12:29pm: Uribe's contract with the Dodgers will be for three years and $21MM, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
11:38am: The Dodgers are closing in on a three-year deal with free agent infielder Juan Uribe, reports ESPN's Buster Olney. After a couple of solid seasons for the Giants, Uribe is about to snag his first multiyear free agent deal with their division rival.
Uribe, 31, hit .248/.310/.440 with 24 home runs in 575 plate appearances for the Giants this year, adding a pair of postseason home runs. He mainly played shortstop, but also logged time at third base and second base. Uribe would presumably serve as the Dodgers' second baseman with Rafael Furcal in the fold. The contract may seal Ryan Theriot's fate, with Thursday's non-tender deadline looming. Another effect may be a heightened sense of urgency for the Giants as they search for a shortstop. Uribe is a Type B free agent who was offered arbitration by the Giants, so they'll receive a supplemental draft pick for their loss.
I like Uribe’s fit with the Dodgers, but not for three years. He does bring 20HR pop and solid infield defense, though.
As a Giants fan, this is horrible news but I wouldn’t give him a 3 year deal though.
If he wants 3 yrs, I say Thanks Juan and good luck!
You’ll be happy in two years when the Dodgers are severely overpaying him
Talk about cashing in. A three-year deal? Jesus.
Is it like how Oliver Perez cashed in that three year deal with the Mets?
Oliver Perez’s three-year deal was way worse. But remind me, did I sign Oliver Perez, or did the Mets? Not sure you’re aware, but I just root for the team, I don’t run them.
No…because Juan Uribe is actually a legitimate baseball player.
I think this at least opens the possibility that the Giants get involved on Jeter and become the “leverage” team Derek is seeking. …
Except that nobody will match the Yankees’ initial offer.
LOL!
not interested in jeter…thank you very much…
I think that’s Juan too many years on the contract. Wouldn’t mind having a 2ndbaseman who can hit homeruns, though.
Keep Martin. Trade Loney for an outfielder, and sign Lee or Dunn and we’re looking decent.
I thought they were having trouble with money? Lee is a stretch if they are.
I think he means Derrek Lee.
Ah yeahh. Even Dunn could be a stretch if they are since they’ve signed Kuroda, Garland, Lilly and now looks like Uribe.
doesn’t all those signings give you the impression that money isn’t as tight as originally forecasted?
Dunn is a stretch. But it’s possible. The Dodgers have the money.
We don’t need Dunn. Loney is 100+ rbi’s and great defense. Can’t say the same for Dunn. I think with uribe in the infield to play second and third, we get a platoon going in left while we wait for Treyvon what-his-name to mature.
If this happens I wonder how long until we hear the Jeter to the Giants rumors.
I’ll say we’ll hear the first one at the winter meetings? You gonna call or raise me?
It will be shortly before Miguel Tejada signs.
You mean the Giants will receive a pick for their loss.
sux for Giants fans, what do they do now for shortstop? The only guy I can think of as an option has the answer at the end of his name. Gigantes should go after a shortstop. Hell, if the Yankees and Jeter can’t find a way to knock off the chick fighting go after him!!! You guys have gotta have some money to spend even with Barry Zito’s awful contract.
they’ve been looking at Bartlett, Hardy, Drew and Tejada.
They’ve been linked to Scutaro, also.
Drew w/o a doubt. Hardy isn’t anything phenomenal, Bartlett has never been in the NL and Tejada is getting on in years. Stephen Drew can do everything.
Ya, but Bartlett has been in the AL East. I’m pretty sure if you can succeed there then you are fine moving elsewhere. (The Vazquez effect only occurs in the other direction)
Drew probably won’t be moved, and if he is it would take a LOT from the giants to get him from division rival D-Bags.
“Bartlett has never been in the NL ”
I’m pretty sure that statement means absolutely nothing…
It doesn’t work both ways, only “player X has never been in the AL”
oh no my friend, as much as I have always hated to admit it, changing leagues does odd things to some guys. Burrell, Vasquez and Garrett Anderson come to mind. I didn’t say Jason Bartlett was a bad option anyway I just said Stephen Drew was a better option.
great examples.. 2 guys that struggled when they went to the AL and one guy who struggled when he was 37 going to the NL.
I like this for the Dodgers in the short term, because he’s a marked improvement at the plate over Theriot, for instance, and maybe even better defensively at 2nd. Don’t like it as a 3 year deal though because Uribe has to be due to regress. Even if he’s a bit worse than last year tho, still an upgrade for LA. He always scared me at the plate the last two years. Or maybe he’s secretly doing this as a favor for the Giants and will be horrible. 😉 Presumably Theriot’s not coming back now?
you got the like for use of f’rinstance.
Like a baby Jason Schmidt deal?
Hah, yeah that was definitely a deal that screwed over the Dodgers. Though that one was dumb right from the outset, or at least very risky, since Schmidt was coming off injury and it was not clear what sort of shape he’d be in. At least Colletti has learned a bit from that, has since shied away from any pitcher coming off injury or with health questions, and after Pierre has shied away from 2 year or 3 year deal max.
This is a good signing for L.A. even if it doesn’t pan out you could always trade him
3 years for this guy is not a good signing.
Dont jump to a conclusion yet I still need to see what the $$$$ figure is
Doubt they can trade a 3 yr contract without eating majority of it.
yea they would have to eat a bit of it but if a contender wanted him for a playoff push u never know but when i see it i look at as a upgrade for them over who at 2nd belliard??
Isn’t the oft-injured Furcal in the last year of his contract too? It makes a lot of sense for the Dodgers. He could even play 3rd in some games allowing them to move Blake to left. I hate the Dodgers, but this is a real good signing for them.
he is good insurance and just a nice utillity infielder
He has an option based on plate appearances. I think its 600, which I dont think he has reached in his Dodger career.
Fact. Bigtime.
hahah great analysis bud
are u being serious or sarcastic. Its been a while since i watched a dodger game but I just like the idea of a decent utility infielder for L.A. I shouldnt have really jumped to sayin it was a good signing till i see the $ figure
When the last time the Dodger traded somebody and got something in return,Milton? Anything Ned signs is un-tradable he signs players over their prime.
you never know u could always ship him to NY
Oh absolutely!! And just think: you can have Oliver Pérez, John Maine, and Luis Castillo in return!
Yeah…that’ll work.
First they make an offer to Huff….now Uribe…
If you can’t beat us…try to BE us!!
Now you’re trying to pretend that Guillermo Mota deal didn’t put you over the top…
😀
Haha awesome!
Hey at least the Dodgers have won a series in the last 25 years…
Wait…
1988, math major. And i’m a yankee fan
are you saying Yankee fans aren’t good at math or did something just fly completely over my head? I’m sure if i did miss something moonraker will remind me in a friendly way.
how many years has it been since 88?
23 but I took it that he meant that he was bad at math by being a yankee fan
Things you should have learned in middle school math:
– “in the last x years” signifies a range of years between 0 and x
– 2010 – 25 = 1985
– 1988 falls between 1985 and 2010.
I’d say the statement “the Dodgers have won a series in the last 25 years” is correct.
And I occasionally teach math.
things you should have learned in life:
how to convey sarcasm. That completely comes off as you mocking the Dodgers for not having won a WS in the last 25 years. I was saying 1988 was withing 25 years so take your lame sarcasm and poor reading comprehension elsewhere.
I kinda like his math.. the Giants have only 1 WS victory in the last 56 years.. The Dodgers have 6.
I’m pretty sure it was a sarcastic remark to what Dodger’s fans would say to Giants fans, which no longer works.
The offer to Huff has since been debunked no? No one associated with either the team or Huff said LA made him an offer, and Huff himself said it wasn’t true. Wouldn’t have shocked me, mind, but I doubt they ever talked. That 2 year deal was all Sabean’s prize. 😉
Do you think he gets $20 million+ over 3 ?
He’s a 230-240 hitter wtih a low 300 OBP, he doesnt help the Dodgers Lineup at all. He may hit 15-20 Hr’s but will Strikeout in and have many at bats that are given away. With Kemp, BLake, and Uribe there are a lot of LOW OBP on this team and not a lot of upside.
Kemp doesn’t have a lot of upside? Huh?
As for Uribe, the Dodgers’ second basemen had a collective .669 OPS and 3 HR last year. Uribe had a .750 OPS and 24 HR.
How doesn’t that help?
Kemp is starting to remind me of Jeff Franceur. My post said he doesnt help the lineup and i stand by that. They need someone to protect Kemp and Ethier or at least get on base. They would have been better off resigning theriot and throwing money at Beltre. He is anohter low OBP player in a lineup that already has too many.
They had no shot at Beltre coming back, he’s way out of their price range. Uribe gives them flexibility at least. Kemp is way too young and talented to make assumptions about given his drop off last year. He might also benefit from having a better or more intuitive coaching staff around him this year.
The Dodgers have added nearly $30m to their 2011 payroll on starting pitching alone. The idea that some players are “out of their price range” should be laid to rest by now. The problem with Beltre is they have no place to play him unless they find somewhere else for Blake, and he’ll probably get a ridiculously long contract, like he did with Seattle. Agree with you on Kemp though.
They got a .669 OPS from 2B last year. Uribe is an upgrade.
Uribe’s averaged 3 WAR the last 2 years. He’s an upgrade defensively and offensively as an everyday 2B. He can play short when Furcal gets injured next year. He gives the option of playing Blake in LF while Uribe fills in at 3B and Carroll at 2B. He can play some short in 2012 when Furcal is gone and Dee Gordon makes the transition to MLB. He can be a good utility guy at worst in 2013. As long as it’s not more than 6mil a year it’s a good deal.
Wouldn’t it be great if the Giants drafted the next Pujols (highly unlikely) with a gift from their rival Dodgers?
The Dodgers arent giving up the pick. Uribes a type b. Its a supplemental pick. (I think 😉
They’re still giving them a pick, just one that didn’t exist before.
Yeah, but anybody would be giving them that same pick, no matter who signed Uribe.
“As a Type-B free agent, he would give the Giants an extra draft pick if he signed elsewhere, though his new team would not have to give one up.”
from MLBTR, in the earlier thread about the Dodgers and Juan Uribe.
yeah, big whoop a sandwich pick, bfd.
i’d rather have OOOO–REEE-BAYYY!!!
Career OBP of .300. I know he has 6 WAR over the last 2 years but 3 years is too long for this guy.
Him?
Ned Coletti doing his best Ruben Amaro impression. Three years… ouch.
Agreed with all my fellow Dodger fans…3 years is way too long. If it is for 18 mil like CBlake’s contract then eh. He will be an expensive bench player like blake. This can close the book on Theriot (thank God), and probably rules out Dejesus in our future. I’d keep Dejesus in AAA and hope he improves on last years numbers and then he would be a valuable trade piece or competition for Gordon in 2012.
“Another effect may be a heightened sense of urgency for the Giants as they search for a shortstop.”
Marco Scutaro for Buster Posey straight up. Throw in Cain and we’ll consider taking on some salary too.
You’re kidding right? We’ll only throw in salary if Lincencum is thrown in as well.
oh man serious?
I know sarcasm isn’t always easy on internet boards… but some are just obvious.
Just when Colletti was starting to do things right (starting pitchers), he goes and does something foolish like this. Sigh. Three years? That makes zero sense.
That’s why it’s called a rumor. At the right price it might make some sense, but I can’t get too excited either way. If the .300 OBP belonged to a player already wearing a Dodger uniform, Dodger fans would be grumbling about having him released or traded. The main attraction to signing Uribe is how royally pissed off Giants fans would be, but IMO signing him probably isn’t worth the price of that small pleasure.
Why would we be pissed? He helped get us the commissioners trophy now you guys are WAAAAY overpaying him. Enjoy!!
I honestly cannot understand why so many baseball fans are obsessed with payroll. It doesn’t matter to me how much they pay the players so long as I can root for a winning team.
This is why I don’t own a jersey with a name on the back. As fans there is no point getting attached to players unless they sign a 6+ year deal. Players change teams, and the only thing that matters is money. To a fan the only thing that matters is our city. So Uribe, have fun in LA, we’ll miss you in SF, and once you sign that deal I raise a glass to you braking a leg (I mean really, break your leg).
You’re safe for a while with a Posey jersey
Yes, but I feel like I’d get my ass kicked wearing a name like Posey on my back.
Not if you’re Posey from The Dirty Dozen.
very true!! I have the posey and Timmy t-shirts.
Bumgardner… do it up
just imagine if you were a Marlins fan…it wouldn’t even be worth it to buy a jersey because I’m sure stanton, morrison, coghlan, johnson, nolasco and sanchez will all be gone within three years.
As a Dodger fan living in Giant territory, I think it’s a great get! Uribe’s stats don’t reflect how valuable he was to the Giants this year. He’s the best clutch hitter since Bill Russell.
he’s not really a clutch hitter, he just swings for the fences all the time. That worked for the Giants with their pitching when they only needed 2-3 runs.
Uribe’s 2010 postseason stats: .149/.196/.277
Uribe’s career postseason stats: .208/.264/.347
Good point, Matt, but they wouldn’t have made the playoffs without him (with honorable mention to the Padre’s 10-game skid). He didn’t play well in the post season, but neither did many superstars.
Those stats are worthless, Willie Mays hit .182 in the 1951 World Series so what!
I’m not saying he doesn’t provide value, but he’s not the most CLUTCH hitter. A clutch hitter comes through in important moments like the postseason.
you mean like Uribe’s game winning sac fly off Oswalt in the bottom of the 9th of Game 4 of the NLCS or maybe his solo HR off Madsen in the top of the 8th that won Game 6 of the NLCS or maybe his 3-run bomb that sealed Game 1 of the World Series? are you talking about important moments like those??
Just like Casey Blake was a decent player for the stretch run in 2008 and a decent player to bring back for a year with an option in 2009… Three Years for Casey Blake was Insane and a Gross Overpay… So is Juan Uribe for three years. Colletti despite doing some good things from time to time, still makes some head-scratching moves! At least signing Juan Uribe will not cost Carlos Santana though, so that is the glass-half full look at it…
This sucks for the Dodgers. Here goes Ned signing ex Giants. This is not the answer for 2b. Rather spend that money OF, 3b. If it come down to it Carrol can play 2b.
Please Ned don’t sign thus guy.
Carroll is best suited as a utility guy. As a starter, his value diminishes, not because he would suck as an everyday player, but he’s just more valuable in making the team he plays for off the bench better with his versatility—glove AND bat.
For 3 years the Doggies can have him.
Hate to see him go to the enemy but a bad contract takes a little of the sting out for sure.
If he stays in shape, he should have value even in the 3rd year of that contract because he can be traded to a team in need of defense/injury replacement for those 3 infield positions or a very dangerous pinch hitter.
This seems like a lie but whatever. Dodgers can have him for 3 years.
poor dodgers, a three year deal for a guy who hit .248 last year
Yes, his .248 average is the reason he doesn’t deserve this contract……
WTF…3 years, $21M…are you kidding me?
TWENTY-WHAT? Is Coletti high?
LOL 21million for 3yrs for this guy! HAHAHAHAHA
loldodgersdoyouknowwhatyouaredoing?
I was expecting a much larger overpay of maybe $24-25 but 21 is still pretty bad
3 years/21 million?
I want whatever Colleti is smoking.
Horrible signing. I hope that third year is a team option.
I wonder what the Cardinals are offering.
21 mill what in the name of all living things!
3/21??? What is going on this off season.Buck- 3/18Benoit 3/16.5Uribe 3/21 .. I wish I was a below average free agent mlb player
You are retarded. Uribe hit the 2nd most homers at SS in the majors. That is not below avg.
It is “not below average” if home runs are your only criteria. By almost every other offensive criteria, he’s below average.
FanGraphs had Uribe as the 7th best SS in MLB for 2010…better than jeter, reyes, scutaro, castro, andrus, bartlett, etc.
woopty freakin doooo and the jays hit the most homeruns in the league last year and got a very special medal for it, which is more valuable then the world series trophy.
He has a career .300 OBP and OPS’d under .700 in 3 of his last 5 seasons… yah thats pretty below average if you ask me… or anyone else who knows anything about baseball for that matter..
But you know what they say… chicks dig the long ball… so i guess thats why you like him so much.
game
set
match
thanks for coming out
Uribe won the Giants the pennant with his game 6 home run against the Phillies and then proceeded to help the Giants win the World Series. Go figure.
So what your saying is 1 big hit is enough to make you think someone is above average??
Sound reasoning.
Your argument to me was that home runs aren’t that valuable. I countered your argument and told you just one of many examples of how is home runs were valuable. I watched every Giants game this season and you cannot tell me is home runs meant nothing because in the end they won the world series because of many of his homers and clutch hits not only in the playoffs but in the regular season. That is far more valuable than any player on whatever team you liked last year. The dude is clutch and not to mention a leader and an outstanding clubhouse guy. And you are telling me I don’t know squat about baseball. Look in the mirror buddy.
its funny that you say that he OPS less than .700 in 3 of his last 5 seasons but fail to mention that the 2 seasons he’s over .700 were 2009(.824) and 2010(.749)…and yeah the HR isn’t everything but he hit a ton of clutch HR’s for the Giants in the last 2 years…
How is he not right homers arent everything remember his OBP is low and he K’s alot
I never said homers are everything but 24 homers and 85 rbi’s is far below avg at shortstop. Not to mention he can play really good D at 3 positions in the infield. And if you knew how clutch this dude is then you wouldn’t have said he’s below avg in the first place. Hah whatever. I wouldn’t expect Dodger fans to know any of this anyway because they don’t watch baseball.
I take back what I said about this being a good signing 3 year 21 mil for uribe is way TOO MUCH.
I called this one, the team is setting up nice for Donny Baseball.
Please lord, no. Maybe the 21 should be 12…please…
Another overpay for LA.
Lol…Colleti is so scared someone overbid Uribe that he is overpaying….Hmm Colleti = Minaya same as Bay overpaying lol
Wow, thats a lot. Makes you wonder what the good free agents are going to get this winter. Beltre is going to get PAID if this is what Uribe got.
i will take theriot back to the cubs, can back up second and short. just wish he could hit more than singles.
Next on the Ned COlletti Agenda….yet another former Giant…Yorvit Torealba. Kind of funny
Probably a LOT of backloading on these new LA contracts… McCheap is awaiting the new TV contract. Also makes one wonder if the proposed settlement by the McDivorce judge has a pro-Frank edge to it. If he’s got the bucks for these deals, what’s to stop him from something…larger?
So is McCourt a cheapskate, or a free-spender? I wish Dodger fans would decide.
Dodger fans never can make up their minds, they hated Pierre’s play (and contract) but love Pods play? Everybody thought I was nuts to try and trade Loney last year…but this year he needs to go? Martin was untouchable and now is unacceptable. We always buy high and sell low! This is why I am all about trading Kuo, he is at the peak in value and has a glass arm, but no we will wait until it falls apart and then be left with the bill for medical expenses
I say, don’t sell any of these players. It hasn’t happened yet, and should not happen at all, unless someone better is coming along.
Just imagine how much the good players will get when they start signing contracts. So much for the recession…
Giants should seriously make a run at Jose Reyes, even if the Mets are seemingly asking too much.
Start with Baumgartner for Reyes, and add pieces from there.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bumgarner plus for one year of broken Jose Reyes???
You made me laugh hard on that one!!!!
Insanity.
5 years of Bumgarner for 1 year of Reyes? Hell no.
IF it is really 3/21, Ned & Frank need to call Chuck.
“Physical is scheduled for tomorrow” Apparently this would include a mental fitness evaluation on Ned.
7 million a year in THIS market for an infielder who hit 25 hrs last year is not overpaying nearly as much as a lot of you act like it is. What IS dumb about it is the 3 year length. That seems tremendously risky to me. But his versatility made them ok with that is my guess, since Blake or Furcal or both could be gone after 2011.
Beltre would be double that contract in years and AAV
Yes I love Beltre’s glove and doesn’t strike out a lot. I understand what Beltre would cost, but beltre might come home for discount 10 million for 6 years. And Beltre has the best numbers for a dodger at 3b. Remember he left when he was only 26
Scutaro isn’t the most talented SS available sorry. Hardy and Bartlett are two players I would rather have. Tejada may be a stretch to play a full season of SS at this point but i would take him over little Marco as well. Boston will get nothing of value for him. If they can get a potential middle reliever arm and only have to eat part of the contract they should conisder that a win.
What about Reyes? He’d be a great fit for Giants.
The only evidence that he was pinching pennies was constant repetition of that “fact” by the sports media. If the echo chamber says it’s so, it must be. Still, I’d be surprised if they paid Uribe twice as much as he’s ever earned.
So, the Sox had Babe Ruth!
First off I am not a Red Sox fan but do have a great admiration for how Theo has adapted Billy Beanes GM philosophies into a great winning organization with solid minor league depth and respectable young talent at the MLB level. Second off Scutaro just isnt a very hot trade commodity. Bartlett is 4 years younger than Scutaro and both have essentially the same career OPS (721 vs 718).
Not offering arbitration to Wolf last year and signing Anderson and Ortiz boys and having Haeger starting in the rotation was good enough for me to think he was penny pinching last year.
Based on how Wolf performed in his first year in Milwaukee it seems not offering him arbitration was wise. Anderson looked like a good move on paper. They had lots of potential in that fifth rotation spot but nobody worked out. It happens.
It does happen, but when you go to the NLCS twice and lower payroll each year while increasing ticket prices, parking prices and concessions, and pay yourself over 10 million in rent for a stadium the team owns? He is a penny pincher to me, just this year he is so desperate to try and win LA’s appreciation back he is going to try and do desperate moves like this one.
Bartlett was also the worst defensive shortstop in the majors last year.
Bartlett was also the worst defensive shortstop in the majors last year.
As a baseball prospectus writer tweeted today, “I’d much rather have Uribe than Jeter.” And he said even if costs were even, which they won’t even come close to being. Jeter is a hall of famer who is going to be closer and closer to useless over the next 2 years. And will cost a fortune.
Sorry but this is confusing logic to me. I wasn’t aware that two consecutive trips to the NLCS was a problem. Yes we lost, but that’s a major improvement over what we’ve been treated to for years. The truth is, many Dodger fans seem determined to gripe whether or not McCourt spends money, whether we’re competitive or not. I think they just like to hear themselves complain. As for the cost of attending games, nobody likes paying for concessions or parking, but compared to other ballparks it’s not much different. FWIW, my season ticket prices haven’t changed in two years and I bring my own food most of the time.