Lefty C.J. Wilson will join Albert Pujols in Los Angeles, as the Angels continue a surprising free agent spending spree. The Halos completed a deal with Wilson today, learned Joel Sherman of the New York Post. It's a five-year, $77.5MM contract, according to ESPN's Karl Ravech, bringing the Angels' tally to $331.5MM on the last day of the 2011 Winter Meetings. The contract includes a full no-trade clause in the first two years and partial in the last three, tweets Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com. Wilson is represented by Bob Garber of Select Sports Group.
Wilson, a 31-year-old Fountain Valley, California native, will earn $10MM in 2012, $11MM in '13, $16MM in '14, $18MM in '15, and $20MM in '16, according to Richard Durrett of ESPN Dallas (via Twitter). The remaining $2.5MM makes up the southpaw's signing bonus.
Wilson posted a 2.94 ERA, 8.3 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 0.64 HR/9, and 49.3% groundball rate in 223 1/3 innings this year. He added another 28 innings in the postseason. Including the playoffs, Wilson has tallied a massive 479 2/3 innings over 76 starts since being converted back to a starter in 2010. Aside from perhaps the recently-posted Yu Darvish, Wilson was the best available pitcher this offseason. Wilson, who has a popular Twitter page, joins a stellar Angels rotation that includes Dan Haren, Jered Weaver, and Ervin Santana. Weaver had signed a five-year, $85MM extension in August, and it seemed like the Angels couldn't justify giving Wilson more.
The Rangers reportedly topped out at four years in their bid to retain Wilson, though they never made a formal offer and according to the player, weren't close. The Rangers will receive the Angels' second-round draft pick and a supplemental choice as compensation. GM Jon Daniels appears to already be exploring alternatives such as Darvish and Matt Garza. The Marlins were heavily in the mix for Wilson, reportedly making the best offer at $98-99MM over six years. In fact, Garber said the Marlins "would not let it go" and Wilson could easily have gotten $100MM.
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They have got to be pushing the Yankees for highest payroll in baseball now. Holy cow!
Bombshell
Break up the Angels!!!
Not even close. Even with the Wells albatross, the Pujols signing and now Wilson, they’re at absolute tops at around $150 right now (And that’s assuming a deal approaching $20 million annually for Wilson which I can’t see as even a remote possibility).
Buster Onley said their payroll would be around 170 million
So that would have to put them @ #2 then behind the Yankees? The Phillies are right around 170 aren’t they? Is Boston up in that neck of the woods?
Grade school math thinks Olney is wrong. Cot’s has them at $103 committed for 2012 (Which accounts for Weaver’s extension) and adding Pujols and Wilson at $26 and $15.5 a piece brings them to roughly $145. Unless they inexplicably end up having to give Morales a $20 odd million arbitration raise for sitting on the DL or Callaspo gets a big reward, I don’t see how Olney is getting $170 million.
That $103M that you are citing from Cot’s doesn’t include $3 for Hawkins, $3M for Aybar, ~$3M for Morales, $2M for Callaspo plus ~$400k each for the minimum players that will round out the payroll (such as Bourjos and Trumbo). Nor does it have Howie Kendrick. That should bring them to about $162M plus arbitration raises for quite a few players. The 2012 payroll seems like it would be closer to $170M than $150M.
Wells, Weaver, Hunter, Haren, and Santana account for $77M alone.
Add in $25M for Pujols and $15.5M for Wilson and you’re at $117.5M and still have 18 players to pay.
4 more players are signed for $20M (including Abreu & Kazmir buyouts). We’re now at $137.5M and still have 14 players to go.
5 players are arbitration eligible that made an average of $2.6M last year. Assuming the avg for these guys comes out around $3.1M, that’s another $15.5M. (Now up to $153M and 9 players to go)
Assuming these 9 guys get league minimum, you’re looking at another $4M there. Ending up around $157M. This would assume that the Angels are completely done adding players.
Personally, as a life long Rangers fan, these 2 signings SUCK!
I didn’t figure by AAV, and this isn’t exact because it’s using last years salaries for the arb/pre-arb guys, but I’ve got them at slightly over $159M right now.
theyre looking at about $185M Yanks are still ahead by probably $10-15M
This possibly could change though if they move Torii Hunter’s contract or are able to move Vernon Wells by including cash and prospects.
HAHAHA Wait until they make the playoffs and C.J gives up 8 runs!!
Yeah, but the’ll still have that damn monkey!
Well, the Rangers wouldn’t had made the playoffs without Wilson
CJ wouldn’t even have to pitch in the playoffs.
He’s are number 4, guy! He’ll be lucky to make the playoff roster on this team.
Wilson is better than Santana, he should be the 3 on that staff.
I really don’t agree with that but to each his own.
Care to say why? In the two years that Wilson has been a starter he’s been better than Santana in almost every single pitching statistic. The only thing that Santana has done better than Wilson in the last two years is walk one less batter per inning (only in the ’10 season) and had a better IP/GS ratio, by .5
Oh and Wilson has done this pitching in one of the worst parks to pitch in, while Santana has done it pitching at Angels stadium, which I believe is pitcher friendly.
Wilson is better than Santana, he should be the 3 on that staff.
who cares about CJ Wilson he sucks glad he is dead and gone out of Texas He sucks just like the whole Angle team the team cant just rely on the Big mexican Albert Pujols TEXAS RANGERS all the WAY!!!!!!!!!
I’m sure the Pujols signing put him over the edge.
I hate the Angels , friggin capitalist´s
Jelous lmfao
I’m sure he’s not jealous of your spelling. 😉
Hate the Yankees first then
Figures that in a conversation in which a non-Yankee team just spent $335 mil on 2 players that somehow, Yankee hate would rear it’s ugly head. Smh and saying wtf?
I’m sorry, when is it not a good time to hate the Yankees?
1) How much are you paying your top 2 players? $52M.
2) Yankees have been using big bucks to draw star players for WAY longer than the rest of the league.
3) Mazzaro’s point was 110% valid, no matter how much you didn’t like it.
4) The real person to blame is Tom Hicks.
And again, what does the actions of the ANGELS have to do with wanting to hate the YANKEES more than you did 1 minute before this announcement? Get a life.
So Mazzaro’s “hate the Yankees” because the Angels signed CJ and Pujols makes sense to you?
Kill yourself.
1) learn what reading comprehension is
2) learn what capitalism is
3) learn what (less than, greater than) is
4) Mazzaro’s “hate the Yankees first” post was directed at someone else who implied that they hate the Angels based solely on capitalism.
when it comes to capitalism Yankees > Angels, therefore, hatred based on capitalism should be Yankees FIRST, then anyone else you want to hate.
5) your lack of intelligence shows, and I am sorry for you.
6) a 6th grader could have schooled you on this.
7) seriously? telling people to kill themselves because you have an inferiority complex?
1-2) I know what both mean.
3) Not sure where I demonstrated an inability to know what “” mean.
For ex. I know that my logic is > than yours.
4) Who and what he was referring to weren’t lost on me. Point is still valid. Yankees didn’t invent capitalism.
5) A person shows their ignorance when they confuse a difference of opinion with a “wrong or right” argument. Please don’t pity me, my intellect certainly doesn’t come into question in this or any other forum, especially from the likes of you.
6) ??????
7) I suppose you thought I meant to “literally” commit suicide, huh? Get real. I don’t even know you, so what reasons would I have to feel inferior to you?
***Feeling the need to hate anyone because they spend or have more than you flies in the face of what makes America great. The sooner you accept that then you’ll be a happier person. Unless you’re a slacker who still lives with his mom. In that case…..kill your self (aka…shut up).
Somebody actually LIKED that statement? Appalling.
indirectly, by the yankees overpaying for all of the top free agent(s) that come along every offseason, it forces the rest of the league to either overpay themselves, or face the consequence of having the yankees buy out all of the best players on the free agent market. so this trend of spending too much on top players like Wilson and Pujols is a result of the yankees spending.
Look…the Yanks DO spend big but for the most part they are spending for talents that are either some of the best at their craft (Arod, Mo, Jeter (1st contract), Giambi, Sabathia) or were not market setting deals that may or may not have turned out well (AJ, Pavano, etc).
THE BIG problem if you want to point fingers is when mediocre guys are paid a kings’ ransom (see Zito, Soriano, Wells, Rios, Rowand, Park, etc).
Ppl can say all they want about what the Yanks signed Sabathia for but to ignore the Santana deal which was proceeded by the Zito deal which was proceeded by the Hampton deal is just plain ignorant.
it’s not HOW much you spend as much as it is WHO you spend it on.
Look at Arod. He was the best in the game when he signed the 10/$250 deal. That was record setting. It took Pujols almost a decade before he eclipsed it and he did so by a couple of mil. No one is upset with that, the market won’t be affected.
It’s a offseason like LAST year when Werth signed for $126 mil and was followed by Crawford at $141 that set precedent for non-elite players and throws the market into flux.
Look…the Yanks DO spend big but for the most part they are spending for talents that are either some of the best at their craft (Arod, Mo, Jeter (1st contract), Giambi, Sabathia) or were not market setting deals that may or may not have turned out well (AJ, Pavano, etc).
THE BIG problem if you want to point fingers is when mediocre guys are paid a kings’ ransom (see Zito, Soriano, Wells, Rios, Rowand, Park, etc).
Ppl can say all they want about what the Yanks signed Sabathia for but to ignore the Santana deal which was proceeded by the Zito deal which was proceeded by the Hampton deal is just plain ignorant.
it’s not HOW much you spend as much as it is WHO you spend it on.
Look at Arod. He was the best in the game when he signed the 10/$250 deal. That was record setting. It took Pujols almost a decade before he eclipsed it and he did so by a couple of mil. No one is upset with that, the market won’t be affected.
It’s a offseason like LAST year when Werth signed for $126 mil and was followed by Crawford at $141 that set precedent for non-elite players and throws the market into flux.
Good lord you are a retard, and this is coming from a Sox fan.
Figures that in a conversation in which a non-Yankee team just spent $335 mil on 2 players that somehow, Yankee hate would rear it’s ugly head. Smh and saying wtf?
Lol-hilarious
WOW…Rangers are toast! That is one SICK rotation! Congrats to the fans, Christmas came way early this year!
I wouldn’t say toast, but this clearly makes the Angels the favorite for the division for the time being. The only way the Rangers get back into the discussion right now is by signing Fielder AND Darvish.
So you’re basically agreeing with me then
Toast =/= not favorites. Everyone said they were toast when the Rangers lost Lee and they made it back to the World Series. The Angels are the favorites for their DIVISION with this move, but I certainly wouldn’t count the Rangers out of the running. There’s still the Wild Card and they could always surprise the Angels for the division.
Basically, I’m arguing the middle ground. The Angels improved dramatically to the point they’re the on paper favorites, but the Red Sox were the on paper favorites this time last year, soooo…
so wait just because the Angels signed Albert and CJ the rangers are toast am I missing something or did you throw 90+ win Texas in the trash
Texas is still good and has one of the best farms in the buisness they will likely try to trade for Gonzalez,Jurrjens or even Garza
Texas is still good and has one of the best farms in the buisness they will likely try to trade for Gonzalez,Jurrjens or even Garza
When did I say they’re toast? I said the Angels are now the on-paper favorites to win the division, which they clearly are. They signed the offseasons best pitcher and best position player and the Rangers lost their best pitcher. Unless the Rangers sign Darvish, they’ve taken a step back while the Angels have taken a monumental step forward. Pujols alone puts the Angels on even footing with the Rangers having lost Wilson, adding Wilson WHILE subtracting him from Texas puts them over. The pair of them alone were worth a full 11 WAR last year.
Anything can happen and there’s no winning the WS on paper, but the Angels are now in a better position than the Rangers for the time being.
The Angels have just picked up 8 Wins from Pujols and 6.5 wins from CJ Wilson (over Pineiro).
Based on WAR, the Rangers now will need to win 101 games to clinch the division.
little to early to make that declaration. I believe A’s fans about this time were saying they were also gonna win it. Offseason isnt done yet.
The Angels just added a guy who averages 8 wins a season at 1st base. Another guy who has provided 5 wins on average over the past 2 years into the rotation. They subtracted Jeff Mathis and replaced him with a catcher that is a huge upgrade. Those moves alone could easily add 15 additional wins.
Now they can trade Trumbo and Morales. They can move Abreu. They can discuss Santana leaving. That’s a boat load of talent that could be coming our way. Trout should be up with the club before long.
I shutter to think how the team might look in 5 years but for 2012 the Angels have to be the clear favorites in the AL West and depending on what they do with trades, maybe even the entire AL.
If they trade Santana, though, that would be like swapping Santana for Wilson — not a huge upgrade. And it would be a bad idea to trade Morales until he proves he’s healthy — they wouldn’t get much for him right now. So, I bet they trade Trumbo and Abreu for prospects/salary relief.
If they trade Ervin they will get a lot more in return. Abreu isn’t going to bring much hes a dump. Trading Trumbo gives them little salary relief, but agood return. Trading Ervin in this market for pitching makes sense.
But who would be their 4th starter then? What I’m saying is that they’re not going to be able to trade Santana for a MLB-ready pitcher who is better than Santana, so there’d be a drop-off for 2012 at the #4 spot in the rotation, thereby diminishing the value of signing Wilson (only talking about 2012…). But of course they’d get a nice haul of prospects for Santana, so that would be an upgrade long-term. Also, they’d get salary relief if they ate, say, $4M of Abreu’s contract and traded him for a low-level prospect. They don’t really have anywhere to play Trumbo, so might as well trade him.
If they trade Santana, though, that would be like swapping Santana for Wilson — not a huge upgrade. And it would be a bad idea to trade Morales until he proves he’s healthy — they wouldn’t get much for him right now. So, I bet they trade Trumbo and Abreu for prospects/salary relief.
Everyone will overrate the Angels now.I admit there good and they do have Trout coming up and just acquired probably the best hitter in baseball aswell as C.J but you cant just say ah Texas is junk.Trust me I bet Daniels is on the phone with several clubs now
ONE guy is saying Texas is junk (And honestly, I think he was only doing it to make a pun about Texas Toast, which is admittedly very tasty). The Angels being the best team on paper in the AL West and the Rangers still being a great team are not mutually exclusive.
I think you’re giving our triple hops addled friend a bit too much credit there, but I like Texas Toast as well.
The signings by the Angels aren’t bad either. Paper means nothing though, as our favorite “greatest team ever” showed. With the additional wildcard the postseason becomes even more about which team is hot at the right time. All the Rangers have to do is make it in, and anything can happen. No doubt the division race just got extremely tight though.
Texas’ bid for Darvish, which was already going to be very high, just got a lot higher.
Everyone will overrate the Angels now.I admit there good and they do have Trout coming up and just acquired probably the best hitter in baseball aswell as C.J but you cant just say ah Texas is junk.Trust me I bet Daniels is on the phone with several clubs now
Too many words, might I suggest editing to:
“They subtracted Jeff Mathis and that is a huge upgrade.”
“They subtracted Jeff Mathis and replaced him with a catcher.”
Either one gets the same point across.
I still find it hilarious that a .238 hitter is a huge upgrade at catcher.
but all the a’s organization does is spin “cheap” into “smart”, fans and extreme saber’s eat it up, then the season starts, the players actually have to play games, and the field of fail replays itself.
They beat them by 10 games last year. I’d hardly say they’re toast, especially since transactions aren’t quite done yet and the season hasn’t even started. It’ll definitely make things more competitive.
Toast, dude, really? you think our throw away pitcher completes your rotation that we owned last year? Keep dreaming, ever heard the term, “Jump The Shark” now you’ll remember where you were the moment the angels did.
I’m not sure about toast, but definitely buttered.
x-mas came early for the angels
Damn…way to go out with a bang, Winter Meetings…
The rich, just got richer…
jelous lol
what!??!??!
I am of the group that believes CJ isn’t nearly as good as his numbers are. I think this will be a deal that turns bad sooner rather than later.
true they did kinda over pay him
your assessment is correct. he’s had issues with innings over the past two years, and has not performed well in the playoffs. i wouldn’t be surprised to see him have serious arm issues soon. and i think nolan ryan didn’t pursue him because of this. he’s a stretched out closer, and i’d be concerned, especially with such a lucrative and lengthy deal.
Well, he certainly showed signs of fatigue at the end of the year. He has always been walk-prone
I’m with you. The guy has been a SP for 2 years. For me, he is a # 3 who will be overpaid. But, it doesn’t hurt to take him from the Rangers if you are an Angels fan
He’s a #4 or #5 if you put him on the Phillies. 😛
I have to agree with you, thankfully for him people tend to have short term memories only…This is going to end up like Lackey and Burnett by year 3
I was a little disappointed that the terms weren’t 5/82.5. Would have been more fitting. Who knows, maybe Arte’s superstitious and that’s why they didn’t?
he doesn’t have to be an ace. weaver and haren still are ahead of him in line.
yeah no way he’s sustaining that HR/9, and I’m not willing to believe he all of a sudden can shave a full walk off his BB/9. You never know, but he’ll probably get hurt before we find out.
Which numbers? His ERA? His sparkling FIP? He’s moving into a better pitchers environment playing in front of just as good of a defense. Saying he isn’t as good as his numbers suggest is just another way of saying, “I’m a pissed of Rangers fan.”
See how easy it is: “Josh Hamilton’s numbers are bloated”. “Nelson Cruz got lucky”.
Also, now he’ll be pitching AGAINST the Rangers on a regular basis, rather than against the (pre-Pujols, pre-Ianetta) Angels.
Pujols and Wilson and ?, Oh My.
Making us Yankees look like the pre 2011 Marlins.
Gonna be a tough pill to swallow for the whole AL though having to face Albert in the playoffs will be harsh
Yes it will. I’m going to the Yankees opening home game next year and they are playing……….the Angels. First time I get to see the machine.
Gonna be a tough pill to swallow for the whole AL though having to face Albert in the playoffs will be harsh
no way!! I hope Texas enjoyed those 2 trips to the WS because they won’t be going back for a loooooong time….
And neither will the Angels with their current bullpen.
Yeah, Jordan Walden, Scott Downs and LaTroy Hawkins suck.
Yeah, Jordan Walden, Scott Downs and LaTroy Hawkins suck.
they have a pretty good bullpen. this isn’t a yankee posting you know 😛
Rangers and Angels just renew great rivalry. Rangers took Napoli last year and now Angels take Wilson. The teams I feel really bad for is the Astros, Mariners and the A’s…
Astros fans after hearing about move to the AL West: “Well, at least we don’t have to play Pujols every year”.
MLBTR: “Angels to Sign Pujols”
Astros fans: FFFFFFFUUUUU.jpg
That’s exactly what I was thinking at work and my dad sending me a text saying the same thing!
Wow. What a day!
Wow, Angels doing work.
HOLY $^$&*%*&#&$^&*#$* HAHAH UNREALLLL!
your doing the same comments again to just get “likes”
haha get a life bro..
Wanna Fide About it?!
I just wanna say, that you’re my favorite troll on here.
It was just meant to be funny , cuz i literally had the same reaction when Wilson signed , so i thought it would be funny to post the same reaction… people are so senstive lol But i appreciate it the love!
Can’t fight about it when your behind a computer screen..SMH
Woooooosh
You will all like this one more
HOLY $^$*#$* HAHAH UNREALLL!
I liked the original better.
ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS ARE BELONG TO US
haha nice
Wow, angels on fire.
Angels have certainly put themselves back into strong contention with these moves (whether they are ultimately well-advised or not), and the Rangers have to be feeling the pressure. I’d expect the Rangers to step up on both Garza and Darvish, with a preference toward Darvish — but if he gets poached by the Yankees or somebody like that, the urge to make a deal will be huge. Can only be a good thing for me as a Cubs fan!
angels just won the offseason, signed best hitter and best pitcher on market
im guessing you totally forgot the Marlins signed Reyes,Bell and Buerhle they havent won. The Marlins will be all in on Fielder since they did not get Wilson ill promise u that
Hey Miami…screw you, there is a new horse in town…Mighty impressive Anaheim..Does this push them past Texas yet? Is Daniels going to make a reaction move that sux??
13-year contract for Fielder. Also, hell freezes over.
So tired of the monopolizing of high end talent, whats the point of watching a sport where only a few teams actually have a shot?
Just because these teams land the prized free agents doesn’t mean they win the world series.
False.
Sign,
A Devoted Red Sox Fan Since Birth crying into my 2010 Winter Meetings Trophy replica.
The Pujols effect strikes already. No doubt was a factor in convincing CJ to go ahead and sign.
Marlins, consider your thunder taken.
ZOMG
CJ signed because of Pujols.
Good, I didn’t want the fish getting CJ.
Meh. I wanted CJ, but I’ll be glad if we can get one of Jackson or Oswalt to go with Buehrle and JJ.
Anyone else agree this offseason sucks? We have two teams signing every freaking player. If the MArlins sign Fielder, then the top-ranked MLBTR free agent to NOT sign with the Angels or Marlins will be Edwin Jackson (I don’t count Darvish as as FA).
What the hell is this? Angels and Marlins to the AL East!
Ortiz was a free agent, technically.
Ortiz was a free agent, technically.
Wilson getting a 6 year contract is flat out bad, but if it does work out okay, youre looking at one of the best rotations in baseball. They can trade Kendry to fill in some holes, Angels seem stacked for next year
Where do you see 6 years
i commented before they listed the years, i assumed it was 6 since the Marlins were offering 6
Once LaTroy Hawkins signed, all the rest just fell into place…
LOL. See, I think it was more of the Mathis trade that confirmed it for me.
yeah they traded mathis away to free up the number 5 for pujols:)
yeah they traded mathis away to free up the number 5 for pujols:)
Chris Bosh will be an Angel within the hour.
wow. Angels making up to their fans for last off-seasons mess!
ima be just like the rest of you fans on the yankees……Angels and marlins are buying a championship!!!
The Marlins have to rely on attarcting fans thats where this money is coming from.I will laugh so hard if they dont attract so many fans and become broke
ARTE IS THE VATICAN ASSASSIN. That’s what you get for cuckolding Arte in the Miguel Cabrera trade talks Marlins.
kendry is gonna be gone for sure….
more then likley they stick trumbo at third…
hopefully trade bobby izturus….etc…and not ervin….great rotation..holy heck
they will probably grab aramis for 3b and make themselves a juggernaut.
trumbo is terrible and they are better off without him. if he hit 10 HR instead of 29 he’d be viewed as the worst player in baseball, the only thing he does well is hit some bombs, and mike jacobs can tell you thats no recipe for success in the big leagues.
Damn
I was realllllly hoping he would sign with Miami so they wouldn’t have as much money to compete for Cespedes. Well hopefully they go get Fielder now!
I hope we don’t go after Cespedes. Too many questions and he’s asking a crap load of money for never having faced Major League pitching…
At first I was totally against it but after looking into it more I really want him. I doubt he’l actually get the 60 mil he’s asking for, that’d be crazy.
I agree, though my hope makes me a bit biased. He hasn’t gotten an official offer, and yet people assume we can’t afford him? 5-6 mil/yr seems a risk we could take.
Even if he regresses, moving from one of the best hitter’s parks in the league to one of the best pitcher’s parks will offset a lot of it.
Angels won’t keep their current rotation. No way they can afford all of them. They are not the Phillies!
LA has ALOT of money, I mean LA the city now just imagine how many fans this brings in.
Phillies have Aces.. Wilson isnt quite one of those.
160 mil payroll with the likes of Hunter/Abreu off the books next year (thats like 30 mil)
It’s good to be an Angels fan today.
That’s what the (insert your high paying sports franchise here) fans said during the off-season too. #Heat #Eagles #Phillies #Red Sox #Yankees
Yankees? Why because of Rafael Soriano? lol
for those who say the Angels won the AL west already remember the Eagles and the fans did the same thing this summer. The Rangers have money to spend while the Angels must cut a lot of payroll. Wilson is not that good. Their is a reason the Rangers never really tried at all to resign him.
Angels must cut payroll? You’re funny.
Los Angeles Devils of Anaheim? I kid, I kid…
Angels are now also favorites to win the Stanley Cup.
As a side note, the best move the Angels have made this offseason was hiring Dipoto to replace Reagins. Reagins never would have been able to nab the top position player as well as the top pitcher available on the free agent market.
Just imagine they canned Reagins a year earlier and weren’t stuck with Vernon Bleeping Wells
Noooo! I guess it is good the A’s are going through a rebuilding until they get into San Jose. Angels will be the team to beat the next 3 years but in the long run both these deals will hurt.
I can imagine DiPoto lighting up a cigar, leaning back in his chair, kicking his feet up on his desk and saying, “check-f’ing-mate, bishes!”.
I can imagine the owner 2 years from now in bankruptcy court…
lUV IT!
Ok, so what we’re saying is C.J. Wilson is $500,000 more valuable than Mark Buehrle?
The Marlins are idiots if they gave Buehrle $14.5 million over taking Wilson. Granted, there was an obvious hometown discount here, but still.
At least with Buehrle, he’s been very consistent through out his career. We still don’t know what to expect with CJ Wilson. Believe me, I wanted both, but it was clear he wanted to play in LA.
I think the difference b/t Buelhre and Wilson is that, although Wilson has been GREAT for the last 2 seasons, Buelhre has been VERY GOOD for much longer.
I’ll dispute the claim of “VERY GOOD,” and submit “pretty good.”
He’s been sitting aorund 3.5 WAR per season for the last 5 seasons, except for one, which is pretty good, but not borderline great.
Apparently the Marlins’ offer was 6/80. Not enough to get it done, so I wouldn’t say this was a hometown discount. CJ got the better deal with the Halos.
Dammit! The Angels are stealing the Marlin’s thunder.
We need another SP. Whose left? Not brokeback Oswalt….. NOOOOOOO!
Oswalt or Jackson.
Theres still darvish
Where is all the money coming from? It makes no sense. How does 20 mill to spend this offseason become signing Wilson and Pujols!? Last season the Angels have a salary of around 116 mill. If you add lets say 45 mill to it. That would make them potentially have the 2nd highest team salary in baseball only behind the Yankees. Something seems fishy…and that fishiness must mean trades are impending.
Desperation to undo public opinion about trading Napoli and taking on Vernon Wells is probably behind this. You know disgruntled Angels fans will be completely satisfied with these moves and forget all about Napoli and Wells. I’d say Angels management just bought themselves about 3-5 years of affection from their fanbase.
Desperation to undo public opinion about trading Napoli and taking on Vernon Wells is probably behind this. You know disgruntled Angels fans will be completely satisfied with these moves and forget all about Napoli and Wells. I’d say Angels management just bought themselves about 3-5 years of affection from their fanbase.
This notion that the Angels only had “20 million to spend” was entirely false. Going by last year’s payroll, that’s how much the Angels had to spend. But Moreno has LONG maintained that he’d bust out the checkbook for the right deal.
A player like Pujols practically pays for himself, ESPECIALLY in a huge market like LA/OC that has a strong latino presence. Factor in the FSW cable deal that the Angels are currently in the process of restructuring and it’s not hard to see how this is feasible.
Arte is banking on the Upcoming TV deal with Fox.
Wow, Dipoto you saint and Arte, just wow!!! Payroll still only about $160m a year, with a lot more coming off the books next season. Pujols is going to bring so much money in endorsements. Trumbo at 3rd and K-Mo the dh!? Line up is going to be amazing!
I believe you said you would apologize to Dipoto 🙂
Dude, I’m even buying special paper to print this apology on.
Angels Trade Trumbo for Bailey , Book it!
Fail trade for the A’s. Won’t happen. 1B needs to be a competition with the internal guys; deal with the outfield.
I think you’re confused. Trumbo is way more valuable than Bailey.
Value wise, yeah. More along the lines of: if they’re going to trade pieces, trade for players that fill more pressing needs since you have multiple 1B prospects/young guys.
Ha yeah I’ll book you into the insane assylum.
Not saying it SHOULD happen, just saying it will lol
Thank god he isn’t going to Miami.
Rangers just hit the panic button.
Now you’ll realize how important that gag was in game six and in the past two world series
Rangers just hit the panic button.
Now you’ll realize how important that gag was in game six and in the past two world series
I AM SO FKN HAPPY!! THANK YOU JERRY DIPOTO AND ARTE MORNEO
Joe Wright is happy!?
HHHwhat? your excited for moves the angels did?
and I thought the signing of pujols and wilson was big :0
I’m happy knowing that the Angels are probably reaching the top of their payroll and won’t be able to compete with the Rangers for free agents and foreign players for at least the next 5 years. Wilson will show flashes of brilliance and might win 15 games a season for the next couple of years for the Angels…but he’ll frustrate when he gets roughed up and spirals downward inside his own head. It’ll happen more as he gets older. Pujols will hit…for now…but we’ll check his production and see if it slides in the last 4-5 years of his deal.
Thanks for the heads up! 😀
I’m happy knowing that the Angels are probably reaching the top of their payroll and won’t be able to compete with the Rangers for free agents and foreign players for at least the next 5 years. Wilson will show flashes of brilliance and might win 15 games a season for the next couple of years for the Angels…but he’ll frustrate when he gets roughed up and spirals downward inside his own head. It’ll happen more as he gets older. Pujols will hit…for now…but we’ll check his production and see if it slides in the last 4-5 years of his deal.
I hope they don’t trade Santana now. We have power and pitching, if Arte can make the money work please don’t trade anybody but Abreu.
Who wants Abreu, though? And why wouldn’t you deal one of your other first basemen? Morales and Trumbo won’t do you any good sitting on the bench.
I hope they don’t trade Santana now. We have power and pitching, if Arte can make the money work please don’t trade anybody but Abreu.
Wow. Just waking up to the news. X-mas came early. Where’s that Dodgers fan that said he would throw up a lung if Albert signed with the Angels? Is he OK?
jokes lol
WEEEE ARE THYE CHAMPIONS MY FRIIIEEEENDDD
Boston was singin the same tune around this time last year
Wilson for 5 years/$77.5 >>>> Buehrle 4/$58
It’s odd how one LA team gives away blank checks to free agent and the other LA team is near bankrupt..
Not only is this rotation sick now …. But Trumbo is completely blocked by Albert you may see the Angels spin him to Tampa for even another starter like Wade Davis.
Given DiPoto’s desire to acquire better OBP players, I doubt he’s too concerned with blocking Trumbo’s sub-.300 OBP
So where is the outrage that we’d be hearing if the Yankees did this? I guess it’s okay for other teams to dish out huge contracts to take legendary players from the team they should have retired with, but not for the Yanks. You small market fans are as predictable as you are hypocritical.
It’s coming….just wait…The Angels just entered the “Trying to buy a Championship Club” w/ the Yankees and Red Sawks
Let’s not leave the Phillies out.
There’s a difference between doing it every year and doing it every once in awhile.
So it’s ok to do once in awhile and not every year? What is the difference? I really want you to explain how this is different since the Angels have just done it effectively for the next five to ten years. Don’t let a little objectivity get in your way!
Yeah the Yankees sign a big free agent every single year.
OMG FREDDY GARCIA, WORLD CHAMPS!!!!
I love how all the haters are bad mouthing these deals. The Angels just went out and signed the best FA player and the best FA pitcher. Sure they took on Wells last year, but just go back and remember all the $$ they did not spend over the past several off-seasons. Lackey (basically offered the same deal that they just signed Wilson with), Crawford, Figgins, KRod, etc… Add up all that $$ and it’s not much less than what they spent this morning.
Those with magical crystal balls (I always wonder where they get them) say 10 years is too long, he’ll break down, look at what’s happened to A-Rod, blah, blah, blah. I say Arod’s past was inflated (juicer). I say Albert is one of a kind, no comparable players, so who’s to know how it will play out. I’d say that it’s 50/50 that at the end of this deal Albert will still be popping 30 bombs and knocking in 100, as an Angel fan, I’ll take those odds.
“I say Albert is one of a kind, no comparable players, so who’s to know
how it will play out. I’d say that it’s 50/50 that at the end of this
deal Albert will still be popping 30 bombs and knocking in 100, as an
Angel fan, I’ll take those odds”
Yep.
I think Pujols will be a deadly player until the day he retires. All the haters will be eating their words. No way that contract is to much, to me, you couldn’t pay Pujols enough to be on your team.
That’s just crazy.
“He’ll break down, and production will lower”. He can move to DH now that he’s in the AL that wasn’t going to happen unless STL switched leagues, and when his production lowers he’ll finally be where the rest of the league is, smart for Pujols.
Also side note if Pujols averages 32 homeruns in the 10 years he’ll be the homerun king. He’ll be 42 (max 45ish i think if he isnt actually 32) When the deal is done, maybe he’ll ask for some incentives if he hits those milestones.
A-Rod still will be playing at least 6 more years. He will probably pass Bonds but not by much. He will get near the 800 mark.
Almost all of the big name free agents have now signed in 2 cities. Weird offseason. These teams are in win now mode. We’ll see if it pays off. Congrats to both the Angels and Marlins.
The Angels pretty much made that new Wildcard spot that much harder for the rest of the AL to get. Wonderful… and people are saying you can’t buy a championship? Whatever!
Mike Hampton anyone?
Nolan Ryan- “But Moooooooom! The Angels are not playing fairrrrrrrr!” Suck it Texas!
500 innings in the last 2 years on this guys arm and there are people out there who think this is a smart signing? They will regret this one by the All Star break and be reading the fine print on their insurance policy by October.
I have always liked the Angels, but these are really bad moves.
haha the rangers are screwed. as an a’s fan, we will see you guys in 3 years when were in san jose and can afford to go ham on free agents, sigh
The Nationals fans were saying they would get a big free agent.Have fun with the Werth contract for many years losers
My predictions for standings at the end of the year
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Rays
3. Yankees
4. Blue Jays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians
3. Royals
4. White Sox
5. Twins
AL West
1. Angels
2. Rangers
3. A’s
4. Mariners
AL Wildcards Rays, Rangers, Rays win play in game
NL East
1. Phillies
2. Braves
3. Marlins
4. Nationals
5. Mets
NL Central
1. Cardinals (wow the NL Central sucks)
2. Reds
3. Brewers
4. Pirates
5. Cubs
6. Astros
NL West
1. D-Backs
2. Rockies
3. Dodgers
4. Giants
5. Padres
NL Wildcards
BRaves, Marlins Marlins win play-in game
I think the Red Sox sign Darvish
way too early for predictions, rosters arent even set yet
You’re nuts. Boston in first place? Run by a manager who has never finished a team in first place and who is so divisive and hated that there is no way he can rein in that clubhouse? And the Rays beat out the Yankees? No chance, I know the haters love to dream, but it’s just not happening.
And the Angels definitely got a lot better, but even with Pujols and Wilson, the Rangers are still incredibly good. That lineup is killer and Feliz is going to the rotation.
Cardinals to win the division? I don’t think so. Even if Wainwright comes all the way back and Carpenter can somehow stay healthy for most of the season, Brewers still have a better staff and Ryan Braun. Berkman will not repeat last season and Albert is gone.
I really don’t see how you get the Giants coming in at 4th place in the NL West. Lincecum and Cain are the best one-two in that division by far. I don’t understand how they are somehow going to be worse than the Rockies and Dodgers who haven’t done anything to make themselves better. In fact, the Dodgers just lost Kuroda, so they’re even worse off right now.
I didn’t and don’t like the Valentine signing, but how the Mets and Rangers did under Valentine 10 and 20 years ago has nothing to do with how the Red Sox will do under him next year.
I also would be shocked if the Sox sign Darvish. I’m not sure if any of you had to watch any games that Dice-K pitched, but he was mediocre and they got burned bad. I’m not saying Darvish is the same, but I think the Red Sox would need to be incredibly impressed to consider shelling out more money for another Japanese pitcher with no MLB experience.
Actually I dont have an issue with Rays over the Yankees. I really don’t see Colon doing it again next season, AJ and Hughes are very shaky. That rotation is paper thin. I do agree the Sox boat is taken on water fast. Rays may win the AL East
Colon is not on the team and in all liklihood won’t be back
The Yanks lost Jorge Posada….and shoot down to No.3? What happened?
Rangers fan here. I hate the Angels but holy crap this is what baseball is about. Good job Angels in making the West crazy again
True story! crazy season in the west i hope
Where did they come up with this money?????
I have no doubt that the huge TV deal got locked up in the last 3-4 days ago….that is the only thing that makes sense to Arte spending like this….
Yup and the same thing carllafong said he will create lots and lots of sellouts
they are in the same scam as the marlins.
Where did they come up with this money?????
This spending spree is just their way of justifying the
CasperVernon Wells trade.“See? Money ain’t no thang!”
Vernon* Don’t sully Casper’s good name with that filth!
Haha, whoops! Fixed it.
Haha, whoops! Fixed it.
This spending spree is just their way of justifying the
CasperVernon Wells trade.“See? Money ain’t no thang!”
definately had nothing to do with pujols signing, buddy already agreed in principal yesterday
definately had nothing to do with pujols signing, buddy already agreed in principal yesterday
Angels = 2010 Red Sox offseason.
I’d say it more resembles the Yankees 2008(?) offseason.
Angels = 2010 Red Sox offseason.
Welcome to Anaheim CJ !
Arte is about to sign a 1.6billion dollar tv deal(probably can ask for more now) and 27m is coming off the books next season. Payroll still not as outrageous as Boston/NYC. If Trumbo is moved to 3rd successfully and K-Mo does not get traded and returns healthy as a DH, thus making Abreu your bench bat, just wow! With this line-up and starting rotation, the Angels are top 2 in baseball. Glad to be a mighty Halo fan.
Not saying we will win the w.s. but still top 2 on paper.
The Angels have picked up 8 Wins from Pujols and 6.5 wins from Wilson (over Pineiro). Now the Rangers have to win 101 games to clinch the AL West. This is probably my worst (Ranger related) nightmare.
Can we give this guy some love, too, welcome to the Halos, CJ!!
I kinda already forgot who the previous GM was for the Angels
That’s a lot of money for a guy who’s 31 and only has 2 good seasons as a starter to his name…
I disagree completely, Brian. I think he’s a better pitcher than CC and that he’s less of an injury risk.
I think the Angels just signed their second ace for the price of a middling #2 or less. I think it’s an amazing deal if he stays healthy.
lol Wilson > CC?
hey whats going on with kendry morales?
Living 15 mins from the The Big A just got a whole lot nicer =)
And now it’s time for the Lakers to get Howard and Paul….MUAHAHHAH
Cj wilson aint even mexican let alone some kind of hispanic decent. Why would he turn his back on the far better rangers team. Angels overpaid for pujols and winless wilson. Rangers win AL WEST third straight season. Mark my words
do you realize how stupid you sound?
I am not sweating either signing. The Rangers have come so far and are in overall good shape despite losing what many thought was their best SP. I think losing Lee the previous year was a tougher pill to swallow then losing CJ. There has to be a reason the pitcher savvy Nolan Ryan did not really make much of a push. I trust he knows much more then I do about the team. The Rangers have a lot of young SP locked up for a while that have begun their climb up the ranks and I think Derek Holland will now be the ace and ultimatly be a legeit ace. In terms of Pujols, well that was a shocker but who cares. He is a great hitter but he is just one hitter. The Angels have now put a time window in place to when they can and will attempt to win it all. I much rather the Rangers approach which is patience and good savvy front office moves. While the Angels might appear to be a favorite, we should all know better then to count on this. Who picked Stl to win the Series and who ever thought Tx would play in consecutive Ws? Will they make a 3rd in a row? Maybe not but I like their chances much more then I have ever before.
He went from pitching in Texas to pitching in Anaheim with the best defensive OF in baseball. his stats might even get better for the next couple seasons
The Angels do not have the best defensive OF in baseball.
If its Hunter, Trout, and Bourjos.. who is better? Hell, Wells is not bad at all in LF
I’m a Jays fan btw and I’d have to disagree. Bourjos can fly. I mean it. I’ve seen this guy play several times last year and him alone in the outfield is worth two outfielders.
Peter Bourjos can fly.
I’m thinking his feet don’t touch the ground when he runs, so that’s a lot of kinetic energy NOT lost due to non-conservative forces assuming air-drag is negligible. (physics exam tomorrow).
When they made the movie “Angels in the Outfield” they had Bourjos in mind.
I would take Weaver,Haren, Wilson over any rotation in the Al by far. They are the favorite to win the Al with the signing of Pujols. Pujols Morales and Trumbo. You are looking at an incredible lineup. And an even better rotation.
I think they need to trade one of Trumbo/Morales
Lots of OFers on the roster. Need another good bullpen arm, maybe a 5 starter
I think they will get more for Trumbo than for Morales, even though Morales is a better hitter I’d say.
they might send Morales to triple A for a month, I seriously doubt they wanna trade either one of them.
they might send Morales to triple A for a month, I seriously doubt they wanna trade either one of them.
Solution: Trade Abreu for a back-end pitcher or bullpen help. Move Trumbo to 3rd, yes he will have his issues but they will work out. Let K-Mo DH.
best day in Angels free agent history
they arent handcuffing themselves at all, they just got that new TV deal with fox for 3Billion $$$$, gotta spend money to make money!!!!