The Yankees announced on Thursday that after a decade as the team’s manager, Joe Girardi will not return for an 11th season in 2018. Girardi’s four-year contract (worth a reported total of $16MM) expired at the end of the 2017 season.
Girardi himself tells WFAN’s Sweeny Murti that he did not decide to step down, but that the Yankees made the decision not to retain him (Twitter link): “With a heavy heart, I come to you because the Yankees have decided not to bring me back.”
There have been rumblings for the past couple of weeks that Girardi’s future with the Yankees was uncertain. Ken Rosenthal wrote for The Athletic yesterday (subscription required) that some Yankees officials had gotten the sense that Girardi was “spent” and “ready to move on.” Rosenthal also noted, though, that there was some degree of tension between the Yankees and Girardi. ESPN’s Buster Olney, in fact, tweets that general manager Brian Cashman’s recommendation to owner Hal Steinbrenner was that the Yankees make a change at the manager position.
Cashman offered the following comment in a press release announcing the decision not to retain Girardi:
“I want to thank Joe for his 10 years of hard work and service to this organization. Everything this organization does is done with careful and thorough consideration, and we’ve decided to pursue alternatives for the managerial position. As Hal Steinbrenner and I mentioned to Joe directly this week, he has been a tremendous Yankee on the field and away from it, as a player, coach and manager. He has a tireless work ethic, and put his heart into every game he managed over the last decade. He should take great pride in our accomplishments during his tenure, and I wish Joe and his family nothing but success and happiness in the future.”
Girardi, 53, will walk away from the Yankees with an outstanding 910-710 regular-season record as well as a 28-24 record with the Yankees in the postseason. That playoff record includes a 2009 World Series Championship and this past season’s deep run into Game 7 of the ALCS in what many expected to be a transitional year for the Yanks.
Girardi came under fire following a misstep in Game 2 of the ALCS when he neglected to challenge a hit-by-pitch call on a pitch that, in replay, looked to have struck Indians outfielder Lonnie Chisenhall’s bat rather than his hand, as had been ruled. Chisenhall went to first base, setting the stage for a dramatic Francisco Lindor grand slam.
In the coming days, Girardi owned the mistake, telling the media that he “messed up.” If his accountability wasn’t enough to atone for the decision, however, the Yankees’ play certainly was in the eyes of most fans. Girardi’s Yankees stormed back to win three straight against the Indians, marching to the ALCS and taking the Astros to the brink of elimination in a seven-game series.
Yankees higher-ups, however, seemingly weren’t swayed by the team’s resiliency. Whether the decision ultimately came from the front office or from ownership, Girardi somewhat remarkably becomes the third playoff manager and the sixth overall to be removed from his post in since late September. Two division champion managers, John Farrell (Red Sox) and Dusty Baker (Nationals) have been shown the door by their respective organizations. Additionally, the Phillies (Pete Mackanin) and Mets (Terry Collins) moved their skippers into advisor roles within the front office, while the rebuilding Tigers parted ways with Brad Ausmus.
The managerial seats of both the Nationals and the Phillies remain vacant, creating the possibility that Girardi could enter the mix for either position. Given Girardi’s track record and the level of respect that he has earned throughout the industry, it’d be something of a surprise if either club didn’t reach out to him. As for the Yankees, they’ll embark on their own search for a new skipper in the weeks to come.
David Kaplan of ESPN 1000 first broke the news (on Twitter). FanRag’s Jon Heyman first tweeted that the decision came from the Yankees, not Girardi.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Wow, so who gets fired next unexpectedly so he can take over?
Jeff Bannister
Nah Banny will get at least next season.
Not impressed with Bannister. The most telling sign is what happens to players once they leave the team. Dyson bounced back for the Giants. Darvish played better for the Dodgers. Lucroy came back to life with the Rockies. Something is amiss with Banny.
Girardi will be managing Bryce Harper next year, just not in New York.
Harper is signed through 2018.
I think he’s saying Girardi will be the Nationals manger in 2018.
I have this image in my head of Mike Rizzo hearing this news and comically stumbling over everything in hos home as he rushes to the phone to give Girardi a call.
Yep, yep,yep,yep……might be done by the time I get thru typing…..
Washington does not like to pay Managers.
Yes, when paying managers, the Lerners “sling nickels around like they were manhole covers.”
“ . . . the Lerners “sling Nickels around like they were manhole covers.”
Oh, it’s not quite that bad, lester. But the Nationals appear no more likely to meet Girardi’s price than they were ~12 years ago. Signing Girardi would be a great move for the Nats but he’d have to be an extreme dark horse at this point, notwithstanding the obvious fit.
That got me to spit my coffee laughing…
Casey,
I totally agree!!!
If the Nats have any sense left they’ll atone for the mistake they made 12 years ago by signing Girardi before someone else does. Unfortunately, the Nats are no more likely to meet his price now than they did back then. Completely shocked that the Yankees would do something so dumb.
Have you actually witnessed his bullpen management? Abysmal
With the Cubs? wait… that is in 2019
Scott Servais
Not going to happen because of his good relationship with Jerry
Jerry needs to go, too. Decimated our minor league system that was bad to start with and has drafted very poorly.
Fire the bunch of them except Brosius and bring on Girardi. Heck, promote Brosius to manager and bring in Girardi to be the GM.
Brian Snitker with the Braves could be cleared out. It would be a welcome change for Joe and an upgrade for the Braves. They almost did it anyway, now there is an upgrade on the market.
Can’t see that, though, with the potential penalties coming down on the Braves organization…
He has ties to two more teams. Cubs and Marlins. Joe Maddon isn’t going anywhere.
Cardinals too for that matter. I’m sure cardinal fans would love Matheny to be out.
True….but Matheny is entrenched for the time being.
Girardi wanted to be the Cardinals manager after he was fired by the Marlins but LaRussa resigned. That’s the only reason that he became the Yankees manager.
Girardi was rumored to the Cubs…
The time period CardsNation5 was talking about…
tried giradi with both teams years ago. didnt pan out.
I’d love to see Girardi replace Mathany as the new Cards manager! Also like to see them bring in Matt Holiday as the hitting coach!
Girardi was never going to the Cardinals back then. It was Yankees or Cubs
I could definitely see Mark Shapiro firing John Gibbons if he thought Girardi would come to Toronto.
I doubt Joe would come to Toronto. The Jays are in bad shape right now and he knows it….by the “draft and develop and not sign bigtime free agent method” Shaprio/Atkins are using, the Jays will be 5 years away from any type of realy competing. My bet is that Joe wants no part of a half deccade rebuild strategy.
The Jays had a payroll clogged with older, expensive players. To a large extent they still do. Tulo, Martin, Estrada, Happ, Morales, Pearce, Smoak, and Donaldson are all on the downhill side of 30 and will account for $115 million in payroll in 2018. Not including Donaldson who I listed above, the Jays have another 5 players that are 30 or older that are in arbitration.
Until they can clear some of the older players and the money they are owed off the roster, they are not going to be signing “bigtime” new players.
Last year would have been the year for the Jays to blow the bank and sign free agents. I called for 2 front line starters, one elite setup reliever, a genuine lead off guy, and a new second baseman. If they had done that in Winter 2016, they would have been playoff bound again in 2017.
Now, becuase they didn’t do that, blow it up.. The Shapiro “we can compete” Kool-aid is nonsense. They “might” get off to a hot start but then end up in the basement again. Gibby will be likely fired and no way Girardi comes to TO, he’s too good and too smart to put up with the “we can compete” nonsense when anyone can see it is just that, nonsense. Girardi could see right through that veil.
Gibbons is a good manager , just not flashy. He is a throwback to the managers of the 1950’s. Toronto does not need the bright lights of Broadway. That mistake in game two of the Cleveland series was a doozy but Joe’s handling of the pitchers in the playoffs was not great.
The other thing I do not understand is why these teams interview a dozen people for a position.
….I hope Bryan Price…. #JustSayin’
Who could they possibly get that’s better. Hopefully it was girardi’s decision not to return and not the Yankees
Nvm the Yankees decided not to bring him back
Right?!!! Who’s available that’s better than Girardi?
According to the standings this year. John Farrell.
Red Sox were expected to be better. No one thought the Yankees would be only two games behind them
According to the standings Dusty Baker. Doesn’t mean he’s really a better manager
Huge mistake not bringing Girardi back. Especially with no obvious replacement. Please stay away from guys like Ausmus or Baker.
My biggest fear is a super young and inexperienced team with a super young and inexperienced manager. If there was a time to change managers, it was 2016, with a rebuild on the horizon.
Fingers crossed they can find the right guy.
And before anyone says that Judge, Sanchez, and co. all now have experience, remember that the Yankees have a wealth of prospects coming up over the next 2 seasons.
Totally agree. I’ll be curious to understand their rationale & hopefully it’s more substantive than “want to head in a new direction.” He had a great demeanor for NY & mostly pulled the right levers – and seemed to have the respect of the players.
The criteria for a manager being successful is now unknown to baseball fans. First Mackanin and now Girardi. Both of these guys were doing very well from any fans perspective and their players whom they managed also back that up.
I don’t have any problems with Girardi myself, but there’s no question that a lot of Yankee fans don’t like his managerial style. Then you pile on top of that the ALDS blunder and how he was heavily booed during introduction in game 3 at the stadium. It was probably the right time for the two sides to part ways.
Again, not a Yankees fan here, but I have to ask… are you referring to the blunder where Girardi managed the team out of a 2-0 deficit to defeat the heavily favored Cleveland Indians?
They shouldn’t have been down 0-2 in the first place
Yes, because the team should have played better instead of waiting until game 3 to show up
You ask me and I think that Francona should of been fired from Cleveland for 2 massive choke jobs in back to back years. Up 3-1 against the Cubs you have to close that deal last year, ok you didn’t. To turn around after going on that massive win streak and to blow a 2-0 lead the following year in the ALDS he should of been joining Baker and Farell unemployed. The Yankees over achieved so unless there was massive personality disputes between Girardi and his players I don’t get this
But they were so whats your point. You are so bitter you do not realize how he overcame that and rallied the team past the mighty Indians in 3 straight elimination games and took Houston to 7 games
Huh? Cleveland was HEAVILY favored, genius…you should at least READ a little before blindly showing everyone your ignorance. And, no I’m not an Indians fan.
No Waz. Why don’t you watch the replay for the game and you will find what Yankee fans were not happy about. Hint-it’s a bit harder than your sarcastic response.
Mackanin was terrible
What talent did he have to manage? You can only get marginal talent to play marginally….Just sayin….
@Brixton Really? As at Sep 10 2017, in the nearly two months since the All-Star break, the Phillies’ offense was one of best in the National League, ranking first in triples (17), second in hits (507) and total bases (835), third in doubles (105) and extra-base hits (185) and tied for fourth in runs (261). Their on-base percentage jumped nearly 30 points compared to the first half of the season — .331, fifth best in the NL — while they boosted their batting average 24 points to .266 — also fifth best. Starting pitching and the bullpen was the big issue. Look at the outfield Altherr, Williams Herrera, and then you have Hoskins at 1b. That’s great talent to start with.
There’s a season for everything, and maybe this was the time, but no one should doubt the contributions that Girardi made.
Acknowledged Gerardi’s contributions.
It was time to move on as everyone here should adapt to.
Hope they hire Al Pedrique as next manager!
I second this. He knows the players and it stays in house
I was thinking the same!! He won MOY for AAA Squad and has managed all the baby bombers already
Huh? Cleveland was HEAVILY favored, genius…you should at least READ a little before blindly showing everyone your ignorance. And, no I’m not an Indians fan.
Very upset as a yankees fan. Didn’t agree with all of his decisions, but He helped this team overachieve every season he’s been here, 3 seasons that stood out to me. 09 winning the title in his the year at the new ballpark . With a bunch of new free agents that had no chemistry yet. 2016 we were in it till the very end despite trading away a-lot of talent. And obviously this year with everything this “rebuilding” team accomplished. He will be missed. Sad day for New York baseball
Also, all those Frankenstein teams from 13 to 15, he got the most out those old and overpriced teams…
Yes, absolutely.
Speaking as a Red Sox fan, I thought he did a frustratingly terrific job of maximizing the potential of some very apparently-underrated teams. I figured their comeback against Cleveland sealed his return to New York but I guess not. I have to imagine he’ll immediately be on the radar for the other managerial openings, right?
Yes, he should be. Nationals should be all over this. As far as I can tell Phillies is the only other position left open. If Nationals don’t botch the negotiations, Girardi should be in DC next season.
or he takes time off again.
Right. Nats have a penchant for insulting their best managerial candidates and seem to have little regard for their managers. Aside from that Girardi would be perfect for that team.
As a Yankee fan I completely agree right you … except about the frustrating part.
Don’t be surprised if someone suddenly gets fired today, too. When a top manager is made available, moves can be made by a team in need of an upgrade.
I can’t get over how silly it sounds to applaud Girardi for the 2009 season in that manner, “with a bunch of free agents that had no chemistry yet”. They spent more that offseason than the rest of baseball combined. I like Girardi as a whole, think the Yankees moving on from him is silly, but wow. Having holes and needs plugged in by top free agents is supposed to be viewed as a difficult task for a manager?!
Well said, pd14.
Agree
I’m truly surprised. To this outsider, it seemed like Girardi was the perfect leader for a possible up-and-coming dynasty (and I’m not a Yankees fan). He always seemed to have the respect of the players and he took a few Yankees teams that weren’t supposed to be contenders (this season is a great example) and got the best of them. Wonder what’s next for Girardi?
I wish we wouldn’t have already signed Snitker again…
I wish we had a GM.
I despise the Yankees, and this latest damn fool move makes me laff laff laff, because how in God’s Name can one justify firing a guy who just led a team from,”…maybe contending if everything breaks right” to within one game of the World Series?
Oh you Yankees and Red Sox, you never stop shooting yourselves in the foot.
Please never stop.
Brand new item at the top of my baseball wish list: the Cards replace Matheny with Girardi…
I am far from a Matheny hater, but I only see a handful of teams that shouldn’t at least check in on Giaradi’s interest and pursue him if the interest is there. The Cardinals are not one of those few teams and he would be an absolute upgrade over Matheny.
Bobby Valentine is available.
so is John Farrell!
That’s probably best for him, or Washington.
so is John Farrell
Hey Tae–So is ” TC” who had little self respect for lobbying his bosses to keep him even though he intimated a year earlier that it was time.
To all the Yankee haters and little crickets who love chirping, read into this on a surface level. This Yankee team is filled with products who have made stops in the minor leagues. The best talent might be players acquired in the 2016 gas-off who are still in AAA.
So look downstream and you will see what the team is doing.
And there is none of your drama here; an
announcement that was respectful. No. Ale believe job to keep Joe hanging on.
Stump Merrill is still alive AND he’s available.
I think they waited till the Red Sox hired a manager
No as soon as Astros won Red Sox announced Cora signing unofficially was just waiting for right time. You aren’t firing Girardi in the alcs
They didn’t “Fire Him”…….they simply “didn’t give him another contract”…..His was expired (sure it’s semantics, but let’s at least be accurate when talking about what happened)
Don’t think all the story is out there yet. At first blush it seems sloppy on the management side, but maybe Girardi was being the recalcitrant one. With his unflappable demeanor, it’s hard to tell.
Who knows, maybe there were battles in behind the scenes Girardi is a pro in all ways, both on and off the field, especially with the New York media circus. Managers/human beings that are as good and professional as him who can do that in the New York “climate” are rare.
Most certainly
Yikes, given the season that just passed and the promise of the immediate (and extended) future this feels like the Buck Showalter Firing Part II.
If so then great things are still to come in Yankee land
only if “Joe Torre” is about to arrive.
“ only if Joe Torre is about to arrive.”
Joe Torre, circa 2017 may be one Johnny Lee Baker, who happens to be available at the present. Could work. Let Rothschild continue handling pitching and add a bench coach who’s current on analytics. Pretty much the same formula as Torre. The Nats and Yanks will have effectively traded managers to the benefit of both.
>Donny Baseball<
WOW I am shocked! I hope Nationals jump on this and sign Joe and don’t lowball him.
Probably not what much of the world had in mind when they felt Girardi would eventually be managing Harper…
Nats need to make this move and quickly. No messing around this time.
Nats sign him for 3 years 15 mil deferred over 20 years
The Lerners will NEVER pay that much for a manager. They love lowball, two-year contracts.
The Nats only paid Dusty $4M in two years, they aren’t gonna pay Girardi $5M per year. Even if Girardi has demonstrated that he is worth that much.
Totally wild prediction:
Dusty Baker to the Yankees.
Oh god no
As I said, it’s one of those: if I had to take a completely wild stab, Dusty seems like a guy Steinbrenner would love.
Dusty would get eaten alive in New York
and he’s horrible with young players, loves his vets
And yet, he makes the playoffs everywhere he goes. Hmm, I wonder why that is.
you or I could have managed the Nats to the playoffs when you consider who they were up against in that division
Which describes almost every team the Yankees field
hiflew: Because he’s had transcendent players every where he has managed? He hasn’t exactly made playoff contenders out of the early 2000s Detroit Tigers.
he’s like 90
One of my favorite managers of all time, I would love to have him in Philly, despite the fact that it isn’t going to happen.
You guys are missing the fait accompli: Mattingly to Yanks and Girardi to Marlins. And I think Farrell goes to CLE as pitching coach for one year and then takes over
Uh, Carl Willis was hired as the pitching coach in Cleveland
I thought that too
Cleveland hired a pitching coach today, You might’ve heard of him… Carl Willis
Amazingly empty statement from the Yankees. Zero rationale for the move.
Compare the perception of the Yankees to their season records under him. He milked everything he had out of every roster given to him. Look at the rebuilding years of the Cubs, Astros, Braves, and Phillies and then look at the Yankees “off years”.
Yankees can Showalter back, I will take Joe Girardi as Manager for the Orioles in 2018
Lol. You’ll be second guessing that in quite possibly 1 game.
I second guess nothing, I can’t stand Showalter.
People can down arrow me all day long, not that I am saying you downed me MB, but even if you did I don’t care
Showalter is a Balloon Head, #Girardi4Orioles2018
Do the Orioles make the playoffs any of the past few years with a different manager?
I’m not completely sure they do.
but why? Because his idiotic GM gives away all their international money, signs bad expensive FAs and can’t build a competent rotation?
Absolutely! The problem is Dan and not Buck, unless we learn information that we currently do not know.
There has been a lot of talk about the disagreement between Buck and Dan, but buck is too good a baseball man to have endorsed any of our major free-agent signings.
Supposedly buck places the premium on defense, so it’s highly unlikely he was willingly throwing Mark Trumbo into the field, and it’s highly unlikely he he wanted to bring in another useless defensive bat-only player in Pedro Alvarez. But Dan prefers offense to defense. I never hear him talk about player defense, only about hitting.
And Buck certainly has no control over Dan waiting until January to get off his fat ass and do anything.
Buck is not perfect, but the blame for the roster must be placed on Dan, at least until we hear information proving otherwise.
…Balloon Head LOL!
Angelos is the real problem in Baltimore. Dan is likely appeasing him. The bat-only mentality predates Duquette by a long, long time. DD was not the reason they gave all that money to Trumbo or Davis. DD lobbied for the Ubaldo signing and got toasted in his lone attempt to add pitching.
Guys stop chirping. It’s a cheap owner syndrome. You national league fans
Living in NYC know It as ” Cheap Wilpon’s”
If that happens… say goodbye to all our pitchers.
Didn’t he take them to the ALCS in a rebuilding year
This might be one of those decisions the team should have made PRIOR to all the other clubs scooping up many of the available coaches
In this game of musical chairs, the Yankees may have just waited themselves into a Acta mistake
So they should’ve made the decision in the middle of the ALCS?
You’re saying they didn’t, merely waiting till now to decide to tell the world?
Look, obviously timing wasn’t on their side going in, but that’s even more reason to act asap. As is, they have needlessly allowed more desired coaches to enter agreements with other clubs before said coaches even knew NY positions were going to be open.
They didn’t want Girardi to end up in BOS or NYM.
I think he takes a year or two off – then ends up with cubs, marlins or angels whichever opens up first
Unless he wants to be a bullpen coach he ain’t going to the cubs. Maybe a front office job but not manager.
Overall I trust Cashman as the GM over Joe as the manager, so I’m sure there’s a replacement the Yankees have in mind. Whether or not he’ll be better than Girardi remains to be seen.
You are 100% correct MB
Lou Pinella!
Joe Torre!
Miller Huggins
They need to just fire the entire staff. Especially Rothschild that dude is an idiot.
Hickey and Farrell should be considered for pitching coach. Not sure about who to replace Joe with but gut feeling it’s mattingly’s time to come back to nyc.
Hickey is going to the cubs no doubt, reuniting with maddon and martinez
Hey Wreck–stay local and focus on the marlins. You have zero idea of the pitching situation
I can’t imagine the stress level of a manager in MLB.
If I was Girardi, I would take at least one season off, travel, spend time away from the game, and get the stress cleared out of my body. Being a manager at that level is a 365-day job. Take some time and rest. There will always be managerial openings, and when the time is right it will be easy to get a new 3-year deal with a new team.
10 years in the New York pressure cooker. Girardi can take a year off to decompress, and then he’ll probably have his choice of Miami, Cincinnati, Atlanta, or Toronto next winter.
Right on Solaris601. I would do the same in his position…
Wow, Girardi won’t stay unemployed for long I bet.
Unless he wants to, which I can completely see.
Cashman…could be next, I suppose. There’s got to be more to this story.
Cashman is the one who recommended Girardi be axed. Don’t think they would take that recommendation seriously if they were just gonna fire Cashman later
I’m getting down-voted whatever I say, but you get the sense that there are things that have not been articulated yet. Some may emerge in the next week or so. Most organizations leak to the local press to justify moves. Cashman hasn’t been renewed yet, so maybe there’s more to his story as well.
As a met fan,I hate the Yankees.Joe Gerardi is a good manager and a class act.I wish him nothing but the best.Would have loved to have him manage the Mets
Sure met met…I guess you need to repeat your name because everyone questions your loyalty.
He won’t be managing the Mets anytime soon. It has zero to do with your new manager.
It has everything due to cheap Wilpon’s, who would ever spend the money and if offered would be rejected by Joe because he would not want to work for cheap owners. He wants to win. Wilpon’s want to skim Mets fans wallets
Just like Farrell and Dusty, this was completely premature and short sighted by the organization. Joe will more than likely finish in the top three for Manager of the Year and he would be just as deserving as Hinch or Molitor, though this certainly adds a sense of bitterness were he to win it. He continually exceeded expectations because let’s be real (and I say this as a Yankees fan) did we fans actually expect them to win in any of the years they overspent on aging stars, or was that just wishful thinking on behalf of ownership and the front office?
Moving forward I say keep it in house and hand it over to Tony Pena. They need a bilingual manager who is familiar with the players, the organization, and the New York media. Also, I know this is a footnote to it, but for the Yankees to be successful they need Sanchez to be successful, and having another former catcher for a manager seems like as good of a bet as any. Plus, I know it was forever ago in baseball years too but I’d cite his success in the WBC (even though that team was a monster to begin with).
Yuge mistake. Wow. I think Joe was brilliant during the rebuild era of 2013-2017, overachieving with bad rosters. Steady hand and direct tie to the Torre era. Hope they keep Larry Rothschild or hire the TB pitching coach Jim hickey. Most of all, keep cashman, he’s been great since the boss passed away.
I know it’s early, but does it seem that Cashman sat on this until Boston hired their guy? Didn’t want to see Joe jump to the Red Sox.
You’re not gonna fire a manager in the middle of the ALCS
In my ideal world, Girardi sits out a year and enjoys some family time. Then after next season, the O’s cut ties with Dan Duquette, move Showalter upstairs into the front office, and hire Girardi to be the manager. I know it’s a pipe dream, but as I said it’s my ideal scenario.
I’d imagine the most likely candidates to replace him are Thomson and Pena. Dark horses being Mattingly (but I haven’t heard of Miami wanting to fire him) and possibly the AAA manager Pedrique.
Overall this is a terrible news. Trying my best to believe in Cashman but this move seems very short sighted
Somebody go reanimate the corpse of Billy Martin…
How about Dallas green?
My guess is Tony Pena or Joe Espada.
The Yankees loss will be the Nationals gain. Best of luck to Girardi.
I just don’t see the Nats paying Joe the money he can get.
agreed.. This is the club that wouldnt pay Bud Black, and instead settled for retread Baker at a lower cost.
Whoever they choose better have some experience…..can’t give the keys to a Ferrari to a teenager. Or can you?
You can, if you want the car to be destroyed…
You can if it was Dale Earnhardt Jr. when he was a teenager.
Perhaps Girardi wants to take some time off and not manage for while. Tens years is a good run, a stressful run in the baseball business especially in New York. I am sorry to see him go, but I trust in the Cashman Kool-Aid. The Yankees will have a good manager in 2018 when all is said and done. Thanks to Joe for all the great years!
I was hoping this were the case but Olney reported that it was Cashman’s recommendation to Steinbrenner to change managers
think jeter and the marlins group moves mattingly to another role and hires girardi?
Marlins job is going to be a no win situation for multiple years. There are many teams that could be a good fit for Joe if he wants it. While none of these jobs are currently open he would be a good fit in Seattle, St Louis, Anaheim. There are others as well but these are just a few of the teams that could use an upgrade (Seattle and St Louis) or a new voice (Anaheim).
I’m not sure Girardi would want to go through the wholesale rebuild that looms on the near horizon in Miami. It will take 4-5 years before they’re competitive.
This is a big mistake. Who do the Yankees hire now, Bobby Valentine?
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present your next Marlins manager, hired by Jeter
Doesn’t affect me in the least, but I don’t like this move. Best of luck to both sides.
Perhaps this is why the Phillies have taken so long to name a manager? Perhaps they were awaiting this decision?
Michael Kay on First Take this morning said that this was no big surprise. He said a rift had started between Brian Cashman and Girardi over the last couple of years. When asked who he thought the next manager might be…he mentioned Tony Pena and also said it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Don Mattingly.
Aaron Boone was also interviewed and discussed how beloved Joe Torre was by the players vs Girardi..an example was Giardis treatment of Gary Sanchez the front office not liking it. Boone reiterated the players respected Girardi there just wasn’t the closeness. Both Kay,Buster Olney,and Boone mentioned David Ross.
They Yankees are crazy to let him go.
Front Office/owners’ egos can make such a mess of things; cf. the Lerners in DC, Loria in Miami, and so many others.
Do you think A-Rod will try his hand at managing? There was a rumor before this season that maybe he would be a player/manager.
Come on MTR… The editing is getting really bad. Typos in articles all the time. This time you said that the mishap was in the ALCS against the Indians??? Come on…… Get it together. I know I am able to view this website for free, but if somebody is getting paid to edit they need to be talked to.
Chill bro, you know what they meant
Bring him to Pittsburgh. I know they just signed hurdle, but hurdle sucks. Can’t manage a pitching staff.
Ding dong the witch is dead! Giradi should have been fired years ago. About time #no more binder garbage!
Can think of several organizations that could use Girardi’s experience and temperament but curious about the front office rationale for the move, as the case in Boston. (Washington’s move seems, in comparison, much more logical and expected.)
As some here have noted, it must be a challenging time to be a manager in MLB. We’ve seen how roles and responsibilities have evolved in recent years. With the still-growing reliance and dependence on analytics, perhaps the manager is just not the key ingredient that was the case a decade or more ago. One of the ongoing discussions around MLB is the shift in the demeanor of players, with the stoic, unemotional reaction a thing of the past, replaced with the effusive and too-often sophomoric behavior of some players whose enthusiasm is similar to that one might see on the neighborhood diamond among pre-teens! Strikes me that a manager today must have a different skill set to deal with young men with inflated egos and bulging wallets who are, more often than not, reminiscent of pre-pubescents with an assortment of asinine handshakes and insane hair styling. As MLB continues to change the game, removing the, dare I say, macho play at home and second, preferring instead regulations and limits to protect the investments on the basepaths on behalf of the owners and investors. At the same time, the Commish juices the ball so that the fundamentals of the game become less important each season. No one knows how to bunt. Commentators remind listeners of the exceptional players who have a two-strike approach. Strikeouts are no longer a characteristic of an undisciplined hitter.
Sure, change is inevitable but perhaps the move in New York, as well as that in Boston, is more accurately a reflection of the changes in the game and the diminishing importance of the manager, reduced to the babysitter of delicate egos of the multimillionaires who parade to the plate to hit another home run.
Just sayin’.
Yup, what you said.
GREAT !!!! As lifelong yankee hater, foolish, dumbass move by cash-man n ol mans kids…..wonderful news! Were on edge of something special….back to square 1…..like 1st day of kindergarten w/big name tags pasted on, complete w/awkward introductions…..”Hi, I’m ur new manager….Wally Backman…..”
This is the guy that the Mariners need. Knows how to mould young talent, get production. Jerry denote servias to bench coach and hire this dude.
Yankees, the Angels would like to trade you Mike Scioscia for a bucket of balls and a bag of sunflower seeds. Full disclosure: Mike still thinks it’s 1999 and is allergic to baseball analytics.
I would laugh so hard if the Yankees hired John Farrell.
Hire John is a smart move
I think the Yanks waited for Boston to get Cora then fire Joe
Another one bites the dust.
If I were the Phillies, I would be calling Girardi and his agent like an stalking ex-girlfriend.
Not thinking Joe will want to go from one rebuild effort to one further back in the process in Philly. I would try to get him if I were Philly but would be surprised if he would take the offer right now.
I would think that would be an ideal situation for Girardi. The Phillies are trending upward and are ready to at least compete this season ahead of next year’s free agent class.
Just not sure he fits with what the Phillies are trying to do. Might be a little too old.
The Phillies are an ideal landing spot for Girardi, but Girardi is a potential nightmare for the Phillies.
Girardi’s personality would dominate the entire Phillies organization up through the ownership. He would have the ability to at any time go over the head of the F.O. and ownership through the media, whether local or national.
I expect the Phillies to rapidly announce their choice for manager as soon as this evening and likely tomorrow.
Somewhere mike scioscia is laughing.
The Angels worst contract isn’t Pujols nor was it Hamilton. It’s Sosh’s. One WS title in 2002 turned into 16 years of,
mostly, underachieving.
Gonna miss you joe. Only reason I stuck with yanks after jeter retired.
Wildcard candidate. AROD?
Hell no
Gutless, bush league cash-man waitin until Bosox & Mets vacancies filled before cutting ties, when Steinbrenner was firing ppl he wasn’t a weasel bout it…..
So are you suggesting Cashman should have fired his manager during the ALCS? Because that’s what he would have needed to do in order to do this before the Sox & Mets filled their positions.
Jerry, you have one job.
Dumb move. This was an amazing season for them. They responded to him. They picked him up after he apologized to them. I’m a redsox fan and I hate the Yankees but I think girardi is a great manager. They were supposed to suck this year
So yeah… take a young team all the way to the NLCS and come one out game away from the World Series gets you fired in today’s MLB… ridiculous!!!
Joe deserves better. I liked he guy from since 2006 when he managed my Marlins and lead them to overcome the little expectations that were placed on a 20 million payroll. He had a rift with management then too. Spends 10 years in NY and a rift occurs with management then too. I get that the front office is responsible for bringing in guys, but it’s ridiculous to let managers go over issues between each other. The team responded to Girardi and they did better than expected… Performance should be the deciding factor!
Joe deserves better. He is a fiery guy, and overall, a great manager. I think he’d Fit well with the Nats. As for the Yanks, I have no idea who they should hire. Dave Martinez maybe? Gabe Kapler? Can’t think of any other attractive options.
Don’t you mean American League? LoL
This is unsettling for a number of reasons. How does this affect a young clubhouse? Who do they bring in? How well will the new manager handle the media?
I thought Girardi should have been AL Manager of the year for a number of years. In the 2016 season, they traded away their best players and still ended up competing for a wild card spot until the last week of the season. In 2017 he took a team projected to go 81-82 on the season and got one game away from a World Series appearance. He made a few blunders and had his flaws but he was consistently solid overall throughout the years. Gonna miss him. Im not sure this was a good time to swap managers but if a great manager takes his place i think the team will be fine.
I think he’d do great with the Nationals. Can’t see him wanting to go to the Phillies and that’s nothing personal just think the Nationals are so close to getting over the hump and he may be able to help get them there.
Phillies are rebuilding, I don’t think Joe would fit
Nationals make sense.
If Arod can shed the ‘it’s about me thing” and keep his off the field behavoir discreet, he might make a good Yanklee manager some day.
The only thing Arod is good at defeating is a drug test, firing Joe n hiring Arod would be the gift that keeps on giving in AL East…..
If Arod can shed the ‘it’s about me thing” and keep his off the field behavoir discreet, he might make a good Yankee manager some day.
As a non-Yankees fan, and from a distance, Girardi seemed like a great manager who kept a team cohesive and motivated despite an environment (New York) that has more pressure, negativity and drama than any other locale in baseball..
Sure he had a ton of quality talent, but so did the Nationals from 2012 – 2016, the Dodgers every year before this one, the Rangers about 5 years ago, the Blue Jays, the Orioles 2 years ago, etc… Yet none of those deeply talented teams won a World Series in the past 10 years, only the Yankees did.
yankees only team to win a ws in 10 years?
cubs hace talented team, won ws.
kc 1 ws win 2 appearances, etc.
Please learn how to read.
hello marlins organization!
Makes no sense. This guy took a team that was universally expected to 4th-last in their division in “rebuilding year” to the playoffs, and went 4-1 in elimination games, falling to HOU in 7 games, 1 game short of the WS, after guiding NY to their 27th title in 2009.
I can’t comment further until I see his replacement. Thanks for everything, Joe.
Like Michael Kay said this morning..there’s been tension building between Joe and the FO for a couple of seasons. Pena has been mentioned by a couple people on ESPN and yes Mattingly. My hope would be Mattingly(of course he’s my favorite modern Yankee player)
I guess the Million dollar question:
Would winning 5 more games have eased those quote unquote tensions!
And the biggest question of them all… Did Sherman get lucky!?
Psych! He said Girardi could leave due to “Family” not FO “tensions
Still sucks tho.
You could kinda catch a vibe of something looming during Joes playoff pressers. Haven’t heard Sherman’s take on things as of yet,but I suppose he’ll rumor a job for Joe. I posted a response to a Cardinal fan about Girardi linked to the Cubs way back after the Marlins job and got dv big time. Joes a Northwestern alum so it was well known at that time the Cubs were rumored and not the Cardinals until the Yanks came calling. Funny how it’s big news in the media but not the anger from them like Bakers firing was…
My guess is Girardi doesn’t manage at all this year.
It looks like Boston isn’t the only overreacting team. How can you not resign this guy. As a Red Sox fan he always seemed to get the most out of his guys and, in my opinion, the Yankees always seemed to overachieve with him at the helm. I’m glad he isn’t coming back as the Yankee skipper. Take a year off Joe see what it looks like a year from now.
This is sorta funny… Doesn’t matter if the comment is pro-Girardi, anti-Girardi or neutral, they’re all getting downvoted… “I don’t like the Girardi hatErs OR supporters, and I sure don’t like those people who are sharing observations!”
As a Yankee fan, I think down-voting in this thread is how people cope with losing a good manager, widely popular in NYY.
That’s my theory!
Typical Classless new york teams making announcements during the world series.
Maybe the NY teams should have waited until you found a brain to make the announcement. Wait, that would have taken a long, long time and would ultimately be unsuccessful in the end.
angry yankees fan. 2003 & 2004 must have been fun for you.
Not really, but the 27 times the Yankees have been World Series Champs have! How about you Mr Bosox?
Can I suggest you curb yourself just long enough to count the number of coaching hires/FO changes announced in the last two days? Then report back to us.
Wildly successful season with a young team that wasn’t expected to be this good yet. Not sure I understand the reason for letting him go. They aren’t going to find anyone better that’s available.
Is someone just going down the comments down voting lol? That’s besides the point though I wanna see a world series losing manager get the ax now. I’m looking at you A.J. and Dave 😉
I keep checking MLBTR to see if the Nationals have hired him yet.
He would be perfect in D.C. Not sure however he would want to work for the meddling Lerners and he wants Maddon Money. And if the Cubs were smart they would ditch the over rated Maddon and bring Girardi home to Cub Land
Yea that over rated manager who won the world series in just his second year
Hire ‘The Wiz’, nobody beats him.
All this girardi talk and I’m just befuddled by all the down votes. Extremely impressive to whoever is orchestrating this. Hats off to ya.
Jeter will sign him if he gets the chance.
I know that Matheny’s managing the Cards but I could see Girardi ending up there…thoughts?
Management deserves Dusty Baker.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Girardi was AL Manager of the year.
And wouldn’t be the first time he was let go (in a sense) following a MotY award.
I called it! You could tell by the fact that he looked like he just didn’t care the last few months of the season. No passion at all. He can go home to Chicago to “recuperate” now since he’s apparently so worn out sitting in the dugout and making lineups.
I’m pretty sure that incredibly accurate assessment of what a manager does will get YOU a lot of consideration for a gig as an MLB manager…
SundownDevil, I agree with you. Joe didn’t look right; it looked like the stress was wearing on him. He needs to take a year off then hit-it-again with a smile.
You called nothing
So when will the Farrell as next Yankees manager rumors start?
If the rumors are true that a lot of players didn’t like him, I can certainly understand the move. But they’ve got a huge job on their hands, to find a manager who can handle a very young and inexperienced team, can handle the circus of New York, and now the pressure of high expectations. The Yankees will be a pick for division winners, and fans especially will expect them to make the World Series in this new manager’s first season.
Adam6710, you nailed it. The only way the Yankees make the world series in 2018 with a new manager is that they hire an already proven elite manager or go on a huge winstreak run. if anyone can pull that off, it is Cashman.
Girardi sits out this year and then takes over the White Sox next year?
That White Sox idea did occur to me as well
Sox fans love RR
I think Girardi did a good job, but he was having problems with the FO. 10 years is a long time to manage one team. The next guy will be somebody the FO can have a work relationship with and will except more imput. Girardi would be a good fit for the Nats.
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Or the Mets
Donnie Baseball
I posted that first thing this morning…
Whoever they hire hopefully they have Yankee ties…
As a Dodger fan I can tell you Mattingly ain’t much as a manager
For what?
So Cashman won the power struggle since its stating he went to the Steinbrenners and recommended not resigning Joe Girardi. So let’s see for the past years so called experts have picked the Yankees to finish 3rd or 4th the past 4 years yet he has exceeded the expectations each and every time playing meaningful games in September even with the rebuilding process last year going into this year. He then takes them to 1 game from reaching the World Series while playing tough against the Indians & Astros the top two teams that were the cream of the crop and people want to crucify him for Game 2 yet forgot there wouldnt have been no Game 2 if he didnt manage the Wild Card Game like no other manager could.
Some want to even say Joe Torre won 4 Chips & took them to 6 World Series whereas Joe Girardi took them to 1 World Series which they won. You can’t compare the rosters that Joe Torre had to those that Joe Girardi inherited with an aging Derek Jeter, CC knee issues, Arods monstrous contract and other veteran players not performing.
Cashman is said via Daily News that he clashed with Joe Girardi in regards to Cashman wanting him to play Chris Carter more but Joe didn’t want too due to the non lack of success but Cashman is big on analytics.
Now the Yankees rid of Girardi with names like Tony Pena, Dusty Baker and others that the pressure would be on them no matter what to not only get the yankees back to the Playoffs but now that manager better lead the Yankees to the World Series otherwise its a bust season because of how far Girardi took them.
One last thing are people not paying attention with Girardi gone if they don’t hire Tony Pena that means the new manager is going to want his own team so there goes our hitting coaches, pitcher coach, tony pena which means Severino will have to learn tutledge from a new pitching coach and Aaron Judge & Sanchez will have to learn from a new batting coach which may impede their progress.
Be careful what you wish for on those that wanted him out…..
Angels.
It’s about winning and when we do not then things like Giradi’s happens… Too bad… I really like the guy…
you had a decade, congrates, hope your next chapter is rewarding
I think in this age of analytics in baseball, managers are being treated somewhat like a commodity. The front office thinks you can put almost anyone in the manager’s position because all their moves are dictated by the data.
I wonder if whoever loses the World Series gets fired.
Or if whoever wins gets fired for not sweeping.
Today it is all about owners & execs wanting the credit for a team’s success. It’s the reason why Joe Torre wasn’t resigned in the Bronx. But teams such as the Sox, Yanks, Mets, Nats and possibly even the Phils will find out good field generals don’t grow on trees. Classless move, Hank & Hal – Daddy would be proud!!!
You’re the one that seems to have daddy issues!!!
Wouldn’t talk with the controversy regarding re-naming YAWKEY WAY!
How’s that working for you these days?
1995; young talent, high hopes, heart breaking playoff loss…1996; new manger wins 4 of the next 5 World Series. 2017; young talent, high hopes, heart breaking loss in the playoffs…2018; let’s hope history can repeat itself.
Man, am I the only person shocked that Girardi managed the Yankees 10 years…time flies.
This move had nothing to do with the won-lost record. I guess we will see after the new hire takes over what attributes Cashman wants. Whoever gets this job has the potential for multiple championships and I believe the Yankee front office already know who is their man.
I guess A-Rod will be in the coach staff. Probably as a Hitting Coach.
Please no!!!!!!!
bad decison by the yankees who do they think they are going to get that will do a better job if the yankees made the world series and won the whole thing i wonder if they would have still fired him
Of course I am shocked by the firing. But in the totality of the last decade did Girardi really do anything amazing in an organization that is always wanting another ring? He was excellent at overachieving with what he was given but all he was given was the doing of Cashman and the scouting department. The Yankees are looking at the next 5 years and I am fine with girardi not being a part of that plan because cashman is. He has done amazing things the last few years with trades and bringing up the rookies. His one blemish might only be elsbury, other than that amazing! You have got to figure they have a plan to hire somebody who will bring the Yankees back to when they were the dynasty of the late 90’s.
I agree, Cashman might just be the best GM in baseball over the last 3 years. As for that Ellsbury signing, I believe I read that Hank & Hal forced that issue and Cashman was against it. Complete speculation on my part but that might be the “told you so” moment that has lead to Hank & Hal letting Cashman do whatever he has wanted to since the Justin Wilson trade which is arguably the start of this entire rebuild.
Well winning a ring and all the playoff appearances are pretty great. You start off by asking “in the totality of the last decade did Girardi really do anything amazing” then you follow it up later with “he has done amazing things the last few years”. Your post is really confusing. Are you even a Yankee fan?
Joe was obviously a great manager. However, I’m tired of this swing-for-the-fences garbage that the entire Yankees lineup insists on doing. It’s great during the season against #3 – #5 pitchers, but in the playoffs you only face #1 & #2 caliber pitchers and great pitching beats long ball hitting most of the time. The Yanks need a coach that fosters a few more Gardner’s and Torreyes’s in the line up so homers by the likes of Judge & Bird actually score more than one run.
Also, I’m sick of guys not bunting on the shift. One or two successful bunts on a shift and they will stop shifting on you.
You just described most of the league…
Well Houston does that too and they might end up winning the World Series.
Yes but Houston doesn’t strike out near as many times as the Yankees. In fact Houston has the fewest strikeouts in all of baseball per game. They also lead the league in OBP while ranking 20th in walks which says to me that they are tougher to get out with two strikes on them. As in they tend to swing for contact deep in counts and not for power.
This swing for the fences issue is alot of the league. The Jays have it, Josh Donaldson put it best. “I get paid [big] to produce runs not hits” Every swing of Josh’s is designed with intention of hitting the ball out of the park and the hits come as a byproduct of the swing. Gibby is definitely a swing for the fences guy Earl Weaver style of manager. Joe has a little of that in him but not as much.
I also see the lack of “small ball” on team development. Many players reach the majors and they don’t know how to even bunt. That’s on the development plan and staff. Jays are terrible at small ball too.
Yeah I get ya. Definitely the way the game is played these days. The occasional small ball wins close games though and keeps the defense honest.