The Tigers have officially agreed to acquire David Price from the Rays, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal is a three-way trade between the Tigers, Rays, and Mariners.
Tigers center fielder Austin Jackson will go to the Mariners, with Nick Franklin (from Seattle) and Drew Smyly (from Detroit) heading to Tampa in the blockbuster. Minor league shortstop Willy Adames is also going to Tampa from Detroit in the deal, per a tweet from Rosenthal.
The move brings and end to near-ceaseless speculation regarding the now-former Rays lefty, who has been one of the game’s best pitchers in recent seasons. Still only 28, Price is under control for one more season through arbitration, though he will certainly not come cheap.
Playing this year on a $14MM salary, Price will be in line for a big raise next year. Of course, one key element of his value lies in the fact that his new club will have an opportunity to explore an extension. The reason that Price figures to draw a big salary next year is obvious: he has continued to be outstanding. At present, he owns a 3.11 ERA with a remarkable 10.0 K/9 against just 1.2 BB/9 over 170 2/3 innings.
The return for the Rays is not particularly splashy, but delivers obvious value. Smyly, 25, was outstanding last year as a reliever and has since converted into a solid starting option. He carries a 3.77 ERA through 100 1/3 innings, with 7.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 and a 36.9% groundball rate. While his strikeout numbers are down since moving to the rotation, he can be controlled through 2018.
The 23-year-old Franklin, meanwhile, seemed without a future in Seattle after the club added Robinson Cano. Though he has spent time at both short and second, many observers believe he is better suited for the keystone going forward. He had a solid 2013 at the MLB level (.225/.303/.382 in 412 plate appearances), and though his numbers were off this year in limited action, Franklin has continued to swing a big stick against Triple-A pitchers.
Then, there is Adames, who could be something of a wild card in the deal. Just 18, he has a promising .269/.346/.428 slash line through 400 plate appearances at the low-A level this year. He entered the year as Baseball America’s 30th-ranked Tigers prospect, but appears to be raising eyebrows around the game.
That brings us to Seattle, which quietly managed to address its center field need without giving up an indispensable piece of the future. In fact, the 27-year-old Jackson will be at least a mid-term piece for Seattle. He is playing on a $6MM salary this year before hitting arbitration for the final time. He currently sports a .270/.330/.397 line that is approximately league average (as it was last year). With solid contributions in the field and on the bases, he is certainly an above-average big league regular.
Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first reported that Jackson and Smyly were part of the deal (via Twitter). Mike Salk of 710 ESPN tweeted that Jackson would head to Seattle. Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune first reported Franklin’s inclusion (via Twitter).
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
ihwfvp
scherzer going somewhere?
Hoosierdaddy92
he’s a free agent after this season, so no way.
James25B
yea cus that stopped Lester from being delt
redmeansgo82
The Tigers aren’t in last place.
Hoosierdaddy92
big difference. Why trade for Price just to lose Scherzer? That’s not really an upgrade for this season which the Tigers are actually going for (The Red Sox are future planning).
GenerationInk
Price has 1 more year of control, and a year’s worth of time to extend him for $$$ Scherzer turned down. Tigers get comp pick for Schezer when he walks. It’s a huge upgrade this season because they both get to pitch in the same rotation.
Eric Murray
How does adding price to a rotation of Verlander, Scherzer, Sanchez, Porcello not improve them for this year exactly?
$114759666
Because one of those guys will not be in the rotation come October and yet they still won’t have a guy in the BP that can get lefties out.
Hoosierdaddy92
I was referring to the above post that i thought was suggesting they were trading Scherzer to get Price. Out of context
jdogg13
To Disney World, now, apparently.
Bounded
Why would they Trade Scherzer, they are making a World Series push & it would be stupid to trade their best pitcher
amoreperfectunion
No… sadface. Wish he could have stayed with the Rays. Kind of hoping this falls through…
Spencer James
This website is about to explode.
Alex K.
Disappointing, as a Tiger fan. Tigers hopefully get a bullpen arm back as well. Price is also horrible in the postseason. Why not go after Lester? Ah, well. Go Tigers!
Spencer James
Yes, but this time around he’ll have an offense that can score with the best of them.
Kevin 23
What did Lester do that offense last year?
Zack B
seriously, complaining over this?
StantonLikeMyDaddy
You’re unbelievable. If these reports are true, you pretty much just PILFERED a top 5 starting pitcher in the game.
DG
Price is the best lefty in the AL right now. I’ll take him over Lester. Plus, he’s under contract for 2015, and Lester is a free agent at the end of the season. I’m a Rays fan and deeply disappointed that this is all the Rays managed to get back for Price.
Alex K.
Forgot about that fact. Man, that A’s trade really was awful… the Tigers are still gonna miss not having Smyly in the pen in the post season. I mean, at least they have Porcello.
Priggs89
Chris Sale says hello
wallywhack
Wow. You’ve acquired an arm that is arguably better than both Verlander and Scherzer and you’re upset about not going after Lester, who is most certainly the lesser of the three?
CharlieMurphy
Most certainly the lesser of the three? I’m assuming you aren’t talking about this season. Even then, Lester has been just as dominant in the postseason if not better.
letsgogiants
No kidding, I’ve had the site crash on me about five times already.
AZDbacksfan1
This site is getting refreshed so much because of these types of trades that it’s breaking my computer. I love it.
MeowMeow
That Tigers/A’s ALCS is gonna be a lot of fun to watch
Ross G.
season aint even close to being over yet bud.
MeowMeow
The implication is that it basically is now 😛
Nicolas_C
Don’t sleep on those Angels
Ross G.
^^
MB923
All I see is a blank avatar 🙂
I Believe We Can Win
The angels who didn’t beef up the rotation? Just added street? Yeah I’m sure the Lester shark gray rotation and the scherzer verlander price rotation is something the angels can match…..
MikeTroutForMayor
Mike Trout
MiggyCabby24
Mike Trout strikes out too much. Great player, but he’s ESPN’s hype machine now. As long as you don’t pitch him down in the zone, you can get him out. He can’t handle pitches up. Classic low-ball hitter.
Rally Weimaraner
Mike Trout will pitch every post-season game 😉
Brodan
Its like you are implying the Angels won’t just outscore them 10-9
I Believe We Can Win
You seriously think you’re scoring 10 runs if all those guys go 7+? I’ve got better odds winning the lotto.
Brodan
It’s like you are implying I was being serious
Brodan
Its like you are implying the Angels won’t just outscore them 10-9
Eric Murray
Don’t need to match those rotations if,you have the lineup,to,kill those rotations….which the angels do
MiggyCabby24
Angels better hope they don’t play the O’s. They match up well with them.Won 4 out of the last 5.
Metsfan93
I’m more afraid of Sanchez and Porcello than Verlander at this point.
MiggyCabby24
Now you have Price to worry about, along with Scherzer.
Aron
The Jays are still kickin around somewhere too, we did sweep those A’s in a 4 game series and the Tigers right after. Granted it was before they got Shark and now Lester and Price but our offense, if clicking, is the best in the Majors. Especially with the trade deadline “acquisitions” of Edwin Encarnacion, Brett Lawrie and righty masher Adam Lind we should be fine. If Stroman can keep up his performance and our bull pen stays how its been during the second half of the year we’ll be in pretty much every game.
Aron
The Jays are still kickin around somewhere too, we did sweep those A’s in a 4 game series and the Tigers right after. Granted it was before they got Shark and now Lester and Price but our offense, if clicking, is the best in the Majors. Especially with the trade deadline “acquisitions” of Edwin Encarnacion, Brett Lawrie and righty masher Adam Lind we should be fine. If Stroman can keep up his performance and our bull pen stays how its been during the second half of the year we’ll be in pretty much every game.
BK
Tigers havent shown they can beat the Angels, not sure how they are gonna meet the A’s.
MeowMeow
Tigers have beat the A’s in each of the last two ALDS’s………
alphabet_soup5
Ask the A’s if they think they can beat Justin Verlander.
Metsfan93
My assumption is that assuming whoever wins the AL West is the best record in MLB, A’s/Angels would meet in the ALDS, no? And the Tigers would have the easy road: AL East winner.
Aircool
Don’t just assume that the Angels win the wild card game… its a one game playoff their pitcher could get shelled…
padresfan33
Aircool is right. Plus if the Mariners are the other wild card team, the Angels will have to play a one game playoff against Felix Hernandez.
MiggyCabby24
And that’s not a very good proposition at all.
Muhamed Mashkulli
What a crazy day
javywoz
Gotta be a 3rd team too, this last 10 min will be very interesting…
Ned L
Lester Vs Price in game 1 of the playoffs………….For Detroit and Oakland?
Kevin 23
Scherzer starts game 1 no doubt
Aron
Id go with Price
Metsfan93
Price might be marginally better, but Scherzer’s extended tenure on the Tigers will mean he’ll start, I think.
MiggyCabby24
Extended? Scherzer is gone after this season.
Aircool
by extended tenure he means the fact that he has been a Detroit Tiger for longer than a couple hours… But IMO that shouldn’t matter… best pitcher pitches Game 1 and then comes back for Game 4/5
Aircool
by extended tenure he means the fact that he has been a Detroit Tiger for longer than a couple hours… But IMO that shouldn’t matter… best pitcher pitches Game 1 and then comes back for Game 4/5
Aron
Yeah definitely a good chance he does, for the reasons you stated but I’d always want my best pitcher going first, to throw as many meaningful innings as he can
Aron
Id go with Price
Aron
Id go with Price
Bravesfan22
Wow
jljr222
“Oh” – A’s Fans
Spencer James
Tigers’ GM: “I see your move, Billy Beane. I’ll call and raise you by this Price.”
letsgogiants
Verlander expressed worry to GM Dobrowski after realizing that acquiring Lester too was for the Tigers.
TWWxKeys
Called this before the Tigers were even in talks
letsgogiants
If the Tigers-A’s do match up in the playoffs, it’s gonna be one heck of a series.
Allismileo
Wow! I was hoping the Pirates, but OK. I wonder how much the Rays got?
Ned L
Best trade day in a very long time.
Tko11
Its like Christmas!!
CHendershott
Please God no.
Seamaholic
Hmm … So Smyly from the Tigers. Who else do they have to sell, either to Rays or another team? Interesting. If JV is his usual playoff self, I dunno how you beat that team.
DarthMurph
Who goes against Oakland in Game 5 of the ALDS?
Jorge Correa
Given the standings I doubt we’ll see another DET-OAK ALDS. My money’s on OAK-LAA and DET-BAL in the ALDS.
Mark Eisner
Jered Weaver
mlbaustin
I don’t think the A’s will play the Tigers in ALDS. Doesn’t the wild card winner play the team with the best record? More thank likely, the best record will come out of the West, and the Tigers win the division. So the only way they play is in the ALCS.
rizdak
Someone on short rest
Chris Vinnit
Smyly is a hard trade chip to beat. If Taillon hadn’t gotten TJ and pitched 5-6 starts this season, the Bucs could’ve been in on it but right now they are more offering hopes and dreams than ready for MLB guys.
Andrew Collins
Various reports are Price to Detroit, sounds like Zobrist going to Pirates, Rays getting Marte and prospects.
GameMusic3
That is a bad deal for the Pirates
Andrew Collins
Austin Jackson and Drew Smyly going to the Mariners, Nick Franklin heading to Tampa
OppoPower
Just make something else up.
Andrew Collins
dont hold your breathe
oaklandfan22
Lets go Oakland!!!
troy
YAY! Now we wait for the damage.
Karl Larson
I thought they didn’t have a farm system…
GrayhawkAZ
Three team deal
dc21892
Awesome trade deadline.
BobMarley22
Anybody remember last years trade deadline and the big player that moved was Drew Butera? Good times
EightMileCats
I didn’t think we had enough pieces to make this happen
CHendershott
Dombrowski is pulling Austin Jackson from the White Sox game now!!
Jim Smith
7th inning, mid-inning and R. Davis replaced him in CF. AJax appears to be headed out of town
CHendershott
Yup. Going to the Mariners?
Jim Smith
appears to be, depending on who ends up where
CHendershott
Guess is prospects/Smyly to Rays, Jackson to M’s, Price to Tigers. Depending on the prospects, Smyly to Mariners?
Jim Smith
AJax is the money guy so it makes sense that he would go to Seattle because it appears the Rays are shedding payroll. Smyly does appear to be the other piece, he probably goes back to Tampa. Also they just said Dombrowski came down from upstairs to notify Ausmus to pull AJax.
DarthMurph
This essentially takes the Tigers out of the Scherzer sweepstakes. Probably for the best. Boras can’t be happy.
Pei Kang
Wow, I did not see that coming! okay, I was totally wrong, one of the best trade deadlines I can remember. so much action….and there’s still the waiver-wire deadline to boot.
vtncsc
ONLY Nick Franklin?
letsgogiants
There has to be more. Heck, the Mariners look like they have a better return thus far.
MadThespian
Right? A decent bat without giving up any of the young pitching. I like this deal. Might be too little too late though.
mlbaustin
That’s all the Rays got for Price? That seems weak.
vtncsc
Seriously, Atlanta should have made a play for Price if that’s all it took.
Tony Gonsalez 2
If only the NBA and NFL trade deadlines were this exciting, just love reading all the rumors leading up to the deadline and trades that happen out of nowhere.
lonechicken
Yeah, seriously. It’s all about players in baseball trades. In the NBA you’d think the teams only cared about expiring contracts, mid-level exceptions, Bird exceptions, and sign-and-trades.
SouthsideChicagoFan
So the White Sox do nothing, don’t get rid of dead weight, don’t pick up any body and now the best pitcher in baseball goes to their rival despite the Tigers having a worse farm system than the Sox. White Sox might as well go all in on a full rebuild and trade Sale, Quintana, Abreu et al in the offseason and just try to restock. They are going to be bad for a long time.
Evan
Kershaw didn’t go to their rivals.
SouthsideChicagoFan
Hyperbole my man, LOL. I’m just REALLY PO’d at the Sox right now.
Evan
it will be ok man. Price is like the 8th best lol. So no worries then.
Evan
it will be ok man. Price is like the 8th best lol. So no worries then.
Tigers94
the Tigers traded MLB players, something the White Sox have like 4 of
Nicolas_C
There have to be prospects heading to Tampa, don’t worry
barry2
Surprise, surprise good for DD. No teasing Tigers about the farm system going forward.
Ross G.
wow Smyly just pitched in today’s game!
calamityfrancis
What a terrible get for the Rays.
Rally Weimaraner
DD must have some serious dirt on Friedman, he just got robbed!
Liberalism is a Mental Disease
Smyly and Jackson are a part of this deal for Price.
Mac Mckinnon
Austin Jackson just pulled from game.
Van Hunsberger
austin jasckson just left the game for the tigers. must be part of the trade 🙁
redmeansgo82
Ummm…. Rays just got robbed for Price. Nick Franklin’s all they could bring in? I find this trade confounding considering what lesser pitchers are bringing in.
Alex Foltz
Smyly and Nick freakin Franklin to TB? That’s it!?
Kevin6CD
Smyly’s going to Seattle lol EDIT: Article updated, Smyly to TB of course.
Alex Foltz
Jon Heyman just reported Smyly to TB. No way Smyly would go to Seattle in this deal
Kevin6CD
Just going off of what was in the post, guy.
letsgogiants
That makes a little more sense. But I would have to think another piece would be going to Tampa to make more sense for trading a guy who arguably has been the face of the franchise.
vailb
a prospect ss
Spencer James
Mariners are the winners of this trade if there aren’t any prospects moving around.
Chris Vinnit
Wait, what? Smyly to Seattle, not Tampa? The centerpiece of the deal was a pop gun hitting SS? That can’t be right. If they took that deal, man, that’s terrible.
nate-6
nick franklin for david price… are you kidding me?!?
jesse heiman
Jackson and smyly
Frittoman626
If Smyly and Jackson are going to the Mariners Walker better be going to Tampa, not just Franklin.
Allismileo
I thought the Rays were good at making deal? Nick Franklin and Drew Smylyl?!?! Scott Shields was worth a lot more two years ago I guess…
Hodor
Scott’s cousin James Shields was worth a lot more too.
Allismileo
Haha! You are probably right. (Whoops)
Sean Grogan
How is this a good deal for the Rays? Did they acquire anyone other than Nick Franklin?
slasher016 2
There obviously has to be more to the deal.
Ace2095
There HAS to be more then Franklin going to TB, Walker? Paxton?
Eric Murray
I hope the rays got more than Nick Franklin lol
Alex Foltz
It’s gotta be
Price to Det
Jackson to Sea
Smyly and Franklin to TB
Even that is STILL a weak deal for Seattle and TB
Ray Ray 4
I think it is a great get for the Mariners in exchange for their odd man out. Jackson is a strong CF.
padresfan33
Mariners turn a guy who hasn’t proven he can play full time at the big league level into a big league regular. Not a great deal, but certainly not weak for Seattle
Tony Gonsalez 2
Will Verlander say that the Tigers made the trade because of the A’s after his comments on the Sumardzija trade?
Alex Foltz
exactly. They reacted to what Oakland was doing.
Christopher Giles
I’d say they made the trade because it was an absolute steal. I don’t care what any other team is doing, if I’m a GM and that offer is on the table I take it 100% of the time.
Yankees420
Seriously. I am in awe that this is all Friedman got for Price (even with the SS prospect). Even as a Yankee fan, I hope the Rays get more than this for their ace. Maybe somehow there are still details that are unreported? Though I doubt it with MLBTR’s writers,
Seamaholic
Someone else is going from Sea to TB. Has to be.
Nicholas Adams
Settle down folks… when news is reported before the story is complete, expect to get incomplete information.
Ace2095
Zobrist to Pirates so apparently they get Pirates prospects?
Puig Power
Has to be more. Dodgers could beat this
Alex Foltz
Dodgers COULD, but wouldn’t. They didn’t wanna let go of their prospects
Kolukonu
The Rays only got Nick Franklin in the deal? Wow.
slasher016 2
Smyly too.
amoreperfectunion
Uhh even Franklin + Smyly seems selling low on Price.
slasher016 2
Agreed, feel like there is more coming.
Kolukonu
Ah, when I first saw the post it had Jackson and Smyly going to Seattle.
DieHardMsFan
Wow….we are trading Franklin for Jackson/Smyly….if that is all we are giving up lol…has to be more just has to be…
vtncsc
You get Jackson. Rays get Franklin/Smyly
DieHardMsFan
Yeah I saw that. Makes more sense now. Guess was an error by MLBTR….
DieHardMsFan
Yeah I saw that. Makes more sense now. Guess was an error by MLBTR….
vtncsc
Still seems weak.
OhioSox 2
There has to be more to this deal than Smyly and Franklin.
DippityDoo
Wow, today is nuts.
sascoach2003
Watching the White Sox game and Jackson was just replaced mid-inning by Davis…he’s going somewhere
Hock13
There has to be more to this….
GrayhawkAZ
For the Rays it better be more than Smyly and Franklin coming to them…
nate-6
smyly and franklin is better but their still better be more than that… we got myers for shields
Trock
That is what I was thinking after reading who was involved. Price is under contract for another year and a far superior pitcher then Shields. There has got to be more involved then this.
attgig
huge trading deadline…two aces moved in a day. both out of the AL east. crazy.
Yankeeboy11
It’s smyly and franklin to Tampa
benong88
If Tampa only gets Nick Franklin they should have just dealt Price to the Cardinals and got back Taveras and either Miller/Martinez. If thats all they’re getting Tampa should regret dangling Price this entire week and waiting until the last minute to settle for this kind of deal.
CHendershott
I’m guessing Smyly to Seattle and M’s send prospects to Tampa.
W.G
If Rays only get Smyly and Franklin… wow
Eric Murray
Cards could’ve beaten that by just giving up Oscar taveras and Shelby,Miller…
Trock
Shoot at this point I would of settled for the Rays only getting OT for Price. Sometimes you have to take the quality over quantity. I would much rather see OT on the Rays then Smyly and Franklin
Eric Murray
I’ve been following this all day….honestly can’t believe this was the best the rays were offered. Makes me think the taveras rumors were just rumors and MO never put,him on the table
Eric Murray
Kelly and Craig would’ve been a better return than this lol
Alex Foltz
They probably would have made that deal if Mozeliak had ever offered OT plus Miller/Martinez. All reports out of Cards camp have been that OT was never really on the table
benong88
You’re right. But it just seems like if Tampa had pushed for it they could have gotten much more out of St. Louis for Price than what Seattle is offering, even if Oscar Taveras is not involved. Especially since Mo has gone after Lackey and Masterson now.
benong88
You’re right. But it just seems like if Tampa had pushed for it they could have gotten much more out of St. Louis for Price than what Seattle is offering, even if Oscar Taveras is not involved. Especially since Mo has gone after Lackey and Masterson now.
benong88
You’re right. But it just seems like if Tampa had pushed for it they could have gotten much more out of St. Louis for Price than what Seattle is offering, even if Oscar Taveras is not involved. Especially since Mo has gone after Lackey and Masterson now.
Kingmojo101
Sherzer vs Lester
Price vs shark
Verlander vs gray
Sanchez vs kazmir
Porcello vs hammels/Chavez
And to think the winner if the ALCS will potentially go against kershaw,greinke,ryu,Beckett,
bigbadjohnny
#5 pitchers will be for long relief in a playoff series
Evan
You don’t have five pitchers going in the playoffs. You use three, maybe four. it would be lester shark grey kazmir.
MilkMeMore
Billy Beane is shaking his head right now…
Kingmojo101
Billy Beane said “here we go again”… (tosses chair in the hallway)
Rally Weimaraner
Tampa must have gotten more than Franklin and Smyly for Price.
orangeoctober
That’s it? Nick Franklin and Drew Smyly for this year and next year of Price?
Guest 3657
Walker looks to be going to Tampa too. Though the reactionary comments were hilarious.
thenewyorkfan05
he was just hungry lol!
thenewyorkfan05
he was just hungry lol!
tjhall23
Walker stays w/Mariners
baseballbeisbol
What a steal for Seattle then. Love the trade for them.
Guest 3656
possibly walker is included
tjhall23
Wrong
twigTOLLESON08
That’s all the Rays get for Price? Wow….
Guest 3655
No
Met Fan 4 Life
What an underwhelming return for someone like Price!
Met Fan 4 Life
That’s what happens when the Rays sign their players to long term team friendly contracts. It gets to the big money years and the Rays toss them away, even for a
lesser value. It’s the Rays ownership’s equivalent to an “eat and bolt”.
twigTOLLESON08
If Walker is going to Rays also it makes it better
jesse heiman
Watch Scherzer sign with Red Sox when Lester doesn’t come back and signs with Yankees or Dodgers in offseason
Jbruns318
I can’t believe this is all the Rays are getting.
Chris Vinnit
If Tijuan Walker posts are true, Walker + Smyly + Franklin for Price is actually a pretty decent haul.
javywoz
Yep, thats 3 ML’s for 1 with too many years of control for me to count out right now
tjhall23
Walker stays w/Mariners
Jbruns318
Just Smyly +Franklin, awful deal IMO.
slasher016 2
Wait for more details before overreacting…this came together quickly, doubtful this is all the pieces.
GrayhawkAZ
Need more than Walker also for Tampa….
Alex Foltz
not to mention, giving up Walker out of Seattle for Austin Jackson doesn’t really seem like a good deal for Seattle
Spencer VonHershman
…Why do people keep saying that there’s more going from Seattle to Tampa? Seattle isn’t paying for David Price, the Tigers are. Nick Franklin for Austin Jackson is pretty good straight across.
CHendershott
If Seattle also gets Smyly though….
Kevin6CD
They’re not. The post just wasn’t correct on first publish.
Kevin6CD
They’re not. The post just wasn’t correct on first publish.
CHendershott
If Seattle also gets Smyly though….
Spencer VonHershman
…Why do people keep saying that there’s more going from Seattle to Tampa? Seattle isn’t paying for David Price, the Tigers are. Nick Franklin for Austin Jackson is pretty good straight across.
Chris Turner
and stephen drew to the yankees!!!!…..kidding
letsgogiants
The real blockbuster of the trading deadline.
southerndodgerfan21
And the Dodgers get Darwin Barney. Maybe he secretly can take the mound for Haren and Beckett every 4th and 5th day. Ned’s is incompetent.
southerndodgerfan21
And the Dodgers get Darwin Barney. Maybe he secretly can take the mound for Haren and Beckett every 4th and 5th day. Ned’s is incompetent.
gnats
What a terrible return for the Rays.
gnats
What a terrible return for the Rays.
Robbieb7
There’s gotta be more to this. The rays and mariners would be losing BIG TIME
Todd Smith
Austin Jackson for Nick Franklin is alright to me. Rays need more than just Franklin and Smyly though.
Robbieb7
I thought they were also sending Walker to Tampa. I’ll just wait for more info.
Todd Smith
Austin Jackson for Nick Franklin is alright to me. Rays need more than just Franklin and Smyly though.
NimbusStev
Ugh, Detroit was the last place I wanted to see Price end up. Looks like the AL Central is officially theirs.
cgriffith
You had doubts?
NimbusStev
Well the Indians and Royals kind of dropped off recently, but for the first time in years the Tigers actually looked touchable.
cgriffith
You had doubts?
Jon 27
Did Zobrist get traded or not?
Seamaholic
I was gonna say … where does Franklin play?
Seamaholic
I was gonna say … where does Franklin play?
Danielle Rennifer
To the Pirates.
Jon 27
have seen no confirmation from anything other than in passing on ESPN
Kyle 16
What did the Pirates give up?
Hoosierdaddy92
Dave Dombrowski has done it again. Extends the Tigers’ championship window by an extra year and gives them the leverage they need to let Scherzer walk after this season if he can’t agree to their terms. Love it. Just wish we could have snagged a an effective lefty reliever in the deal as well.
Hoosierdaddy92
Dave Dombrowski has done it again. Extends the Tigers’ championship window by an extra year and gives them the leverage they need to let Scherzer walk after this season if he can’t agree to their terms. Love it. Just wish we could have snagged a an effective lefty reliever in the deal as well.
Alex Foltz
Sean Doolittle @whatwouldDOOdo 2m
*lowers sunglasses*
“They made that trade because of us”
*raises sunglasses*
Alex Foltz
Sean Doolittle @whatwouldDOOdo 2m
*lowers sunglasses*
“They made that trade because of us”
*raises sunglasses*
faceforest
Walker is going to Tampa.
Spencer VonHershman
… Why in the world would Seattle trade Walker and Franklin for Austin Jackson.
Jonathan Barlock
They are saying its just Franklin to Tampa. Whew!
Jonathan Barlock
They are saying its just Franklin to Tampa. Whew!
CHendershott
How would you feel if M’s also got Smyly? Only way this makes sense for them or the Rays. SO far Tigers win HUGE on this one.
Seamaholic
Confirmed? That would make it a fine deal for TB, highway robbery for the Tigers. M’s get completely hosed.
Danielle Rennifer
Hope the Mariners also receive Ian Krol if not mentioned yet as a fifth starter.
Danielle Rennifer
Hope the Mariners also receive Ian Krol if not mentioned yet as a fifth starter.
Jon 27
Per Jon Heyman “mariners got austin jackson and send franklin to tampa. thats all of seattle’s involvement.”
Gumby65
Heyman squashed walker part
yawn
thats it? That seems kinda minor.
thenewyorkfan05
no walker. thars crazy rays were jipped
thenewyorkfan05
no walker. thars crazy rays were jipped
MeowMeow
Feels like Tampa is also getting a pretty low return (unless there are more prospects heading Tampa’s way?). People just aren’t paying for pitchers today o.O
JacobyWanKenobi
There’s probably more headed to tampa. There’s gotta be right?
Jesus Gutierrez
nothing from Seattle confirmed
Danielle Rennifer
Is there a minor leaguer heading to Seattle too?
MeowMeow
If not this is a huge lose for Tampa, when they could still have gone after a WC spot and go after another trade in the winter
bobbleheadguru
Smyly is a lefty and has accomplished more at his age than many top prospects. People seem to overvalue prospects and undervalue young players that already are playing in the major leagues.
MeowMeow
Tampa should have just gotten MORE. Like, in addition to Franklin and Smyly.
yewed
agree. seems like could have gotten more this offseason, even it was
for only a year of price.
MeowMeow
Feels like Tampa is also getting a pretty low return (unless there are more prospects heading Tampa’s way?). People just aren’t paying for pitchers today o.O
TheBigNice
Hayman is saying no Walker.
TheBigNice
Per MLB network
TheBigNice
Hayman is saying no Walker.
Alex Foltz
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1m
mariners got austin jackson and send franklin to tampa. thats all of seattle’s involvement.
d-blaqueqq
Oh, rays…
DieHardMsFan
No Walker ? Sweet!!!!!! Hope Walker/Paxton get healthy and regain some value so we can acquire another bat in the offseason
Alex Foltz
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1m
mariners got austin jackson and send franklin to tampa. thats all of seattle’s involvement.
bobbleheadguru
So Verlander is in the bullpen then? OK that will fix the bullpen issue (think 2012 Lincecum)
Jon 27
Their needs to be like 5PTBNLs in this trade
Raylan Givens' Stetson
Everybody wins! Oh wait, I forgot about the Rays, they don’t win at all.
Bryce Gonzalez
Is this the whole trade? Please tell me this is a joke
slasher016 2
There’s probably one more piece going from Detroit to Tampa.
baseballbeisbol
I’d have to think that is assuredly going to happen.
Chris Vinnit
Except Detroit doesn’t have any attractive pitching prospects except Smyly. Man, if Walker isn’t involved and the Rays don’t get one more high end prospect, they got really hosed.
James X.
I don’t see how Walker would be involved with the M’s only getting Austin Jackson in return.
Danielle Rennifer
Also to Seattle w/ Jackson.
AdamAE24
Thats it? Tampa turned down Addison Russell and settled for Smyly and Nick Franklin?
philpbarnes
If this is the whole trade… what on earth are the Rays doing?!
PhilliesPhan4102
They got a potential ace and a young second basemen who could break out.
Danny Phillips
In no way is Smyly a potential ace.
PhilliesPhan4102
Looking at his stats now, the Rays gave Price away.
$3513744
they are trying to make up for the shields trade
Christopher Hoffa
there’s no way nobody topped that offer for Price….how in the world did he just get traded for freaking Nick Franklin & Drew Smyly
Ace2095
Seattle got a pretty good deal on Jackson, only having to give up Franklin.
McNasty
A steal!!!
Ace2095
9 to be exact.
McNasty
HA, I see what you did there.
Seamaholic
Holy Moly. Major fail in Tampa unless there’s something missing. No minor leaguers in this whole deal? That doesn’t sound right.
W.G
So far:
Rays get: Nick Franklin and Drew Smyly
Tigers get: David Price
Mariners get: Austin Jackson
cgriffith
1a. Max Sherzer 2013 Cy Young Winner
1b. David Price 2012 Cy Young Winner
3. Anibal Sanchez
4. Justin Verlander
Playoffs – Porcello to the bullpen with is great sinker
Ace2095
Verlander 2011 Cy Young, they have the last 3 CY Young winners.
Light_tower_power
Who cares…Verlander is on the decline
Ace2095
You never know, he could heat up down the stretch and the rest could be history. Just look at Lester last year. Had a bad run of starts and then managed to heat up when it mattered most which is what the best players are able to do
Kirk Edward Gerwin
Verlander did the same thing last year. Was pretty bad most of the season and then torched the A’s during the post season…..again
Ace2095
I think Verlander could very well heat up when it matters most because he seem to do the best when he’s under pressure and it’s fun to watch 🙂
TheBigNice
Rays must really love Smyly
Chris Turner
tampa fans are going to be frowny
Ace2095
Is Jackson the only one who left the tigers game?
TheBigNice
Yes, but trade went down after Smyly was already out of the game
Ace2095
So the remaining players if there are any are probably prospects, which is what I was checking for.
cgriffith
Smyly was traded to he pitched today
Joseph Kraus
I’m getting sick……..
bighiggy
Thats all tampa got? Cards could have offered way more
BitLocker
Pretty underwhelming trade for David Price. I would have thought TB would have gotten more.
Joseph Kraus
If this holds out, me and the other 40 fans down here in St Pete are gonna RIOT!!!
bigbadjohnny
Lots of cane waving and wheel chairs tying up traffic around the stadium ?
Joseph Kraus
More worried about the thug that’s gonna rob me coming out….
Todd Smith
I think a lot of fans of other teams will riot too, I feel like most teams could have beat a Smyly/Franklin deal for Price.
Todd Smith
I think a lot of fans of other teams will riot too, I feel like most teams could have beat a Smyly/Franklin deal for Price.
ZeelandCap
That’s all Rays got?! dang
TRAPstar
Nick Franklin + Drew Smyly? That’s it? Wow…
Jon 27
Per Dan Zymbroski “There’s Zobrist talk, but from the people I’m on the phone with the last couple minutes, nobody’s actually sure if it’s real.”
SheaGoodbye
Detroit has to be sending some good prospects along with smyly to the Rays…right? This cannot be all there is to this deal.
Jon 27
Yankees got Martin Prado
bigbadjohnny
sounds like Rays gave away Price.
halflink123
This is a pretty nice deal for everyone involved, especially I would say Tampa as they get a nice SS and starter for Price who was a great pitcher but never quite elite elite and plus was horrible in the playoffs historically
Alex Foltz
David Price, not Carey Price. We are talking baseball.
timmytwostep
This is a terrible deal for Tampa, so much so everyone thinks something is missing.
halflink123
I dont see why tho, Smyly has a chance to be almost as good as Price in fact if going by WAR Price has been pretty overrated except for 1 year.
Yankees420
Looking exclusively at one stat is rather erroneous, especially when there’s been disputes over how well WAR really judges a pitcher’s value.
Also if you used bWAR it shows Price’s career as a roller coaster (which I believe is b/c they use ERA+, but I’m not quite sure) whereas fWAR has Price as a consistent 4-5 win pitcher every year since 2010.
Look at his other stats – In ’11 and ’12 his K/BB rates were nearly identical – 3.46 to 3.47. In ’13 he learned to walk significantly less batters, which caused a slight drop in his K/9, but his K/BB skyrocketed to 5.59. This year it’s sitting at 8.22 because he’s maintained his control (BB/9 of 1.21) but increased his K/9 from 7.2 to 9.9. The guy is a stud and is truly learning how to pitch rather than always relying on his “stuff.”
Smyly has a long way to go before he “has the chance to be almost as good as Price.” Assuming we’re talking about Smyly staying as a SP – I agree his RP numbers are impressive.
halflink123
Yes good points. However (and I agree that the Rays shoulve gotten more for Price), Price has never had a season where he beat Cliff Lee’s best seson(s). Cliff Lee has 2 years left on his deal @ $25M and yet I feel that the trade market would value the 2 very very differently
halflink123
keep in mind also the Rays are definitely in the running this year and this helps them NOW AND in the future, as they can slot Franklin and Smyly right into their club without having to wait. Yea overall I like this deal though I agree they wouldve gotten more had the players been farther away from the majors
yawn
lol no.
halflink123
I’m simply saying that of all the deals done today this one makes the most sense to me…the rays basically replace Price and get a SS to boot. Sure wouldve been nice if they got a Catcher but at least they didnt get ripped off like Boston with a rent a player. The Mets had a good strategy here, this was a very weak trade deadline as far return in terms of prospects
yawn
lol no.
bobbleheadguru
Tigers Rotation =
2013 Cy Young +
2013 ERA Champion +
2012 Cy Young +
2011 Cy Young +
A 25 year old with 73 career wins.
GrayhawkAZ
Drew Smyly is an average pitcher
SierraM363
I like the Lester deal better.
SheaGoodbye
As do I and every other rational human being on the planet.
Jaynestown
There is no way that’s it
barry2
Is there a salary dump? Smyly 5th starter/reliever and Franklin hasn’t don’t much.
Better
W
O
W
What just happened?
SheaGoodbye
I almost feel like crying out of embarrassment for Rays fans if this is all there is to the deal. Unfathomable.
Houstoncolt45s
Sooooo…who plays centerfield for the tigers now? Do they call up Carrera? Fields? Trust Dirks or Davis? Yikes. Glad they are bolstering their rotation though.
cgriffith
Stephen Moya?
Houstoncolt45s
Moya is primarily a RF. That .300 OBP is disturbing, especially since it’s only AA. I’ll take Carrera if it comes down to those two.
Hello it's Dick again
Carrera
PaidByTheNotes
has to be more going to TB. otherwise freidman got fleeced.
yawn
So all Tampa got was Smily and Franklin.. no prospects? Thats it?
wow.
northsfbay
You would think that the Rays could get more for Price. Why do the M’s want Austin Jackson?
Mario_Lanza
Because they haven’t had a center fielder in years.
Kevin6CD
They still don’t.
Kevin6CD
They still don’t.
Chris Vinnit
So Franklin and Smyly for Price? Wow, Friedman got more for Kazmir, Shields, and Garza than he got for the best pitcher the team ever had!
Todd Smith
The Pirates could have offered Morton and Hanson and beat this deal. I don’t get it at all.
Chris Vinnit
I know. I will give Smyly credit for being better than Morton but this reads like Kingham + Hanson for Price. If I were Huntington, I would’ve made that deal so fast Friedman’s office would’ve gotten the contract before he hung up the phone. Just an absolutely mind-bogglingly meager return.
johansantana15
The Dodgers could have offered Pederson and Guerrero and destroyed this deal
Hoosierdaddy92
For all the people saying the Rays didn’t get enough, this is Andrew Friedman we are talking about. He obviously saw something he liked in both Franklin and Smyly and good for him for getting the guys he wants. As a Tigers fan, I can tell you Smyly has the potential to be an elite starting pitcher. I was really hoping we didn’t deal him and were able to keep him as a dominant lefty out of the pen. As for Franklin, he looked like a burgeoning power hitter at a tough position last year with the Mariners before he cooled off and lost his opportunity abruptly. If the Rays can bring that out of him again, this could be a very good deal.
PhilliesPhan4102
The Rays should have gotten Castellanos.
Hoosierdaddy92
Rays have Longoria long-term? And Tigers would create one big hole to upgrade where they really didn’t need to. DD would not budge on Castellanos.
TheBigNice
I don’t know about elite. He’s good, yeah, but he’s no Price.
Hoosierdaddy92
Not currently, but if any organization can develop him into something close, it’s the Rays
TheBigNice
Maybe. Don’t get me wrong, I like Smyly, he’s good. Watched all his starts this year (Tigers fan) but, unless he develops Cliff Lee-esq command, I’m not sure there’s much ceiling left with him. Either way, he’ll do good things for the Rays.
bigbadjohnny
Rays GM must want to work at the Tigers FO after this season.
Rally Weimaraner
The Cubs got a better return for 2 months of Garza than the Rays got for Price!
PaidByTheNotes
exaclty
Brodan
This doesn’t change the triangle at all. Tigers will always own A’s, A’s will always own Angels and the Angels will always own the Tigers. It is clockwork.
seth
This is the complete trade? Seriously????
UpSide
Looks like this trade will put an end to everyone thinking the Rays sell high or bargain hard.. Well and truly done over in this one. Tigers laughing
PaidByTheNotes
baffling why they wouldn’t keep price if that’s all they got. could have done much better.
Danielle Rennifer
Did the Mariners get Colon or Cespedes at the last minute deal? If not both could be put on waivers.
Jon 27
The Astros got more for Jarred Cosart then the Rays did for Price
nate-6
I was just about to say that
nate-6
this cannot be all there is… there’s no way friedman would make this trade
Salty Dog
The fact is the market has adjusted. Several years ago, sure, you’d get multiple top prospects for the final two years of an elite SP, e.g. Adam Jones/Chris Tillman + 2 others for Erik Bedard. Times have changed. Teams are now properly valuing prospects, which is why you’re seeing more trades involving major league players rather than prospects (e.g. Cespedes and Smyly). I think everyone saying the Rays got fleeced is living in the past. This is the new market reality.
$3513744
no man, they got fleeced. big time. especially with the packages that have been rumored with seattle for weeks now.
Better
Fleeced
RHova87
tell that to THEO LOLOL
PaidByTheNotes
oh how short our memories have become… samardzjia and hammel for russel, mckinney and straily. garza just last year, for olt, ramirez, grimm and edwards. both of those deals are better returns for lesser pitchers, and both relatively recent trades.
PaidByTheNotes
not to mention the marlins dealing moran and marisnik for cosart. freidman got hosed. plain and simple.
Salty Dog
The fact is the market has adjusted. Several years ago, sure, you’d get multiple top prospects for the final two years of an elite SP, e.g. Adam Jones/Chris Tillman + 2 others for Erik Bedard. Times have changed. Teams are now properly valuing prospects, which is why you’re seeing more trades involving major league players rather than prospects (e.g. Cespedes and Smyly). I think everyone saying the Rays got fleeced is living in the past. This is the new market reality.
lambird17
So they wanted at the very least Taveras + Miller/Martinez for Price from the Cards but only got Franklin and Smyly for him? Wow
Eric Murray
Yeah I’m thinking the same thing lol Kelly and Craig would’ve been a better return
billy f
There are no cowbells ringing in the Trop for this trade.
yawn
Verlander
Price
Sanchez
Scherzer
Porcello
damn thats nice
Nathan Fenstemaker
Max?
yawn
lol oops my fault
Kevin6CD
+1’d for completely genuine “Matt Scherzer”
Dynasty22
Verlander isn’t an ace this year.
$3513744
fixed:
dustin verlander
mark price
dirty sanchez
matt scherzer
porcello
DelusionalCubsFan
I don’t know a lot about the guys the Rays got but it sure looks to me like the Tigers won this trade. Thought for sure Price would have brought back a couple of elite prospects. Sure makes me happy TheoJed jumped the deadline on everybody and traded Samardzija and Hammel weeks ago.
letsgogiants
The Mariners seriously couldn’t beat this offer by themselves? Price would have been a great addition along with Price and Iwakuma and would have made things very, very interesting in the AL West.
GD
What TB got back is compared to:
Elias and Franlklin for Price. Wow
Baseball Legend
That’s a pretty weak trade for the Rays. They should have waited until the offseason.
Jon 27
Maybe there’s like $50 million involved?
Jon 27
Or Maybe the Tigers are gonna build the Rays stadium for them?
W.G
Wow, that is the final deal… I would of thought STL or LA would of put together a better package
Baseball Legend
There were some really bad deals made today by a few teams and the Rays just caped off the worst of the bunch after an afternoon of the Red Sox making one bad deal after another. Believe it or not, but the Yanks and Tigers are clear winners this year. The Yanks got McCarthy, Headley, Drew, and Prado for virtually nothing. The Tigers, well, I am still wrapping my head around that. The Red Sox got worse now, next year and in 2016.
d-blaqueqq
Lol Yanks aren’t even going to finish in the wild card. But I agree, the AL East did pretty bad today as a whole.
TWWxKeys
This probably means Scherzer walks this offseason
GenerationInk
Guarantees it. thats ok im of the opinion getting one more year and negotiating time with Price is worth letting Scherzer walk
DRays Jim
As a Rays fan…I’m just stunned.
bigbadjohnny
all 40 of them I bet.
DRays Jim
You would think; but to be honest there are a lot of us. TV ratings are very high…we just don’t want to drive over that damn bridge.
Nathan Boley
Is the bridge really that bad? In Pittsburgh we have more bridges than anyone and we have you beat in attendance handily.
DRays Jim
Yes; it really is. By the time most get out of work in Tampa, fight traffic to go home and get the kids then turn to fight traffic again for easily 30-45 minutes or more…the game has already started. To do this 82 times a year is crazy. The dome is surrounded halfway by water and the other 50% does not have enough households to fill the stadium in a 10 mile radius. Take the same percentage of people that go to the game now and put it were the people are in Tampa and using the same percentage and you will double the attendance nightly. The main question is how does it get paid for and what does it take to payoff the lease in St. Pete.
SheaGoodbye
Another piece, thank good for the Rays. But who the hell is Willy Adames?
JacksTigers
18 year old playing very well in A ball. Could be something, could fizzle.
RHova87
if hitting .269 in the midwest league is your definition of playing well…
SheaGoodbye
Youngest player in the league, so that’s pretty good considering.
Slothcliff Hokum
If all the Mariners have had to give up for Austin Jackson, Kendrys Morales and Chris Dinorfia is Nick Franklin, Steven Pryor, Abraham Almonte and minor-league pitcher Stephen Kohlscheen, I think that’s pretty decent. Not glamorous moves, but the M’s have a more reliable everyday guy in CF now, and a better backup OF who has hit lefties well in his career. (And a DH who might start hitting at some point!) 🙂
LordOfTheSwings
Red Sox arguably got more for Lackey than the Rays got for Price…
That arguable would be much better if Allen Craig bounces back… pretty big if though I’ll admit, he looks pretty bad.
Edit: I see that they also got a prospect… I personally don’t know anything about him, so this post may now be less accurate depending on how good he is.
Eric Murray
They should’ve offered kelly/Craig for price,lol
Aron
This seriously can’t be it. It CAN’T be. How do the Mariners just give up Nick Franklin and turn that into Austin Jackson, a proven CFer who can hit for avg. and power. And the Tigers only give up Jackson and Smyly for a young cheap CY Young winner with another year of control????
Baseball Legend
This trade was a mistake all around and I wouldn’t trust Jack Z for a moment.
westcoastwhitesox
I think AJackson is a better, higher-potential, more complete player than most of the guys Jack Z is able to deal with. However, I sincerely hope Jackson doesn’t take it too hard he was traded away from a worldseries contender. Aside from Kemp (who’d cost too much), I haven’t been excited about any batters rumored to be in play for the Mariners, but I am excited about this!
Eric Murray
Cards should’ve offered Kelly and Craig for price….this has to be a joke
Unassisted Triple Play
Did the Rays panic? Maybe i’m drastically underrating drew smyly. What no one is talking about is that the Mariners just traded Nick Franklin for Austin Jackson! Yes, that is quite the coup especially since franklin is blocked by some dude named robinson cano. Mariners, job well done!
Jon 27
Tigers #3 Prospect 18 yr old SS Willy Adames included per Ken Rosenthal
nate-6
im still hoping for more
SheaGoodbye
Still not enough but a big step in the right direction.
Eric Murray
That’s still next to nothing…I figured they would get more ML ready prospects
slasher016 2
As expected, another piece going from Detroit to Tampa.
Kingmojo101
Thats it?, angels could have gave the rays grant green, michael kohn, and tyler skaggs/matt shoemaker/hector santiago in a deal.
GrayhawkAZ
So Seattle gets Jackson for Franklin…. Thats it? Wow.. Great trade for Seattle
Hoosierdaddy92
You have to wonder how much of this DD planned for this blockbuster in the offseason for this year and 2015 in the event that they couldn’t resign Scherzer. Trades Fister away to show the league what Smyly can do, trades Fielder away and relies on Castellanos and JD Martinez replacing Fielder offense, gets Kinsler to be the new leadoff hitter instead of Austin Jackson, and surprisingly signs Rajai Davis to a two year deal (who can play CF and effectively replace Austin Jackson production). Not saying he could predict Austin Jackson and Smyly would net this much talent, but still, impressive.
yawn
Boston fans can’t feel that bad considering what Tampa got
Salty Dog
Unless I’m missing something, the Mariners only control Jackson through 2015, and he’ll be in his last year of arbitration, which means he’s probably going to get a raise to something like $9 million. He’s a useful asset, but it’s not like they’re getting him for multiple pre-arbitration years or anything.
Tony Matias
Franklin had no future with the M’s and 2nd is his only projected position. This was a good trade for Seattle.
Salty Dog
My point was merely that saying “the Mariners got a great CF for nick franklin” isn’t the full story. If you’re getting Austin Jackson two years ago, when he still had 3 years of team control, that’s very different from getting him now. You also have to look at what else Franklin might have brought in return. Can’t just say that because he didn’t have a future here that Seattle couldn’t have gotten a better return from someone else.
For the record, I agree it’s a good trade. Jackson’s unlikely to sign a long-term deal since he’s a Boras client, but even if he doesn’t sign long-term, you extend him the qualifying offer and either sign him or get a draft pick. Just think people need to look at the full context to properly evaluate the trade.
Unassisted Triple Play
Someone explain to me how the Tigers will be able to afford Verlander, Price and Scherzer? Impossible!! One of Scherzer or Price will be gone shortly, so this is a total win now move!
Alex Foltz
My crystal ball tells me they will lose Scherzer in the offseason. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Eric Murray
Yes it is. Scherzer is gone after this year and DD cam focus on signing price longterm. For now they have an electric rotation
Kevin6CD
If only trading Verlander were possible.
Eric Murray
Porcello having a bounce back year and they still have Sanchez…that top 4 is still,better next year than a lot ofteams
Unassisted Triple Play
Well it’s not improved though by subtracting scherzer and inserting price for next year. It improves them dramatically for the rest of this season and that’s it. If anything some would prefer scherzer over price if picking between the two for next season.
Eric Murray
And who would rather pay for one of the top lefties in the game over a righty with equal or,worse success….most GMs
Unassisted Triple Play
You can’t make this argument without backslapping Max Scherzer in the process. Max has been the better of the two over the last 2 seasons so the the rotation with Price over Scherzer can’t reasonably be argued to have improved. Fair?
Eric Murray
Scherzer turned down an extension before the season. They’ve been planning for him to bounce all season and for this price got a steal. They can use the $$$ they offered scherzer to sign price easily. Like I said a verlander price Sanchez Porcello rotation is better than a verlander Sanchez Porcello rotation so yes they are improved passed this,season
Unassisted Triple Play
To sign Price easily? That’s laughable. Just like u said earlier who would be interested in David Price? Most GM’s. They could wind up only getting him for next season but that’s better than not having him or scherzer next year but my point is and it’s very valid that beyond the rest of this season the Tigers rotation did not improve.
Eric Murray
You don’t think they traded for him with the intent of signing him long term? Lol that’s laughable. So if they didn’t get price and lost scherzer their rotation would be worse, correct? So getting price at least keeps a good rotation stable and not get worse so I’m correct in what I’m saying. Scherzer is older than price so signing him long term makes less sense than signing price long term. I never made the assumption that their rotation got better did i? They are improved passed this year in that they will have a rotation with price next year instead of a rotation without price or scherzer which is precisely why the tigers made this move.
Eric Murray
I’d rather sign a guy long term That’s had a better career than a guy whose had 2 good years lol
Bill Couch
max is 2 years older and doesent have a track record of pitching long into games.I would take price all day any day.
SinHalo27
Looks like Rays got the worst of the deal. Gave up a left-handed starting ace there.
agureghian
especially one that is under team control for next year too…
javywoz
Friedman just got Friedman’d by someone else…..sad day in Rays land
nate-6
very sad indeed… im furious
javywoz
I was all for trading Price….but not for this. I’d rather OT or Joc Pederson straight up. Need star upside if you trade Price, not a useful #3/#4 pitcher and an avg middle infielder.
SheaGoodbye
Friedman REALLY needs to lay off the hard stuff prior to future trade deadlines. Seriously, it’s hard to comprehend how he felt compelled to move Price now, for this return, after holding onto him for so long in hopes of maximizing said return. Even with the Tigers #3 prospect included, it’s still an incredibly weak return for an ace signed through the end of next season.
This all provided more prospects do not trickle out of the woodwork
Mike Sutton
Loving Franklin for Jackson. M’s outfield just got a BIG boost!
agureghian
This makes the A’s trade for Shark and Hammel a HUGE overpay.
TheBigNice
Yeah, it really does.
Alex Foltz
this makes every trade this season a huge overpay.
Lester deal an overpay
Lackey deal an overpay
Masterson an overpay
This deal is crazy bad
Hopper15 2
peavy an overpay
Ace2095
All makes sense now with Willy Adames going to Tampa…they didn’t get fleeced…now let me go google Willy Adames…..
nate-6
no not fleeced but they definitely didn’t get market value… look at what the cubs got for shark and hammel… even what the Padres got for Street is better than this lot… im furious
Ace2095
Even the Lester deal was better then this, the Rays waited too long to deal and the buyers just wern’t willing to pony up that much last minute.
nate-6
if that’s true, they shouldn’t have traded price at all… there has to be more than this… this is completely out of character for friedman
Ace2095
I think he did this to save face, the fans wanted to see a move with Price and he moved Price.
nate-6
im a fan and I would have much rather keep price till winter… surely they could have done better in the meeting than this… im embarrassed
Ace2095
Maybe there are still pieces that need to be announced? You never know..
nate-6
I hope… I really hope… Friedman has NEVER failed like this before… so who knows… should find out in an hour… until then Im gonna go drink
Ace2095
Drink away your sorrows?