Cornelius Alexander "Connie" Mack was born on this day in 1862. After an 11-year playing career, Mack went on to become the manager and co-owner of the Philadelphia Athletics in 1901 and was a fixture in the A's dugout for the next half-century. Between his 50 years with the A's (and three years managing the Pirates from 1894-96), Mack won five World Series titles and compiled a 3731-3948 record. Needless to say, Mack's records for managerial wins and losses will never be broken.
Some news from around the majors…
- The Indians made "an aggressive" two-year contract offer to Carlos Beltran worth "very close" to the $26MM Beltran received from the Cardinals, a source tells Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
- The Braves have been rather quiet this offseason but "the fact is we like our team," GM Frank Wren tells David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "We continue to have some conversations,” Wren said. “We’d have liked to have gotten something done in November in some areas, but just weren’t the matches….We’re continuing to work different options. This was not a good free-agent year, not a lot of players that impacted teams, especially in the areas we would like to get better in.” Wren said the Braves may wait to see how their players perform during Spring Training before deciding if they need to bring in some new acquisitions.
- The Padres still have around $7-$9MM to spend this winter, observes Bill Center of the San Diego Union-Tribune as part of his weekly chat with fans.
- Center also discusses Anthony Rizzo trade rumors, citing the Rays and Cubs as the most interested parties. Center thinks teams who miss out on Prince Fielder (such as possibly the Mariners and Orioles) could look at Rizzo as well.
- The Reds will use Sean Marshall as a setup man, not as a closer, once their deal with the Cubs is finalized, writes John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer. Fay also wonders if the Reds are working out a contract extension with Marshall, as the price of Travis Wood plus two prospects seems high for a reliever who is only under control through 2012.
- The Mariners are still interested in Jeff Francis, reports Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter). Seattle wants a veteran like Francis for the rotation to serve as a bridge for the team's young pitchers. We heard about the Mariners' interest in Francis earlier this month, and the Twins, Pirates, Cubs and Rockies have also been linked to the Canadian left-hander.
- Patrick Ebert of Perfect Game runs down the 10 biggest stories that emerged from this year's amateur draft.
- Former Marlins manager Edwin Rodriguez told Todd Hollandsworth and Jim Memolo of MLB Network Radio (as reported by MLB.com's Joe Frisaro) that he didn't agree with Miami's signing of Jose Reyes. "You already have an All-Star shortstop, why spend money on another All-Star shortstop?" Rodriguez asked. "Why not put the money into another player, like Albert Pujols or a front-line pitcher?” Rodriguez also wondered how "a very proud player" like Hanley Ramirez would handle switching positions and having Reyes be the center of media attention in Miami.
- The Giants haven't spent much to address their lack of hitting this winter, writes Fangraphs' Wendy Thurm.
Rizzo to the Rays is very intriguing, but the Pads and Rays don’t match up well at all. Both need middle infield help and have a ton of pitching. Maybe a 3-way trade? In-Friedman-I-Trust!!!!
Sean Rod is a fine stop gap and Lee is the future. If they want to try trading young prospects for each other, I might be ok with Beckham for Rizzo. HOWEVER, WD40 would be a stud in the huge Petco, with a much smaller chance of HR’s, he would be a lot better, he would just need less walks.
I would be perfectly fine trading Beckham for Rizzo. Lee seems much better. The more power, the better
And thats the biggest problem with Davis. The same reason I am personally leery of Volquez, walks in PETCO is how a pitcher can get in the most trouble since you are reduced to playing small ball.
might be ok with beckham for rizzo…laughable
Padres say no to that without hesitation.
for sure
I think the only way the Cubs get Rizzo is for Garza
Would not shock me at all to see Epstein try and find a way to get him back, only don’t forget that Hoyer is just as familiar with him from Boston also and is not going to let him go cheaply.
Cubs farm system is so wretched (not trying to knock them) it will be very hard for Epstein to get him regardless.
padres have no need for Garza. They are rebuilding. Why do you think they traded Latos?
Hoyer is in CHI with Epstein.
Byrnes.. Boston front office personnel are all over the league running places or high up.. Hard to remember which one is where now 😉
Umm….isn’t Hoyer the GM for the Cubs now? Last I checked Ep and Hoyer are on the same team now…haha.
Byrnes shot that rumor down. Padres wont want Garza. Three way deal?
It might be very interesting to you Braves, Royals or Red Sox fans that there was a tweet from Royals Review that said that the three teams are discussing a trade that would result in…
Royals get-Jair Jurrjens
Red Sox get-Joakim Soria
Braves get-Lorenzo Cain, Marco Scutaro, others (I’m assuming the + sign in the tweet means the Braves would get more players not named yet)
What do you all think?
Really Wendy? Brilliant deduction!
Did you even read her article? She’s actually one of the better writers that FanGraphs has, and her breakdown of the Giants’ payroll was excellent. It was sort of a misleading way that Mark linked to the article however.
Very good article, well worth the read for Giants fans. Outlines the Giants “try to win by doing as little as humanly possible” strategy very well. Bad contracts still haunting the club and dumping a boatload of cash on two aging lefty relievers … just not smart.
Yes I read it….and as a Giants fan, there wasn’t one thing in there that I didn’t already know.
“a very proud player” like Hanley Ramirez…lmao that the same hanley who got benched for a lack of hustle this year right?!!!
Was he benched by Jack McKeon? I know he was by Fredi Gonzalez.
On his first day as manager I think.
So we want Francis because he’s older and sucks? What’s wrong with a little Furbush until Paxton and Hultzen arrive? If we have to sign an old crappy pitcher, why not Moyer?
Always. The best way to bridge to your upcoming talent is to block it with free agents with no upside, while minimizing your maximum offer to Prince Fielder.
Thanks, I knew there had to be a good reason.
It would be the Bedard strategy that Seattle has used to great advantage in the last two years. Francis has a good chance of putting up great numbers in Safeco with the Mariners defense behind him. Then they trade him at mid-season to a contender for prospects.
Rays Get: Anthony Rizzo, Luke Gregerson
Padres Get: Wilmer Flores, Wade Davis
Mets Get: Tim Beckham and Nick Barnese
Thoughts? Opinions? Insults?
sounds alright to me, not sure why the Rays want to trade Wade Davis but whatever
Surplus of pitching and they need a 1B/DH with power
isn’t Wade Davis supposed to be one of the better ones though?
Davis is seen by most scouts as a back of the rotation type, with a peak as a mid rotation starter. So no, Prices/Shields/Moore/Cobb/Archer all are or projected to be better.
NO. That deal is not going to fly. The Padres need someone that is going to stick at SS. If they are giving up Rizzo and Gregerson then they have to get back a legit SS prospect. Flores isn’t that, nice bat and all but almost all scouts agree that he is moving off SS. And again, Davis makes little to no sense for the Padres unless the front office truly believes he is a lot more then he has thus far shown.
A big problem for Wade Davis is the HR ball, the annoying one, wall scrapers usually. In Petco, those are fly outs. I think he becomes a strong 2/3 in Petco. I really do. It’s actually a bad trade for the Rays if we didn’t have 8 MLB ready SP’s with Archer knocking on the door to be #9.
And to be honest that might be a fair assessment of Davis, but still not of the Padres needs. The Padres are much like the Rays in pitching depth (no not to the same level) but lack offense. That the point. Davis is a nice piece, but for the Padres they have in house options that are cheaper and could do the same job. On the other hand they lack utterly so a SS in the system that can remotely be called a long term player at the position.
Peterson has a chance but is 2-3 years away minimum. It will be difficult for the Padres to get a stud SS. They may have to settle for a decent one and hope Blanks and Alonso can be solid middle of the order bats.
I think the Padres should go all in with the O’s or Rangers for Manny Machado or Jurickson Profar. Rizzo and Headley could both be used and Venable, Bartlett, and Hudson could be had if anyone has interest. Or it would be cool if they could somehow get Adam Jones from the O’s
Yeah, Padres have a much better shot at Hak Ju Lee than those 2 and Friedman wont be trading him. Machado and Profar are untouchables. Especially Machado, he’s the next teir after Harper, Moore and Trout.
I dont really like Hak Ju. He hit for average pretty well last year but thats really it and he was in like A-ball most of the year. I dont see him much better than like Drew Cumberland, assuming he can pick up where he left off after that crazy injury. Rizzo for Lee straight up is a loss for the padres. I wouldnt do it
I disagree. I’d love to see Rizzo for Lee. He doesn’t just hit for average. He’s a premium defender at a premium position and he has plus speed. I’d swap those two in a heartbeat.
dont be racist against chinese and japanese people! jack hu lee is a good player
He’s also Korean.
teams dont trade 5 tool shortstops for first basemen prospect.
Machado isn’t going anywhere. You can make a play for Profar in hopes that TEX will agree long-term with Andrus.
given ALL rays fans say hak ju lee is untouchable, they should probably stop making trade proposals for rizzo.
Sounds terrible for the Padres.
Gregerson could be their closer…and they trade that and one of their top position prospects for Wade Davis and Flores? They could get a lot more for Rizzo from CHC.
MSG TO MARK POLISHUK: I’d like to suggest a re-word of your summary about the Bave O’Brien article. In that article, DOB quotes Frank Wren as saying:
“The fact is we like our team,” said Wren, who said the Braves might be
better off going to spring training and seeing how some of their own
players do before addressing their priority needs and seeing who might
become available to fill them.
Your summary seems to be missing the word “may”, which kinda conveys a different meaning…. as in “Wren said the Braves [may] wait to see how their players perform during Spring Training…”
That’s all – as you were.
the marlins went after Pujols and C.j. wilson, they offered more money so edwin looks a little crazy there
Well Edwin, the Marlins *had* an All-Star shortstop, before he decided to waste the past two seasons kicking balls, playing badly, injuring himself on stupid plays, and badmouthing his manager. If the only thing the Reyes signing accomplishes is putting Hanley in his place, that would be good enough for me. But Reyes at this point is a huge improvement over Hanley. We’ll just have to see if Hanley will be a huge improvement at 3B.
Wade Davis for Rizzo or Brett Jackson and couple young arms far away for Rizzo. Would be a great haul. Pads could be pretty good eventually for awhile if their pitching progresses.
They’re not giving up their top position prospect (Jackson) for Rizzo. They wouldn’t make sense in rebuilding.
I’m not familiar with Jackson, but are you saying Rizzo is not a top position prospect that will not help a team with rebuilding as well??
Wasn’t Wren talking like this (we’re not really looking to do anything now) right before he made the deal for Uggla? I think he enjoys pulling surprises.
The padres/rays/mariners should do a three team trade that sends Michael Pineda and Justin smoak to Tampa and padres and padres send chase Headly and rizzo to m’s and rays and rays send Friedmann and B.J. upton to Mariners and Padres.
I’m not trying to be rude, but I can’t figure out what your proposal is. Who would get who? I’m assuming it is a joke as Friedman is involved.
Actually Connie Mack was born “Cornelius McGillicuddy”
Teams that miss out on Fielder might turn to Rizzo?
are you kidding me…have you seen Rizzo try to hit at the MLB level?
and this is coming from a Padres fan
He has a good approach at the plate and lots of power. He will be fine. Need more than 100 or so ML at bats, he will make the adjustments as he is very competitive and doesn’t give up.
the thing about prospects/suspects (even the good ones)…is that you just never know how they will perform in the bigs
because of his slow start – I don’t see the trade value there – and if he does pan out – then they will be selling Rizzo too low
would edgar renteria make a good fit with the padres
Shut up, Edwin