Now that we’re beyond the July 31st trade deadline, players must pass through revocable trade waivers in order to be dealt to another team. MLBTR’s Jeff Todd broke down the August trade rules and what it means when you see several major names placed on waivers over the next few weeks.
Here are today’s notable players who have reportedly been placed on revocable waivers…
- Also going on revocable waivers today were Jason Hammel of the Athletics and Wade Miley of the Diamondbacks, Rosenthal tweets. As Rosenthal notes, it seems likely that clubs will claim Miley, but that he will be pulled back by Arizona. As for Hammel, a deal still seems rather unlikely since Oakland dealt away some important rotation depth in Tommy Milone.
- Hitting the wire today from the Phillies were Marlon Byrd, Jonathan Papelbon, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Cole Hamels, and Carlos Ruiz, Rosenthal tweets. They will be on waivers until Wednesday.
- The Phillies placed Antonio Bastardo, A.J. Burnett, Roberto Hernandez, Ryan Howard and Kyle Kendrick on revocable waivers, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reports (via Twitter). The moves all took place on Saturday, so since the waiver period lasts 47 hours, we could know by today if any of the players were claimed. I’d expect Bastardo and Burnett to be claimed given that both drew significant interest before the July 31st deadline, and there is virtually no chance any team would claim Howard and risk being stuck with the roughly $68MM remaining on his contract.
Robert Hernandez has actually pitched pretty well lately. Not making a ton either. Could see a low budget team take a flier on him.
Braves are going in the can & need bullpen help. Sounds like a Frank Wren special.
I’d be very surprised if Roberto makes it past teams like the Pirates without being claimed.
He wouldn’t make it past the Brewers either. Nor would Miley or Hammel. Burnett is a possibility but his recent work has been spotty.
Dodgers probably are in on most of these guys.
AJ Burnett will never go to the West Coast
He doesn’t get to choose here tho does he? Unless I’m missing something but woudn’t he have to have a no transaction clause along with a no trade clause?
What is this no transaction clause you speak of? Never heard of it. No trade clauses are still in effect in August.
AJ only has a handful of teams he can be traded to in the clause in his contract……and they are all within bordering states of Pennsylvania…
I believe KC isn’t on his list. Missouri’s a bit of a haul from his northern MD home, though.
I believe KC isn’t on his list. Missouri’s a bit of a haul from his northern MD home, though.
I thought Marlon Byrd would be a given. Really they should just put the entire team on waivers. Sort of makes me think (besides Howard), that these are the guys that maybe they were close to trading but just couldn’t work out a deal in time. By putting them on waivers early, it gives them the max time to get something done by the end of August. I could totally be wrong too. No one seems to know what the heck the front office is doing.
They’re still living in 2008-2009, otherwise this team would’ve shipped off most of their assets while they still had good value.
I’d be surprised if Burnett is claimed because of his contract. He’s owed $3M the rest of the year and could add another $1.25M to that if he makes 6 more starts. If he makes 8 more starts (he’s scheduled to make 10 more) his option for next year increases to $12.75M. That’s a potential $17M commitment through next year for a 37/38 year old SP who will also need surgery after the season for a sports hernia.
If teams knew for certain that Burnett would accept the $1M buyout then he’d get claimed. That uncertainty makes it unlikely since the Phillies would probably just let him go to a team not on his limited NTC and free themselves of that potential salary commitment.
Two weeks ago the Pirates seemed to be hot on getting him back. Those stories went quiet. His contract will be quite the burden.
His player option is a bit of a deterrent, but he’s pitching well enough and the price is reasonable enough that I expect several teams to claim him.
He’s… Not pitching well enough, actually. He’s had a few good starts in the past 2 months, but he’s had a couple of really poor ones as well. Potentially paying $15MM in 2015 to play a guy who hovers around the 4.15 ERA mark would make a claim unlikely, I’d think.
He’s… Not pitching well enough, actually. He’s had a few good starts in the past 2 months, but he’s had a couple of really poor ones as well. Potentially paying $15MM in 2015 to play a guy who hovers around the 4.15 ERA mark would make a claim unlikely, I’d think.
How does one find out who has been placed on revokable wavers? Is there a list published somewhere?
It’s kept as a secret, but some names tend to trickle out from various sources.
Just curious. This article makes it sound like it’s common knowledge. It would be fun to see who is on these lists and speculate who might be going where.
Yeah, we’re not actually supposed to know about this unless someone is claimed, but reporters have their sources.
Many teams put most of their roster on waivers.
It’s common knowledge that just about everybody in baseball gets put on waivers, but the public information on the who/what/where/when/why is hit-and-miss. Once players start clearing (or not clearing), we’ll start a post with a running list.
That way, everyone can concoct hypothetically possible, yet still outlandish trade scenarios in their heads … myself included.
Thanks Jeff
Theoretically, could you put some horrible player on waivers and then add someone like Benoit to the deal like they did two years ago with Crawford, Gonzalez, etc? I guess I’m just asking if that’s a workaround
If everyone clears waivers.
So Gonzalez, Crawford, Punto and beckett all cleared waivers? I guess I didn’t know that part
Can’t make trades in August without clearing waivers unless a team claims you. I’m assuming they all cleared waivers just because it seems unlikely that LA claimed them all.
They had to, the trade was made in late August.
OK, yeah, took me a minute to find an article that detailed it. Interesting.
Gonzalez and Beckett were actually claimed by LA, but they likely would’ve cleared anyway.
Red Sox could afford Howard
Even if they were to take on that ridiculous contract, where would they put him?
They could afford him but there is absolutely no reason to acquire him.
Or any other team.
I can afford a dozen hamburgers, doesn’t mean I should go get them for lunch.
So, you’d rather Eat Fresh? Sounds like Howard’s a better fit for you than you realize.
Can he pitch?
Why would anyone want a one legged out of shape guy who is owed $68 million ?
If I’m a team on Burnett’s no-trade list I might just claim him to verify none of my rivals get a shot at him
I’m pretty sure if he was claimed, Philly has the option of simply giving him away regardless of the NTC. They wouldn’t get anything back, but it would unload his salary.
No, this came up during the Punto trade when Beckett was claimed. A “No-trade clause” is really a “No-transaction clause.” The Phillies can’t send Burnett, via trade or waiver claim, to one of his blocked teams without him waiving it.
Ah okay, my mistake. I thought that was the case when the Dodgers claimed Lee, but that makes sense. Good thing Punto didn’t have a NTC.
My coed slow pitch softball team needs a decent bat at first base. I’d be concerned about Howard hitting against lefties, but if Amaro takes eats the contract I think we could figure out a fair deal.
A bucket of softballs should suffice.
A bucket of waterlogged softballs would be fine too.
An empty bucket would do the trick also.
Pedro Alvarez can play first. Just don’t let him throw.
Howard’s actually doing significantly better against lefties than righties this year, so your concerns may be unwarranted.
Howard’s actually doing significantly better against lefties than righties this year, so your concerns may be unwarranted.
I think it would actually be a minor upset if Burnett was claimed. A trade may happen but not sure about a claim at full contract cost.
I don’t think you quite understand the process. Any team can claim Burnett. If he is claimed, he can either be traded to the team that won the waiver claim, have his contract transferred to the team that won the waiver claim, or have the claim pulled back and stay with the Phillies. If no team claims him (very unlikely), then the Phillies can work out a trade to any team.
I can think of several teams that would benefit from claiming Burnett, but I can’t see the Phillies letting him walk. They’ll either work out a trade with the team that wins the claim (likely a NL team), or revoke the waiver and hold on to his contract.
But I don’t know if you’re remembering the player clause in Burnett’s contract that could scare teams off. There is a mutual option at $15 mil for 2015. That’s not a big deal — I’d highly doubt any team would exercise an option on Burnett for $15 mil. However, there is a second clause that is a player option that Burnett can exercise and play for $7.5 mil in 2015. Even if the team doesn’t want him, Burnett can still trigger that clause and force his way onto a roster for 2015.
With his start the other night that option is now $8.5M. With 8 more starts (and he’s scheduled to make 10) that option increases to $12.75M.
I think he’ll get claimed. One, because there’s still a good chance he retires next year and leaves the money on the table. Hell, he’s pitching with an inguinal hernia right now. Once he gets it treated in the offseason, it might just be easier for him to retire than to rehab hard for just one more year of playing.
Two, if you get him via trade, you can have the Phillies eat some of the contract. If the Phils just let him go, you’re adding a decent arm to your rotation for the stretch run at the cost of no prospects and negative-$5million in surplus value next year. If I were a contender, I’d rather take on AJ’s full contract for no prospects than give up what St. Louis did for Masterson.
Roberto “dont call me Fausto” Hernandez has been pitching great the past month. His sinker has been nasty. Last 7 starts he has a 2.85 era . He would be a nice cheap”under the radar” pickup for a contender.
Burnett was pitching great also until Ryne Sandturd made him throw 136 pitches with an hour rain delay to boot.He’s been horrible since that game- 3 starts ago.
i wouldnt want any parts of Bastardo ,Kendrick or Howard
Lots of relievers are jekyll/hyde like Tony No-Dad. He’s still a valuable arm despite his recent struggles. I’m sure he’ll get claimed by someone.
I think I love that name. Lol
Bastardo pitched 2 innings tonight striking out all 6 batters…. That had to be impressive and just boosted his value. Kendrick with 1 ER over 7 innings tonight, another good showing that was needed. For what its worth, Howard hit his 17th HR and drove in the winning run in the 15th inning… Mr Clutch.
Jeff Todd wrote an excellent article explaining the process but I have heard conflicting stories about one aspect of the process. Can someone explain: if a player is traded to Team X for say 2 players. Do those two players also need to clear waivers for the trade to be finalized. The source included anyone on the 40 man roster which I found odd. I did not think so. Someone please help me out. Thanks
I always understood it as all players involved needing to pass through waivers first.
That seems to create a logistics nightmare in timing because by the time team A finds out they have sole trading rights for the player from team X , they need to put all of their players who they want to use in the trade on waivers and then wait 48 hours to see if they get claimed. By that time the clock has run out on the player they won the rights for. What am I missing here?
You make sense. Further explanation would be helpful!
Found this on a blog called Tomahawktake by Alan Carpenter on the sports illustrated website…
” Let’s say that a bona fide trade deal is worked out. Waived Player A is traded for a Player B. If Player B is on the 40-man roster of his club, then he must also have already passed through waivers successfully (i.e., his own 48-hour waiver period is done) before being trade-eligible.
When I mentioned “maximum flexibility” above, this is what I was referring to: getting a large number of your own players through waivers gives your GM more options for possible trades. Now if Player B is not on the 40-man, then there is no issue, as waivers are not required for them. This turns out to be common with “player-for-prospects” kind of trades.”
Yeah, there’s no backdoor that allows you to avoid the waiver process. (Though there is a backdoor, mentioned in the post on the subject, for players who are on the 40-man but not the 25-man: making them a PTBNL.)
But the logistical issues are ameliorated by the fact that all the possible swaps are presumably often talked out ahead of time — nobody is surprised when guys go on waivers.
From a sports illustrated blog…
” Let’s say that a bona fide trade deal is worked out. Waived Player A is traded for a Player B. If Player B is on the 40-man roster of his club, then he must also have already passed through waivers successfully (i.e., his own 48-hour waiver period is done) before being trade-eligible.
When I mentioned “maximum flexibility” above, this is what I was referring to: getting a large number of your own players through waivers gives your GM more options for possible trades. Now if Player B is not on the 40-man, then there is no issue, as waivers are not required for them. This turns out to be common with “player-for-prospects” kind of trades.”
Thanks!
Also often times players are going from bad teams to good teams, and while player A has cleared waivers or was claomed by the “good team” the bad team will have an early strike at player b
All players on a 40 man roster need to clear at least to the trading team anyway. If a middle of the pack team is attempting to deal a prospect that may not clear it generally it becomes a PTBNL
However, depending on who’s involved the two teams could agree to who changes teams in the deal and the guys who clear waivers can move and those who don’t become mysterious PTBNL guys who can jump teams after the season closes out.
come on Dodgers go for Kendrick or Burnett
Wonder if Pittsburgh will try to work something out with Marlon Byrd, given the news on Cutch
Hmmm i could see the A’s going for Utley or Rollins
Either would have to approve a trade (since they both hold 10-5 rights). Utley has basically said no way that happens, and Jimmy has said that the likelihood of that is very small.
No idea why they wouldn’t want to play elsewhere.
Comes down to how much they want to win vs. how comfortable they are in Philadelphia.
Could probably use both. While it’s unlikely they’ll waive their NTC this year, they’ve both got ties to the Bay Area.
I can feel it. Byrd and Burnett back to the Pirates. With Marte out until next week, and Cutch out for a month, we could really use Byrd. Burnett would also be a decent boost to the rotation.
Hope not!
Way too much money. The Phillies aren’t going to eat any of it.
Hamels has 9 teams he’s willing to be traded too. The Angels, Dodgers, and Giants are on that list among the West contenders. Coletti won’t give up his best 3 prospects, so the Halos should claim him to see what they can work out. Since the Halos seem they could offer that “present and future package” that might intrigue the Phillies enough for keeping them afloat rather than taking upon some dry seasons ahead, give it a shot!!
I’m not that knowledgable on the Angels farm, but I thought it was pretty dismal. The Phillies need at least two top 50 prospects to think about giving up a guy like Hamels.
The Angels have the second best record in the AL, meaning they’d be the second to last in line to place a claim on Cole. Hamels won’t make it that far. He certainly won’t make it out of the NL and he might even be claimed by the Rockies or Cubs in the microscopic chance the Phillies choose to just let Hamels go.
That would be interesting if the Cubs placed a claim on him. The Phillies certainly wouldn’t just let him go, but the Cubs have the pieces and could be looking for a front of the rotation arm to lead their staff for the next 4-5 years. Not sure Hamels would waive his NTC to go to Chicago since they’re still 2-3 years away, but they’re certainly closer to competitive baseball than the Phillies are.
They’re not in the position to give up prospects for anyone, though. If they were to make the claim, it’d be in the form of purchasing a lottery ticket or blocking another team, like the Cardinals.
I don’t see any real scenario that the Phillies just let Hamels go. Not even a microscopic one. He’s a top 15 pitcher in baseball (pitching like a top 10 this year), locked up for 4 more years, at a fixed price. The AAV may be a little high – but with Lester, Shields, and Scherzer all hitting FA this winter, I have a feeling Hamels’ contract will look a little better. The only possible way I’d see them letting him walk away was if they had some crystal ball telling them that his arm is going to snap between now and the offseason.
Greinke still has another year before he can opt out, but your point still stands.
Ahh, that’s right, it’s Price and Greinke together. I couldn’t remember which group he fell into. Fixed it.
They won’t, but from the Cubs’ perspective, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by putting a claim on him.
Teams aren’t going to let Hamels clear waivers just because the Phillies are certain to only trade him or retain him. They’ll buy the lottery ticket and force the Phils to pull him back.
When you put a player on waivers it also allows you to make a trade with the claiming team. It’s not just for unloading expensive contracts. That said the Phillies want a ton for Hamels.
I get how waivers work. My point was more toward Tommy who said “might even be claimed by the..Cubs in the…chance the Phillies choose to just let him go.”
I took “just let him go” to mean let him walk away and get nothing in return. Which is why I explained they wouldn’t just let him go.
If some team puts a claim on Cole Hammels, they are Nuts……he is signed through 2018….$22.5 million per year.
And he’s worth every penny.
$22.5MM/year will be under market value this winter for a front line pitcher, once Scherzer and Lester set the market.
Mike Trout is signed through 2020 at a little over $24MM AAV. That doesn’t mean every team wouldn’t claim him.
Burnett will probably be claimed by the O’S.
That’s possibly a $17M commitment through next year if they do.
Jason Hammel sounds like a cheaper route to take.
Cheaper, but the A’s are unlikely to move him. Burnett would likely just cost the money. Though with Ruben he could demand a good prospect even though just having that money free would give the Phillies the flexibility to add Castillo or Tomas, maybe both.
He’d like that.
He won’t make it out of the NL without being claimed
i wonder if dodgers would get Jason Hammel maybe he need NL hitting again. plus dodgers do have one of the best pitching coaches so maybe he can work his magic and get the cubs hammel again or something close. since dodgers are really hurting in the 4th/5th spot
I would love for the Red Sox to make a claim for Wade Miley should he even get that far. A young lefty that is under contract for awhile and is cheap compared to what they would have to pay on the FA market and is probably cheap in regards to a trade. I would think that Arizona would want probably a top 75 prospect in return.
Is there any listing or transaction page that all players that are placed on revocable waivers, not just notable ones, can be found?
Their immediate need is a starter to replace Garza who just went on the DL with an oblique injury. As for Howard, not even remotely interested. Reynolds is providing power at 1B. Howard would have to be released for Brewers to even think about it.