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Latest On Yu Darvish’s Recovery

By Connor Byrne | August 4, 2018 at 7:37pm CDT

Although Cubs president Theo Epstein suggested last month that the team can’t rely on the injured Yu Darvish to finish 2018 on a high note, it appears the right-hander will factor in for Chicago in the coming months as it pursues another World Series title. Darvish, who has been out for over two months with triceps and elbow issues, threw a 55-pitch side session Saturday and then took an optimistic tone when speaking with Bruce Levine of 670 The Score and other reporters.

“Yeah, certainly [this is the best I’ve felt]. I think all my pitches, velocity-wise were up there at the highest and then I was able to follow through with my arm motion,” Darvish said through an interpreter.

Darvish went on to reveal that he dealt with “pain and discomfort” until “about 10 days ago,” when he “switched from treating the elbow to the spine,” continuing: “That triggered a more positive flow. Everything in this whole process is better from the beginning until the end.”

As Levine notes, Darvish wasn’t referring to a new injury to his back or spine. Rather, Levine writes that the hurler “was talking about using more of his whole body in his delivery.”

Now, barring a setback, Darvish could be within three or four days from throwing a simulated game, per Levine. It’s unclear how long it would take Darvish to return to the Cubs thereafter, though it’s not a slam dunk that he will. After all, Darvish already seemed to be on the comeback trail several weeks ago, only to suffer a setback in late June. The 31-year-old hasn’t taken the ball for the Cubs since May 20, when he made one of his best starts with the team. During that game, a win over the Reds, Darvish logged six innings of one-run, two-hit ball, struck out seven and issued three walks.

Starts like the one Darvish posted against the Reds have been atypical this season for him, which wasn’t what he or the Cubs expected when the two sides agreed to a six-year, $126MM guarantee in February. At that point, Darvish was an established star who had stood out with the Rangers and Dodgers. But in his first action with the Cubs, Darvish has endured two DL stints (including one for the flu) and posted a career-worst ERA/FIP/xFIP (4.95/4.87/4.24) over 40 innings and eight starts. He has also issued a personal-high 4.73 walks per nine, somewhat offsetting a typically outstanding strikeout rate (11.03 K/9).

Thanks in part to Darvish’s lack of availability so far, the Cubs made an attempt to bolster their rotation prior to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline by acquiring one of his former Rangers teammates, left-hander Cole Hamels. Like Darvish, Hamels hasn’t been anywhere close to his best this season. However, he did show well in his Cubs debut in a win over the division-rival Pirates this past Wednesday.

Including Hamels’ victory, the Cubs have registered a 64-46 record, giving the back-to-back NL Central champions a 1 1/2-game lead over the Brewers in the division. Some of the Cubs’ success has come on account of lefty swingman Mike Montgomery, who has offered respectable production in Darvish’s absence and relegated another struggling offseason signing, righty Tyler Chatwood, to a bullpen role. Should Darvish return, he’d presumably join Jon Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Jose Quintana and Hamels in the Cubs’ rotation, which means Montgomery would work in relief if the club sticks with a five-man starting staff.

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  1. fasbal1

    7 years ago

    Darvish will not factor in playoff run

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    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      Negatively if nothing else. Why exactly did the Cubs sign this guy again?

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      • mack22 2

        7 years ago

        To make the Dodgers feel better

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  2. xabial

    7 years ago

    Still too early to call Darvish contract bust.

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      Someone here said: [regards to Darvish, FA Pre-signing]

      “The “shelf life” of a SP following TJ surgery is about 6 seasons according to the analytics.”

      Just wanted to try debunk this here.

      This is season-3 for Darvish after having it, and he’s 31. Is there any truth to this? Is this even related to his TJ?

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      • ABCD

        7 years ago

        Well, TJ himself would disagree about “shelf life”. He may end up in the HOF. Hopefully, he lives to see it.

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  3. Tko11

    7 years ago

    The big issue is with medical staffs having poor understanding of how pitching mechanics work. The pain is in the shoulder so automatically they diagnose the site of the pain and while yes an MRI might reveal inflammation in the shoulder the issue typically stems from the back.

    Look at the success Eric Cressey from Boston had with his pitchers and how he works on their mechanics. Young pitchers in high school need Eric Cressey style training to work on their mechanics and scapular movement to prevent future injuries. This is just my observation.

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    • ziIP8

      7 years ago

      Pain was in the elbow area, not shoulder.

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      • Tko11

        7 years ago

        Same thing, majority of the time the cause is not actually at the elbow. Poor mobility of the scapular region=unnecessary strain/tension on the arm.

        Now Darvish is getting his back worked on and seems to be feeling better.

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Shoulder is a lot more serious than elbow.

          Just look at shoulder surgery for pitchers (Bankart tear caused by the dislocation of the shoulder(Nelson), or SLAP tears(Pineda) ALOT more serious than TJ/elbow

          Not all Pitcher injury is equal. You better be praying any prospective Pitcher injury is never shoulder. (In this case, it isn’t)

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  4. ChiSoxCity

    7 years ago

    Darbish is shot. He may have a few elite starts left in him, but I see him retiring long before his contract expires.

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    • mike127

      7 years ago

      Thank you Dr. ChiSox. Your assessment is perfect news for Cubs fans. He gets his few elite starts, the Cubs win another World Series and then he retires to open more payroll for yet another run. It’s always refreshing when Sox fans are rooting for the Cubs! ;).

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    • michaelw

      7 years ago

      So says the loser swore Sox fan. I be swore too if my team was trash. Will always be trash and has a drunk for an announcer. Old drunk Hawk and broke @$$ Pippen be sitting in Hombolt park drinking Boon farm wine selling autographs for $5.

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      • Priggs89

        7 years ago

        Hawk isn’t the Sox announcer anymore…

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      • ABCD

        7 years ago

        Says the guy who writes like Drunk Uncle.

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      • mike127

        7 years ago

        Let’s leave Hawk out of this—-he only announces Sunday home games. However, his very last game behind the mike will be the second to last Sunday of the season against—yep, the Cubs. As a Chicagoan I know Hawk is famous for saying absolutely NOTHING when things are going poorly for the Sox—absolute silence. Although it is a longshot because the division should be fairly close, can you imagine Hawk in the booth watching the Cubs beat the Sox on that last Sunday at home for Sox something like 12-2 and the Cubs clinching the division on that day????? The Cubs did clinch the division in St. Louis last season. Who knows. But, really he only announces a couple handful of games a year…and what up with he Pippen hate?

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    • Djones246890

      7 years ago

      As soon as I see comments from people with anything regarding “White Sox,” “Cardinals,” or “Brewers,” in their name, I immediately stop reading. It’s basically always just wishful thinking and trolling, all roles into one.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        7 years ago

        Look, I understand Cubs fans are infamously thin skinned, overly emotional, and insanely insecure about their club. I get it.

        Fragile sensibilities aside, what is “wishful thinking” about a pitcher who’s been on the DL more times than I can count the last 4-5 seasons? He held out for a large sum of money, and he can’t pitch. That’s bad for your club, and you should be more than a little concerned. Getting to the WS is tough, you’ll need a healthy Darvish in order to win it all.

        Now I understand you guys hate “city dwellers,” which, lets face it, White Sox fans are REAL Chicagoans, not transplanted, chardonnay-and-cheese-eating suburbanites who struggle to understand the nuances of the game. Be that as it may, my original comments regarding Darvish were in no way irrational or critical of the Cubs, so get a grip.

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        • capnfatback

          7 years ago

          Good gravy, I love posts that exemplify the very vices they accuse others of perpetrating.

          “Fragile sensibilities” indeed.

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        • Gavin B

          7 years ago

          You make no sense. I can’t remeber the last time the cubs had 19000 for a game ahahaha

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        • adkuchan

          7 years ago

          Apparently there are only about 16,000 “Real Chicagoans” because they can’t get more than that in the stadium.

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    • axisofhonor25

      7 years ago

      I’m a white sox fan as well, yes our team is trash at the moment. Just need to acknowledge that. On another note, just have to say that it’s too early to give up on Darvish. Yeah the guy hasn’t been able to stay on the field this year, but he’s a class act, and he has been working diligently to rehab. When your bread and butter is your elbow and shoulder to get you through pitching I would want to take my time too to rehab my arm. He comes back in September who does help the Cubs win a few starts and give them depth for the playoffs. I’d say rehab as long he needs to.

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      • rondon

        7 years ago

        Cub fan here. The White Sox may be a mess right now, but they remind me of the Cubs 4 years ago. They have a ton of talent on the farm (and on the ML roster), and with the right leadership, they’re gonna be very good in the not too distant future.

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        • mike127

          7 years ago

          Stop with the “when the Cubs were a mess four years ago” stuff. When the Cubs were that mess, the White Sox were drafting Rodin ahead of Schwarber and Fulmer ahead of Happ. When the Cubs were in that mess the Sox were still worse than them. People seem forget that. The Sox have been rebuilding just as long as the Cubs did already.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          What have Scwarber and Happ done?When is the last time the Cubs drafted a future HOF pitcher?

          The Sox are rebuilding beautifully. In a few years, they’ll be locked, loaded and ready to rock. Until then, enjoy the ride Cubs fans, I’m pulling for you.

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        • ABCD

          7 years ago

          Rodon was a pretty good pick. But I see what you’re saying. If Reinsdorf wasn’t so loyal, Hahn would be out the door if things don’t turnaround in a couple of years.

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        • jasonpen

          7 years ago

          “What has Schwarber done?”…

          Well, how about coming back within the same season in which he tore major ligaments in his knee, and then playing a major role in helping his team win their first WS in 108 years…
          Is that good enough?

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  5. Mikel Grady

    7 years ago

    Good news . Let’s go Darvish

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    • CubsRule08

      7 years ago

      Agreed.

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  6. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    Yu who?

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  7. ABCD

    7 years ago

    I would have been okay with Monty as a fourth starter during a playoff series. He’s been that good. But he definitely makes the Cubs stronger coming out of the pen.

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    • Priggs89

      7 years ago

      He really hasn’t been that good. He had 4 really good starts in a row, and then 5 of his last 7 have been mediocre to really bad. I guess if your other option is Chatwood though, Montgomery looks great.

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      • ABCD

        7 years ago

        He’s arguably been better than Hendricks and Quintana this year, which doesn’t say much for the Cubs starters this season but you roll with what you got. And I do like the Hamels pickup.

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    • ChiSoxCity

      7 years ago

      Monty wouldn’t make it past the 1st inning against the Red Sox, Astros or Yankees. He’s a long reliever who eats innings. You don’t ever want a guy like that on the mound against elite teams if you can help it. Even Hendricks is dog meat against those lineups. Your only real chance is to roll with Lester, Darvish (if healthy), Hamels and Quintana (if focused and pissed off).

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      • Ry.the.Stunner

        7 years ago

        Hendricks is having a down season, but he still has the 2nd best career ERA amongst active MLB starters with at least 100 starts, behind only Kershaw.. He also has an excellent playoff history.

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      • ABCD

        7 years ago

        Not really shaking over the Big 3 you mentioned. Chances are the Indians or A’s make the World Series. Maybe the Cubs lose the Wild Card game. Maybe Monty gets the final out again. I don’t know but it will be fun to watch.

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      • Gavin B

        7 years ago

        Yes I know because we all forget about how bad Hendricks is in the playoffs right. Oh my bad I forgot that he was A ABSOLUTE STUD in the World Series only 2 years ago. Your seriously pathetic.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          2 years ago? lol

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  8. reneaguerra

    7 years ago

    You could called us for advice on this signing, we would’ve said “give him 126 million Cubbies.. he’ll be worth every penny!”
    Sincerely
    Dodger Fans

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    • madmanTX

      7 years ago

      You’re the same guys who said you fleeced the Rangers in that trade. Worked out great in the World Series, huh?

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  9. reneaguerra

    7 years ago

    Oh 1 more thing, nobody & I mean nobody retires when their employer guarantees them 21 million dollars a year if they don’t retire!’
    * don’t bring up Fielder he’s still getting paid

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    • ChiSoxCity

      7 years ago

      He’s already said he would retire and go back to Japan if he couldn’t pitch at this level.

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      • reneaguerra

        7 years ago

        So easy to say when it’s not you owed 105 million the next 5 years.

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  10. desertbull

    7 years ago

    LOL at all of the internet GM’s and Orthopedic surgeons.

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    • reneaguerra

      7 years ago

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      • reneaguerra

        7 years ago

        Agree, out of touch with reality & never played a game above LL in their life

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      “If it’s beyond my comprehension… or interest, Let’s make fun of the people.”

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  11. madmanTX

    7 years ago

    If history repeats itself, Yu will come back and pitch himself into a finger blister.

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  12. chound

    7 years ago

    This is why teams like the Mariners, Braves, Padres and so on need to thank the large market clubs for protecting them from themselves.

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    • rivera42

      7 years ago

      They couldn’t protect the Padres from Hosmer. What a disastrous and predictable signing.

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      • all in ad

        7 years ago

        Myers signing was worse. At least hos is a good clubhouse guy…Myers took the $ and then says publicly….I didn’t want to be the face of the franchise. He is dumb…. I have been around him….close up @ spring training….dumb. He told a sd radio guy….best Mexican food is in NC!!!! They have to move this…my foot hurts….wimp!

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  13. frank_costanza

    7 years ago

    Jake Arrieta: 3.32 era in 119.1 IP

    Yu Darvish: 4.95 era in 40 IP

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    • rondon

      7 years ago

      Gee, I wish you would’ve shared this with Theo last winter, captain hindsight..

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      • frank_costanza

        7 years ago

        Meh. There were risks involved with both. Both had declining numbers, but Yu’s decline coupled with his injury concerns made Arrieta the better option for me. Especially at only 3 years, the Phillies to this point got a great deal.

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  14. all in ad

    7 years ago

    His shoulder or elbow are not the issue. Is there a med that relieves the choking around the neck in playoff games? Jed Hoyer is smarter than giving that guy all that money. I guess Cubs are making too much…can afford a few waste moves.

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  15. Strauss

    7 years ago

    Overpaid bum

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  16. imgman09

    7 years ago

    Broken Glass

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  17. okiguess

    7 years ago

    On the bright side, the Cubs still have 5 more years of Jason Heyward!!

    Reply
  18. okiguess

    7 years ago

    Jake Arrieta – 9 & 6, 3.11 ERA, 127 IP – 3 years, $75 million

    Thanks Cubs!!

    Reply
  19. okiguess

    7 years ago

    Not to worry Cubs – Yu’s next 5 years will fly by. On the bright side – Darvish and Heyward both come off your books in 2023!!

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