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Dodgers, Indians Have Reportedly Discussed Trade Scenarios Involving Corey Kluber

By Steve Adams | November 29, 2018 at 9:26pm CDT

The Indians’ top three starters have seen their names hit the rumor mill this winter, and MLB.com’s Jon Morosi writes that the Dodgers are among the teams who’ve discussed various trade concepts with Cleveland in the past few days. Specifically, one iteration involves both Corey Kluber and Yasiel Puig, per Morosi, though it’s clear that there are still some gaps to be filled in with regard to that specific package, as there’s no logical scenario in which Puig is any sort of centerpiece to a Kluber trade.

In fact, while the Indians have obvious outfield needs, it’s difficult to see a player as expensive as Puig being a prime target to fill that need. The reported willingness to listen to offers on Kluber and others seemed to stem from a desire to create payroll flexibility and add controllable young talent. Puig checks neither of those boxes and is a clear downgrade from Kluber in terms of overall value. While Kluber will earn $17MM next season, Puig is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $11.3MM himself. Shedding a mere $6MM or so in payroll wouldn’t be of that much benefit to Cleveland unless the Dodgers were to add significant pre-arbitration talent and/or take on some additional money in return.

Morosi writes that the Dodgers would likely be willing to part with lefty Alex Wood and pitching prospect Yadier Alvarez, but that pairing, again, presents issues. Namely, Wood is projected to earn $9MM in arbitration and, like Puig, is a free agent next winter. He’d be a fine one-year replacement for Kluber, but it’s the idea of moving Kluber to acquire a pair of expensive veterans who have just one season of team control remaining isn’t logical on its surface, unless there are other moving parts at play.

Alvarez, meanwhile, was touted as a mega-prospect when he signed for $16MM out of Cuba (plus a matching $16MM luxury tax penalty), but he’s yet to top 100 innings in any of his three seasons in the Dodgers’ minor league ranks. Beyond that, the 2018 campaign was far and away his worst since signing; in 48 1/3 innings at the Double-A level, Alvarez posted a 4.66 ERA with 52 strikeouts against an alarming total of 43 walks. There’s still ample time for the 22-year-old to realize his potential, but he’s not the type of young player who’d headline a package for one of the game’s elite pitchers.

The Dodgers do have the type of young talent that Cleveland would covet in any deal involving Kluber, of course, and it seems likely that any talks centering around him, Carlos Carrasco or Trevor Bauer have involved several names. But a deal including any of Puig, Wood or Alvarez would require the addition of some prominent young, controllable players in order to sufficiently pique Cleveland’s interest. Furthermore, it’s hard to envision a scenario where Cleveland adds the salary requirements that would come with both Puig and Wood in the same deal without some additional financial considerations coming into play.

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  1. Yanks2

    7 years ago

    Kluber for Sonny Gray, Clint Frazier, Greg Bird, and Aroldis Chapman

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    • Joe Kerr

      7 years ago

      awful

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      • Perksy

        7 years ago

        That’s a crappy deal. I’m a Yankee fan and wouldn’t offer that. We’re talking Kluber, a top 3 pitcher in the game. 33 starts every year at a reasonable contract. I think you have to start with Florial and Andujar to make it realistic.

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        • Slevin

          7 years ago

          Don’t you see this is just a failed trolling attempt.

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    • braves25

      7 years ago

      Why would the Yankees trade Chapman?

      Why would the Indians want Gray or Bird? Also Feazier doesn’t have any value due to the concussion issue.

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      • 24TheKid

        7 years ago

        Clearly the would trade Chapman so they can flip Elsburry for Díaz and Seguras terrible contract.

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    • debubba

      7 years ago

      Did you read the article? The only piece that would benefit their roster in this trade is Chapman, but he is owed way too much money. Don’t need pitching, Frazier is in concussion protocol with no end in sight and we already have two first basemen.

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    • evilempire28

      7 years ago

      Start with Andujar. Add Florial and then you can add Frazier.

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    • STLCards33

      7 years ago

      Lmao what

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 years ago

      Lmao

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    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      Not interested in a pitcher with one year of control, a player with concussion problems, and a first baseman that can’t hit. To get a two time Cy Young winner you have to give up something of value not some of your leftovers.

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    • tedwilliamzfrozenhead

      7 years ago

      lol Gray

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  2. debubba

    7 years ago

    Any conversation about Kluber, bauer, or carrasco needs to have Verdugo in it.

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    • Falsehope

      7 years ago

      The dodgers do need to make a decision when it comes to Verdugo. Play him or trade him. I’ve always been pretty partial to Puig. Seems every time the dodgers engage in any coverastion about a trade, Puig is always somehow involved.

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      And it probably will. Dodgers have a glut of OF.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      7 years ago

      Absolutely needs to include Verdugo, just to start.

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      • imindless

        7 years ago

        Nah you get verdugo or puig not both. Wood essentially replaces kluber you get a young high upside arm and either a proven talent in puig or again a high upside in verdugo.

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        • junkmale

          7 years ago

          Puig is another way overrated player. One good postseason performance somehow offsets years of average play, sloppy outfielding, and a primadonna attitude.

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        • corey5kersh22

          7 years ago

          His 2017 season was pretty damn good too

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        • tarheels23

          7 years ago

          Puig has got best arm in outfield,in all of baseball,and he is not overated

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        • em650r

          7 years ago

          Obviously the guy said overrated hasn’t seen a toss from Right to 3rd

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        • Mattimeo09

          7 years ago

          I don’t care how well Puig plays, his ego is ridiculous.

          Not interested.

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Great, a great arm, so the 10 assists in a 162 game season means he’s worth a perennial Cy Young candidate despite the baggage…

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        • kidco

          7 years ago

          best arm in baseball belongs to Aaron Hicks. who threw 105.5 mph throw to nail player at plate. Puig is not even close.

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        • Waz1

          7 years ago

          Why would Cleveland want Puig, a player who becomes a free agent in a year?

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Exactly, and they’ve always stayed clear of players with his type of personality/baggage.

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        • beyou02215

          7 years ago

          Puig has 1 year of control left. Need to include a lot more to land Kluber. A lot.

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        • Yelsnit

          7 years ago

          You have no idea what you’re talking about. Sloppy Play? Obviously, you never watched him play. Who says he is a cancer in the clubhouse? Sources? Please, enlighten us on how you know all of this.

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        • Yelsnit

          7 years ago

          Doesn’t matter if you’re interested or not. You don’t make the decisions.

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        • Tomahawktake

          7 years ago

          Puig is dugout cancer

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          Like Albert Belle and Manny Ramirez, for example?

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        • marijuasher

          7 years ago

          There are many sloppier outfielders than Puig. And there are many more average players than Puig. Primadonna attitude is basically what people who hate Puig say about Puig.

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        • marijuasher

          7 years ago

          I love the anonymous character assassination.

          The closest you’ve been to a dugout is with your binoculars.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          Puig is a hellava player, but he isn’t Albert Belle or Manny Ramirez. Remind yourself about just how good those two were by checking out their stats. The Indians stuff was (mostly) pre-steroids, too – at least for the them. Not that they were beyond cheating.

          Albert Belle was the single most fearsome hitter I have ever seen. I would rather face Trout than Belle in his prime. His prime didn’t last very long, but ohmygawd was he great.

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        • sportsnut969

          7 years ago

          Any Kluber trade starts with Alex Verdugo and Keibert Ruiz to start
          anything less than these 2 to headline the top of a package for Kluber would be a Epic failure by the Indians front office Kluber was a finalist for the Cy Young Award 5 times and a 2 Time Winner Kluber is also signed to a 3 year team friendly contract for whoever gets him.

          The only way the Indians would end up with Puig is if the Dodgers pick up the majority of his contract so they could flip him to another team plus he is on his last year then he will be a free agent so why would the Indians be interested in a 1 year guy same goes for Alex Wood another guy who will be a free agent after the 2019 season.

          Puig is not a guy I want around Lindor or Ramirez or any of the Indians young player he is not a example he is a problem 9 days out of ten for every time he throws a guy out at the plate there is the next time he over runs the ball or constantly over throws the cut off man.

          so just no thanks on Puig

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        • imindless

          7 years ago

          Thankfully you are not in charge. You also fail to mention klubers bum knee and postseason era of 10.56 since 2016. Puig has played well in playoffs last two years and has a reasonable 9 million dollar deal for next year. From indians standpoint they want major league level talent because they are close to competing. I have also read they are intrested in wood (again proven starter) and ross stripling. Again all this is being reported by marosi and rosenthal….i think a puig,strippling and wood plus a alvarez is enough to get it done. Indians get everyday outfielder a set up man/starter a quality 3 starter and a high upside arm for there minors while shave 3 million off. Good deal.

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          By the way, I thought the Dodgers liked pitchers who stink in the postseason. Didn’t they just re-up with Kershaw? He was the worst starter the Red Sox saw in the WS.

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        • hockeyjohn

          7 years ago

          The Indians front office will not trade 3 years of Kluber for assorted players with only 1 year of control. Your dreaming if you think that package is a good deal for the Indians.

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        • larry48

          7 years ago

          trade Toles, Muncy ,alex wood, Alverez and Low level pitcher 0r 2 for Kruber. 2 ML with low salary and lots of control 3 others not on ML roster yet.

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        • hockeyjohn

          7 years ago

          Kluber is a 2 time Cy Young winner, A trade for him should include at least one high end piece or more, None of the pieces above fit this category. If I were the Indians I would hang up the phone..

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          You don’t get an ace like Kluber for a Pupu platter of spare parts like you have listed. You’d better come with elite prospects to obtain a guy like that. Think what the Red Sox gave up for Sale as an example.

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    • WestCoastSoxFan

      7 years ago

      These Kluber scenarios make much more sense when Bellinger is in the deal going the other way.

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      • sleepyfloyd

        7 years ago

        @westcoastsoxfan

        What dream world are you in that you see the Dodgers trading one of their youngest stars?

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        • jleve618

          7 years ago

          Youngest stars who doesn’t bat against same handed pitching in the playoffs…

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        • hockeyjohn

          7 years ago

          What dream world are you in in that the Indians will trade a two time Cy Young award winner with three years of control for Puig and Wood – Two players with only one year of control and too costly for the Indians.
          The Dodgers will have to give something that will be painful to get Kluber. They will only trade a pitcher if it helps the Indians in 2019 nds into the future,. .

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        • screwball8

          7 years ago

          Hockey John is right.. what the dodgers give up is gonna have to be painful.

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          The same dream world where Yasiel Puig gets you Corey Kluber, perhaps?

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        • fieldsj2

          7 years ago

          If they want Kluber, It’s gonna take more than a first baseman who needs platooned at this point. Your talking about one of the best SP in baseball.

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          Exactly. You don’t acquire Kluber for spare parts. I would imagine it takes a similar haul to what the White Sox got for Sale. Kluber also has 3 years left on his deal at below-market dollars. You think Puig and Alex Wood get it done? You don’t think anyone else can top that?

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        • imindless

          7 years ago

          When you see klubers era in postseason is a 10.56 and he has a bum right knee and is 33 you begin to see why he is the guy you move. Futhermore if you add puig,wood and strippling together war wise they surpass what kluber alone can provide. Doubt many teams can offer major league proven level talent.

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          Bum knee? You have to be trolling here. He’s pitched over 200 innings 5 years in a row. There can’t be more than a few guys in baseball who can say the same. He’s also finished top-10 for the Cy Young 5 years in a row(winning 2). He’s finished in the top-3 for three years in a row. If you stick him in the NL West he would absolutely dominate. Oh, did I mention he has one of the best contracts in baseball? You need a Chris Sale-esque package to get Kluber. Puig, Wood and Stripling isn’t close to that.

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        • imindless

          7 years ago

          Funny everyone keeps saying that kluber should require sale type package despite underwhelming postseason numbers and being way older….also how did white sox trade work out for white sox?! They got fleeced, trading for major league talent is the only sure fire way to get better without taking a hit. Look how many “top” prospect stink or flame out lol. This deal works for so many reason and kluber is the guy because of his age you move. Carrasco and bauer both have 2/3 more years of controll and are much younger in baseball years. With brantley likely gone getting puig is a great replacement at half the cost. 11 era in postseason since 2016. Dodgers package is stronger than a bunch of what ifs

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          You might be right about the prospects CWS got for Sale, but 1 year of Puig and Wood doesn’t really seem to help Cleveland very much. It certainly doesn’t justify giving up there ace. I think Bellinger needs to be in that deal. Then you are onto something. CLE is going to want a bunch of years of control in whatever they get back. They can get that elsewhere if not from the Dodgers.

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          BTW…you are looking at a VERY small sample size for Kluber’s postseason struggles(3 starts). His career ERA in the playoffs is below 4.00. I guess I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t see this guy is an ace.

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  3. jorge78

    7 years ago

    That’s crazy talk…..

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    • debubba

      7 years ago

      Crazy? Elaborate. Any top five pitcher in the game with his team-friendly salary and three years of control should include the best player in a farm system.

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  4. Thronson5

    7 years ago

    I’ll believe it when I see it. Just don’t see the Dodgers going out and actually trading for a starter this good. And I hate the idea of them trying to trade Puig. The guys clutch in the playoffs and he plays with heart and passion, unlike a lot of other guys, just don’t see many players like Puig anymore and I’d hate to see them get rid of him. If they were opening an outfield spot for Harper I guess that would be cool but I really don’t like the idea of getting rid of the guy and I’m sure they can get Kluber without including Puig. Again, I still don’t even buy it that they’ll pull off a trade like this so I shouldn’t even worry I guess unless it happen. Would be great to get a pitcher like this though, hope they can make it happen. Just don’t give up Puig u less you’re trying to sign Harper as well as adding Kluber.

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    • imindless

      7 years ago

      No one likes puig, lmao he is a cancer and will be comanding a lot when he reaches free agency. Would much rather have kluber

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      • marijuasher

        7 years ago

        Anonymous people who claim real people are cancers should, by nature’s law, get cancer themselves.

        Have a fun life.

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          You’re a despicable little nothing!

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      • neoncactus

        7 years ago

        I like Puig and know quite a few others who do. My friend’s son in Little League started licking his bat last year. lol He didn’t seem to be too much of a cancer of their team this past season. And ego? Who would have thought a professional athlete has a huge ego? But Puig would not be nearly enough to get Kluber. Start with Verdugo and keep going.

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      So you want them to get an elite guy like Kluber, but are afraid of trading an above average but not all star level outfielder? The only thing about Puig thats hard to replace is his cannon of an arm.

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      • imindless

        7 years ago

        Why would i keep puig and his drama for just his arm? Id prefer verdugo or even toles over puig. If you can get kluber for puig+ you do it and dont look back.

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        • Thronson5

          7 years ago

          Do you guys even watch the Dodgers play? That guys one of the only guys on that team that plays with the passion that more players need to play with and he’s one of the only guys who actually hits on the team in the playoffs. It’s not about exactly how good he is for me it’s more about the passion and excitement he brings to the team, the hustle..wish more guys were like him. We have some really good prospects, I’d much rather give up the prospects and Joc to get Kluber is possible. If we can get Kluber and we have to trade Puig it wouldn’t break my heart but I’d rather try to get it done without him unless Harper was going to be coming in.

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        • Thronson5

          7 years ago

          You’d prefer Toles over Puig?? WhT are you smoking!? Jesus.

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        • Kenleyfornia74

          7 years ago

          Who on the Dodgers doesn’t play with passion? Freese, Turner, Muncy, Joc, Bellinger, Seager, Kiké all do. Puigs fire hurts him just as much as it helps. If you watch the Dodgers you would know many times in late game ABs he gets jumpy and swings at junk. Dont get me wrong he is a good player. But not a guy they absolutely must keep

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        • hittahomer

          7 years ago

          Braves fan here. Sure seemed to us like everyone on the Dodgers hit well and played with passion in the playoffs. But if you can get Kluber, I wouldn’t think twice to include Puig in the deal.

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        • frankiegxiii

          7 years ago

          Yeah, Puig sucks until he’s on your favorite team

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        • corey5kersh22

          7 years ago

          Exactly.

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        • reneaguerra

          7 years ago

          Boom

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        • sleepyfloyd

          7 years ago

          All the idiots talking about Drama with Puig, are you sure it’s not coming from a tiny bit of racist viewpoint?

          I mean you don’t see him with drugs, hitting women, other illegal activity. Then what is it? Getting in arguments on the field? Yelling in Spanish?

          That’s drama to you?

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        • kidaplus

          7 years ago

          Yes… are you?

          You’re talking about a guy in his prime who’s own agents dumped him. a year before arbitration and two from free agency… that’s a ton of money walk away from..

          That’s as damning as it gets.

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        • rrddbb44

          7 years ago

          TOLES HAHAHA

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        • WestCoastSoxFan

          7 years ago

          He plays with passion, but he’s honestly not that good. And he only has a year left on his current deal. Not that you are getting Kluber for him anyway, but you make that trade in a second if you can.

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        • Harwood

          7 years ago

          Yup, name checks out.

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        • imindless

          7 years ago

          Funny everyone keeps saying that kluber should require sale type package despite underwhelming postseason numbers and being way older….also how did white sox trade work out for white sox?! They got fleeced, trading for major league talent is the only sure fire way to get better without taking a hit. Look how many “top” prospect stink or flame out lol. This deal works for so many reason and kluber is the guy because of his age you move. Carrasco and bauer both have 2/3 more years of controll and are much younger in baseball years. With brantley likely gone getting puig is a great replacement at half the cost.

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        • hockeyjohn

          7 years ago

          You won’t get Kluber for Puig +

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    • reneaguerra

      7 years ago

      Look at his numbers over 6 years, he has never been stellar in the post season. The Dodgers do not care about sentimental value, they will draw 46k per game with or without puig.

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    • imgman09

      7 years ago

      Puig needs hugs,lol

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  5. steven st croix

    7 years ago

    Light package for Kluber. I agree about Vedugo. I would call Houston and ask for Forrest Whitley. Atlanta has the prospects to get him.

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    • Polish Hammer

      7 years ago

      They are NOT calling Houston, a team they need to get through in the playoffs…

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      • Bocephus

        7 years ago

        You have no idea who they will call.

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Only a moron would trade to stack the rotation of a team you need to get through to get what you want.

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  6. braves25

    7 years ago

    Inciarte, Soroka, and Gohara for Kluber

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    • Joe Kerr

      7 years ago

      Seems realistic at least. Maybe add a low level player to it.

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      That isn’t far from what it would take. Interesting.

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      • Mattimeo09

        7 years ago

        Seriously?

        Soroka missed half the season with an injury. Gohara has awful numbers in AAA & MLB. Inciarte hit worse than Alonso and only has 2-3 years of control left.

        If you’re not offering something that hurts, you’re not getting Kluber.

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    • khopper10

      7 years ago

      Not enough

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    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      Inciarte, Riley or Pache, and one of Soroka, Wright, or Toussaint for Kluber.

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    • rrddbb44

      7 years ago

      Need a little more

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  7. Soldierofgod619

    7 years ago

    Klubers return should be similar to what the white sox got for Sale. Both Aces with 3 years of control on a team friendly deal

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    • georgebell 2

      7 years ago

      Yeah, no. Sale is 3 years younger, left handed and had no injuries at the time of the trade.. Kluber is great but started to struggle late last regular season.

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      • Samuel

        7 years ago

        Tell us what injuries Kluber has had.

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        • georgebell 2

          7 years ago

          Corey Kluber gets knee injection, to miss All-Star Game
          espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24088449/corey-kluber-clev…

          Kluber set to start tonight after knee issue
          mlb.com/indians/news/corey-kluber-recovered-from-k…

          May or may not return but Sale did not have issues at the time of trade

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          Your link doesn’t work.

          In the past 5 years Kluber has pitched between 203 and 235 innings.

          He’s fine. As solid as Max Scherzer. Not as dominating. A little younger. Makes less than half Scherzer’s salary.
          –
          Found your new link.

          Kluber almost missed a start in July! Oh, my!!

          lol

          The man pitched 215 innings last year.

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        • georgebell 2

          7 years ago

          lmgtfy.com/?q=2018+COREY+KLUBER+INJURIES

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        • roguesaw

          7 years ago

          si.com/mlb/strike-zone/2014/04/22/chicago-white-so…

          Sale went on the DL as a White Sox with an elbow strain. Wasn’t the year of the trade, but it’s not like the guy never was hurt.

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          lol

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Sat out of an All Star game where starters who usually go 6-7 innings face a killer batting order for one inning and throw their routine so totally out of whack? Yup, definite injury concerns and red flags!!!

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        • georgebell 2

          6 years ago

          The injuries that kept him out for most of the 2019 season

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        • georgebell 2

          6 years ago

          Didn’t work out so well this year

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    • Danny37

      7 years ago

      It would be a little lighter of a return than what the WSox got. Kluber is 32 yo, whereas Sale was 27 at the time he was traded.

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      • Samuel

        7 years ago

        So what.

        Age doesn’t matter. It’s how long the team controls their rights.

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        • Senioreditor

          7 years ago

          Yes age matters….lol

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          Not at all.

          Do you think Sale is a lock to resign with the Red Sox? How much money will they have for him and others to put out a decent team when Betts sets a new salary record? Think Sale won’t consider that?

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        • georgebell 2

          7 years ago

          Are you familiar with aging curves?

          fangraphs.com/blogs/pitcher-aging-curves-introduct…

          You may argue Kluber will defy age related declines but you can be sure it will be baked into any trades made.

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          Wow!

          Hey, I think you’ve got something there. I’ll have to rethink this.

          Max Scherzer is 2 years older the Kluber. The last 2 years the man is simply falling apart. Regressing at an accelerated rate. The Nationals offered to pay 75% of his salary for a middling AA prospect, but all MLB GM’s take instructions from the kids at Fangraphs, so no one is returning Rizzo’s calls.

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        • Danny37

          7 years ago

          Guys like Scherzer are merely the exception to the rule. Best not to take the anomaly as a counterpoint to a majority (hey, Nolan Ryan pitched til 46, anyone can do it!) Kershaw’s the best pitcher this generation has seen and he’s declining after 30. Grienke, Lester, Felix, too.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          Well, I think he is the exception to the rule. I would have no problem keeping him through his contract. There was a rumor that the Indians really want to trade Bauer. He’s much younger. Controllable for two years. Would have been in the Cy Young race last year had he not gotten hit in the leg by a line drive. You can trade for him…..but he’ll cost a lot, too.

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        • kidaplus

          7 years ago

          Sale was 6 mil cheaper and pitching 28,29,30 from the left side compared to 33,34,35 from the right.

          That’s gonna bring back more.

          Still 15 mil a year for a stud like Kluber is a great deal.

          Seriously, in a division where anyone challenges is still a ways off, why do you even own a team if you have to move that?

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        • indiansfan44

          7 years ago

          Age does matter but you also have to remember Kluber was a late bloomer while Sale was a young stud. Yes there is a better chance of regression due to Kluber’s age but he has not had any arm issues during his career. Plus because of Kluber hitting the majors later in his career he only has 100 more innings than Sale did at the time of his trade to Boston. Overall the return should still be comparable but ultimately the determining factor could be if another team jumps in and causes the cost to aquire to rise.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          7 years ago

          In general age does tend to matter in a sense, because we’re still talking about innings tacked on the arm. Obviously they aren’t the same stress, but that’s still mileage. Realistically one thing that often overlooked is working late into the postseason. Kluber carried a decimated rotation on his back in 2016 and ended up racking 250 innings. I think there’s also a part of an argument to be made about the relative market. Sale was the guy on the market. He was hard throwing LH Ace, cheaper, younger, not as taxed with continual playoff runs. Kluber is a bit different. He’s an ace, but he’s potentially not the only guy on the market. Clev is also in a different spot, or their wants, needing mlb ready talent now. Chicago was basically looking for any and all impact talent. Not sure you can look at packages and attempt to compare prospect rankings. Kluber loses just a bit on a couple fronts, especially if an emphasis is on mlb ready now, preferring to churn for cheaper. That’s not to say the package wouldn’t come close or similar. I’m just not sure it’s a great comp just because they have a CY and 3 years control.

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        • Slevin

          7 years ago

          Sammy boy look at all these posts about a Cleveland Indians player. Where’s your outrage bubba?

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        • Flapjax55

          7 years ago

          Hilarious!

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Kluber is also an exception to the rules, he was a very late bloomer and didn’t find himself dominant until his late 20s.

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        • jmchale40

          7 years ago

          So he didn’t throw innings in minors?

          Only ml innings stress the arm?

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        • Polish Hammer

          7 years ago

          Stress on an arm in the minor leagues going 100-160 innings is far less than the 203-235 he’s been tossing in the majors the past 5 years. So yeah, a late bloomer stuck in the minors tossing much less innings did have much less arm fatigue and physical stress than other pitchers that succeeded in the majors at a younger age.

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  8. Jonathan Oldham

    7 years ago

    I like the idea of Kluber and Gomes for Puig, Buehler, And if lucky Verdugo. I know it’s a tough ask, but I would be more okay with that and losing Kluber

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    • braves25

      7 years ago

      No way the Dodgers include Buehler

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    • socalblake

      7 years ago

      Haha. Buehler isn’t going anywhere except to the #1 spot in the Dodger’s rotation.

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    • azmacky

      7 years ago

      Buehler ain’t going nowhere. He’s there #1 above Kershaw. Yes I said it.

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    • WalkerTexasBuehler

      7 years ago

      Even I have to laugh at that. Ridiculous.

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    • kershawsgrandma22

      7 years ago

      Ya right lol the dodgers could get kluber with buhler alone if they wanted too

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    • frankiegxiii

      7 years ago

      No point in trading for Kluber if you’re gonna give up Buehler

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    • juanpaolo

      7 years ago

      None of those guys played for the Dodgers

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  9. WAH1447

    7 years ago

    Kluber and naquin for Ender Inciarte Julio Teheran Luiz Gohara and Travis Dermeritte

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    • debubba

      7 years ago

      You can have Naquin for a Big Gulp.

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      I don’t think we want Teheran. Some of his peripherals are nasty. He’s definitely headed the wrong direction. $11 m, too.

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    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      No way. No interest in Teheran. Riley and Wright with Pache or Inciarte.

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  10. redhaze1

    7 years ago

    Kluber to the Reds for Nick Senzel, Billy Hamilton, Sal Romano, and Shed Long.

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    • NOPelicanFangirl696969

      7 years ago

      Why would the reds trade for kluber…

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      • redhaze1

        7 years ago

        They have to improve their rotation by trading instead of free agents. It is harder to compete for free agents with legit contenders for Cincy.My hope would be to work a trade for one of the Indians starters and Sonny Gray then convince Keuchel to sign.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          While I think it is ridiculous, it is true that both the Indians and the Reds are hesitant to make deals with one another. I’m not sure the Indians want to see Kluber mowing ‘em down in Cincey if that deal goes south.

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    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      Cleveland already has 3 center fielders. We need a corner outfielder. Hamilton is not needed, Romano is also not interesting, Senzel, Winker, Mella, and Hughes would be more interesting as it gives the Indians help in the outfield and the bullpen that should help in 2019 and beyond.

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  11. Vizquel13

    7 years ago

    The Dodgers aren’t getting Kluber without Verdugo and either May or Santana in the deal

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    • sufferforsnakes

      7 years ago

      I like your choices. Shows you understand the Dodgers prospects. I really like Christian Santana, after watching him play at Rancho Cucamonga. Then again, that whole dang team could hit.

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      • Kenleyfornia74

        7 years ago

        I think he meant Dennis Santana. Christan is available in the rule 5 draft

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        • sufferforsnakes

          7 years ago

          Dang, someone should grab him then. Good power stroke and solid D at 3B.

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    • chound

      7 years ago

      That’s about what I’d expect.

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  12. norcalguardiansfan

    7 years ago

    I don’t understand the Puig talk, either. Not that I’d mind it if the Indians got him, but if he is to be included, they almost certainly would ask for Verdigo, also, and that makes no sense for the dodgers.

    I’d love Verdugo, May or Santana, Baez and someone like Ferguson.

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    • Jonathan Oldham

      7 years ago

      Ferguson would be pretty cool. He is from my high school rivals and would enjoy seeing him more often

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    • sufferforsnakes

      7 years ago

      Nice choices. I could live with that return.

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    • corey5kersh22

      7 years ago

      I’d feel more comfortable if the deal was Verdugo, Santana, and Ross stripling

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      • norcalguardiansfan

        7 years ago

        Throw in Baez and we’ve got a deal.

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        • corey5kersh22

          7 years ago

          Pedro Baez? I never thought i’d Say this but I don’t want them to trade him. He was our only lock-down reliever last season (lol). Friedman and Roberts also defended him profusely while he sucked the 3 seasons prior to the last one.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          Ya. I was never sure why LA fans hated him so much. That’s why I want to take him off your hands.

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  13. stretch123

    7 years ago

    Kluber for Verdugo, Wood and Lux

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      Wood doesn’t do us much good. Too costly. We want young, cheap, controllable talent.

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    • jasonthebuc

      7 years ago

      Dodgers won’t trade Lux.He finally broke through last season,and middle infield is the one area that the Dodgers are thin on the farm.

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  14. Z-A 2

    7 years ago

    2 WS appearances in a row, two meltdowns. Basically they’re going to do whatever it takes at this point, trade the farm just win one.

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      Unless they go full Rangers the farm will be fine

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      The Dodgers were defeated by superior teams. It is what it is. Why you gotta insult Astros and Red Sox fans like that?

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      • bruceperdew

        7 years ago

        The Red Sox were the better team, but I don’t think that the Astro were. All the teams in the playoffs this year were complaining about the Astros stealing signs, and the MLB had to increase security to stop them. If they were doing it this year, they were sure as hell doing it last year too.

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        • TheFamousMrKing

          7 years ago

          The Astros were better than Yu Darvish.

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    • em650r

      7 years ago

      Hey at least they made it two years in a row most teams didn’t show up all season.
      This team took out the Dbacks and Rockies to get to first. Played a extra game to take #1
      Took a young Braves a good Brewers team to get to Boston.

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  15. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    Stop with the damn Kluber to Yankees !!!!!
    The Indians are retooling not rebuilding no way they trade him to a team that would be in competition with them come October for a playoff spot/series. Gonna be an NL team

    And no way he is getting moved for Puig they don’t save enough on a deal like that.
    Wood, Verdugo & RP

    And any Brave offer would start with Riley and would have to include Inciarte. Braves don’t match up they would if the tribe was in a rebuild
    I think Bauer will be dealt myself not Kluber.

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    • PinstripedPride

      7 years ago

      I know it’s not Bauer’s decision, but he came out and said today that he doesn’t want to be traded.

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      • Samuel

        7 years ago

        Indians are a class organization. Players like it there. Think Brantley wanted to leave?

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    • Samuel

      7 years ago

      If the Yankees offer that clanky gloved Miguel Andujar as the centerpiece, throw in Estevan Florial and a decent pitching prospect, then Kluber could still go there.

      The Indians are taking a step back in 2019.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      Stop telling people what they can, and can’t do…damn it

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  16. 1988wasalongtimeago

    7 years ago

    If the Dodgers get Kluber don’t worry through Dave Roberts and Rick Honeycutt’s excellent game management skills he will be horrible in no time!

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      It’s no wonder other fan bases can’t stand Dodgers fans.

      Six straight division titles. Back to back WS appearances. High payroll. Big time spenders on the international market. Great farm system. Pretty much got Chris Taylor and Max Muncy for nothing.

      Meanwhile, a team like the Mariners hasn’t even been to the playoff for 17 straight years.

      17. Straight. Years.

      I doubt you’d hang in there half as long as they have.

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      • corey5kersh22

        7 years ago

        The goal for every team is to win the championship. The dodgers are one of the teams where it’s championship or bust. What do you expect dodger fans to do when they don’t?

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  17. bobtillman

    7 years ago

    Not even the diplomat of diplomats Francona wants anything to do with Puig…..and no, Ferris Buhler ain’t goin anywhere either……

    Dodger fans have to realize this one’s gonna hurt, but it’s worth it. Kluber is Cy Young stuff in NL…..Verdugo (who let’s remember has a reputation for being uninspired), May and Lux….I doubt the tribe will settle for anything less……

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    • Brian Meyer

      7 years ago

      CBS reported yesterday that the Indians asked the Braves for Wright-Touki-Pache in exchange for Kluber, so your offer is probably pretty accurate on what it would take from the dodgers.

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      • Samuel

        7 years ago

        Kluber has never had a major injury. Never a problem, pure class. Locked up for 3 years with an AAV of $15.5. You’ve got guys getting $20-25 and more that are not in his orbit.

        And as bob noted, he’d be pitching in the non-DH league.

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      • bobtillman

        7 years ago

        And let’s not forget the Indians win their division next year by just throwing their hats on the field….they can do the Kluber deal, move Carassco to the Braves for that package, and still run away with the division…BTW I think Kyle Wright is going to be HUGE……

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      • doxiedevil

        7 years ago

        Brave fan… someone else take Kluber, that is to much.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          Well…..we can ASK.

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    • Samuel

      7 years ago

      Hey bob;

      It gets nuttier by the hour. I can’t turn away. Rubber necking at the car crash on the other side of the freeway.

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      LOL

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  18. titanic struggle

    7 years ago

    This article…more crap that will slide right off the wall. Keep tryin though, something will stick…

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  19. Samuel

    7 years ago

    As noted by Mr. Adams, this proposed trade makes no sense at all from an Indians viewpoint.

    MLB media is now officially out of control, as reporters and commentators are coming up with screwy scenarios for clicks.

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      Welcome to hot stove season. It’s always been this way. We’re all just a bunch of crazies who are desperate to devour anything baseball-related. lol

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    • Polish Hammer

      7 years ago

      Samuel, I agree, and the return just doesn’t seem like Tribe type of players. They have already stayed clear of guys like Puig and the money/contracts just don’t make sense.

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  20. kershawsgrandma22

    7 years ago

    Kluber for vertigo and puig then the dodgers sign Harper and we can finally win a WS….. hopefully…

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  21. kershawsgrandma22

    7 years ago

    Kershaw, buhler, and Kluber would be nassstttttyyyyyy

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  22. Party like it’s 1988

    7 years ago

    Based on stated wants/needs from the Indians, and their desire for youn controllable talent, I see something like Joc, Verdugo, one of Stripling/Santana/Stewart, and then a younger player to develop like an Alvarez or other young pitcher (but not May if already including a ML ready young pitcher. Maybe broaden it to include Yan Gomes and Wood (more pitching and salary balance while giving the dodgers their temporary solution at catcher…)

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      Actually, this is pretty interesting. I am even ok adding Gomes and getting Wood back. Might work.

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      Brock Stewart doesn’t have much value, if any. He seems more like a DFA candidate than a trade target.

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  23. antsmith7

    7 years ago

    Verdugo and Alvarez for Kluber

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  24. Gocubsgo1986

    7 years ago

    You can do way better Cleveland.

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  25. GarryHarris

    7 years ago

    The Indians need to reestablish the bullpen.

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  26. Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

    7 years ago

    So in terms of Clev/LA they make an extreme amount of sense. You can quibble about the prospects, but nobody really knows how Clev feels/evaluates certain guys, Verdugo is a guy that’s probably org to org feel. He’s a very good prospect, but not an impact guy. We know Clev is a forward thinking org, so Kluber going on 33 with innings building up while also being pushed during post season, so this might be a trade him a year or two sooner as opposed to late. That’s not to say anything about past performance or throwing shade, but it makes sense as to why they’d be willing to move him with the kicker and dearth of SPs.

    With that said, not sure flexibility will be something exactly earned here without expanding the package. If they are trying to compete Puig makes an extreme amount of sense, but not as a headliner obviously requiring some cost controlled mlbers/prospects on top. It also gives the Dodgers that built in excuse when some fans are outraged by Puig being traded, even though he probably wouldn’t have been reupped. I think people seem to forget just how one dimensional corner guys are which is why so many are having trouble on the open market/being devalued.

    The contracts that are tying Clev up this year: EE, Kipnis, Alonso. I find it hard to believe they can move EE without eating a huge chunk.
    Pieces that necessarily fit in LA:Kemp, Wood
    There could be something there in terms of taking on salary for AAV savings and fitting needs. Just seems like they could build a package around Alonso, Kipnis, & Gomes for Kemp & Muncy. Or it’s at least an interesting conversation.

    I’m not going to suggest a 20 player swap that’s not realistic. It feels like there are multiple avenues to accomplish both of their needs. I just find it potentially very interesting.

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  27. thecoffinnail

    7 years ago

    If the Indians are actually serious about trading Kluber I honestly believe the Yankees should make Torres available in a trade for him. Yes, losing him would hurt but if he can be a centerpiece in a deal for a true #1 pitcher then they should go for it. The Yankees have plenty of offense already and there are several quality 2nd basemen on the market this offseason. With the addition of Kluber the Yankees would have arguably the best rotation in baseball if they all stay healthy. Pitching wins the playoffs and the Yankees showed it was their Achilles heel last year.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      Who the hell is gonna play short, and please don’t say Machado.

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      • Polish Hammer

        7 years ago

        Gregorius?

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        • rrddbb44

          7 years ago

          What about the first half of the season?

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  28. ericl

    7 years ago

    That would be an awful trade for the Indians. Kluber is one of the best pitchers in baseball. There has to be a better offer than Puig, Wood & Alvarez for him. They need controllable talent in a return for Kluber. Alvarez is the only one that fits that description in that deal & he has been an underachiever thus far. You have the Phillies, Astros, Yankees & Braves all looking for starting pitching. All four of those organizations have a lot of young talent & could each make a better offer than that one from the Dodgers

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      Nobody said this was the offer.

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  29. IjustloveBaseball

    7 years ago

    The quality of a potential package for Kluber is really difficult to pinpoint.

    On one hand, Kluber has been one of the games elite pitchers over the last 5 seasons. On the other, he’s a guy entering his age 33 season which means a decline could very well begin. Obviously, Kluber could defy the odds and continue to put up eilite numbers, but he’s much more likely to see his production dip at 33 than say, if he was 28.

    However, an added bonus in acquiring Kluber is that if for some reason he completely nosedives (unlikely, but just saying) or suffers a significant arm injury, whoever gets him has all the power with his contract. His deal is essentially 1-year with 18m guaranteed (including the buyout of his 2020 option). Just for reference Klubers options are for 17.5m and 18m, both with 1m buyouts.

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  30. alsolo11

    7 years ago

    Kluber, Kipnis, and Gomes for Puig, Joc, Wood, Yadier Alvarez, Mitchell White, and Will Smith.

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    • MC77

      7 years ago

      Cleveland supposedly needs to cut salary, so attaching a contract to one of their starters would make sense. Kluber and Yonder Alonso for Bellinger, Wood, Joc, and Dustin May. Maybe substitute Dennis Santana or Mitchell White for May. If Cleveland is moving Kluber, they are going to want an established MLB player with multiple years of control coming back. Verdugo isn’t established and the Dodgers were platooning Bellinger in the WS, so I don’t think he is untouchable.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        7 years ago

        So take on money and trade Bellinger? Bellinger isn’t likely to be moved regardless, even less so in this trade. The reason to include Wood would be to lessen the load a bit, otherwise he’d be a NT candidate today.

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        • restingmitchface

          7 years ago

          Yeah, Alex Wood isn’t gonna get non-tendered. I don’t know why some Dodgers fan think this.

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        • MC77

          7 years ago

          How do you think the Dodgers acquire Kluber without giving up proven talent? I did say maybe it’s a lesser prospect than May in Santana or White. Kluber has 2 Cy’s and is on a fair 2 year deal with a team option for a third year at 18 mil with only a 1 mil buyout. That will obviously cost a real player and not just maybe be good prospects in return.

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      • socalbum

        7 years ago

        Dodgers already have Muncy at 1b with Bellinger in CF, so Alonso is not going to be part of the deal unless there is a third team involved that needs a first baseman. Bellinger might be available, but not for an aging SP with only a couple of years control.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          7 years ago

          I’m not arguing for Bellinger to be part of the deal, but your characterization of Kluber is just not accurate. Yes, he is in his 30’s, but “aging” indicates that his performance is in some way declining. Other than his age, there is no indication that Kluber is declining. I understand that age is an important factor, but he was lights out this year – and every year for the past five.

          Kluber would kill in LA…..and he’s controllable for three years….at a discount.

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        • socalbum

          7 years ago

          Let me be clear, I think Kluber is great and would love to have him pitching for Dodgers. My point was only trading Bellinger, as proposed above, for a pitcher turning 33 at the start of the 2019 season does not make sense for Dodgers (IMO). I think there are trade scenarios that make sense for both teams that do not include Bellinger.

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        • MC77

          7 years ago

          The Dodgers have close to an unlimited payroll Not being able to find an optimal place to start Max Muncy shouldn’t hold up a deal for a top end pitcher like Kluber. Bellinger sat on the bench against the Boston LHP. I am surprised any Dodger fans think trading Bellinger or blocking MAX MUNCY at 1st should slow a Kluber trade. The LA Dodgers weren’t WS winners because they didn’t have the starters to get it done. I hope the Tribe doesn’t trade you Kluber, but if they do, I hope it costs Bellinger plus. Regardless, I hope you all have a great day LAD fans.

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  31. Vizquel13

    7 years ago

    As a tribe fan I would love to get Verdugo and give him a chance in right. I like gap to gap line drive hitters with high batting averages and not a ton of strikeouts. Verdugo and Yandy Diaz could sustain a lot of rallies a the top of our line up with Lindor and Ramirez. Kluber, Alonzo and Gomes for Wood, Alexander, Verdugo, May, Will Smith and Christian Santana. Kluber is 2 time Cy Young winner cost controlled below market value for 3 more seasons. Gomes is a great defensive catcher also cost controlled for 3 seasons and has a decent bat for his position. Alonzo and Wood even out money wise, Dodgers can move Muncy and Taylor around the diamond and if they keep Alonzo under 550 PA’s they can ditch him at end of 2019.

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    • socalbum

      7 years ago

      Muncy’s best defensive position is first base, by far, so I don’t see Dodgers taking Alonso. Only way Alexander is included is if Brad Hand is in the package going to LA.

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    • MC77

      7 years ago

      That seems like too much quantity instead of proven quality. Cleveland plays in a weak division and is a playoff team, but needs to move some pitching for hitting and bullpen help. The Indians don’t need to subtract a high end starter and their catcher for 4 prospects a lesser starting pitcher. NO NO NO!!!!

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  32. John Shaw

    7 years ago

    What do you think the odds of us signing Keuchel are over giving up assets for Kluber? I feel like Keuchel is a better fit down here.

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    • MC77

      7 years ago

      Yes, the Dodgers need another LHP. Come on bro, he isn’t on the level of Kluber and makes that rotation way over the top on the left side. You can disagree with my opinion, but come better than that.

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  33. Rike Metro

    7 years ago

    Wood, Puig, Verdugo, Ruiz = Kluber, Gomes.

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      Young, controllable players. That is what the Indians need. Verdugo and Ruiz, yes. Wood and Puig, no.

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  34. basquiat

    7 years ago

    It would be just like the Indians to sign a ‘project’ like Puig. They always think they can cure these head cases. They never learn.

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    • Brian Meyer

      7 years ago

      Can you give me an example?

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  35. imindless

    7 years ago

    Funny everyone keeps saying that kluber should require sale type package despite underwhelming postseason numbers and being way older….also how did white sox trade work out for white sox?! They got fleeced, trading for major league talent is the only sure fire way to get better without taking a hit. Look how many “top” prospect stink or flame out lol. This deal works for so many reason and kluber is the guy because of his age you move. Carrasco and bauer both have 2/3 more years of controll and are much younger in baseball years. With brantley likely gone getting puig is a great replacement at half the cost.

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      7 years ago

      The Indians are a team that has for decades depended on trades for prospects. Kluber, Brantley, Gomes, Carrasco, and Bauer were all obtained as prospects. Not to mention past stars like Sizemore, Lee, Baerga, Alomar, Hafner, et al. I’m much more comfortable with Verdugo than Puig.

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    • debubba

      7 years ago

      Sale didn’t have a run of being in the top three of Cy Young voting 4 of the last five years. Sale has not won a Cy Young. Yes, Kluber is older but his credentials are much, much better than Sale.

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  36. thinkblue85

    7 years ago

    I’m thinking verdugo, Smith, Wood, and possibly another prospect or two. Still not sure if that’s enough for Cleveland to make this happen. It does seem like other than Wood, Cleveland wants young controllable players.

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  37. arne23

    7 years ago

    Curious if the Dodgers would consider trading Pederson, instead of Puig, plus others to get a deal for Kluber done.

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  38. robertk

    7 years ago

    Please do not trade Verdugo. He is the best all around OF prospect we have. Trade Wood, Alvarez and Puig and throw in Pederson if you have to for either Kluber or Carrasco. Bauer is too unpredictable. Pederson is all about either a HR or K and a rally killer. No one in the clubhouse likes him, either. Better yet, go after Sindergard for Puig, Pederspn, Hill, Alvarez, and Wood. Can you imagine a starting rortation of Kershaw, Sindergard, Buehler, Stripling, and Urias (and all in their mid or early twenties, except Kershaw at only 31)? With Maeda in the bullpen, and we still have Ryu, too? And trade Hill and Kemp for whatever prospects you can get (throw about $5M into the Kemp deal to offset the salary). You will have saved enough money to cover the new pitcher’s salary and make a serious run at Harper. An outfield of three guys also all in their early to mid twenties — Harper, Bellinger, and Verdugo? Wow.

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    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      To get something good, you have to give up something good. Cleveland is looking for young MLB ready players with control, Verdugo would obviously be part of the package and Puig would not. You want to trade your spare parts for a stud, Keep dreaming. Wood and Puig only have one year of control. Why would Cleveland trade 3 years of Kluber for that?

      Reply
  39. blueblood43

    7 years ago

    Kluber for Alex Wood, Joc Pederson, Dennis Santana or Yadier Alvarez, Diego Cartaya, and maybe a throw in like Ross Stripping and Brock Stewart but I think the first 4 are enough to get it done.

    Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      7 years ago

      Kluber for Verdugo, Dennis Santana, Stripling and Baez, Verdugo would have to be in the deal.

      Reply
  40. blueblood43

    7 years ago

    On second thought replace Cartaya with Will Smith and I think it can be done.

    Reply
  41. burnzitoburns

    6 years ago

    russell martin for matt kemp. straight up

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