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Quick Hits: Padres, Rule 5, Twins

By TC Zencka | November 24, 2018 at 10:51am CDT

The San Diego Padres were busy this week in shaping their 40-man roster ahead of December’s Rule 5 draft. The release of former prospect Cory Spangenberg and Christian Villanueva’s transpacific journey to the Yomiuiri Giants prefaced further roster reshaping via a pair of minor-league swaps. Fangraphs’ Eric Longenhagen reviews the prospects in those deals and others involved in swaps from this past week: Walker Lockett, Ignacio Feliz, Colten Brewer, Esteban Quiroz, Rowan Wick, Jason Vosler, Jordan Foley, Jefry Valdez and Tanner Anderson. While these moves appear minor, many of these players will have the opportunity to make an impact for pennant contenders next fall if they can impress their new gatekeepers in Cleveland, Colorado, New York, Boston and Chicago, respectively. Further Rule 5 news and more from around the league…

  • MLB.com picks intriguing candidates that could be selected from each team in December’s Rule 5 draft. Though it requires patience and a roster spot, the Rule 5 draft has been a viable resource in team building, especially for worst to first hopefuls who are closer to the former than the latter. Notably, the Cubs and Astros, two recent exemplars of roster renovation, each took advantage of the process by snatching players (Hector Rondon and Marwin Gonzalez, respectively) who made significant contributions to their title campaigns.
  • By the middle of last season, Twins’ chief baseball officer Derek Falvey was already preparing for the possibility that Joe Mauer might retire, per the Athletic’s Dan Hayes (subscription link).  The Twins continue to explore every option at first base, including moving struggling slugger Miguel Sano from third to first. One path they are unlikely to traverse is trading for a one-year rental like Arizona’s Paul Goldschmidt. The focus of the 2019 season in Minnesota will be as much about monitoring the rebound efforts of Sano and center fielder Byron Buxton as making a push for the playoffs, and with such uncertainty around their two high-ceiling stars, Falvey and company aren’t ready for an all-in move like trading for Arizona’s All-Star first baseman. Still, seeking a multi-year option at first base does not equate to youth, necessarily, as they are open to players like Carlos Santana or recently-DFAed C.J. Cron, each of whom would have two years of team control if acquired.
  • Elsewhere around the infield, the Twins are open to engaging Jorge Polanco’s positional flexibility as well. Polanco and Sano are currently penciled in at shortstop and third base, but that could change depending on their offseason acquisitions. For now, they are in the market for an offensive-minded second baseman, in which case Polanco would stay at short. There are more than a few viable short-term options on the free agent market to keep second base warm for prospect Nick Gordon, who was recently added to the 40-man roster. You can check out MLBTR’s full Offseason Outlook for the Twins here.
  • In the dugout, Bill Evers rounds out Rocco Baldelli’s staff as the major league catching coach. Evers, 64, is a 30-year coaching veteran with experience as a bench coach, manager, and minor-league field coordinator. He managed Baldelli when he was a player in Triple-A back in 2002, a relationship redolent of Alex Cora’s hiring of Ron Roenicke as his bench coach. Roenicke, too, managed his future helmsman when Cora was a prospect coming up in the Dodgers system.
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Free Agent Market Minnesota Twins Rule 5 Draft San Diego Padres Byron Buxton C.J. Cron Carlos Santana Colten Brewer Derek Falvey Esteban Quiroz Ignacio Feliz Miguel Sano Paul Goldschmidt Rocco Baldelli Rowan Wick Tanner Anderson Walker Lockett

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  1. baseball1600

    7 years ago

    Twins are the new timberwolves. 1 year fluke playoff appearance then major regression (Sano = Wiggins)

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    • acarneglia

      7 years ago

      Actually the Timberwolves were the Twins. Twins made the playoffs first. Wiggins is Sano

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      • RunDMC

        7 years ago

        Will Byron Buxton become Jimmy Butler?

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        • baseball1600

          7 years ago

          Had the twins traded for Goldschmidt, Goldschmidt would have been Butler.

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        • Slevin

          7 years ago

          That makes you the towel boy.

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        • Long Duc Dong

          7 years ago

          And you all need to get girlfriends

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        • DarkSide830

          7 years ago

          not sure what to think from a Philly standpoint..

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  2. petersdylan36

    7 years ago

    Could MLBTR create a post where it highlights the most likely players to be picked in the rule 5 draft? Not from every team just maybe 5-7 players

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    • Fuck Me Bitch

      7 years ago

      SB Nation just moments ago began running an article titled “Here are 9 intriguing prospects left unprotected heading into the Rule 5 Draft.”

      minorleagueball.com/2018/11/24/18109863/here-are-9…

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      • southi

        7 years ago

        Good article on the rule 5 potential draftees. I was really disappointed that the braves chose to protect Alex Jackson (who probably won’t ever be an even passable catcher) over Ray Patrick Didder who already has displayed above average defensive skills at multiple up the middle positions and has legit speed.

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  3. cxcx

    7 years ago

    Unusual use of “preempted.”

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    • TC Zencka

      7 years ago

      Unusual, in this case, is kind. Wrong word. Good note.

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  4. monymgr

    7 years ago

    Twins need to make additions through trades and FA Signing !! But they need to be smart with both as they are not serious contenders now nor will they be for the next 2/3 years .

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    • stubby66

      7 years ago

      I think the perfect fit for the Twins would be Eric Thames from the Brewers wouldn’t cost them much more then a low prospect

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  5. arenado28

    7 years ago

    If Both Sano and Buxton bounce back they the twins have a very good offense. They will just need a 2B and a Catcher(Castro is awful). Tyler Austin showed a lot of promise down the stretch to be the full time 1B next year.

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    • Fuck Me Bitch

      7 years ago

      Austin struck out 38% of the time against right-handed pitching. It’s all or nothing with his big swing. I have little confidence in him going forward. But we’ll see.

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    • arc89

      7 years ago

      Castro is injured not awful. He is a good defensive catcher that can hit right handed pitching. Twins problem is the awful defense they put on the field. To many DH type positional players. Improve the defense and the pitching will improve too.

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    • pinstripes17

      7 years ago

      They should trade for Thames and platoon him and Austin

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    • southpaw2153

      7 years ago

      As a Yankees fan, I was not happy they traded him for that sloth Lynn. While Austin will never be an MVP-type player, he was a clutch hitter in big spots. If he can ever cut down on the K’s, he could be an excellent overall player for the Twins.

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  6. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    Now whenever I see the name Cory Spangenberg I think of SpongeBob.

    Thanks Slevin!

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  7. Strauss

    7 years ago

    Buxton epitomizes the meaning of BUST!,,

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    • Fuck Me Bitch

      7 years ago

      And yet he’s still 24 years old.

      (25 next month)

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    • RunDMC

      7 years ago

      More like Jason Heyward 2.0. You don’t give up on a guy that gave you a 5.2 WAR season at 23. Sure, his floor is lower than most players, but is ceiling is much higher. If you’re done with him, send him home to GA and let the Braves try to fix his offensive inconsistencies. Would love to see him patrolling the OF.

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    • stymeedone

      7 years ago

      The Tigers will gladly take him off the Twins hands.

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  8. bjupton100

    7 years ago

    Ray’s should select Gettys off of S.D and the Cardinals should select Tyler Jay off of Minnesota.

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    • csspackler

      7 years ago

      Speaking of Gettys, he hit 3 HRs in a game yesterday for Adelaide of the ABL.

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  9. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    Love to see the padres look to get Richie Martin and kean wong in the rule 5 draft.

    Put wong at 3B see what you get in him. Put Martin at ss see what you get.

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    • csspackler

      7 years ago

      I kinda think shortstop is reserved. And they’re looking for a major league third baseman, so … no, and no.

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        Urias and tatis jr will begin the season in the minors- what is it 3 weeks a month? . Padres gain an extra year of control by doing so which if urias and tatis jr are as advertised and live up to the hype that extra year will be pivotal.

        And either wong and Martin is better to be a bench bat than asuaje and pirela.

        So you’d rather asuaje and pirela hold spots but not guys like wong or Martin? No thanks. Rather rule 5 wong and Martin dfa pirela and asuaje and then stash wong and Martin like they’ve done with torrens.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Urias spent the last 5 or so weeks of the season in the majors so he’d need to stay in the minors until (I believe) May 16th. If they were going to delay Urias’ FA another year I doubt he would have been called up in 2018.

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        • fruitsaladyummyyummy

          7 years ago

          Whether or not they do the padres should delay urias and tatis jr clock.

          What’s the point of wasting service time during a year youre not likely gonna compete?

          Imagine how angry people would be at the Epstein if he didn’t delay Bryant free agency years ago and they lost him after 2020 instead of 2021.

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        • csspackler

          7 years ago

          Urias likely will be the opening day starter at second. Tatis likely up by June.

          The roster as you see it now will be changing before ST. So Pirela and likely Asuaje will be gone long before April. Either way, how are you determining that Wong and Martin are better? Neither has played above Double-A. Fangraphs has Martin at FV 35. They don’t even list Wong. And there’s a reason both are being exposed, no?

          I think the days of selecting Rule 5 guys are over, friend.

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        • csspackler

          7 years ago

          Pardon my mistake. Wong played at Triple-A last year. However, the Rays promoted Lowe over him.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Richie Martin isn’t going to make it past Baltimore. We have no middle infielders and he could legitimately play for us. SD has been clearing guys off their 40. I don’t think you’ll see them making any picks.

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    • fruitsaladyummyyummy

      7 years ago

      The 1st step-
      DFA pirela and asuaje. Trade Jankowski. Trade Myers. Reyes renfroe margot with Cordero platooningg with all 3 in a rotation so 1 guy gets a day off every 4 games or so.

      The second step-
      Grab a rule 5 guy to serve as a reserve that was created by dfa asuaje and pirela.

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        Trade Myers to who and for what?

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        • fruitsaladyummyyummy

          7 years ago

          Trade Myers to whoever gives you the best deal. As for what. Well which ever deal you feel benefits you most whether it be the prospects or the financial relief or clearing a roster log jam that is the OF. Which ever scenario works best.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Why would anyone want to trade for Myers?

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        • fruitsaladyummyyummy

          7 years ago

          Young- 27
          When healthy proves hes between 7 and 15% better than league average with the bat.
          Ks 25% of the.time but walks 10% of the time, on average.
          The power is there- iso above 200 when hes been able to stay healthy.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          About to start making $22.5m/yr
          Not able to stay healthy
          Doesn’t have a position

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        • fruitsaladyummyyummy

          7 years ago

          Yeah, that’s the whole point of trading him. He can play 1B. He can play OF. Both are areas already occupied for the Padres.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Padres would have to attach him to Tatis or Gore to trade him.

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        • fruitsaladyummyyummy

          7 years ago

          I said myers. Not hosmer. They wouldn’t have to attach either to move myers contract.

          They may have to attach a prospect but it’d be outside their top 10.

          If you’re looking for a straight salary dump the Royals or Orioles wouldnt require quality packages. Theyd be happier receiving quantity packages for taking myers contract given how barren their farms have become.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Point is no one wants Myers

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        • juicemane

          7 years ago

          He only has to produce 2.5 WAR to be worth that 22 mil…ask fangraphs and mike leake…oh yeah raisel Iglesias too

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Myers can’t hit lefties and has no value with absurd back loaded contract

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  10. turner9

    7 years ago

    Smoak/travis/pillar for Buxtin and a prospect?

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  11. Rich Hill’s Elbow

    7 years ago

    Despite his good play after the suspension, I could see the Twins dangling Polanco (Sano as well), and possibly trading him, if the return looked something similar to what D-backs got back for Segura. Obviously Polanco didn’t have a season like Segura’s before being traded, but he’s definitely showing signs that he could be as good, if not better, with the bat than Segura (not to mention his controllability).

    The big problem is his defense, he’s a work in progress at SS, but has the makings of an All-Star 2B. Now. I don’t have a problem with holding onto Polanco, but depending on how top prospects Lewis/Gordon/Javier progress as players, Polanco could possibly find himself the odd man out come 2020 due to a crowded infield, the suspension ( lack of organizational trust), defensive issues, and the chance that we sign multiple quality infielders in this loaded FA class, and the next (Andrus/Gregorius/Gennett/Bogaerts/Kipnis).

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  12. FriendOfBoras

    7 years ago

    Padres really need to consider making some big trades. They’ve got a lot of unproven prospects surrounded by A LOT of hype. They’re in a position where they could trade there way to a World Series win in 2019. Imagine the return they could get for Tatis Jr., renfroe, Myers, Urias, Gore, etc. why wait to be good when they could be good now. They need to take the win now approach.

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      Obvious troll is obvious

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      • FriendOfBoras

        7 years ago

        Not a troll, just stating my opinion on how I think they could be successful.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          See? Only trolls say “I’m just stating my opinion.”

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        • FriendOfBoras

          7 years ago

          You caught me, good eye and goodnight.

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