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Padres Pursuing Mike Moustakas

By Connor Byrne | February 9, 2019 at 5:57pm CDT

The Brewers are reportedly the front-runners to sign free-agent third baseman Mike Moustakas, but they’re facing competition from at least one team. The Padres, who have prioritized finding a third baseman this offseason, are “going after” Moustakas, according to AJ Cassavell of MLB.com. San Diego first “checked in” on Moustakas earlier this winter, and Cassavell’s report indicates the club is legitimately in pursuit of the 30-year-old at this late stage of the offseason.

This is the second straight drawn-out trip to the open market for Moustakas, who was shockingly available until last March before re-signing with the Royals for a $6.5MM guarantee. While Moustakas entered last winter with designs on landing a lucrative multiyear deal, that was before the free-agent process became unkind to even the most proven veterans available. This is the second year in a row a slew of familiar names are unemployed as spring training approaches, and even elite free agents Bryce Harper and Manny Machado haven’t found deals to their liking yet. With that in mind, it’s not surprising Moustakas is still searching for a contract. Some of the teams that could sign Moustakas are likely awaiting Machado’s decision first, after all, and the former did turn in a 2018 showing which was almost identical to his 2017 performance.

Last year, in 152 games divided between the Royals and Brewers, Moustakas offered slightly above-average offensive numbers, hitting .251/.315/.459 (105 wRC+) with 28 home runs in 635 plate appearances. He paired that output with respectable defense at third, where he posted two DRS and a plus-one Ultimate Zone Rating, en route to 2.4 fWAR (he logged 2.1 fWAR in 598 PAs during the prior campaign).

Based on the production Moustakas has recorded in recent years and throughout most of his career, he’d give the Padres an average regular at third. Moustakas, then, is a far less compelling option than Machado – who has also drawn the Padres’ interest – but would nonetheless give the Friars a credible starter at the hot corner. It seems they’re lacking that at the moment, evidenced by the untested Ty France being their projected starter at the position, after waving goodbye to the unspectacular 2018 duo of Christian Villanueva and Cory Spangenberg earlier this offseason. While the Padres still have Wil Myers, who played 36 games at third last season, the team’s plan to shift him back to a full-time outfield role during the upcoming campaign remains intact, Cassavell hears. Likewise, big-hitting catcher prospect Francisco Mejia, who saw a bit of action at third while a member of Cleveland’s farm system, will not be a hot corner choice for San Diego, per Cassavell.

Should he sign with the Padres, Moustakas would reunite him with his friend, first baseman Eric Hosmer, as the two were teammates in Kansas City from 2011-17. However, if the Padres miss on Moustakas (not to mention Machado), they could turn their attention to another of the established third base possibilities still without jobs. Marwin Gonzalez – whom San Diego targeted earlier this winter – remains a free agent, as do Derek Dietrich, Logan Forsythe, Josh Harrison and ex-Padre Yangervis Solarte. Barring a trade, someone from that group may well end up in a Padres uniform before the season begins.

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  1. david klein

    6 years ago

    Signing Moose after being in on Machado would be the most Padres move.

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    • washington_bonercats

      6 years ago

      SD knows there’s no chance they’ll get Manny regardless of money. He wants to win

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      • Wolverines2

        6 years ago

        And Moustakas does not want to win? Winning in 2019 is Machado’s number one priority? Not getting the biggest contract in the game? Highest AAV? Padres have an extremely bright future.

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        • padam

          6 years ago

          No, Moustakas just wants to remain viable and continue to play baseball while he can. Winning for him is gravy. Machado has the luxury to pick and choose.

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        • Samuel

          6 years ago

          @ Wolverines2 & padam;

          I can state with certainty that I have not spoken with Mike, so I don’t know what he’s looking for.

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        • teddyj

          6 years ago

          Machado has seen the writing on the wall …He ain’t getting the biggest contract in the game and does no;t deserve it.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          And how many years have we all been hearing about this “bright future” the Padres are supposed to have????

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      • terror661

        6 years ago

        3 of the 4 teams in on Machado aren’t serious contenders though… So what makes the Padres for sure out of it?

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      • Chicks Dig the Longball

        6 years ago

        I don’t think it is that easy to say he will go to a winner. Who is targeting him hard? White Sox, Padres? Both teams are looking to flip from rebuilder to contender. Phillies? They are better, but certainly not a lock to contend. There is no true contender courting Machado now that the Yankees are out. So a White Sox or a Padres signing could be his best bet.

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      • bkbk

        6 years ago

        Red, Sox, Astros, Cubs, Royals

        A real list of perennial winners…

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        • Priggs89

          6 years ago

          Royals lol

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        • bkbk

          6 years ago

          In case it wasnt clear, those are the previous world series winners.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        6 years ago

        That narrative is just silly.

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      • Crewfan620

        6 years ago

        Actually you’re wrong. Boras already said that Manny is looking for the biggest offer hence why the White Sox are in on him

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      • Koamalu

        6 years ago

        Today they said on MLB Network that the Padres are rumored to have the top bid for Machado so far. They have a better farm system and team than the White Sox today. There is a really good chance that Machado ends up in San Diego.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          I seriously doubt Machado (or Harper) will sign with the Padres.

          However, Moustakas at least makes sense. But the Brewers are the “front runner?”

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        • Grizalt

          6 years ago

          They will if they pay. But idk if Harper is enough of an upgrade from Renfroe/Reyes to be worth paying that kind of money.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          I don’t think it will ever happen. Even if it could, I’ll take Harper all day over Machado.

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    • Wolverines2

      6 years ago

      Agree…boring and another 20 homer, low OBP guy is not what this team needs. 2 years max, and a huge yawn from me…Would MUCH rather have Marwin.

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      • Koamalu

        6 years ago

        Marwin Gonzales has one good season. Last season was decidedly yawnish at .248/.324 with a 103 OPS+. Why would you prefer him over Moustakas?

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        • Wolverines2

          6 years ago

          Moustakas does not have a body that ages well. A 2 year contract would be fine, but the versatility and ability to get on base more seem to me to make MG a better fit if you are looking at that group of guys to fit in.

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      • SDHotDawg

        6 years ago

        Wolverines –

        What this team needs is ANY player that that is an upgrade to the current ML roster. Right now, Moustakis fits.

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        • Wolverines2

          6 years ago

          I was thinking more like Machado…

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          And I’d like to have Harper. Neither one is going to happen. IMO, Preller can’t pull it off, and neither one of those guys wants to be a Padre.

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        • Wolverines2

          6 years ago

          I’m not positive how you know that. Preller will pull off whatever ownership let’s him. I would bet that the Padres will land one of those two guys if they are the highest bidder.

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        • Swinging Friars

          6 years ago

          Preller can and will make it happen if he wants it. His short track record shows this guy is a go getter!

          I’m with Wolverine…. Machado or bust. Let one of the many kids or Meyers play third if you can’t get Machado this year

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          “Let Myers play third” tells me all I need to know regarding your opinion of Preller’s baseball expertise.

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    • davidkaner

      6 years ago

      They couldn’t convince Harper or Machado yet but you never know.

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      • Wolverines2

        6 years ago

        Goes without saying that would be ideal – as long as ownership was committing to building around them and moving closer to league average payroll, year after year.

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        • Koamalu

          6 years ago

          Last year the Padres ended the season at a $130 million payroll. What is MLB average?

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        • damascusj

          6 years ago

          league avg was 140m, padres were at 103m, vurrently they are at 60m, they could sign harper and machado and be under league avg

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        • Wolverines2

          6 years ago

          Yeah, I’m talking active player payroll…Not what they are dishing out to former players and throw away salary.

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        • Swinging Friars

          6 years ago

          Unfortunately all the money counts. But they are getting close to debt free, just a couple more years

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  2. fasbal1

    6 years ago

    Padres seem to be in on everyone.

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    • Ryan W

      6 years ago

      Well, this one is actually a position of need at 3B, whereas lots of other rumors have been in areas of abundance (catcher, outfield). This has all been coming

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        Abundance of bad-to-mediocre…

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  3. tony gwynn

    6 years ago

    Short term, reasonable deal makes sense at this point. Please just don’t go longer than 3 years, AJ.

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    • lowtalker1

      6 years ago

      No more then 2

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      • Gfee0907

        6 years ago

        What’s your answer after 2 years?

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        • lowtalker1

          6 years ago

          Potts if ready

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        • Gfee0907

          6 years ago

          Potts is your long term solution to 3rd base. A fringe prospect?

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        • Chicks Dig the Longball

          6 years ago

          I’m sure what ever their answer could be would be better than a 33-34 year old bad bodied 3rd baseman.

          Perhaps Tatis fills out and moves to 3B. Urias shifts to SS. They have a few good MIF guys who could fill in a 2B. Or they could sign a guy. The game of baseball changes so fluidly, I wouldn’t worry about small “who plays waht position in 3 years?” decision. Just keep making the smart moves and a good team will follow.

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        • eduardoaraisa98

          6 years ago

          Or they could just sign Moustakas for a one year deal and then chase for Arenado or Rendon in the 2019-2020 offseason.

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        • fasbal1

          6 years ago

          You would really see an offensive decline in Arenados numbers in San Diego, doubt he would want to sign there

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        • Samuel

          6 years ago

          “I’m sure what ever their answer could be would be better than a 33-34 year old bad bodied 3rd baseman.”
          _

          @ Chicks Dig the Longball;

          Moustakas is 29 years-old and he’s an excellent 3B.

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        • Cam

          6 years ago

          He’s a good 3B, not an excellent 3B. If he were excellent, he wouldn’t be floundering on the FA market, a year after settling for $6mil.

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        • DTD

          6 years ago

          Excellent? He’s slightly above average

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        • Koamalu

          6 years ago

          Moustakas is mediocre on defense.

          fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=3b&stats=fld&#…

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        • keepinthafaithsd1

          6 years ago

          The padres not only have tatis is the wings but a very intreging prospect xavier edwards that has alot of promise. Have tatis slide over to the hot corner in 3 yrs when edwards is ready

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        • Padres2019ha

          6 years ago

          Pretty sure that’s any other stadium other than Coors….?

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        • Padres2019ha

          6 years ago

          X Edwards, Gabe Arias in a few years

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        • Chicks Dig the Longball

          6 years ago

          Moustakas is 30. He is a good 3B, but he is bad bodied, and guys with his build do not age well.

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      • Prospectnvstr

        6 years ago

        2 yrs w either a dual option or a vesting year.

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  4. Padres r knocking on the door

    6 years ago

    Would rather the Pads sign Moustakas on a 2-3 year deal, and see how Owen Miller develops than sign Machado.

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  5. omalleyiv

    6 years ago

    Reunite Moose with Hosmer. KC West!

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  6. Braves4Ever2025

    6 years ago

    2 hours ago Moustakas to Milwaukee seemed inevitable and now Padres are the front runners

    Do any of the MLBTR writers check with one another before posting something or does everyone just wing it?

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    • geejohnny

      6 years ago

      That’s why they’re called rumors. Most are just educated guesses or behind the scenes manipulations. Gets old….doesn’t it? 3 weeks until the games!

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      • lowtalker1

        6 years ago

        Yup
        I rather read stuff on twitter then here. Don’t like being censored or comments deleted.

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        • ColossusOfClout

          6 years ago

          Wait. You’re saying twitter doesn’t censor people? LOL

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        • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

          6 years ago

          Lowtalker == Then see ya! If I see you back here, I will make sure to shame you. Good luck tweeting, ya tweet.

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    • Wolverines2

      6 years ago

      Pretty sure it said that Milwaukee was the front runner but they have competition in San Diego…Do you read articles before questioning the writers?

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      • Braves4Ever2025

        6 years ago

        This article originally said Padres were the favorites and nothing about the Brewers when I posted

        They do edit these after the fact FYI

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        • Wolverines2

          6 years ago

          Fair enough – did not see that.

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    • Koamalu

      6 years ago

      “The Brewers are reportedly the front-runners to sign free-agent third baseman Mike Moustakas, but they’re facing competition from at least one team. The Padres, who have prioritized finding a third baseman this offseason, are “going after” Moustakas, according to AJ Cassavell of MLB.com.”

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      • stubby66

        6 years ago

        Maybe Milwaukee can resign Moose then trade Shaw to the Padres for Mejia the catcher

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  7. hiflew

    6 years ago

    I really don’t see why Baltimore is not interested. Moose is clearly a better option than Renato Nunez. They are still a big league team. Even if they don’t care about the next couple of years, they can always sign him to flip him at the deadline. If not, they will at least have a major league caliber player at third base.

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    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

      6 years ago

      If the Orioles truly don’t care, they are going to lose a lot of their fanbase.
      I know they are on the verge of losing me, I am fed up with them!

      Signing Moose might smooth things over a bit and if they sign Yolbert Sanchez that would help even more.

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    • Chicks Dig the Longball

      6 years ago

      I agree. If I am a rebuilding team without a lot of MLB ready prospects, I would acquire as many 1 year flip candidates as I could and have a yard sell in July.

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    • DarkSide830

      6 years ago

      i mean they can litterally just use him as a DH and sit Davis all year.

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      • CursedRangers

        6 years ago

        Bartolo Colon would be a better option at DH then Chris Davis…

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  8. bravesfan

    6 years ago

    They need to make a decision on what path they are taking… are they competing or not? Rebuilding or not? Making smart moves or not?

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    • Wolverines2

      6 years ago

      Rebuilding – yes.
      Competing – maybe.
      Smart moves- ???

      Very little money on the books, strong farm system…they are in a position where if something expensive and long term becomes possible as a free agent (Harper, Machado), then they can swing it. This does not mean they will/would/should trade their farm away to chase a pennant now.

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  9. Thronson5

    6 years ago

    I think it’s a shame what free agency has become in MLB. It’s a mixture of agents and players wanting too much and owners/GM’s not wanting to play guys whah they want.

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    • Thronson5

      6 years ago

      *pay guys what they deserve

      Is what I meant to type.

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      • fasbal1

        6 years ago

        What they deserve or what they want, Machado and Harper both are both self proclaimed 30 million dollar a year players, yet there seems to be a reluctance to sign them at the AAV and the years they desire. Everyone always think their house is worth more than it actually is…..

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    • ChiSoxCity

      6 years ago

      Free agency (and player movement in general) is a racket.

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  10. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    6 years ago

    I am not sure if Petco Park is an ideal place for Moose, can he be a productive hitter there?

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  11. Kwflanne

    6 years ago

    The fact that anybody takes these reports for the Padres seriously, is comical… to put it nicely. Please note: a month ago (approximately) they opened their books to the public in an article by Kevin Acee detailing the debt the franchise is still in, and how it likely won’t be ready to spend much more money for a couple more years. The article was written in order to shed some light, some honesty, some bright future for the Padres and their fans…. it backfired. They were crucified in local media and have several season ticket holders wondering “why would we bother paying for tickets until then?”…… then…. all of a sudden…. “Padres in on Realmuto, Padres in on Machado, Padres in on Harper, Padres in on Moustakas…”

    The only thing the Padres are legitimately “in on”, is hoping to god they can fill their stadium at least to a respectable capacity over the next few years. Number one rule in ticket sales heading into a season: don’t tell the fans we don’t stand a chance this year, and aren’t adding any help. SELL SELL SELL.

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    • Samuel

      6 years ago

      @ Kwflanne;

      Bravo!

      Your post is one of the two best I’ve read on the Padres in 6-8 months here.

      The other one noted that Preller excels at gathering up prospects, but then doesn’t know what to do with them.

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      • Kwflanne

        6 years ago

        ^ also very accurate. As a Padres fan, I’ve consistently been of the opinion that AJ Preller belongs in scouting or minor league operations, as he is a very hard worker in terms of his scouting both of MLB farm systems and international talent. However, he has ZERO ability to construct a major league roster, move assets at peak value, identify good long term commitments with sizable contracts (to date, it’s been shields, Myers, and Hosmer…. yikes). There are constant logjams at positions on the major league club (outfield last year…. outfield this year…. and now catcher with a young developing Mejia likely to give at bats away in a split with hedges)… that said, he is occasionally able to find a gem like a Brad hand, or a Tatis jr in other teams farm systems. At the same time, he also has missed on trades. Whoever posted that about Preller, shares my view. Probably better suited for scouting and minor league development. Leave the major league roster decisions to someone else. He hasn’t done so well there since taking over in 2014 (people like to say “well… it didn’t start until 2016 when he traded away kemp, kimbrel, etc.). That’s just flat wrong…. it started when he was hired, in 2014, when he went on to trade away joe Ross (starting caliber pitcher in the majors now) tre turner (starting major league shortstop, all-star caliber), Zach efflin (starting major league pitcher), and many others. People will say “well, he wanted to build HIS own farm systems…. really? Because Hunter Renfroe, hedges, Urias, etc were all here before Preller. The fact is, he got rid of players who eventually made an impact on the majors….. while keeping the likes of Renfroe/hedges/etc…. who have not planned out. He swung for the fences in 2014/2015 offseason and missed big time. That’s when his clock as GM began. Not in 2016 when he had to subsequently trade away kemp, shields, Norris, kimbrel, etc….

        Sorry Padres fans. I’m a season ticket holder. Will always be a fan. But “incompetence should not be rewarded with blind loyalty” (GAME OF THRONES!!). Preller should not be a GM. At least not at this time.

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        • Grizalt

          6 years ago

          Renfroe and Hedges turned out just fine. Mostly agree however that Preller belongs in a scouting role.

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        • Kwflanne

          6 years ago

          I’d have to disagree on that…. as neither player has yet to hit over .250 in the majors, and neither has been able to lock down a starting role. Renfroe is constantly shuffled in and out of the lineup, because management sees him as simply a “lefty masher” (which I disagree with, I actually think he could be good…. but they continue to platoon him). And hedges continues to be an easy out at the plate who can occasionally run into a homer. His defense is undeniable…. but the gap between his defense and his offense is too big. Especially in a weak Padres lineup. You can hide hedges and live with it if the rest of the Padres lineup produces. But it doesn’t. So he just adds to the problem. Just my opinion. If someone said pick a few prospects to keep out of: efflin, joe Ross, tre turner, Renfroe, hedges…. knowing what we know now, I think Renfroe/hedges would be at the bottom of my list

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        • Koamalu

          6 years ago

          So BA is the best measure of performance?

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        • Grizalt

          6 years ago

          As Koalmalu said, batting average isn’t a good stat. Jose Pirela, for instance, has a good batting average because he doesn’t strike out. He also doesn’t walk or hit for extra bases.

          By your own admittance, Renfroe’s biggest problem is the way they use him. They need to just let him play.

          Hedges has shown flashes offensively but obviously needs to show more consistency. Either way he’s top 3 defensively in the game.

          On the other prospects, Trea Turner is an obvious one. Zach Eflin has a career ERA above 5 and has never been below 4 over the course of the season. Joe Ross still has to show he can return to form after TJS.

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        • davidcoonce74

          6 years ago

          The POadres have the best farm system in baseball, and the best prospect in baseball. We can argue about the dumb stuff, and whose fault it was to sign Hosmer, but Preller is doing what he was hired to do, which is to build the farm system and create a contending team from within.

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        • Grizalt

          6 years ago

          Apparently not considering he was going hard after JT Realmuto despite the Padres having two quality catchers on the roster already

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        • Kwflanne

          6 years ago

          …. so, he HASNT done what he was hired to do… because at NO time during his tenure (starting in October of 2014, starting the 2015 season, and now into 2019) have they had a contender. The ONLY thing he has accomplished, is getting a farm system highly ranked. That’s it. He has yet to field a major league club that performs. Farm system ranking, as much as people like to brag about them, really mean nothing. Because you either use those pieces to acquire talent (like he tried with Myers, then extended Myers, while losing turner…. bad move) or you hold on to those highly touted prospects (example, Manuel Margot) and they don’t turn out to be the impact talent you expected. So I’m sorry, getting a farm system ranked highly is NOT what he was hired to do. He was hired to build a winner on the major league field. Yes, through homegrown talent, smart acquisitions, and an ability to spend money which the owners have allowed (James shields, Wil Myers, Eric Hosmer…..) how are those looking? People boasting about the farm system tend to forget the Padres have had highly rated farm systems before…. just never see the end result on the big league level. Preller was hired to make the Padres a winner. Not to have highly rated prospects at low a Fort Wayne through El Paso.
          People can have HOPE for the future, but they hopefully are open-eyed enough to realize that hope was also there for Margot…. for Myers… for Renfroe… for hedges… for Eric Lauer… all players (and more) who haven’t lived up to the billing.

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        • davidcoonce74

          6 years ago

          You do know that Hunter Renfroe, as a major leaguer, has been much more valuable than Eflin, and equally valuable as Joe Ross, right? Hedges is at least an elite defensive catcher, although the bat may never come around. Yes, he received an edict from management to “go for it” in 2015 and that was dumb, and losing Turner was a part of that, but I think you’re wildly overvaluing the Padres’ prospects before Preller showed up – I mean the top-10 prospects when Preller took over was filled with guys like Wisler, Casey Kelly, Rymer Liriano, Lemonds (who?), Gettys, Spangenberg, Rondon…it wasn’t a good system. It’s the consensus #1 system in baseball now, 3 years later. I think a 5-year plan is prudent before we start deciding what Preller is.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          Renfroe was already one of our top prospects when Preller took over. So was Urias.

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        • davidcoonce74

          6 years ago

          Renfroe was in the Padres top-10 (was #1 on some lists, behind Wisler on others) when Preller became GM, Urias wasn’t in the top 30 when Preller became GM (Urias was also, like 17 years old then)..

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        • davidcoonce74

          6 years ago

          Here are some of the other “top prospects” in the Pads’ system when Preller became GM: Austin Smith, Jason Nix, Javy Guerra, Ruddy Giron, Luis Perdomo, Trayvon Guerrero, Zach Lemonds, Michael Gettys – all of these guys have been swamped by the players Preller has drafted or signed out of the Int’l market. I don’t think he has to prove his acumen in terms of building a farm system at this point; he needs to take the prospects the next step, and he hasn’t gotten a real chance to do that yet because he wasted a year playing deadwood like Derick Norris and Matt Kemp and James Shields etc. and then stripped the MLB team down to rebuild.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          So you’re admitting that prospects are unknown quantities. Preller’s are no different.

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    • Koamalu

      6 years ago

      You should reread that article. The article detailed how the Padres cleared up debt and now have an additional $8 million they believe they can apply to MLB payroll starting in 2019. That is $8 million over the $130 million they spent last season. As of right now the Padres have an $80 million payroll in 2019.

      docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tml6a7X5uNjETnokoB…

      The Padres signed the highest paid free agent last offseason, the season before offered the most money to a free agent, and in 2016 spent over $100 million on amateur players between International Free Agency and the draft.

      Attempting to say that they are not spending money and are not genuine in their pursuit of major FA like Machado and Harper is asinine.

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      • Swinging Friars

        6 years ago

        Some of these “fans” are stuck on auto-pilot and that is still set to frustrated. To be fair, they come by it honestly…. It’s an unintended consequence of losing for 12 straight years

        Preller has given us a lot to cheer for over the last couple of years. It’s time to grab ahold of the gear shifter and get ready to watch some good baseball again!

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        • Kwflanne

          6 years ago

          I’m sorry…. but what have PADRES fans had to cheer for that Preller has given us? I think you’re confusing PADRES fans, with lake Elsinore storm fans, Fort Wayne tincap fans, San Antonio missions fans, etc etc.

          “Preller has given us a lot to cheer for over the last couple of years”…. ??? I don’t cheer because we have a highly rated farm system. I cheer when that farm system rating provides success on the major league field. Or when a general manager makes quality free agent signings that help our team improve. What has Preller done to give fans something to cheer about…. on the San Diego Padres baseball field?

          Sorry but the prospect love has to stop. Not a single person can say you shouldn’t be HOPEFUL. Hopeful is fine. As in, HOPEFULLY a few of these prospects work out. But we were hopeful Myers was the “face of the franchise”. Hopeful shields was that ace the staff had been missing. Hopeful Hosmer would prove worth the money. Hopeful hedges would develop a bat to go with his defense. And so on and so on and so on.

          It’s not people stuck in auto pilot, set to frustration. It’s people stuck in reality, whereas other have their heads stuck in the clouds. And that’s ok…. some people are dreamers. However, that doesn’t mean people pointing out the actual state of the team are stuck in auto pilot… when the Padres reach a level of .500, let me know. Because before then…. the only thing I can be is CAUTIOUSLY optimistic regarding prospects (some of which are still several years away). Preller has given this Padres fan, and many others, nothing to cheer about when we spend our money to go to, or even watch, the games. The only ones cheering are the ones who live and die by baseball America or mlb.com prospect rankings.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          The ONLY thing Preller has done is build a highly regarded farm system. Last time I looked, prospect and farm system rankings don’t win ball games, and there is practically zero correlation between “highly ranked farms” and winning where it counts.

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    • davidcoonce74

      6 years ago

      Correction:…”opened up *some* of their books.” If you think the Padres were being transparent about their finances in that article by Acee I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

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      • Swinging Friars

        6 years ago

        More than any other team has…ever. It’s something, and it’s a start

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  12. john9977

    6 years ago

    figure he would wanna sign with his boy, but hosmer didnt do nothing his first year there.

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  13. kenleyfornia2

    6 years ago

    There is a San Diego – Kansas City pipeline starting to build

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  14. Grizalt

    6 years ago

    Rather go after Machado. If he signs for less than $250m and it’s with someone other than the Padres I’ll be very disappointed.

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  15. reflect

    6 years ago

    The last former Royal they signed worked out so well, might as well do it again.

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  16. Club39

    6 years ago

    Moose plays 3rd
    Manny plays short
    Helloooooooo playoffs lol

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    • Ski to Coors

      6 years ago

      Tatis is better than Moose, no sense in getting the Moose if you’re getting a Machado.

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  17. blackleather

    6 years ago

    This says to me, Machado made it clear he doesn’t want to play for SD. And the more I think about it, Harper was and still is, interested in playing for the Dodgers. And I think LA knows it, but isn’t as interested as he thought they might be. So, this us where the Padres should take the shadiness, personally…and play better than anyone thinks they will. Moose or Gonzalez, are far away from the worst options SD could acquire.

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    • brewcat

      6 years ago

      Or Machado hasn’t made anything clear and SD hopes this gets some reaction from him.

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      • Koamalu

        6 years ago

        Brewcat, I think you have hit on the real reason for this rumor. The Padres are rumored to have made the highest offer for Machado, but it’s not clear that he wants to either play 3B or play on the West Coast. This is a shot across the bow from the Padres that they are out of the bidding for him if they sign Moustakas and he needs to make a decision now. Players will be reporting to spring training next weekend and I am sure the Padres and other teams want to have their players all in camp from the start. That would include Machado, Harper and Moustakas.

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  18. SupremeZeus

    6 years ago

    I figured the white sox would sniff around the moose after they whiff on macho man.

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  19. Roll

    6 years ago

    Just a curious thought the padres need a 3rd baseman and the mets are glutton with if. Think a frazier to san diego is a possibility? I was thinking he is fa after the season which doesnt block any of the prospects soon to be up as well as some mentorship. This would also free up some ab for McNeil

    Maybe some cash to padres to cover some of frazier contract for a fringe guy coming back to the mets thats not on the 40 man. At first, I was thinking a contract swap first but pretty much everyone on the padres except a few are arb guys and none making anything close to his contract.

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    • Grizalt

      6 years ago

      Take Jose Pirela… Please.

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    • Padres2019ha

      6 years ago

      No thanks

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  20. SFGiantsGallore

    6 years ago

    No matter who the person, they ALWAYS reference Machado/Harper. I mean I get it, their signings will determine the market. But it just seems like if it’s “raining outside” then it’s because Harper hasn’t signed with a team yet.

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  21. bradthebluefish

    6 years ago

    Sign Harper and Moose and maybe Dallas call it a season.

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  22. AstrosWS20

    6 years ago

    We’ve got Moose pics in home and alternative Brewers unis for two consecutive articles on the MLBTR app. Can we get a road or throwback uni pic of the Moose on a third article to make it a trifecta?

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  23. jonesadoug

    6 years ago

    Alcides Escobar is still unsigned also. Moose is a helluva player. KC Padres would be fun to watch after our Royals games end in the evening.

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  24. sergefunction

    6 years ago

    The Padres keep chasing these random targets like Rick Pitino in an Italian restaurant. Allegedly.

    Like him, it worked at least once. Like him, while it is at best arguably admirable that they keep trying, news of it might best be left strictly to themselves.

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  25. throwinched10

    6 years ago

    Looking at the Padres future vs the White Sox future. If I was Machado, I would pick the Padres.
    Machado, Tatis, Urias, Hosmer, Mejia, Reyes, Margot, Gore, Allen…Padres have a bright future

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    • throwinched10

      6 years ago

      Add Paddack and Morejon to that list.

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      • Swinging Friars

        6 years ago

        Don’t forget Baez

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    • Bruin1012

      6 years ago

      The White Sox look pretty good too they have a lot of good young players coming as well. It’s pretty much a toss up at this point. The Padres have a ton of prospects they need to start graduating and see how they look at the big league level. I do agree that the Pads have a bright future and think they should go hard after Machado.

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    • davidcoonce74

      6 years ago

      Oh man, did you really just put Hosmer in that list? Hosmer isn’t young and, more importantly, he isn’t good.

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  26. Caleb Clark

    6 years ago

    Mike Moustakas gets a 2-3 yr contract worth about $8M to $10M per year and use him as a trade chip in his final season if the team is struggling.

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  27. BoycottSD

    6 years ago

    Does the Chargers owner Spanos secretly own the Padres?

    Why debate a few million dollars or 10 million or 20 million? The Padre organization, with taxpayer funded Petco Park revenue, has made every owner rich. According to Forbes – the current owners paid $600 million in 2012, and now the team, is worth $1.2 BILLION. They have made their money. All the fans have received for their continued support – – is lower than AAA baseball at premium prices for tickets, parking, and concession.

    Free agents do not deplete your farm system. It is only money! You screw up when you trade away talent.

    Trying to win makes money! The Padres well-intentioned but failed 2015 endeavor drew an extra 500,00 fans over two years (300,000 in 2015 and 200,000 in 2016). The screw-up was was trading for players. The San Diego fans supported the attempt to improve immediately. (Attendance average before and after those years is 2.1 million fans.)

    If each of those extra 2015/2016 fans spent $50, the return on investment was $25 million, plus additional fans that might have continued their support if the team kept trying to win.

    A good farm system is not an excuse to have a major league roster full of less than .250 hitters and or lack a legitimate #1 or #2 starting pitcher.

    Did we really see starting pitching by committee from the bullpen, last year?

    When does San Diego get a return on Petco investment? Maybe this ownership group needs to take a page from Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank – Take care of your fans! Do your best to put a winner on the field and don’t gouge the people that come to your games.

    How do the fans make their voices heard?

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    • Kwflanne

      6 years ago

      By drowning out the fans who provide their blind loyalty. As long as you have those fans who continue to point to our minor league prospect ranking, instead of our major league roster performance, this regime will continue to get away with robbery. As a lifelong Padres fan, I always find it comical when people say “well, we can’t spend like the dodgers and Red Sox and Yankees…”. That’s very true, we can’t. Know what else we can’t do? Produce major league talent from our farm system like the Red Sox (betts, devers, bennetendi, Bradley jr, Pedroia, etc), the dodgers (Peterson, bellinger, kershaw, seager, etc) the Yankees (Sanchez, andujar, severino, etc)….

      The spending money excuse doesn’t work anymore (as teams like the A’s have shown). It’s smart management and having prospects streamline into the majors and have an impact. Hedges/Renfroe/Margot have NOT had any impact to turn this club around.

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      • davidcoonce74

        6 years ago

        As you pointed out above, Hedges/Renfroe were part of the “prospects” in the previous regime. Margot has been a decent major-leaguer who is still very young and can improve; he was also drafted by and developed by the Red Sox. The wave of Preller’s prospects hasn’t even really hit the majors yet, so I think it’s premature to say “he can’t get them over the hump.” The prospects who were in the system when Preller took over were nothing special; Matt Wisler was the Padres #1 prospect when he took over and he’s a fringe major-leaguer. Renfroe is a deeply flawed player who might turn into something. Hedges is a glove-only catcher. Dinelson Lamet? Luis Perdomo? Rymer Liriano? Preller realized these guys were trash and jettisoned them relatively quickly. I know it feels like the team should be better by now, but I think we should wait to see if the prospects Preller drafted/ bought and developed actually pan out before we make some kind of assumption. They just haven’t even gotten a chance yet.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          This is Preller’s 5th full year. The Cubs lost in the NLCS in Epstein’s 4th year. The Astros had a winning season in 2015, Luhnow’s 4th year at the helm.

          The only reason I use those two examples is because everybody thinks we’re doing the copycat dance. There are more: Ray’s, Brewers, A’s, Braves ….

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        • davidcoonce74

          6 years ago

          Well, the Cubs and Astros weren’t given a ridiculous edict from management to “go for it” like Preller was (Upton, Kemp, Norris, Shields, etc….you know what happened), which set the rebuild back at least a year. Ultimately a GM has to do what the owner says, and that disastrous offseason really screwed up the long-term plans, but I think the Padres are on the right track now.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          I can’t find that “edict” stated anywhere. In fact, his introductory press conference was full of talk about building for the long term. If you can point me to an article or presser where that goal was stated … ?

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      • davidcoonce74

        6 years ago

        Also, kudos on the Pedroia reference. He was drafted when Luis Urias was 6 years old. I wouldn’t place tons of credence on a team’s lucky draft pick from 15 years ago.

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