Rosenthal On Yankees, Hart, Haren, Werth

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports has a new installment of Full Count up.  Let's dive in and see what he has for us..

  • The Yankees are talking to the Marlins and the two teams could match up in a few different ways.  Cody Ross, a right-handed hitting outfielder, would be a perfect fit for the Pinstripes.  Trouble is, Ross is a regular for Florida and the Yanks may not want to pay that price for a player they'd only use part-time.  Leo Nunez would also make sense for the Yankees in a set-up role but they'll want a lot for him as well.  The closer is under team control for two seasons after this one.
  • The Braves like Ross as well but their opinions on Corey Hart are mixed.  Some Atlanta officials are rather fond of Hart, but others see him as a slightly better version of Jeff Francoeur.  If Matt Diaz hits well and Nate McLouth comes back strong, they may not even need the Brewers outfielder.  If their guy ultimately is Hart though, it'll be at their price.
  • Two of the top starters on the trading block hold no-trade clauses, though they may not be much of a factor.  Ted Lilly can reject trades to ten teams, though the  only contenders on his list are the Twins and Phillies, who may not even be interested in him.  Arizona's Dan Haren can reject deals to twelve clubs, including the Reds.  However, a source says that his list is not a factor as he has not been pitching well.
  • The Phillies, at the moment, are not playing well enough to make a run at Roy Oswalt.  However, they don't expect to fall far enough out of contention to sell.  Jayson Werth, Rosenthal says, could be moved in order to improve the team in the short-term and long-term.  A Werth-for-Javier Vazquez swap could make sense if the Yankees could acquire another starting pitcher.  Cliff Lee, in theory, would have been that guy. 


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18 Comments on "Rosenthal On Yankees, Hart, Haren, Werth"


Abraham Zapruder
5 years 1 month ago

Granderson and Burnett are awful

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

Thanks Captain Obvious.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Werth for Vazquez is interesting. Werth gets great PR because of his home park, and Yankee fans feel about Vazquez the way Sideshow Bob feels about rakes, even though he’s been pretty good since his start. The Phillies might be a better team having Vazquez and Domonic Brown than having Werth. They will probably both be Type A free agents. It’s an interesting idea. The Yankees could then build a Haren package around Montero, perhaps.

Sniderlover
5 years 1 month ago

It would have to be Vazquez + for Werth. And Isn’t Vazquez getting paid too much and Phillies probably wouldn’t offer him arbitration because he would likely accept it.

Werth would decline it and Yankees would get 2 picks. The deal makes sense for Yankees more so than it does for Philly… unless they feel Brown is really ready to take on a big role.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

There’s the thing. Brown is destroying Triple-A. He’s probably ready right now.

5 years 1 month ago

Regardless, it sounds like a dream scenario for the Yankees and somewhat silly for the Phillies. They could get much more for Werth than an overrated back-end starter. Then again, they proved that they don’t know how to shop a star on the trade market when they moved Lee for a bag full of mid-level prospects.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

There’s a reason I said “interesting,” and not “likely” or “practical.”

bjsguess
5 years 1 month ago

Agreed completely. This makes NO sense for the Phillies. It doesn’t help them this year and it certainly doesn’t help them in the years beyond.

A better move would be to find someone to take Ibanez (with the Phills eating a bunch of money) and bringing up Brown. That allows Brown to play today and frees up money for next year. The big question is how much would the Phillies need to eat of Ibanez’s contract.

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

moving werth would not be too smart by the phillies. you can’t make a run at the playoffs while creating a huge hole in the outfield like that.

aap212
5 years 1 month ago

Reports on Domonic Brown from Triple-A have all said that he looks pretty ready. Obviously it’s a small sample size, but batting .375 in Triple-A isn’t the mark of a man who will be a “huge hole in the outfield.”

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

now is not the time where you have a young player get called up, give him a starting position and tell him he’s replacing werth. he’s the guy were hoping to get us to the playoffs. i’d rather hold on to the team i have if i’m the phillies.

ferg1025
5 years 1 month ago

I don’t think Haren needs to worry about the Reds. Just about every pitcher in and out of the Reds rotation is pitching better than him right now. Arizona already said that they would not trade him unless they are blown away. Jocketty isn’t going to blow them away. Haren is not even in the same ballpark as Lee. I do think the Reda would inquire on Oswalt. But I don’t think the Astros want to trade within the division and they will refuse to eat enough of the contract no matter if the Reds give up prospects or not.

Wrek305
5 years 1 month ago

Corey Hart would only hurt the Braves….

5 years 1 month ago

When the only explanation for Hart’s all-star first half run is “he’s using new bats” you know you’re looking down the barrel of a second half letdown.

Expecting a big second half from Hart is like expecting a guy to have a bounce back season after he “discovers he needs lasik.” Eh, Billy Hall?

eponine
5 years 1 month ago

this is an absolutely ridiculous idea. werth is worth so much more than a back of the end of the rotation pitcher like vasquez. what would the phillies do with vasquez? as of jan 2010 accdg to yahoo, he was considering retirement and said he doesn’t plan to pitch until he’s 40. he’s already 33. how would this be fair to the phillies?

Wrek305
5 years 1 month ago

I could really give a rats a$$ about Corey Hart he’s an average player at best on a horrible team with one legit hitter who will be gone by next year.. I want Derek Lee and Aramis Ramirez to be out of Chicago forever… Ramirez is now hitting slightly above .200 and is somewhat on fire.. he’s not worth much.. his value went way down when they forced him back from a separated shoulder injury last season.. I would literally take anything to get him out of that uniform he is disgracing… Lee he’s just as bad nobody would even call Hendry for him… he’s owed only 6 mill pay him that tell him he’s not welcome at Wrigley anymore…Micah Hoffpauir is apparently tearing it up in Triple-A Iowa… bring him up he’s way cheaper then Lee and a lot better for that matter

bjsguess
5 years 1 month ago

Take anything? You mean you would literally give anything to be rid of them? Cause right now, nobody is sniffing Ramirez or Lee unless the Cubs pick up 80% of the cost.

wakefield4life
5 years 1 month ago

A Werth-Vazquez deal would be highway robbery for the Yanks. They get another useful bat for the lineup and all they give up is a subpar innings-eater. Rosenthal is yet again talking out of his ass. The Phils would have to get some kind of value for a lopsided deal like that. Unfortunately, with Jesus Montero off the block, the Yanks farm system is looking pretty sparse. They could get better value for Werth from just about any other team.