have cost them just for manny.
Posted by: walkoffblast | August 03, 2008 at 10:49 AM
At this point sox fans should jus be happy that bay has a few rbi's...a triple, a nice home run, a sweet defensive slide and grab and that the only thing changing for manny is jersey numbers.
Boras is the the lil devil on one side of manny's shoulder where as the the lil angel is currently in dispose.
Posted by: elevenahead | August 03, 2008 at 10:50 AM
I could see the Red Sox giving Bay a 5-6 contract extension offseason at 90 million or so.
The fans already love him, and he'd lock down the position with good production for a while.
Does 5/80 or 6/95 get it done? I'm not giving him quite market value because he's signing an extension. Plus there's precendent in Boston these days for players taking discounts.
Posted by: notsellingjeans | August 03, 2008 at 11:15 AM
The bummer is that Bay is also a Boras client. They don't typically sign extensions. Boras likes his clients to capitalize in free agency. I'm sure if Bay plays well for the remainder of the season, the Sox will at least make an attempt.
Posted by: Mr_Punch | August 03, 2008 at 12:19 PM
The Yankees (Giambi, Mussina, Pettitte, Pavano, Abreu) and the Mets (Delgado, Pedro, Alou, El Duque, Perez) also have a ton of money opening up to play with this offseason. Will be an interesting winter from your standard big market teams.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | August 03, 2008 at 12:46 PM
But what exactly will th Red Sox spend it on?
The position players are set. This leaves the pen, which Theo has publicly said he hates shelling out big money, multi-year contracts for because relievers are rarely a lock year to year. They won't persue K-Rod for obvious reasons. Fuentes wants a closer job, so he's likely out. Ohman is a FA, so a couple mil to him? But would likely be outbid.
Then there's the possibility of a starter. Lester, Beckett, and Matsuzaka are obviously locks. Wakefield is a 75% likely. Leaving the fifth man job to Masterson (possibly bullpen bound) and Buchholz (possibly AAA bound or trade chip for young catcher). So the queston being, do we really see Boston seriously competing for Sabathia?
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 03, 2008 at 01:59 PM
i see the sox going after ben sheets. maybe a 4 year/60 million? think thats about what he'd go for.
i personally love bucholz but if they can get a a very solid catching prospect im ok with trading him
Posted by: xwoojinx | August 03, 2008 at 02:47 PM
"The bummer is that Bay is also a Boras client. They don't typically sign extensions. Boras likes his clients to capitalize in free agency. I'm sure if Bay plays well for the remainder of the season, the Sox will at least make an attempt."
Just to clarify, Bay is not a Boras client...he is a Joe Urban client.
http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/8/1/584293/jason-bay-was-he-worth-it
Posted by: bigpupp | August 03, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Is it possible if they can't sign Bay that they could then shoot for Matt Holliday? Matt's a great hitter whose in his prime and with that Green Monster in Fenway he could be the heir apparent to Man-Ram. What do you guys think?
Posted by: E.F. Ortega | August 03, 2008 at 09:13 PM
I agree with going after Ben Sheets and trying to trade for a future catcher.
John Henry and the Front Office won't pocket the cash.
Look for them to make a splash somewhere to make up for losing Manny. This is especially true if the offense ends up being a liability.
Posted by: SierraM | August 03, 2008 at 10:46 PM
"Is it possible if they can't sign Bay that they could then shoot for Matt Holliday?"
I'm betting tht Holliday gets traded in the off season to a team with the capability and will to sign him long term. Boston makes much less sense with Bay. It would take a very weird trade to land Holliday in Boston for the 2009 season.
I'm betting Holliday never reaches FA... I know he's a Boras client, but the perception that he's Babe Ruth incarnate may make some team trade for him and pay him more than if he was on the open market. I'm betting Boston then plays it close to the vest. If Reddick, Anderson, or even Kalish looks to be major league ready to start the 2010 season then bye bye Bay, hello draft picks. If not, payday for Bay.
As for Sheets... he seems to be more likely than Sabathia. But if Burnett becomes a FA, then Burnett. Theo tried to acquire him 3 years ago. History tends to repeat in baseball.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 03, 2008 at 11:34 PM
If I was the Red Sox I would do a couple of things this off season.
Re-sign Varitek
Trade for one of the Rangers young catchers like Salty or Max Ramirez.
Get Manny back...JK...I am really not.
Trade Coco Crisp for some kind of med level prospect with power.
Trade Julio Lugo.
Extend Bay 3-5 years.
Posted by: manny24 | August 04, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Beckett has one year left after this one, so don't be surprised if a nice chunk of that money goes into an extension for him.
I doubt they want to see Beckett file for free agency... you want to keep the best postseason pitcher in baseball happy.
Posted by: Peagle8 | August 04, 2008 at 11:17 AM
"Beckett has one year left after this one, so don't be surprised if a nice chunk of that money goes into an extension for him."
Club option for 2010 actually
Posted by: bigpupp | August 04, 2008 at 01:52 PM