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AL East Notes: Red Sox, Showalter, Sabathia

By Tim Dierkes | March 28, 2011 at 8:55am CDT

Among AL East clubs, only the Yankees will play on the season's first day Thursday.  Here's the latest from the division…

  • Relievers Dennys Reyes and Matt Albers made Boston's 25-man roster, reports WEEI's Alex Speier.  Hideki Okajima and Alfredo Aceves were optioned to Triple-A.  GM Theo Epstein explained to reporters that the choices were about "preservation of pitching depth," since he would have lost Reyes and Albers if they didn't make the team.  Scott Lauber of the Boston Herald has quotes from Okajima's agent Joe Rosen on the decision.
  • Orioles manager Buck Showalter stirred the pot in this Men's Journal interview with Paul Solotaroff, saying, "I’d like to see how smart Theo Epstein is with the Tampa Bay payroll."  Epstein has already accepted an apology from Showalter on the comments, tweets Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald.  
  • Red Sox 2010 second-round pick Brandon Workman changed agents from Kevin Hubbard to Jeff Berry of CAA Sports, reports Speier.  Workman had signed for $800K, about $165K over slot.  Track all the latest in our Agency Database.
  • Another strong year might make C.C. Sabathia the Yankees' best free agent signing ever, suggests Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  The contract could end up being a three-year, $60MM deal if the lefty opts out after the season.
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  1. Lunchbox45

    10 years ago

    Showalter’s comments really irk me.. he mocks the red sox and yankees for spending more money and calls out another team’s gm, meanwhile there is another team in his division who is competitive and won the division last year that spends LESS money than the O’s.

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    • start_wearing_purplestart_wearing_purple

      10 years ago

      You left out the parts where he used to manage a team with the highest salary (and couldn’t win) and screamed that Jeter was never called on inside pitches despite that ESPN proved that he actually gets called more than average.

      He’s a hypocrite trying to make himself more important than he is.

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      • Lunchbox45

        10 years ago

        I loved the part when he was like, thats why we loved beat teams like that..

        LOL okay, you’ve come in last how many years in a row now?

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        • rzepczynski

          10 years ago

          about half of a year, in which they went like 35-20 or something

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          • Lunchbox45

            10 years ago

            when it stopped mattering, people stopped taking the O’s seriously and played accordingly.

            Your a Jays fan, you should know how a strong finish to the season means nothing going in to the following season.

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          • Brian Culpin

            10 years ago

            Deleted – thought he was hired on Jun 30 but it was July 30!

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        • start_wearing_purplestart_wearing_purple

          10 years ago

          Well remember, the yanks and Diamondbacks did make the World Series… wait, that was after he was fired. And the Rangers did make it to the World Series… under his predecessor.

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    • Chris

      10 years ago

      He’s stated several times that he was saying it in more of a joking manner while bull shi**ing with a reporter. I love the attitude though. It’s like the Rays a few years ago, “Us against the world!”

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      • Lunchbox45

        10 years ago

        except the rays we’re a good baseball team

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        • Chris

          10 years ago

          Find me an article that said they were going to do anything before that season. They had about as much optimism from the press as the O’s do. In hindsight it was obvious. That’s the beauty of this game, anything can happen.

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          • JerseyJohn32190

            10 years ago

            I tried posting a link, but PECOTA predicted the 2008 Rays would win 88 games. Just google “2008 Rays pecota” and look at the first couple links. There was considerably more talent and hype on that team than there is for the O’s this year.

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            • notsureifsrs

              10 years ago

              oh no! a factsaster!

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            • Lunchbox45

              10 years ago

              considerably is an understatement.

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            • Chris

              10 years ago

              Eh PECOTA predicts 82 for the O’s this year. Guess those 6 games are a HUGE difference.

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              • Lunchbox45

                10 years ago

                they are.. 88 challenges for Wild card, 82 is fighting for 4th place.

                What are you new here?

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              • JerseyJohn32190

                10 years ago

                Take a look at last years standings. 6 games is the difference between the Yankees and Red Sox, Twins and White Sox, and Phillies and Braves. I would say 6 games is a big difference.

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                • Chris

                  10 years ago

                  I meant more in the aspect of projections. The Rays finished with 97 wins vs projected 88. Are the O’s gonna win 91? Very doubtful. I’m just hoping for .500 and building off of that.

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                  • wutangklanodb

                    10 years ago

                    Exactly and you need a manager that has an attitude with a young talented team like the O’s. As a Rays fan you could see a change in the culture when Maddon got there and you are starting to see it in Baltimore. Yes the end of the year didn’t matter as far as standings last season, but it gave them confidence and sometimes that’s all a young team needs.

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    • WhiteSoxHomer

      10 years ago

      I think the humor intended in the comment is that Epstein is seen as a genius. Epstein is good but his team’s payroll really helps smooth out his mistakes. It seems like this is a joke aimed at Epstein that also complements the Rays.

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      • notsureifsrs

        10 years ago

        imagine how many WS we would have won if I was as smart as Buck Showalter

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    • niched

      10 years ago

      His comments were supposed to irk the the Red Sox (and the Yankees). He did it jokingly and in good humor, but he’s probably trying to get under the competition’s skin a bit. If it upsets Francona or Epstein or anyone else in Boston, then mission accomplished. Billy Martin said worse things about Baltimore than Buck has said about Epstein or the Red Sox, and he said it at a time when the Orioles were about toughest competition out there for the Yanks.

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  2. NomarGarciaparra

    10 years ago

    While he is partly right in saying that the Red Sox has a lot more resources, it’s not easier to be a GM of a large-revenue club. With large-revenue comes great expectations. Imagine being the GM of the Pirates…if you come last, well, no surprise there. If you don’t come last, you look like a genius.

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    • Lunchbox45

      10 years ago

      There’s just as many bad big $ teams as there is good big $ teams. so I don’t think I agree with that . The expectations will be in places in boston and ny regardless of payroll

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    • jb226

      10 years ago

      I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I agree. Is there a different standard for winning in big markets and small ones? Sure, but that doesn’t mean the pressure goes away. The Pirates, “meeting expectations” by finishing last, have had more GM switches and far more managerial switches than Boston or New York or Chicago (both teams) or Los Angeles (both) who have all enjoyed varying levels of successes, from the “win almost every year” camp to the “in and out” club.

      The reality is, like in everything else, money talks. Big-money teams can afford to take gambles. If they pay off, they look extremely smart — and if they don’t, well, who cares? It doesn’t hurt that badly. A $1MM gamble for the Pirates is 2.5% of their payroll; a $5MM gamble is unheard of — that’s the range of their highest-paid players. It lets teams be more aggressive in the draft and particularly in areas like international free agency. It lets people get those quality free agents when their farm happens to be thin at a position or they feel like they can make a push. It lets them sign huge contracts that would not only obliterate other teams’ payrolls, but would absolutely cripple them for years and years if it didn’t work out.

      I’m not criticizing any team, nor am I saying that Theo Epstein is not a good GM. In fact, generally speaking, I think his mix of free agents, international free agents and drafted players ranks among the more impressive in the game. Likewise, you can find awesome GMs in low-payroll teams and horrible GMs in high-payroll teams. But of course money makes things easier.

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      • wkkortas

        10 years ago

        a $5MM gamble is unheard of

        Lyle Overbay nods appreciatively.

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      • notsureifsrs

        10 years ago

        a GM isn’t responsible for this, but i feel compelled to point out that having the money in the first place isn’t as simple as existing in a large market. the red sox have the tenth largest market by population and the seventh largest market by television market size, but they have the second highest revenue and payroll. this is in large part because they’ve done better as a business than several other franchises, for which they deserve credit and not criticism

        in other words, sure it’s hard to operate with less money. it’s also hard to make more money. some organizations do that better than others

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    • TheHotCorner

      10 years ago

      I would have to disagree with you. Just because you are a GM of a small market team doesn’t mean the fans don’t have the same expectations as larger market fans.

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  3. Timmy Hands

    10 years ago

    It seems like Buck probably figured he should play the “punk rock” role, showing his supposed smaller-market team they shouldn’t be intimidated (as if they were in the first place) of the Yankees and Red Sox. It backfired pretty badly in this instance, although I think we all expect the O’s to be an improved club on the field.

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  4. Rickli

    10 years ago

    His comments weren’t meant to place personal attacks on people. IMO, they were to tell the players and the media market that it’s time. It’s time for the Orioles to put up or shut up. No more excuses, it’s time to win.

    Now, with the comment about Theo Epstein, I have to agree with Showalter. I’d like to see Epstein build a team with Tampa’s market. He isn’t that smart, he built a well worthy 1st place team, but the depth didn’t show up last year. Good teams, have superb benches and depth. Unfortunately, the Red Sox didn’t have that last year.

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    • Brian Culpin

      10 years ago

      What? How did the depth not show up last year? You do realize they won 89 games without (for the most part) most of their lineup? Not sure which sport you follow, but 89 games would’ve been good enough to make the playoffs in any other division.

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      • Rickli

        10 years ago

        They did well last year, I’m not takin that away, but the Orioles broke even with them going 9-9, either the Red Sox were terrible (actually Papelbon and Beckett were) or the Orioles are finally becoming relevant again..

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        • Brian Culpin

          10 years ago

          Breaking even against a AAA team when you play in the majors is not something to be proud of ;)

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          • Rickli

            10 years ago

            A AAA team? Hahaha we will see about that this year

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            • Lunchbox45

              10 years ago

              He meant the red sox we’re a AAA team

              They went 9-9 vs sox, fine but went 15-3 vs jays. So you can’t really read in to it to much. small sample sizes, work themselves out over time

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  5. Rickli

    10 years ago

    Its nice to see that the O’s are lead by a man in Showalter, who is scared and he doesn’t shy away from the big bad Yanks and Sox.

    His type of mentality is what the Orioles have been lacking for the past 13 years, he has a winning mentality.

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    • Rickli

      10 years ago

      **who IS NOT scared

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      • start_wearing_purplestart_wearing_purple

        10 years ago

        No no, you were right the first time.

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        • Rickli

          10 years ago

          If we was scared do you really think he would have mad any comments attacking Boston or NY? Trembley never did..

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        • Fangaffes

          10 years ago

          Except that he misspelled “scarred”.

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  6. Adam

    10 years ago

    I’m surprised Okajima still has options. It’s kind of a snuff though. Okajima has been one of the best lefty relievers the last few years. Take it from a Cardinal fan though: Dennys Reyes will give up a lot of homeruns at Fenway.

    Oh, and I agree with Showalter. It’s not hard to sign the best players when you have an unlimited amount of money to work with. The A-Gon trade was a good one though. I really hope he keeps his word and signs him to an extension (so he won’t go after Pujols).

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    • bomberj11

      10 years ago

      Oki’s been one of the best lefty relievers the past few years? He’s gradually gotten worse and if he was one of the best he’d be on the 25 man roster right now.

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      • Adam

        10 years ago

        Think what you like. But Reyes couldn’t even get lefties out last year.

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  7. JayTeam

    10 years ago

    Buck was showing some bravado and if he’s going to be around for any length of time with the O’s, his teams are going to need it. He knows he’s in one brutally tough division, both short and long term. Sox and Yanks are the 2 highest spending teams in MLB. 3 opponents with top 10 records last year (and possibly this year as well). But future also – Rays, Jays and Yanks with 3 of top 5 farm systems, O’s 21st (BA). Loaded draft this year – Rays,Jays,Sox own 24 of the 1st 90 picks, O’s have 2. In a poll of GM’s last year, Epstein was chosen as the best in baseball, but IMO, Friedman and Anthopoulos are showing they’re not far behind. Good luck, Buck.

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    • notsureifsrs

      10 years ago

      i like this comment

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  8. ARod's Ring

    10 years ago

    Mr.Showalter, Instead of firing up your own team with your silly comments, your actually firing up two of the best teams in baseball against your Orioles, which I don’t think is a good idea when you still have to worried about the Jays and Blue Jays… have fun at 5th Place.

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    • Rickli

      10 years ago

      Lol they will not be in 5th place. The Jays will be

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  9. MB923

    10 years ago

    If Sabathia opts out, and if I’m the Yankees I offer the same amount of $ yearly he was making. Certainly do not do 7 years, but more so of 4-5 years. No team is going to match his AAV, so unless he wants to go somewhere else for less money, he will probably take a new contract. The Yankees should not do with Sabathia what they did with A-Rod (same years of a new contract and this time even more money)

    If the Yankees were smart, they shouldn’t offer him a dime more than what he makes now (at an AAV)

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  10. uncolaman

    10 years ago

    Hey Buck you forgot one thing add Cashman to that sentence. It’s not that hard when you make a mistake so what hust throw away the player and throw the monwy with it. Glad to see that Buck still says it how it is!

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    • roomwithamoose

      10 years ago

      how it is? like how even ESPN was able to point out how wrong his statements on Jeter was, or that having a high payroll guarantees success, but aren’t the mets amongst other teams examples you need to be educated to field a good high payroll team?

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      • OrangeCards

        10 years ago

        ESPN having favorable coverage of the Yankees? Impossible.

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        • roomwithamoose

          10 years ago

          read before being an A$$…I said EVEN to downplay their contribution to itelligent discussion… do I need to underline qualifying statements for you? or maybe just have someone else read for you?

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        • roomwithamoose

          10 years ago

          and it’s not favorable coverage, if you know non altered stats are used… if not taking statistics out of context, then they axtually tell you something useful. But your nonbacked manager’s subjective opinion is more more valid, I’m sure…

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  11. birdbrass190

    10 years ago

    The ESPN thing on Jeter actually didnt take everything into account, such as pitchers tend to try and go inside on Jeter more often than other hitters so the percentage of strikes goes up. Jeter does get alot of calls others dont, not knocking him when youve had the career derick jeter has had your gonna get calls others dont. Likewise Roy holliday gets calls brian matusz wont too, its nothing new.

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