TODAY: The deal is official, as per a simple tweet from the Phillies’ Twitter feed stating “We got him.”
THURSDAY, 7:23pm: Harper will receive a $10MM salary and a $20MM signing bonus for the upcoming season, tweets Heyman. He’ll then be paid $26MM annually from 2020-28 and $22MM annually from 2029-31.
1:51pm: The Phillies and star outfielder Bryce Harper have made quite the commitment to one another, according to reports. The sides have agreed in principle to a 13-year, $330MM deal that puts Harper in Philadelphia through his age-38 season.
Unlike virtually all recent mega-contracts, this one comes without caveats. Harper gets full no-trade rights and does not possess any opt-out opportunities. The contract won’t come with deferrals, though it is said to have a front-loaded structure.
The end to Harper’s drawn-out free agency seemed to come suddenly. It may be that the Phillies finally met his asking price after late-breaking interest from the Dodgers and Giants.
When the dust settled, Harper had landed the biggest contract in MLB history. He just tops the $325MM guarantee the Marlins gave Giancarlo Stanton over a 13-year term, though it’s important to note that deal came in an extension scenario.
In taking the largest overall contract, Harper did make a clear sacrifice on average annual value. He’ll earn just over $25MM per season annually, well under the $30MM average commanded recently by Manny Machado in his deal with the Padres and $33.4MM promised in the seven new seasons covered by Nolan Arenado’s extension with the Rockies.
That reduced annual value won’t likely mean much in the way of sacrificed earning power, as it covers only three late-career seasons. It does help the Phillies to reduce the annual competitive balance tax hit from the signing, which could assist the organization as it looks to maintain competitiveness over a long marriage with its new star.
Beyond the market impact, this move sets the stage for a fascinating season (and beyond) in the National League East. The Phillies, Nationals, and Mets have all made win-now moves in hopes of dethroning a Braves team that is still full of young talent.
Harper’s move up the interstate from D.C. brings an end to a productive tenure with the Nats, reversing the career arc of recently retired former teammate Jayson Werth on a much grander scale. Harper’s exciting debut campaign was punctuated by a memorable run-in with the Phillies and then-ace Cole Hamels, the club that the Nationals were then seeking to eclipse as the premier outfit in the division.
The Washington organization did make a run at keeping Harper, but wasn’t able to work things out. Some might say that he’d have been better off taking the ten-year, $300MM offer that was reportedly put on the table. Reports have made clear that a roughly a third of that money would have been deferred, greatly driving down its true value.
Rather than take a deferred contract, Harper searched for and found the type of fully guaranteed, non-deferred deal he sought with the Philadelphia organization. The move punctuates an offseason that lived up to expectations for the Phillies’ faithful. The club already added the game’s best catcher in J.T. Realmuto, acquired a strong shortstop in Jean Segura, and added veterans including Andrew McCutchen and David Robertson. It’s imaginable that there’s more still to come, though perhaps the initial focus will be on making a roster-clearing move to accommodate the newest addition.
Investing in Harper gives the Phillies the game’s most recognizable player. He’s also quite a good one, even if he hasn’t shown that he can consistently produce at the otherworldly levels he did in a magical 2015 season. Harper’s ups and downs have come with a very lofty mean, of course — he’s a .279/.388/.512 career hitter with 184 home runs in nearly four thousand career plate appearances — though the aggregate remains every so slightly disappointing given his nearly unmatched talent level. Defensive questions arose last year, as Harper graded quite poorly. That was cause for concern in some quarters, though there’s also reason to believe that he can turn things around.
We at MLBTR would be remiss not to acknowledge that the out-on-a-limb estimation we put forth on Harper early in the offseason — a 14-year pact worth $420MM — ultimately proved to be a dramatic overreach. At the time of our initial top 50 rankings, we were of the belief that because Harper and Machado were non-traditional free agents (i.e. legitimate superstars who’d not yet played their age-26 seasons), traditional contractual structures wouldn’t apply to them. With so much talk in the preceding offseason about the teams who bend over backward to dip below the luxury tax in advance of this offseason’s crop of free agents, our team fully anticipated a widespread level of interest that simply never came to fruition.
Rather, with only three to four serious bidders for most of the winter, Harper and Boras had to claw to reach a point at which we expected the bidding to begin. The end result — a significantly lengthier term with the intent of tamping down the average annual value/luxury tax hit — was, as noted at the time, a highly plausible outcome, though securing a record-setting guarantee required lowering the AAV further than our forecast.
Predictions aside, Harper’s deal sets a new high-water mark on which premier players of the future will set their sights when seeking open-market contracts or, at least, extensions on the cusp of free agency. One can imagine, to varying extents, the Harper guarantee at least serving as a talking point when Mike Trout and Mookie Betts, both controlled through the 2020 season, begin to take an earnest look at their next contracts. Of course, they’d reach free agency at three and two years older than Harper was this winter, respectively, so it’s far from a direct comparison. But, as the Stanton contract did in this instance, the Harper contract will now serve as a barometer that agents and superstar players alike will aim to topple — even if by only a narrow measure.
Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link) first reported the deal. Jeff Passan of ESPN.com (Twitter links) and Jim Bowden of The Athletic (Twitter link) had the key terms, with Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post (Twitter link) and MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez (via Twitter) adding details.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
SupremeZeus
Release!! Ahhhhh!!!
PickleRiccck
Reeeeeeeeeee he can do some buy chicken tendies now! Reeeeeeeeeeee!
TwinsVet
r/WSB. Classic.
lowtalker1
Boot camp flash back
When you said reeeeeee
I was like reeee cover
jeffmaz
Thanks Dodgers and Giants for joining in just to run up the bill – nowhere near serious – they did literally get the Phillies to bid against themselves.
theoepsteinhof
You can thank Boras. His job is to drive up the bidding by feigning interest from other teams.
darylict
Actually, if you look at the contract, that’s far from the truth – by going to 13 years, you greatly reduce AAV, luxury tax implications, and taxes. When you account for inflation on top of it, the Phillies make out better than a 10/300 deal
a dawg
. Harper isn’t gonna give in a full effort for most of the 13 years. Honestly about half of his production is from one year Phillies will be jumping to trade that contract after 5.
As for a 10 300 deal padres aren’t gonna have that contract past year 5 someone will get it.
Nathead
Somebody should check the numbers in this article. 30 + 8*26 + 4*22 = $326 miillion. Just how much is this deal worth? Was it done just to eclipse the Stanton deal?
bikeboffitt
for sure the phillies will regret this sighning…trying to trade him after 4 or 5 seasons. I predict a lot of injuries to Harper….the Phillies must have a stupid owner
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Manny was smart enough to get an opt out after 5 years. Harper is a complete moron for not getting at least 3 opt outs 3 extra years for basically the same deal as Machado with 10 mil a year the last 3 years. Machado gets 30 mil a year.
sam 17
@Nathead It’s 9*26 + 3*22 (+30)
Le Grande Orangerie
Obviously it was to eclipse the Stanton deal. I didn’t think there was any doubt about that.
callingoutdummies247
He will give 100% effort. He’s an ego maniac and wants to be the best ever. His talent just isn’t at that level
Numbr1bballfan
you miss chance to be with giants harper. you think chance like being giant come offen? now wont be protect by all our grate hitters posey longo belt panda just to name FEW. good luck with phillies harper but your dreams wood only come true with giants but the door close now so to late sorry
Stevil
The bad English and bitterness made your comment semi-entertaining, I’ll give you that.
rodster
No one is going to the public defecation capital of the world. The state is in the toilet as are the Giants.
WarrenSpahn
love the engrish…
hsmitham
Now, now Mrs.Rodster go back into hiding. The cornfield is your domain your safe there.
Ty1990
YOU’RE
Yankeedynasty
All your base are belong to us
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
He was never gonna go to San fran.
WarrenSpahn
agreed. it was just Larry Baer’s way of telling the Giants faithful that they are “trying”. Larry is the happiest person in the world not named Mr. and Mrs. Harper…
xabial
Oh Harper my Harper 🙁
Wanted you on the Yankees
sam 17
There’s still Mike Trout in 2 years from now 😉
Colorado Red
New CBA by then, no one knows what will happen,.
todd76
@ sam. Spankees won’t get Trout either.
southpaw2153
Thank God the Yanks passed on this stiff. Xabial only wanted him on the team because she likes his hair.
AtlSoxFan
Yankees will take Betts. He’s a better player, they love them some redsox OF, and, I can’t see DD and company opening the checkbooks enough
ColossusOfClout
Signed for $330 Million, exactly as I predicted in a post last week!
richdanna
You and 400 other media outlets. Congrats!
ColossusOfClout
All they were saying was greater than Machado’s 300. I didn’t see any 330 predictions, wiseaxx.
ChiSox_Fan
He is likely to average only 120 games per season over 13 years.
What a joke.
Overpaid.
AndyMeyer
How is he overpaid? Stop it
Jason Hayward is OVERPAID
a dawg
He’s getting paid for his mvp year every year for 13 years maybe he gets back to that mvp production but I’d rather see it.
heater
Not really. He’s only averaging $25mm/per when most thought he’d be looking for over $30mm. This is not near the deal he probably shoulda have signed. Phillies got a great deal for this guy.
diddlez
@a dawg, im pretty sure he didnt sign a billion dollar contract
callingoutdummies247
He’s over paid because he’s Jay Bruce with .30 better average
live42day
Good point.
live42day
Agreed that Jason Heyward is grossly overpaid.
MiddleIn
25 mill AAV is easily absorbed by the Phillies. They are still close to 50 mill under luxury. He can DH later too when NL changes.
live42day
I would say everyone thought he was waiting to pass Stanton’s money. Did you predict the 13 years to do it?
Congrats to the ego maniac that is Bryce Harper. Dumb move by the Phillies.
todd76
Xabial is somewhere crying his eyes out.
AidanVega123
Finally
Paramatic
Well done to Bryce for holding out for that extra 5-10 million. Now you will be able to buy whatever it is you were saving up for.
DFAed in Gaffa
When he goes to Trader Joe’s, he can splurge on organic bananas for 25 cents each instead of regular bananas for 19 cents.
User 355748524
BREAKING: Harper finalizes contract with Trader Joe’s, garunteed 330M dollars worth of organic bananas over 13 years.
fmj
well there it is
CursedRangers
So he went through all that drama to play 3 more years for $30M combined? I get the value of deferred money, but compared to the original deal Washington offered it sure seems light. Apparent that Boras and Harper only cared about setting the record. Glad it’s over…
Moneyballer
It’s not that simple. He got no opt out clauses, guaranteed contract with a full no trade clause. Basically got everything he could possibly want.
sam 17
An opt out clause is more valuable to the player.
semut
“Woohoo!! I gots me no opt-outs!!”
Willy Mays
How is no opt out good for the player.If he had an opt out after 3 years and had an MVP caliber year that year he could opt out for a 30 mill per contract if he had bad years he just wouldn’t opt out The only opt out Harper ever would have gotten is one for him not for the team. Thats just not the way it works
a dawg
And strangely he didn’t want one
mike.gordon34
Deferred or not, pretty sure $300 million is $300 million. Just proves this was never a team guy. Good luck Philly.
petfoodfella
Eh, don’t be salty. He wanted what he wanted, and got it. Show me a MLB free agent that’s all about the team?
murphydog
Dodgers miss the boat again
jbs32
Money today is worth significantly more than money 15 years from now. Major deferrals would have a pretty big impact on the actual value of the contract
wildthing vaughn
Beware the Philly keyboard gangsters!!!!!
Geoinfoguy
False, the value of the dollar is far different today,than it was in 2000 and certainly different than in 1950. The Nationals “300 million dollar contract “ was actually valued at a $274 million dollar contract because of the backloaded structure.
KnicksFanCavsFan
how does that make him a “non- team” guy? because he took the most money? get real.
WarrenSpahn
Its called Net Present Value. To be more thorough, one would assign a dollar value to any missed opportunities from doing the deal.,,
Eric Maxfield
Mitch Moreland and Steven Pierce!!
a dawg
I thought the reported 180 over 4 years was a good offer
live42day
He didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted over $400 million – remember?
Laughing
I am not a Dodger fan but if he was offered $40 million a year for 4 years and turned that down then he didn’t bet on himself. He took what he could get and I don’t blame him for that. Good luck in 5 years Phillies.
Solar Flare
Yes, the Dodgers did indeed offer him $45 million per year over 4 years.
sam 17
Yes it is cheap.
However, I’d like to see how front loaded it is, it does give it more value.
Paramatic
It does look as if Bryce/Boras were only holding out for enough money to break Stanton’s record.
Would be funny if the Angels extended Trout for more money next week!
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Trout will easily beat 330 mil and he’s earned it. Harper is overrated and I’m glad the Cubs didnt trade Heyward happ and Schwarber to clear money for him. I’d take heywaes 12 home runs and 75-80 rbi every day of the week over Harper who will probably want out after 6 years. The Phillies will as well but no one is taking any of that deal.
PeeWeeGaskins
Boo Ya
tigersfan1320
Dang it seemed like the chances of him signing with the Phillies were getting lower and lower each day
habsphannn
Exactly what I thought, especially with LA and SF making so much noise since the Sunday meeting in Vegas.
ABStract
Thank Zeus he didn’t sign that ridiculous contract with the Giants!
They scared me though…
deweybelongsinthehall
Front loading makes sense but the years? Scary because Trout and Betts are head and shoulders above Harper. He and Boras aren’t complaining but to save face they took on three extra years compared to Machado with no opt out.
123redsox
The aav is 25 … Not record breaking.
CursedRangers
No doubt. Three extra years at a substantial discount….
Boras has a ton of clients left unsigned. Will be interesting to see what happens now that this soap opera is over. The market for Dallas has been eerily quiet.
deweybelongsinthehall
Total value exceeded Stanton’s deal.
proof2006
The years lowers at AAV. That could be huge at points in the contract
tarheels23
Im a dodger fan im so disgusted with this team they need to sell the team to somebody that wants to spend money and get some stars to come play in la.get to 2 world series and cant win and this years team worst than last year team dodger fans should be outraged
deweybelongsinthehall
You’re kidding right? Dodgers re-upped with Kershaw and overpaid for his past so he’ll retire a Dodger. Their total payroll will still be near the top. I’d love to see the Sox spend more but I realize they like the Yankees have big future obligations to consider. I assume the Dodgers do as well.
14thor
I’m disgusted by Dodgers fans saying stuff like you just said. The 2019 looks much better than last year’s team. First, we have a much healthier Corey Seager. 3 players that weren’t on the opening day roster last year: Walker Buehler, Max Muncy and Justin Turner. Turner was injured over a month so that’s different, but he’s healthy now.
I’m looking to Bellinger to improve, Urias and Verdugo to contribute more as well.
This team is solid and spending $330 million on any one player is ridiculous. What if he suffers a serious injury?
murphydog
Seager replaces Manny. Bad!
Netflix&RichHill
The dodgers payroll, right now, sits at 192 million. That’s 4th highest in the league. They have 2 world series appearances in the last 2 years. They are set up for years of winning and they’re staying below the luxury tax threshold for now to make sure they have flexibility and sustainability. Your statement, as I myself am a dodgers fan, sounds wildly ungrateful and unfortunately echoed by too many.
jamesorange12
Try being a pirates fan
habsphannn
They still have Dave Roberts. Also bad.
Willy Mays
Tarheel. That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read
deweybelongsinthehall
it what a steal in 2004. Good!
a dawg
Try being a Mets fan were in New York and used money ball tactics prior to this year
deweybelongsinthehall
Madoff, SNY and stadium obligations created that small market environment. Hopefully for Mets’ fans, such is mostly behind you.
live42day
Jamesorange12 – for some reason I read your post in the tone of an English man like from the holy grail. Ha ha. Awesome
stymeedone
I never thought Philly had a chance. I’ll go eat my crow pie now.
axisofhonor25
Finally! I can draft my team
letimmysmoke55
he’s gonna hit 50 outta that park
deweybelongsinthehall
Hopefully he stays on the good side of Kapler and the fans. Philly fans are the hardest on all players as everyone knows and forget Papelbon, Kapler is one guy you don’t mess with.
Ejemp2006
Harper has great media personality. Drama between him and Philly fans will draw more eyes and ears to MLB. Big win today for baseball marketing.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
2019 he’ll hit 25 and 2020 he’ll hit another 25 home runs.
Phillies will win the division 2 times in 13 years. And it wont be til 2021 that they’ll win the division..Arrieta will be gone. Cutch will be in his last year. Realmuto will be gone. Jean Segura will be gone.
giantsfandfw
I won’t believe it till I see multiple articles. Go Giants!
PeeWeeGaskins
Rebuild, bro
ABStract
Go Giants!
Harper would have hamstrung the team for a decade plus, be happy they didn’t sign him
Plus, who could root for him even he was if on their favorite team?
Soooooo happy he’s not a Giant!
I’ll happily endure another losing season or two if it means no Harper
icky_Bundy
That’s because you’re a loser, but go Giants, or whatever.
ABStract
And you’re basing this on…?
Cuz u totally sound like a winner
“Or whatever”
…wow, u must be a genius
WarrenSpahn
That’s the spirit! Be glad one of the game’s best players didn’t join your team. Woo Hoo!
dwight 2
Thank you Harper! It’s finally over.
path501@yahoo.com 2
I bet they ponies to get him to sign. I’m thinking 10 years 350 million
Coast1
This has to be wrong. People have written on here repeatedly that Harper hates Philadelphia, his wife hates Philadelphia, and that if he hadn’t signed by now he’d never sign with them.
CobiEven
Money talks and BS walks.
DarkSide830
according the west coast fans he abhors the East with all his being and would only stay there for double the salary and would have to be the manager as well.
RunDMC
Him and Kapler are a match made in heaven. Hope there’s cameras to catch the inevitable.
Swinging Friars
um most of that narrative was coming from chicago and philly fans
I don’t know about the rest of the west…..but i’m going to crack a beer, smoke a bowl, and enjoy the sunshine… Bryce who?
Nice work Philly!
ABStract
We agree again
Although its not exactly sunny in the Bay right now…and I’m at work…but I’m with u in spirit
WarrenSpahn
rather have Machado than Harper. Padres did well.
live42day
Hey swinging Friars – can get a hit off of that bowl man? I’m loving this drama.
Swinging Friars
absolutely, all are welcome
slow start but that stove got juicy hot towards the end!
highplainsdriftr
All it took was a record breaking contract to prove it was where he wanted to be all along
Prospectnvstr
It’s all relative to perspective. Yes, he got the biggest monetary TOTAL contract in MLB history. He didn’t get an Arenado AAV contract 32m/ per yr nor a Machado contract of 30m/ per yr. His contract is a little over 25 million per year. Thinking in the big picture, this could be a reasonable contract (considering we’re talking MLB/monopoly money).
live42day
But he was reported to have been offered 40 million a year for 4 years by the Dodgers. Go win some World Series and go back into free agency at age 30. Max out your money boy!!
tigersfan1320
He must’ve realized he wasn’t getting anymore money that he could in Philadelphia
snotrocket
Maybe his side chick likes it there…
geejohnny
Uh oh….now what else is there to check MLBTR for?
SheaGoodbye
The comments of course! Since they’re often so insightful and full of healthy discourse. /s
DadsInDaniaBeach
Dallas will sign with the Phils..Boras is his agent..on good terms with Klentak and Middleton…No Kimbrel please
Get Tased at CBP
If that happens, we’ll have 2 players in Philly named Dallas. I’m torn.
socraticgadfly
Next, you can dig up Dallas Green
dcrising
Nats sign Keuchel to troll Bryce and have Keuchel and Corbin (both lefties) to face Bryce for years to come.
jmi1950
Keuchel, Kimbrel and a cast of a hundred extras are still FAs.
batty
Closer to 40 left.
UGA_Steve
And of those 40, only about 10 worth having around.
This nonsense about a slow free agent market is just that. As of a month ago 40+ of the top 50 on most lists had already signed. The rest were waiting on two guys to try to get best dollar. The media bashing owners, but this was not a bad off-season. It was not 1980’s and 90’s ‘sign everyone before Christmas’ type stuff, but things have changed.
Now, I heard the Phils are still in on Keuchel. If they sign him, maybe the Braves will be able to get Kimbrel for a smaller deal as he will have few suitors left.
bucketbrew35
Miracles do happen!
acarneglia
NOOOOOO
anthony c
Only 3 months late
Padres2019ha
At least Doyers didn’t get him
captainsalty
You’re team is so sad your happiness is based off a superior franchise’s misfortunes, if that’s what you’d call this…get a life
petfoodfella
Oh jesus, sally, get off your high horse.
captainsalty
You can go get a life too
petfoodfella
Got one, and on my lunch break it involves reading MLBTR, quit screwing that up with your stupid, childish banter.
ABStract
Guess I’m also in need of a life ya crusty ‘ol sea troll!
jbird669
Superior Franchise? 2 World Series titles in 135 years. More losses than any other MLB team. Tell me more about how superior they are.
MrSeptember
Swing and a miss. He was referring to the Dodgers and Padres if you follow along.
captainsalty
Following along isn’t as fun as just throwing out a blind rebuttal lol
Eta34
Such a sandy vagina. Good grief.
HalosHeavenJJ
The winter of our discontent is over?
Philly fan is going to love it when a ball drops three feet away from him. They are kind, compassionate fans I’ve heard.
rgreen
We’re gonna love it even more when him & Trout are high fiving each other,in a few short years.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Nice rg
HalosHeavenJJ
You’ll be happy to trade him to us after Trout signs his extension? I honestly don’t want him.
rrddbb44
lol
hiflew
Well this came out of nowhere. I wish we had the time to discuss where he could have went before this signing. It seems we just missed out.
Coast1
It’s been tough to talk about Harper with all the Adam Jones rumors taking up so much room
aj_54
Lol
DadsInDaniaBeach
I love sarcasm..
bballblk
Fr this offseason just FLEW by
brownies24
Wonder how much.
crazy4cleveland
Phillies have a strong roster this year
kenly0
Ok. But, where will Kimbrel sign?
DadsInDaniaBeach
Back in the ATL..
sf2win
Great news. What’s next?
petfoodfella
Well, time for Atlanta to trade Julio Teheran. Can’t have him giving up more dingers to Harper.
BravesCanada
Teheran for Vladdy…..Sr
sidbream1991
I would make that trade haha!
skarski10
It was time to trade Teheran a while ago….
CardsFan7
And now we can finally focus on opening day
Johnny Papelseed
It’s about time… I was hoping that Harper would have a blank jersey on the MLB the show cover though…
InPolesWeTrust
Finally. Sucks for Kimbrel.
AllRiseForTheJudge
The NY Post reported 20 minutes ago that the Dodgers were in the lead…
mike156
The NY Post has its hands full with bigger issues…..
DadsInDaniaBeach
mike156, the big question is how do they wash it off
PhilliePhan
Once again people, money is all that matters. City is basically a tiebreaker. Corbin didn’t end up in NY, Machado didn’t end up on the East Coast and Harper didn’t end up on the West Coast.
Prospectnvstr
Yeah, Harper signed for an average of a little more than $25 million per yr for 13 yrs. That’s like signing a Buy 11 years get 2 free when compared to the Manny/ SD contract.
Michael Chaney
About time. I was so tired of this entire saga.
brewcrew08
10yr 350M is my guess
brewcrew08
Dang just missed it
VonPurpleHayes
330 it seems.
DadsInDaniaBeach
330 for 13 years
K R Stemen
$160 million for his talent and another 170 million for ego fuel.
The Human Toilet
Was not aware Phillies were on him
VonPurpleHayes
But the narrative…he hates Philadelphia…
Don’t believe every rumors kids.
geejohnny
Maybe….but he LOVES their money. I’m not a fan but I’ll be watching when the Philly fans boo his butt when he goes into one of his extended slumps. It will happen and he will mouth off to them.
dcrising
Nats fans dealt with his slumps…Philly fans will bring pitchforks. Good luck, Bryce.
c ya
Mazel Tov!
nymetsking
Just before signing on the dotted line, he’ll have 2nd thoughts
bobbleheadguru
Giants win.
Did not let their owner make a dumb long term deal…
and do not have to face him as a Dodger short term.
snotrocket
Bingo
giantsguy41
Agree. Would’ve been a nice addition for sure but that’s a lotta cash and a lotta years. Him going to LA would’ve hurt.
mrpadre19
Be careful….a Padre fan said they were glad he didn’t go to the Dodgers and got railed against.
I guess you can’t be happy here if a guy doesn’t go to your rival.
Vizionaire
congratulations to phillies and harper. also they will have to be satisfied because trout isn’t coming to you!
VonPurpleHayes
You may be right. That’s why the Phillies needed to get Harper. They still have plenty of money to try and land the big fish (no pun intended), but there’s no guarantee he leaves the Angels.
DadsInDaniaBeach
agree Von..I would think they will do everything possible to entice him to extend…should he reach FA, then the Phillies will be in play
jbird669
Love your logo. I live 10 minutes from their stadium. One of the best sports experiences out there.
captainsalty
If the Angels end up continuing to be the dumpster of the AL West he won’t be resigning with the Angels
Vizionaire
sorry, mate. but it is re-sign not resign.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Gotta produce now Bryce to justify this ridiculous contract standoff. If he fails, Philly fans will destroy him!
BobSacamano
Really good point. God bless philly and their phans, but they’re out of control hahah. I can’t imagine trying to come out of a slump in that city. Good luck to both, baseball is back!!
stevenlhume
12 YEARS 415
DarkSide830
Hope they have him the three year opt-out. 3 years would be the dream in my mind.
Grizalt
Why would you want to lose him after 3 years when you have him signed for well below market value?
goldenmisfit
Worst mistake he could have ever made for two reasons. First he’s not going to win in Philadelphia because now they will not have the money to get the pitching they need. Second this offer has been on the table for over three weeks he was looking for a reason not to sign sale to the Philadelphia fans he is not signing because he desperately wanted to be a Philadelphia Phillies he signed it because it was the highest offer.
DadsInDaniaBeach
misfit
JPADA
Why does that make one bit of difference? 99% of players take the money. I would and I expect that you would too, even if you wouldn’t admit it.
Kennypowers999
Phillies still aren’t going to win the world series. Haha spend that stupid money. Dodgers wait for trout hahaha.
Coast1
Keep dreaming. Trout isn’t going to the Dodgers.
Kennypowers999
He won’t go to Philly neither
Coast1
He lives in suburban Philly. His wife teaches school there. It’s the only place he ever wanted to play.
Kennypowers999
Will see angel aren’t going to let him go.
DadsInDaniaBeach
correct…if Trout does reach FA, then the Phillies will be in play..
Swinging Friars
Did we learn nothing from all this??
southbeachbully
I love how you can act as if you know anything about who will win.
AndyMeyer
Neither are the dodgers
gooddumps
Jon Heyman with the report……
Bunselpower
Where did the Phillies come from? Wow, did not see them as players at all.
InvalidUserID
Finalllyyyyyyyyyyyy…
/TheRock
Thronson5
Damn. Well at least he isn’t going to the Giants.
nmc420theambassador
i’m only here to remind everyone MLBINSIDER needs to delete his twitter now. if you have a twitter account remind that buffoon for me plz k thnx
Z-A 2
13 years? 25AAV? Interesting.
DarkSide830
13 at 330 and no opt outs…no way that is right…
thethrill
Yeah I feel like it’s could be bad for Phillies and Harper both, usually someone wins. 13yrs will be bad for Philly after 5-6 years but no opt outs?? Harper is stuck and can’t leave! Weird
Yankeepatriot
Jesus crist 13 years ? !!!!!!! Lmaooooooo. That’s insane !!!!!!!!! Especially for a guy that while he is an elite talent e hasn’t been a consistent elite player in his career. Giant fans you should be happy he took this deal
Now what happens to Dallas and Kimbrel ? Do the Phills spend on one of them too ?
zachgwest
I’m sure It’s more about spreading out the term of the contract…. I don’t understand why they don’t have 20 year contracts? Account for a 5% interest rate. Kinda like winning the lottery take this 200m now or 300m over 20 years?
AllRiseForTheJudge
lol name one person who wouldn’t take the 200m now. there’s no guarantee you’ll live another 20 years to collect the 300m
BobSacamano
Ohh I thought you were talking about Giancarlo Stanton there for a minute.
mlb1225
The saga, it’s finally come to an end!
socraticgadfly
What if Harper failed his physical? We could get a whole NEW saga!
IBFarr
FINALLY!!!
rez2405 2
YES!! Trout will stay an Angel!!
captainsalty
They better start winning
theredsoxrule
Trout will not stay…remember i told you…
DadsInDaniaBeach
Dads<—a very happy camper
modifish
Dads, I’m thrilled with this…the no opt out on Harper’s part is big to me…makes a strong statement to Philadelphia that he wants to be here and all the gossip was wrong….what a lineup top to bottom…now one more starter…
DadsInDaniaBeach
works for me…
VonPurpleHayes
They didn’t go over 330 which makes me happy, but 13 years. Hope it works out!
normanbates
13 years $330mil, no opt outs. Ridiculous….
chrisbluediamond
It says they arw working on a opt out clause
normanbates
Just saw that. Passan feom ESPN originally reported no opt outs. Just crazy…
CoachBlake
Smarter than 330 over 10 years. Brings down the luxury tax hit. And if it’s front loaded, like it states, he shouldn’t be making much by the time he’s in his mid to late 30’s. Nelson Cruz is 38 and has averaged 40 homeruns over the last 5 seasons. I bet Bryce is at least a 40 win player over the course of this contract.
Norm Chouinard
We’re going to find out how thick Bryce’s skin is. Philly is tougher than most on their players when they strike out with runners on base in the 9th.
snotrocket
So 10 at like 310 with opt out wouldn’t have got the job done?
pustule bosey
13 years yeeesh.
chrisbluediamond
So no one going to say anything about the 13 years? 0_0
SoCalBrave
As a Braves’ fan I love and hate this! I hate it for obvious reasons, he’s still in the NL East, but I love it because it will be fun watching Phillyphan booing him when he doesn’t run out a grounder or misplays a routine fly out.
Cup'ojoe Simpson
2019: the year the Braves never watered the garden and watched it all go to waste.
MasterShake
Eh I’m okay with it, as long as we can keep Teheran off the mound against him lol
Marc (Phillies Phan)
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KnicksFanCavsFan
i don’t get the hate. almost like you guys are going hoping it becomes a disaster
GarryHarris
As many here said, the SFG and LAD meetings were just to get more from PHI.
DarkSide830
he was going to get 330 regardless. had nothing to do with the other teams involved.
sampsonite168
Fine by me. Zero chance he ends up being worth that.
ac106
Phillies will be looking to move this contract a third of the way through mark my words
Willy Mays
Who will trade for him at 30 with 9 years still on his contract when you’ve probably already missed out on his best years.Trading him will be like Yankees trading Elsburyor Cubs trading Heyward an impossibility
pustule bosey
or pujols, this really feels like a Pujols signing
averagejoe15
This is almost nothing like the Pujols signing. There’s just no comparison to a 26 year old signing an enormous contract versus a player over 30. Even more, the length helps the AAV, the front loading helps the income statement on the tail end.
MJShep
If they do want to move him in the second half of the deal, the contract is much more attractive with the lower AAV than a straight 10/330 that everyone was expecting
nowheretogobutup
He has a no trade clause so I don’t get what you’re saying
Victoroy
Harper is gonna eat up Citzen’s Bank Park. Time to draft him on every fantasy team.
sacball
13 YEARS!!! LOLOLOLOL
Yankeepatriot
It took 13 years and no opt outs for him to sign. I truly think he was trying to avoid the Phillies but they threw everything AND the kitchen sink at him lol
jdgoat
Opt outs are good for the player man
cubswon
That’s exactly it. He wanted Cubs or Dodgers but Cubs weren’t in on him and Dodgers refused to go long term. The Phils negotiated against themselves in the end and Harper better enjoy those WC game appearances because they aren’t a WS team even with him.
raef715
no, boras caved on everything….
ib6ub9
SUCKERS
#L1C4Life
Thank GOD its finally over!!!! Geez man.
Yankeepatriot
If the Phillies ever want out of this contract good luck with that too
Steve Ganci
A waste of money. Yes lotsa homers, also lotsa headaches and no hustle. Lousy teammate just ask Papelbon.
slowcurve
While I loved watching Pap, I don’t think you want to base any decision on what comes from his mouth. #chokeslam
jdgoat
Lmao just ask Papelbon. Ya let’s ask one of the games biggest dbags for his opinion on a superstar signing
captainsalty
Pap was the one who was a horrible team mate
VonPurpleHayes
All due respect to Jon Heyman, he tweeted about 1 gazillion times, and didn’t break any details. Does he deserve to lose some cred here?
DadsInDaniaBeach
LOL, Von , did he have any to begin with? (*_^)
Aircool
You ever think that maybe Ken Rosenthal just sells some breaking news to him every once in a while. Jon gets a career due to “some” credibility that he purchases. And Ken gets some extra cash for info he’ll announce for free anyways. Could any of us really say this isn’t true? Hehehehehe
DadsInDaniaBeach
Steve? You’re using Paps as a point of reference? Really?
c ya
So he wasn’t signing anywhere unless he beat Stanton, of course, an effin head case more than ever.
Phillies, gave him 13 years, no opt outs.
Phillies have a nice team. I wish them luck.
yamsi1912
Now the Halos can beat it with a Trout extension.
david klein
And after Nightengale moved to saying it was a long shot and he’s wrong again as always. As a Mets fan I gotta say this really sucks.
Moneyballer
Wow a contract through age 39! He’ll make 25mil a season for almost every year in his 30’s! A little surprised he didn’t opt for a shorter term higher AV but hey he should be very happy about this deal, no doubt.
DarkSide830
please Sherman, hope you are right.
hammerlicious
330 over 13 years??? All that waiting to sign for just over 25M per year is not exactly that impressive. Manny got 30 plus an opt out
Yankeepatriot
They were so desperate to get a lower AAV that they gave him that many years
raef715
no, they gave the extra years to get Boras over Stanton’s 325 like he promised Bryce.
natsgm
Thats exactly it. This deal is as impressive as it seems. No opt outs, only 25 mil aav. Phils made out here. Crazy good for them
baseballpun
Well, the question will be, I guess, whether Manny will be able to get $10m/year when he’s aged 37-39.
martras
Don’t know how it’s structured. This contract could be front loaded to start at $35, working it’s way down by $1.6M per year to a final salary of $15.8M or something like that.
If it’s flat, yeah, I wouldn’t want to have a 36-38 year old Harper under contract at $25M / year, and I’m also not too impressed with the current AAV either.
Or maybe it’s 10/300 with the final 3 years being 10M? Who knows yet?
Coast1
From a finance standpoint paying Bryce Harper more in his age 36-38 years means you’re paying him less money. $25 million in 2019 and $25 million in 2029 is worth less than $35 million in 2019 and $15 million in 2029.
itslonelyatthetrop
Did they include the Liberty Bell, too?
Cam
I would say, the 13 years is just purely to bring down the AAV of the contract, for tax purposes. It’s all about the guaranteed money here.
DarkSide830
dont think he really won here. he passes the total value bar, but you’d have to think he wanted more AVV than Machado, which he failed to get.
Cam
I guess it depends what floats his ego more. The 3 extra years are really just token years – it’s unlikely he will be a productive player at that stage.
It’s more beneficial for the Phillies to pay him X over 13, than X over 10, as it brings down the AAV for the tax line, and he can simply be released at the back end.
mj-2
13 years? Lol Philly goof’d hard.
PinstripedPride
Congratulations Bryce Harper and Scott Boras
SoCalBrave
congratulations Phillies, this seems like a loss for Boras, although it may be what Harper wanted.
Yankeepatriot
Dear cashman. As this off season has gone on you have looked smarter and smarter by the day
Yours truly yankeepatriot
Willy Mays
Thank you Yankeepatriot .I couldn’t agree with you more
AndyMeyer
Solid offseason by the bombers for sure
leftcoaster
Thank God the Dodgers didn’t bite!
Yankeepatriot
Giants and dodger fans should be happy lol
spudchukar
Stupid Money!
SheaGoodbye
On the one hand, I’m glad my team isn’t paying for that contract.
On the other hand, Harper is still in my division, and will continue to smack our pitching around through the rest of his prime.
So basically it’s an average day for me. A little bit of good, quite a bit more bad.
DarkSide830
front loaded, no opt outs, 13 years, and 25 a year average? hard to believe really. ill believe it when its official.
raef715
our long city nightmare is finally over!
and it was the JD martinez negotiation all over again….all sorts of subterfuge from Boras and company but no substance behind it.
PhilliePhan
Agree, I don’t understand why so many people couldn’t see through the BS when this happened last year. All of the “he doesn’t want to come to Philly” people please remember this the next few offseasons.
DadsInDaniaBeach
PP, they won’t..it spoils the narrative
rs04071318
It’s easy for me to believe a player might not want to go to Philly. I’ve been there twice and wouldn’t want to go back for even a quick visit. What a dirty, unpleasant city. And the fans…I’ve never been to a place where the fans booed their own players so frequently and so intensely. What’s to like about that?
VonPurpleHayes
You’ve never been to Philly. Troll post.
rs04071318
If believing that makes you feel better, go with it.
Swinging Friars
When I still had my season tickets, Pit & Phi fans were the most fun. Had outfield seats, there were always new people in the row behind us. They talked their chit but always had smiles on their faces. Way more fun than the average out-of=towner
fs54
Best of luck to Harper and Phillies! I wish it works out for both sides.
Victoroy
He’s going to be so much fun to watch in that park. As a Mets fan I’m sad but as a baseball fan I’m excited!
fs54
I hope so, unless he is playing against my team.
joepanikatthedisco
That IS stupid money. Oy vey!
Yankeepatriot
More like stupid negotiating. What a horrible contract and the rest of the details aren’t even out yet. No opt outs ? !!!
AndyMeyer
Seriously? Lesser AAV. Gives them the flexibility to possibly resign Realmuto, extend Hoskins and to go after free agents in the coming years with more sustained success
Stupid negotiating? Hardly
Stupid money spend wisely
Cat Mando
Anyone in SD wanna trade?
KCJ
Well thank god. Good to see that he was able to top the $325 mil barrier, as I’m sure that just would have CRUSHED his and Boras’ massive egos if they didn’t set the record…even though he had to add 3 years to do it. Good for you guys, we’re all real impressed.
YankeesJames
If he accepted 13 years at $330 then there’s no way anyone else offered him anywhere near 10 yrs at $300. Boras was bluffing about multiple $300m offers the whole time.
realgone2
phillies outbid themselves.
Bryzzo2016
This
DadsInDaniaBeach
Just was notified that the deal is 13 years…that’s hard to believe with the $330m number
realgone2
Hahahhahah. 13 years ?
neverender82
If I’m a Phillies fan I guess I’m excited, but this is a frightening contract. This kind of thing for a team like that always ends up with the player getting hit by a bus his first year
DarkSide830
im sure there is insurance in that sense, and it may not count towards the cap. Not an expert, but that makes sense in my mind. either way, $25 million a year is is much less then the potential $30-$35 million or more.
Willy Mays
Jacoby Elsbury was 7 years 153 mill about 21 mill a year how did that work out and that contract surely didn’t last till Elsbury was 39. It’s usually the length of the contract more then the yearly pay that makes a longer contract untenable.When Harper reaches 33-34 Philly fans will start crying
JFactor
Wow, only 25 per year
martras
Seems like Philly blinked.
Daver520
Ok so THIS guy only knocked in 100 RBI’s AND only hit <35 HR’s ONCE … he may be marketable BUT the pay for that production is RIDICULOUS !!!
nowheretogobutup
He also had 150K’s I guess nowadays players also get paid for K’s or at least it seems
Scrap1ron
Throw enough stupid money and anything can happen. Hope he works out for you Phillies fans, he’s yours till he turns 39.
Ry.the.Stunner
That’s a lonnnnggg contract to have no opt outs for, especially when it’s for a team you’ve expressed a desire not to play for.
fs54
When did Harper say he did not want to play for Phillies?
Ry.the.Stunner
“For what it’s worth, my source who is close to Bryce Harper tells me #Dodgers and #Cubs were 1st choices all along and he prefers not to sign with #Phillies. I’ve been hearing all winter that Harper does not want to play for Gabe Kapler due to analytics and quirky personality”
Is that definitive proof straight from his mouth:? No, but it’s been widely reported by many sources.
Coast1
His contract is for 13 years. He’ll be with the Phillies long after Kapler is fired.
Jimcarlo Slaton
He never has said he doesn’t want to play for the Philies…It’s hilarious the things sheep say over and over again… Baaah….Baaah
Rukidding
This will make the Howard deal look like pure genius in a few years. (And at least Ryan was a good guy who WANTED to be in Philly.)
Almost 6 decades of consistent fan loyalty shot to hell with this embarrassment. So long Phils; enjoy your shiny new toy.
AndyMeyer
Howard tore his Achilles and was never the same again
Who ever said Harper doesn’t want to be in Philly and how do you know he’s a “bad guy”? Stop it
ken48tribe
So now we can fire up the Trout to Philly rumors!
cubswon
Sure for 15years and $400M. The way the Phils are throwing money with Jake and now Harper who knows.
bjhaas1977
LOL this is like buying $330 million dollars in cigarettes! Enjoy your cancer Philadelphia!
lefty58
This makes the Nats the winner in all of this.
DarkSide830
and full no-trade…which doesn’t hurt at all if Harper really does prefer the West.
2weeks
Harper isnt even good below average defensive metrics and only 2 seasons where het over 300 and only 2 seasons he hit pver 30 homers the guy is over hyped
cubswon
I think Harper will be the Carmelo Anthony of MLB. The Phillies are still not a WS contender with his pick up. These albatross contracts are getting insane. I love KB but now he will want more than Harper after 2021. Teams are going to start realizing they need to trade these guys when they can sell high so they don’t end up like the Nats with nothing to show for it. They were out of it early and still held on to him.
Bunselpower
Ooh, that’s a great comp.
Paul Heyman
Have fun with that contract Philly.
SupremeZeus
Looks pretty clear his only goal was to beat the Stanton number and the Phillies were the only serious suitor. 13 years…woof. This guy is going to pack it in halfway through that albatross. The mutual hate will be palpable in years 11, 12 & 13. LOL.
Goose
Safe to say the Phillies will be dealing some OFs as Altherr, Quinn, Cozens and Williams are now all on the outside looking in. Maybe they package two of them to go get a solid veteran pitcher.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Full no trade clause…No opt out for Harper…says he didn’t want one..hows that for those that said he didn’t want to play there..
Coast1
Williams out of the lineup today even though they have a split squad and two outfielders are hurt.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Coast, he is the outfield lefty…now, not needed…also, Aaron Altherr is a solid glove
PhilliePhan
Nice observation. I wonder if they already have something lined up.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Cousins, Quinn, Goofy, Williams, Altherr, McCutchen, and Harper
could be 3 of those guys are going to unhappy..maybe more
Willy Mays
Yeah all you’ll have to do is find a team willing to trade a solid veteran pitcher for two mediocre outfielders That should be easy enough
hopper15
It’s a good thing they atleast frontloaded this deal.
stretch123
Philly just screwed up big time. Should’ve offered Trout 400 million when he’s a FA. He’s likely to actually be worth big money. Harper will decline once he’s 30.
Coast1
They will offer Trout $400 million.
DadsInDaniaBeach
No one should ASSume that Trout will reach FA..But, if he does, the Phillies have the loose change to get him
SoCalBrave
That is the great part of this deal, with only a 25.4 M average against the luxury tax, they can still afford to sign Trout. It won’t happen, but it doesn’t take them out.
Willy Mays
So 25.4 mill doesn’t take Philly out of Trout deal but 30 mill would’ve. That’s laughable
Kingmojo101
Happy for the phils but even more happier for the angels… they get a chance at extending Trout now that the phils pushed to sign Harper.
Yankeepatriot
I think he was close to being a dodger and the Phillies bent over. Either that or they fell for boras’s tricks
DadsInDaniaBeach
Really? How do you explain he didn’t want an opt out?
Gwynning's Anal Lover
Prediction of the Dodgers going “all in” on Trout when he’s a free agent.
DadsInDaniaBeach
former, the Dodgers and everyone else should go all in..
number1dodger
Wow we have just witnessed one of the biggest regrets in baseball history. I’m so glad he did not sign with the Dodgers or Giants.
Bunselpower
If it is true that Harper turned down an opt-out himself because he didn’t want one, he just gained a little respect right there.
Swinging Friars
Boom
Another day, another chance to be wrong
Ekopdaboss
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finaly
Wilmer the Thrillmer
Okay Giants, It’s time to sign Adam Jones on a 4mil 1 year contract with another 6mil available in incentives.
Savings…. 324 million.
lefty58
And the winner is…….Boras. Man I’m sick of saying that.
Phil253
Don’t even care anymore.
SoCalBrave
I think this is a big loss for Boras, or at minimum a compromise.
Jamespfunk
What an idiot. Boras and Harper didn’t read the market correctly and this is what they get. A terrible deal. Waste his career away in Philly. Hope he sucks
petfoodfella
Wait, what? Seems like Harper came out on the win of this one. If the reports are true he didn’t want opt outs.
brockswipessecond
Why would Boras give a damn about how happy he is in Philly, or if he’s wasting his career there? Boras is getting his inflated payday. And Harper will be raking in the money regardless of how he performs. They clearly won this negotiation
leftcoaster
Dude hits .249 now. What’s he going to hit during ages 33 through 39. Lol. So shortsighted by Philadelphia management. Idiots.
PhilliePhan
Obviously at some point it’s going to hurt to some degree, but it won’t be nearly as bad a most people are making it out to be. First, they kept the AAV relatively low with the 13 year deal. Second, I fully expect the players union to negotiate a much more relaxed luxury tax at the next CBA.
Solar Flare
It also came with 34 home runs and 100 runs batted in playing in a less hitter friendly environment.
AndyMeyer
Idiots you say?
Hmmm. Low AAV which gives them flexibility to resign Realmuto, extend Hoskins and go after future free agents
If that’s idiotic to you, I suggest you seek help
Rumncoke
idiots
MrStealYoBase
“Stupid” money
BigSexy
What the hell? I was thinking he’d get something like 350/10. 330/13 is a pretty bad underpay. This is basically the same deal Giancarlo got extended on but without opt outs. In the open market.
619bird
My guess is some of this is loaded for the first 10 years with a friendly back end. Have seen nothing to back that up but the AAV
oh just saw the update! It’s front loaded a bit.
natsgm
How in the heck did he agree to this. Phils just made out like none other. Only 25 million AAV? NO opt outs? Worst of the worst case scenario for the Nats. Lose Harper to rival and on a deal without an outrageous AAV. Crazy how no other team could be that.
Corazon5
No opt outs and full no trade protection over 13 years? Wow. I mean I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it works out. If the last few years aren’t too expensive then it could be a really good deal for the Phil’s.
Solar Flare
Also, it is frontloaded, unlike most mega deals, although there are others that are.
PinstripedPride
So MLBTR wasn’t so far off their prediction on Harper after all. Never would have thought the deal would be that long
Solar Flare
Yeah, but further than I was in that comment I posted on here recently, because I got the team right and I was only off by 3 years and $5 million.
baseballhobo
I wish all teams would spend stupid money.
steven scott
they all spend stupid money now. none of these players are worth what any of them are being paid!
digimike
Hope it all works out fine. Otherwise, Harper’s new nick name will be “the Albatross”.
blackleather
I’m glad the kid got his money, but it’s not a smart deal from Philly, given a full no trade for BH, and no opt outs. Sometimes the team should want an opt out as much as the player. They better start giving him playing time at 1st base right now…or go ahead and name him their DH right now, when MLB goes all in on that … because the longer he stays in the OF, the more risk of serious injury. 13 yrs is NOT SMART…that’s insane. But Harper deserves a tip of the cap for holding out. It only HELPS guys like Trout, Rendon, and whoever else, etc, next off-season.
Grizalt
The team should never want an opt-out. Opt-outs are terrible for teams. Player will only ever use the opt-out if the team doesn’t want him to.
hopper15
When your talking about 10 year deals I beg to differ on a team never wanting an Opt out.
Grizalt
No because the player will opt out if and only if the team doesn’t want him to. Cases like A.J. Burnett where the player leaves some money on the table in order to go to a different organization are few and far between.
Grizalt
If the Phillies wish to shed Harper’s contract after 6 or 7 years, they can do so by trading him. They don’t need the opt out to do that. If Harper is not producing at a level where another team would be interested in trading for him and his contract, then he was never going to opt out in the first place.
Willy Mays
How do you trade a guy making 22-26 million dollars who isn’t producing.Only way is by doing what Seattle did and give up a great closer with him.And Cano is actually producing some
Grizalt
Again, if he is not producing at a level where you would be able to trade him, he’s not going to opt out in the first place.
echozulu88
It’s over…it’s finally over
Rally Weimaraner
Structure will be 10/300+3/30, lets Boras say he got Manchado’s deal plus 30 mil for seasons over 35. Also lets the Phils save on the taxes
lefty58
I still find it interesting that no AL teams were in on this, looks like a DH in 2nd half of the contract and the NL isn’t a done deal for it coming in yet. Maybe they know something….
axisofhonor25
13 years!!!!???
STLBaseballFanSince2020
And people were calling him greedy lol. Just over $25 million AAV and has job security until he’s 38.
Ricky Adams
Philly is gonna kick themselves. Bet he never touches 4 WAR. Prolly only gets 3 twice. Dude maybe only 26 but hes already past his prime.
ATLbravos
good for harper and great for the phillies. 25 million for a superstar franchise player with a short fence. my next predictions dallas and kimbrel to the phillies and the braves will finish 4th in the division
goldenmisfit
This is the pure definition of a baseball franchise bending over. They knew he wanted nothing to do with that toilet bowl of a city so they made him a mob offer. No deferred money, no opt out causes and for no trade he basically had his way with them. But, five years from now when they realize what they have done we will be on here talking about the latest report that the Phillies are now shopping Bryce harper. Here is where it gets hysterical this is the definition of a on movable contract unless the Phillies are willing to pay most of it. If they don’t trade him when he’s 35 and has four more seasons and can’t play the outfield anymore what does Philadelphia do? They are screwed.
raef715
you clearly didnt think this out.
ATLbravos
they already talking about DH in the NL!! this will setup perfect for him!! 25million AAV is dirt cheap for harper and doesnt handcuff the phillies
STLBaseballFanSince2020
Harper was drafted as a catcher. I’m sure he can pick up 1B.
DadsInDaniaBeach
@ misfit…..double up on those meds kid…
PhilliePhan
DH is coming to the NL next year. Pay attention man.
raef715
can someone get me some luxury threshold estimate for the year 2030?
PhilliePhan
Sure. Less restrictive than it is now.
ReverieDays
13 years lol poor Phillies
Padres458
I dont consider this a record deal, 5 lm less then Machado. 30m for 3 more years… lol record deal….
petfoodfella
Record deal in total dollars, not AAV.
possible donkey
Don’t be surprised if this isn’t accurate.
fitsiqis65
and don’t be surprised if he winds up in NY or LA during the deal either……
davidcoonce74
A good deal for all involved. Every team can afford this kind of contract, but the Phillies could really use the value of a few wins that Harper should provide. Harper, even in a down year, was fifth in total bases in baseball last season (ahead of both the MVPs, btw). He’s young, of course – a few months younger than Machado – and has a skill set (power and walks) that tends to age fairly well. If the NL does, indeed, implement the DH in 2020 his value only increases., He also creates a baseline for a Trout contract, which I think will be something like 10/400.
smooveb330
Actually, players whose worth is based upon Harper’s skill set tend to not age well at all… his #1 comparable for age/stats is Andruw Jones.
davidcoonce74
Andruw Jones never came close to 130 walks in a season. He didn’t strike out a ton, but his skill set was quite different than Harper’s. Jones was an athletic guy whose highest OBP was 366 in a single season. (Harper’s highest was 460, and he’s only had one full season lower than 366).
Athletic/ speed guys who don’t walk a ton tend to age poorly. Exhibit number one might be Jones, although Carl Crawford is a more extreme example. Guys who walk a lot and hit lots of homers and hit for lots of power tend to age much better.
There is also the unfortunate suspicion that Jones was a PED user – I don’t believe that, but maybe it’s true. Harper is probably not doing anything like that. And Harper, in2018, a season in which he batted 249, posted a higher OBP than Jones ever did, and also scored and drove in over 100 runs. And he was only 26.
Matt Ragusa
LOL So much for him not liking Philly!
raef715
from Ken Rosenthal:
Though one source says Harper did not want opt-out, others around game say #Phillies likely refused him one if they were going to award him record guarantee. Relatively low AAV will help Phils with future luxury-tax thresholds. No deferrals, as others have reported.
kiddhoff
My thoughts BEFORE the signing. I’m holding out hope my Cards can somehow surprisingly sign him.
My thought immediately following the signing— I’m glad the Cardinals didn’t break the bank on this inconsistent player.
Congrats Phillies fans!!!
STLBaseballFanSince2020
If you looked into the stats, Harper is consistently a good player and sometimes elite.
Willy Mays
So in your mind a 249 ave 34 hrs and a-3.2 dWAR and a 1.3 WAR is a good player That was last year .How about 2014 when he played 100 games 13 hrs 32 rbis a 273 ba a -0.5 dWAR and a 1.1 WAR or 2016 243 ba 24 hrs -0.9 dWAR 1.5 WAR. How consistently exactly is he a good player
BaseballisLife
Alright. Now my fantasy league can draft. Congrats Bryce, you are a very rich man.
Swinging Friars
The Reverse Werth!
rubenc49
Harper may not have signed for Machado Money but remember he will be avoiding California’s insane tax rates. I’m sure he’ll be taking home more cash than Padre Manny.
petefrompp
Nope Machado still makes more –
After just state taxes:
Machado $26,100,000
Harper $24,250,000
And that assumes they pay entire salary at home state rate – which they don’t – Every players gets taxed by each state they play in -so returns are long and complicated. So Machado gets a little relief on his visits to Arizona and Colorado and Harper gets hit in DC and New York
fs54
I am surprised by lack of opt outs.
petfoodfella
Giants come in and blow the offer out of the water and he flips to SF.
BlueSkyLA
Everyone who was sure the Dodgers were seriously interested in Harper will now step forward and admit they were wrong.
Or, not. More like not.
goldenmisfit
Are you high? They offered $40 million a year. If that is not serious I don’t know what it is. Here is the problem you failed to recognize the Dodgers are exactly like the Yankees they value players through analytics at a certain number over a certain number of years and they do not budge from that number. That is why the Yankees did not get Machado did not even make an offer for Machado or why they did not even make it offer for Corbin and this is why the Dodgers did not get Harper. Not serious? Get drug tested
BlueSkyLA
Oh, nice. We don’t know what the Dodgers offered exactly but everybody and their grandmother knew that Harper was looking for at least ten years and the Dodgers were not going there. So that’s a working definition of not serious. But I guess I should thank you for proving my point. Nobody who was completely wrong about this is ever going to admit it. The only response they can muster is to insult the people who had it figured right.
Cat Mando
Hi BlueSky…….There is this (often debunked) guy on Twitter. I wonder if he honors his word and deletes his account. Read some of his guarantees…it’s where so much of the LA hype came from.
mobile.twitter.com/MLBINSIDER_
BlueSkyLA
Somebody else who we don’t need to follow on Twitter!
bobtillman
Rays were in it until the end……
tsolo85
“In taking the largest overall contract, Harper did make a clear sacrifice on average annual value. He’ll earn just over $25MM per season annually””
What a martyr
Rukidding
That’s kind.
keepinthafaithsd1
Padres are dumb not getting him he went for less than 30 a year..
Piro
Boras made the Phillies bid against themselves.
Charles Russell
Huh? So all the people from the Dodgers and Giants who met with Harper were just hanging out with him in Vegas to get his opinions on the best casino buffets?
Piro
Exactly, so you was there with us?
adc6r
And what better place to hang out when you have millions to throw around!
BlueSkyLA
Friedman tried to use is Jedi powers on Harper. “The Phillies are are not the team you want to sign with…” A master, he is not.
Turns out money speaks louder than mind control. Who knew?
laswagn
I like this signing for the Phills. I think it puts them atop the N.L. East slightly ahead of both the Braves and Nationals.
DadsInDaniaBeach
I wish, but the Nats have the better rotation..the Phils have an outstanding pen though
ATLbravos
at this rate phils are a standout and the nats/mets will battle for wild card. braves will all be hurt by the allstar break.
petfoodfella
lol Braves fans are such drama queens. Quit being so dramatic, you’re embarrassing the rest of us.
adc6r
Naw
the Nats pitching keeps them on top
Solar Flare
They are definitely improved, but if they had starters that they can consistently rely on other than Nola, that would be great.
Rukidding
Can we re-sign Cole to throw balls at him during BP? No matter how many added wins, regular or post season, this is absolutely repugnant. Hope the deal at least included an ample supply of Vasoline for Middleton while he was signing.
nicketz
13 years….wow i’m glad the yankees were never in on this mess. lolz.
nats3256
Vomit.
ATLbravos
harper signs with philly for less AAV, bc he was promised they will bet the farm on getting trout 2020. that would be a sick lineup
Yankeepatriot
If hicks continues to out produce Harper in war like he did last season he looks like a even bigger steal
STLBaseballFanSince2020
You’re comparing a CF and a RF. Big brain bud.
Willy Mays
Harper played 63 games as a centerfielder last year so not completely ridiculous and he was terrible at center and terrible at right
AndyMeyer
Hicks career WAR 10.6
Harper 27.4
Fire Jon Daniels
Who were they bidding against? Seems like the Phillies had all the leverage and caved on everything. Boras doesn’t get his due credit for magic like that.
nicketz
be funny as all get out if the Nats win the WS this year.
raef715
true, if they win a playoff series finally, they can say bryce was the problem.