In this week’s edition of his Inside Baseball column, Jon Heyman of CBS Sports begins by examining the possibility of the Astros making a run at the Phillies’ Cole Hamels. Houston is seeking a top-of-the-rotation starter, and Hamels is on their radar, Heyman hears, even though he’s something of a long shot. The Astros are seeking a No. 1 or No. 2 starter, one person told Heyman, though Houston GM Jeff Luhnow indicated they’d be interested in any arm that could start Games 1-3 of a playoff series. The Phillies are said to be intrigued by outfield prospects Preston Tucker and Brett Phillips, among others, Heyman notes. Houston won’t part with top prospect Carlos Correa or impressive rookie right-hander Lance McCullers Jr., and they’d prefer to keep righty Vincent Velasquez as well. Heyman adds that it’s uncertain whether or not Hamels would approve a trade to Houston, with one source indicating that they didn’t find the scenario likely. If Hamels were to approve the trade, he’d likely ask that his 2019 option be exercised, and the Phillies would almost certainly have to pay down some of the $24MM he is owed annually, per Heyman.
Some more highlights…
- The Reds are currently reluctant to sell any pieces according to rivals who have reached out to the team. That may simply be due to the fact that the team is set to host the All-Star game this year and doesn’t want to begin a potential fire sale before that game. However, other execs have indicated to Heyman that owner Bob Castellini prefers to see how his big-money investments in Joey Votto and others will play out rather than commencing a rebuilding effort.
- Both Dillon Gee and Jon Niese remain widely available, as the Mets would prefer to add promising lefty Steven Matz to their six-man rotation. One scout that spoke to Heyman said Matz is better than any pitcher in the rotation aside from Matt Harvey, which is high praise, particularly considering Jacob deGrom’s brilliant start to the season and the flashes of brilliance displayed by Noah Syndergaard.
- The Yankees are interested in the Athletics’ Ben Zobrist as an option at second base and also still like Dustin Ackley despite his struggles with the Mariners. New York has been surprised by Jose Pirela’s troubles to this point, and they still have questions about Rob Refsnyder’s glove at second base. Heyman adds that the Yankees don’t expect to be big players on Cole Hamels this winter, and they were worried about Mark Teixeira enough this offseason that they checked in on Ryan Howard, though clearly those concerns have dissipated in light of Teixeira’s excellent resurgence.
- The Cardinals, Blue Jays and Cubs are the three teams that Heyman mentions as most realistic options for right-hander Rafael Soriano. He calls the Cards “a surprise entry” into the Soriano mix, adding that the Jays have not given up the idea of signing him but will need to see what his price tag is now that he’s switched representatives.
- The Mariners will probably see a need to add a veteran catcher after trading Welington Castillo to the D-Backs in order to land Mark Trumbo. Heyman spoke to someone close to the Mariners who described the team as “desperate” to add offense prior to the Trumbo deal, as they’ve received struggles from many of their outfielders and, surprisingly, Robinson Cano.
- Red Sox higher-ups have an immense amount of respect for manager John Farrell, so while votes of confidence from ownership and executives often mean little, Heyman feels that Boston’s recent vote of confidence in Farrell has more weight behind it. However, Boston won’t be swayed by the fact that Farrell’s contract runs through 2017 if they do decide a change is needed down the line.
- Both Dodgers right-hander Jose De Leon and Yankees shortstop Jorge Mateo have hired Scott Boras to represent them. The pair of prospects is well-regarded within each organization.
I think this site does a lot, a lot of great work. But this–even with the proper citation–is an embarrassing take directly from CBS. Please keep original content coming.
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Most of the content here comes from other sites. That’s kinda the point.
Most of the content here comes from other sites. That’s kinda the point.
The Astros dont need hamels the rangers want hamels
I think niese would be a decent fit for dodgers, pretty decent track record though bad start to year. Gee just isn’t good
Then why would the Dodgers want him, those guys are dime a Dozen !
Possibly because they lack someone like him, and need pitching depth
Sub 4 ERA pitchers are a dime a dozen?
Historically Gee has been the definition of a #5. On the upside he is a solid #4 and on the downside he is a solid #5. He doesn’t blow guys away, but he can steal wins and pitch .500 ball. Go look at #5 pitchers around the league…Gee’s numbers are very favorable against almost any team’s #5.
I want Ackley in Yankee pinstripes so they make him shave his face. The kid will never hit until he shaves. 😀
Schwarber, CJ Edwards and McKinney for Hamels and 25 mil. If that’s all the Astros offer is I see no reason why the Cubs or any other team for that matter don’t make a run at Hamels.
That’s a very fair trade for both sides IMO and I’ve said this a few times on here. I know Cubs fans don’t want to part with Schwarber, but they can’t fit everyone in the field. I get Schwarber will be a monster, but if the Cubs win a world series with Hamels nobody will care.To everyone saying trade Castro or Baez.. Neither have much value right now. Castro’s 74 wRC+ is pretty terrible. Baez oozes with potential, but has to cut down on the Ks. He’s 0-8 with 6 Ks in his last 2 games after cutting his K rate a lot in the first few weeks.
I’m tired of waiting. I know offense has been the weak point for the Cubs this year, but I fully expect that to pick up. Fowler has been good enough and Bryant/Rizzo have been great. If Castro and Soler pick it up they’ll be dangerous. Baez will be up in a couple weeks and hopefully he preforms well. Cogs BABIP has been terrible yet he’s hitting the ball really hard this year so that will change. Plus a rotation of Hamels, Lester, Arrieta & Hammel in the playoffs is nasty.
i hope the rangers move for Rafael Soriano
No way Soriano is not good at all
i think that he could be a good addition
Only for a relief appearance not a closing job
Anything to help the pen would be a good idea for the Rangers. Strangely, it has been one of the more frustrating areas for them this year.
Time for the Reds to go on a run.
I don’t know how other teams view Gee and Niese. They seem bad but that’s when I’m comparing them to Harvey, deGrom, Syndergaard and Colon. Could teams used Gee or Niese as a solid 4-5 and be willing to give up a nice 4th OF or guy like Alex Guerrero?
Hope the Yankees don’t get Zobrist, it was bad enough to see him traded. I don’t know if I could handle him playing for the Yanks
I’m not sure Hamels would be a good idea for the Astros. I know Philly said they would take some of his salary, but wouldn’t Houston still be giving up some decent talent? I know Hamels is good, but that’s a long term commitment for the Astros, especially with their talented farm system
I’m not a huge fan of the Astros prospects personally. I’ve said this before but they are very high risk/high reward. The Phillies can’t afford to miss on this deal.
I see the Rangers as the best fit. I liked the idea of trading more than just Hamels to Texas. Mazara is a must have in my eyes give the needs of the team.
Thank you
Besides, Texas has coveted Hamels for years. Had he not resigned in 2012 the Phillies probably would’ve traded him to Texas for a Garza esq. package.
Your right but I see him coming to the rangers
Would you rather have mazara and alfaro or vogelbach and mckinney? Btw there is no such thing as needs when you arent competing for years. Its about best available talent
Meant schwarber not vogelbach although vbach is a legit bat as well
So you think the Phillies should trade for players who play the same positions as their few top players/prospects?
Schwarber is still a catcher…
Sure. Franco’s a 3B and Crawford’s an SS. If you’re acquiring guys who have SS as their defensive floor, you can stick them pretty much anywhere on the field but catcher.
Disagree nearly 100%. IMO, it’s the other way around.
Rangers farm is littered with swing and miss bats (Alfaro, Williams, Brinson, Demeritte, and even Mazara to an extent). Those aren’t guys I want as prospects (at least not in a trade). Rangers system seems to be built on “athletes” who are figuring out baseball (something the Phillies tried for years – and failed).
Of all the non-Correa/Gallo prospects in those two systems, Phillips is the guy who probably has the safest outcome (for me at least).
They are not sing and miss dude
Alfaro: 26% K rate in minors (29% this year)
Williams: 25% K rate in minors (18% this year)
Brinson: 31% K rate in minors (24% this year)
Demeritte: 34% K rate in minors (35% this year)
Mazara: 24% K rate in minors (20% this year)
They strike out about 1 in every 4 PA (this year, they’ve worked it down to about 1 in every 5…and that’s just weighing Mazara/Williams more).
Those numbers are wrong
Hahaha…I just did the math on them as we sat here. If you want the raw numbers, I can give them to you. But don’t try to pass off facts as lies.
Hamels harang and papelbon to the rangers for smolinkis Lewis Alfaro and jackson
That is not even counting Gallo who has the most extreme K-rate historically of all of them.
Yeah the Rangers are known for their high upside, raw prospexts as much as anyone in baseball.
Seeing Brett Phillips tear up Cally league without brings back Tyson Gyllies flashbacks. Could be Amaros type lol
Appel + Tucker/Santana + Hader for Hamels? Or they could include Singleton in a deal, lol.
Hes not going to houston hes going to texas
We get it, you really want Hamels in Texas
Look at the proposal
Honestly might take more, but Houston has so many prospects they can choose from, Appel and an OF is as good of a start as any
They are looking for impact bats from any position for hamels.
Rangers want hamels
Troll.
But Houston is in Texas! So either way we both might be right.
Astros wont get him they are fine the rangers want hamels
Dude, shut up, seriously! Do you have to change each conversation to Texas?!?
Would you do it if it was Appel/Santana/Carter/Hader? I know they don’t need Carter, but Houston has to get Singleton up somehow.
Also, will someone please block Daniel Moriarity from anything baseball related for the next 75 years?
Come on dude you dont like the rangers I know you dont go ahead admit it
Its not that Daniel Morairity! Some people would just like to have a conversation about a possible trade. Somebody proposes a trade and you butt in and are like, “No the Rangers want him.” You sound sooo dumb!
Perhaps, as part of the deal, Singleton goes to Phillies as salary relief for Houston. Potential replacement for Howard…
Or you could take Appel/Santana/Hader/AJ Reed and maybe some mid-level prospect and you’d give up Hamels, Harang and a truckload of cash.
McCann, Farmer, Fields, Machado for Hamels. No money needed from Phillies.
I hope John Henry is posturing, It is not all Farrell’s fault, but He and Cherington need to go if this is another lost season. A new GM with a different vision should be brought in
Farrell has the same record a Bobby V had, it’s all about perception. Right now most of Cherrington moves look bad, along with their second group of super prospects.
Farrell sticks with struggling veterans way too long. His in game management is poor, and he has had 1 winning season in 5 years of managing. I don’t care who the next manager is, I just hope it’s a new GM that can pick his own guy
I think you Red Sox fans are extremely lucky to have Cherington. He is brilliant. Didn’t he completely turn the team over and rebuilt it in late 2012 and offseason? You won it all in 2013 because of him. Some of us, like Astros fans (no championship for 53 years and counting – one WS appearance) would kill to have him as GM. We can’t afford to ask “what have you done for me lately”. Maybe you want Luhnow?
I know this comment will be buried at the bottom, but can we please do something about the trolls? Don’t feed them. Anyone saying “only (insert team here – Texas) wants Cole Hamels” and shooting down every other team as a possibility is clearly just trolling everyone. Don’t give them the time of day and hopefully they’ll just go away.
Im not a troll
Maybe not on purpose. But repeating the same thing in 10+ comments doesn’t add anything to a conversation. Why don’t you tell us why the Rangers are interested in him, why you think the Rangers will get him, and who you think they’re going to give up to make this happen.
If you truly believe they are the only team interested in Hamels, I’d recommend you watch some baseball.
For the love of god, please!!! Daniel Morairity is sooo annoying!
Why would the Yankees want Ackley? They already have a player like him called Stephen Drew, and at least Drew could play SS. With Zobrist, I would like the Yankees to get him, but not at the price the A’s would want. If it’s a package that doesn’t involve Judge/Severino/Mateo/Sanchez, then maybe.
The Yankees want Ackley because…I rightly do not know why. Maybe they are going for the most amount of outfielders. Or maybe they believe a reverse Samson will happen when he joins them and has to shave that mush on his face.
If they wanted him before it would have made more sense before last season when their second baseman was Roberts. Now there’s zero reason to want him unless he cost nothing but cash considerations, he’s barely worth a scrub minor leaguer at this point.
You know Texas wants Ackley 🙂
Yep.
Zobrist and Clippard would be perfect additions for the Yanks, it would make it a 6 inning game.
Ackley blows, no thanks.
if the mariners need to add an experienced backstop, giants have too many, sanchez and quiroz are both experienced and in the ML system to make room for susac
Carlos Ruiz w/ Papelbon of the Phillies would make sense for the Mariners.
As a Dodger fan Cueto>Hamels. I have a feeling Jose De Leon will be in any deal LA makes for Hamels. I wouldn’t move Jose De Leon unless Cueto and Chapman were coming to LA but I think Jose will be a top of the rotation arm very soon.
You would rather have 1/2 a season of Cueto than 3.5-4.5 years of Hamels?
Yes. Because we can always resign Cueto or get Price instead. Plus we have Urias and De Leon knocking on the door. How long before Holmes and Yadier Alvarez are ready doubt it takes 4 more years.
they demand de leon for just cueto, arms at the deadline still require 2 top 150 prospects at minimum, top arms i should say
If the dodgers want hamels and the phillies are willing to eat a portion of the contract, they will pony up and trade Urias just watch.
They’re calling Urias up in September, they’re not trading him. That’s why they’re resting his arm in June.
Rollins renegotiated his contract before going to the Dodgers to give him a 28 team no trade clause. So the only team the Dodgers can trade Rollins to without his permission is the Phillies. Rollins wants to win. So the destination would have to be real enticing for him to go.
If the Yankees really want Ackley, I wish Jack Z would get it done. Seems like anyone they could send would be better than Ackley. C’mon Jack, before they change their minds.
It will be the dodgers who will pony up and trade for hamels
The Hamels talk will heat up from now until the deadline, Amaro is still looking for a super package to save his job. That means 2 major league ready top prospects and 2 mid level players.
Re: John Farrell–he was let go by Toronto. Did a nice job in 2013 to win the pennant. He’s had a bad 14 finishing last and is currently in last place in an evenly matched division.
I would fire the GM, BenC and kick JF upstairs into the GM slot. Varitek and Gardenhire would my two top choices if they are interested.
I would look to move Sandoval , Hanley and Napoli—anyone know any interested parties? This would be a good time to see just how good the RedSox Farm is.
Hamels, Pap and Howard for lots of prospects.
Hamels could be a fit in Pittsburgh. Your thoughts PhillyFan425?
less so pittsburgh, phils would have to eat 75% of his contract and would still want a package headlined by meadows + one of taillon/glasnow
Not really. The Pirates just gave Liriano 13 million a year. They would be willing to pay Hamels 16 million per year. They would also do a deal headlined by Glasnow and Meadows.
i dont think they are willing to commit 20 mil per year on a pitcher with 4 years left, maybe 2. but not for the prospect cost.
Adding Cole Hamels to that staff, would give them the best pitching staff in the big leagues for 2015. They would probably only have to take 16-17 million per season.
Add hamels to the cubs and they have the best staff… same with dodgers, a’s, white sox, the white sox in particular sale, quintana, hamels, shark, rodon.
Well the Pirates staff has been better than most of those teams so far this season.
If im amaro i take quantity over quality.
Cubs get:
Hamels
Papelbon
Phillies get:
Albert almora
Corey black
billy mckinney
Gleybar torres
Dan vogelbach
Christian villanueva
+1 lottery ticket arm like duary torres or juan regifo
Make that lottery arm Jen-ho Tseng and this is the type of package I’d be after if I were the phillies GM. Though it favors the Cubs because of how far away a few of the more talented players are. Teams don’t usually have the cojones to pull the trigger on a deal like this.They’ll want at least one sure thing.
Corey black is a sure thing in the bullpen. Almora has floor of 4th outfielder, torres floor is probably utility guy. But exactly right about the rest. Could be home run and get a couple all stars or bust or maybe somewhere in between. It garuntees you something at least is my thinking.
All prospects are suspects…. There is no guarantee and if each of those is exactly as you have described that is not much of a return for Hamels alone let alone both.
Thats floor. Floor is the garuntee. That means they could do that stuff right now
Then I doubt a trade will go down unless one team ponies up quality and plenty of it. If The Phillies were in salary dump mode or faced with not being able to resign ala the Rays last year it would be different. RAJ wasn’t given orders to absolutely trade Hamels.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…Three team trade. If I am RAJ and don’t even begin talks unless I know I am getting a relatively young and MLB proven player to start…not a guy that “might” be good. The Phillies do not have anyone nearly ready enough to come in and take his spot. After Cole they have Harang for the rest of the year unless he is traded… The remaining rotation is a disaster waiting to happen… There is no consistency. I understand that they are rebuilding and losses are expected but let’s not get completely crazy and have an entire rotation of #4’s at best. After a MLB proven (and not someone who is just had a cup of coffee and then sent back down) then we talk prospects especially for two guys who have continued to show they have no signs of slowing down. You want my best guy….I want quality in return…think along the lines of Price/Smyly but instead of getting 1.5 years you are getting just under four years at well below market value.
There is no 3 team trade. With 4 wild cards too many teams are in it.
Or you can have castro. Hes proven… point is you arent getting anything proven from someone contending unless you want theold starter who hamels is replacing..
I think it’s down to Texas Rangers or noone for Phillies. They are only team who has right combination of prospects for Hamels.
Not really, the dodgers and the cubs, the red sox do but they won’t part ways with swihart or betts, and that will leave henry owens or e-rod as the center piece. Which is why I believe the dodgers or the cubs will be the two teams bidding for him.
Could you elaborate?
You do know that Castro on the Mets would be a significant downgrade over Flores, correct? Flores leads the Mets in homers, is tied for the Major League lead in homers among SS, and is rating out better on both offense and defense this year over Castro.
Why would the Mets consider trading their best pitching prospect in order to downgrade at shortstop? Please put some thought into your future posts.