9;38pm: Musgrove tells Biertempfel that surgery hasn’t been ruled out, adding that he’ll know more after his six-week recovery period.
8:37pm: The Pirates announced that they’ve shut down right-hander Joe Musgrove for the season on account of “right side abdominal discomfort.” To be more specific, Musgrove’s dealing with “a stress reaction on the front of his pelvic bone and an abdominal wall muscle strain,” Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic tweets. Musgrove will require six weeks of rest, but he won’t need surgery, the team said (per Biertempfel).
Injuries bookended the season for Musgrove, who didn’t debut until May 25 because of shoulder issues. Those problems aside, it was a successful first year in Pittsburgh for Musgrove. Acquired from the Astros last offseason as part of the teams’ Gerrit Cole blockbuster, the 25-year-old Musgrove made 19 starts in 2018 and pitched to a 4.06 ERA/3.58 FIP with 7.8 K/9, 1.79 BB/9 and a 45.5 percent groundball rate in 115 1/3 innings. Unfortunately for Pittsburgh, none of its other additions from that trade have been as productive as Musgrove this year, which has helped lead to the team’s third straight non-playoff season.
As a result of his output during his first year with the Bucs, Musgrove will surely be part of their rotation plans in 2019 – his final pre-arbitration campaign. Barring trades or signings, each of Musgrove, Jameson Taillon, Chris Archer, Trevor Williams and Ivan Nova look like locks or strong bets for Pittsburgh’s starting staff heading into next season. The group’s depth did take a hit earlier this week, though, as righty Chad Kuhl underwent Tommy John surgery and may not return until 2020.
musgrove and moran preformed better than expected. moran might get a few bones for roy voting
think I have the same injury now. it sucks
Here’s an idea, let’s trade Gerrit Cole for a crap prospect package, then 6 months later trade a much better prospect package for an inferior pitcher.
Whats your point??
He’s saying they should of kept Cole if they were going to trade for archer
Well, glad Captain Hindsight isnt our GM or Head of Scouting.
So, control through 2019 is the same as control through 2021? Got it!
Years of control are only as good as the player(s) they belong to. The Padres control Eric Lauer even longer than the Pirates control Chris Archer. Don’t see anyone trading Glasnow, Meadows and Baz for him.
Are you really that clueless? Let me guess, you were one of the failures at Opening Day with your “BIG” protest outside PNC? A whopping success it was.
Here’s an idea, let’s try to understand the concept of “windows” and see if we can decipher why a team might trade a guy who won’t be there when they try to contend and then subsequently trade for a guy who will be there when they try to contend..
Here’s an idea: let’s try to understand, that you don’t shut the “window” when it is wide open.
To those who don’t get it, you don’t proclaim a “Bridge season” after 98 wins, especially if “season” then suddenly turning into “seasons’
Here’s an idea: lets live in the present. That was 2 years ago. And in hindsight, sure, the correct moves were admittedly not made. However, before a comment-first mode, get an idea of the current needs, sum of the parts moved in both directions, and the timing and reasons for these moves.
And by the way….you do realize you are COMPLETELY contradicting yourself with your reference to a current window, correct? Maybe if your original message intent was not merely to criticize for past mistakes, you would see that. Nothing like beating a dead horse…
According to you their window is wide open. You said trading Cole makes them better now. Then again you also said the Pirates had to trade for Ivan Nova in order to outbid everyone else for him in free agency LOL
Please dont comment again. You are clueless. You have NO idea or even a suspicion of an idea about valuing anything baseball.
What are you a moderator or something? Take a seat.
I said their window would start in 2019 and that this was an audition year before last year and all this year, even when it seemed they were contending.
How many wins did they have last year with Cole? How many did they win this year?
Oh, and that’s right, you are the genius who couldn’t understand that a team could buy and sell at the same time. Most people with functioning synapses can process it.
They sold on Melancon and won that deal handily.
They bought on Nova and won that deal as well.
I know it’s not binary enough for your mind, but…
Cole was controlled for 2019 you braindead twerp! He could have contributed to their window.
Let’s be honest, they won more games this year despite losing Cole, not because of losing Cole.
No they can’t buy and sell at the same time. And how the eff did they win the Nova deal!? Apparently he was traded for two PTBNL’s. I dunno who the PTBNL’s were so it probably doesn’t make much of a difference but they couldn’t have done much worse than becoming a free agent at the end of the season and hurting the Pirates’ draft position as they fail to make the playoffs that year. The fact that they were able to sign Nova doesn’t justify the trade at all because they just outbid everyone else for him. He would have signed with them even if they hadn’t traded for him.
Whats the matter little boy? You get hammered and you press report? Reality stings, doesnt it?
Learn it from your idol Mark Madden? Caller gets best of him and he mutes the reality?
Get a clue. You were owned.
No, I don’t report people, no you do not have the ability to “hammer” anybody and no I don’t know or care who Mark Madden is.
PS: I know how to downvote other people’s comments too.
Update: The PTBNL’s were Tito Polo and Stephen Tarpley. So still a loss for the Pirates but not a big one.
You just proved my point. You are an absolute joke. Absolute.
Lol. Best part…you cant even tell why
I did no such thing. What would you rather have: Polo, Tarpley and Nova or just Nova?
Pirates didn’t do as bad as I thought they might in that Gerrit Cole trade.
Weak schedule and inter-league games against weakest division in the majors obviously helped them. They are worse than it seems to be.
Darth, you might want to check the Bucs collective W/L against Cubs Cards & Brewers. Unfortunately the Bucs season went to die against the Dbacks, Nats & Phillies (3-18 I believe) all teams that now FWIW are behind them in the WC.
Weak schedule? They play most of their games against the national league central,which is sending 3 teams to the playoffs? What other division is sending 3 teams to the playoffs? None.
You cant argue with someone who is completely in capable of logical thought.
There is a group of “Never this Ownership” Pittsburgers that will never be supportive of any trade. The tens of thousands of them that signed a letter demanding that the team be sold deserve to get their wish. New owners would and should move the team to a more appreciative city.
Guess this writer thinks Moran ain’t much of a player.
Cole was leaving. They probably waited a year too long but when you have someone with his talent, especially in a small market, you hang on as long as possible. Pirates hadn’t had a 3rd baseman in their system and needed another rotation arm. Plus they took a ticket on an outfielder. Sexy? No. But Cole was being sold low (again you hang on as long as you can). The only issue I see is optics. Archer was about in the same boat (except he has more control) as Cole but received a lot more in return. Of course, fans always overvalue homegrown talent. Always. So it looks even worse. All I’m trying to say is, the FO has maneuvered the shift from Cutch era pretty decently. They’ve opened another window.
4th guy in the deal has shown moments of being a quality late inning pen guy. Also has shown some moments of giving up HR balls. If he, Felix, or Martin turn out, this ends up being a quality return.
Mendoza Line 215
Fourth guy in the deal is horrid.He looked like a little leaguer today.He is a bum.
The Pirates got quantity for quality.
Cole had not done much the last two years so they were selling low.He was only a major injury away from being worth nothing.
Musgrove and Moran are decent ball players for sure,but Martin flamed out in AAA.Perhaps he will come around.
Hindsight is always 20-20,but at this point I think that the Astros were accurate in their assessment of what they had,and more than happy with what they got.