Nov. 30: Rosenthal adds that Pomeranz’s $8MM signing bonus is deferred and will be paid between November 2020 and November 2023.
Nov. 27, 4:02pm: Pomeranz received an $8MM signing bonus and will be paid annual salaries of $4MM in 2020, $6MM in 2021 and $8MM in 2022-23, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (on Twitter).
1:54pm: Pomeranz will be guaranteed $34MM over a four-year term, pending a physical, Murray tweets.
1:20pm: Dennis Lin of The Athletic reports that Pomeranz has been promised a rather stunning four-year guarantee (Twitter link). Robert Murray adds that it’ll pay him $8-9MM annually.
10:20am: The Padres have struck a deal with free agent lefty Drew Pomeranz, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). The signing of the CAA client adds to what is quickly becoming a barn-burner of a day for the Friars, who have already struck a four-player swap with the Brewers.
Details remain unknown, but it seems fair to guess the southpaw has done quite well for himself — likely on a multi-year pact — in a surprise return to San Diego. The 31-year-old had an excellent, but brief run with the organization back in 2016 before being flipped to the Red Sox in a trade for then-top prospect Anderson Espinoza. Pomeranz has had some ups and downs as a starting pitcher since that time, but he finished the ’19 season riding high in a return to a relief setting.
Just a few months ago, the notion of Pomeranz being considered a top-tier free agent would’ve seemed unthinkable. He’d been booted from a pedestrian Giants rotation after posting a 5.97 ERA through 18 starts, but Pomeranz morphed into one of baseball’s most dominant bullpen weapons down the stretch. In 28 relief appearances, he not only posted a 1.88 ERA but also punched out a staggering 50 of the 106 batters he faced (47.2 percent). The Brewers were clearly intrigued by Pomeranz’s early work out of the ’pen, acquiring him and flamethrower Ray Black in a deadline swap that sent infield prospect Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.
The addition of Pomeranz will give the Padres a dynamic back-end bullpen duo, as he’ll team with right-hander Kirby Yates, who has emerged as one of baseball’s premier relievers since joining the Padres via waiver claim early in the 2017 season. Yates figures to continue handling ninth-inning duties, with Pomeranz serving as a top setup man, although today’s signing does give the San Diego organization even greater flexibility to shop Yates around as he enters his final year of club control. That said, the Padres have made a clear shift toward more of a win-now ideology after a grueling rebuild, and the Yates/Pomeranz pairing unequivocally makes them more formidable.
Nice my first actual tough prediction to be correct
Mine too, nailed it! Preller knew he had enough success the first time around in SD to give him another shot. I love this deal. He can give you innings out of the rotation or in the bullpen.
I wonder what they paid him. Seems like it could be a good deal as long as they pay him significantly less than $10 mill per season. Maybe $6M per for a 3 year total of $18 mill? What did MLBTR project his contract to be before the signing?
This is a huge overpay for a mediocre and oft-injured pitcher. 4 years was completely unnecessary.
It’s a risky deal there is no doubt about it, but the upside is four years or Andrew
Miller in his prime. If things go right he never starts a game for the Padres. FWIW Pomeranrz was one of the best RP in the baseball the last six weeks of the season. Velo was up 3 mph as RP vs starter. Gusty move, honestly I love it.
Jesus Christ. An extra $4 million would have gotten them Will Smith. Does anyone actually thing that Pomeranz is worth almost as much as Will Smith. Theybarenboth lefty relievers but Smith earned 34 saves last season and finished with a record of 6-0. I know Pomeranz has good bullpen upside but the Padres just paid him like he’s guaranteed to be one of the best setup men in all of baseball for at least the next 4 years. I think Chris Martin was ranked higher than him and still got a contract significantly less than half this size. I guess Preller is doing the only thing he knows how to so and blowing it all for years to come in hopes that Pads do just well enough to save him from being fired. Sorry AJ. This kind of reckless spending isn’t gonna get it done. I guess I’ll go ahead and say goodbye now since you are on your farewell tour in San Diego. Even if you manage to pull a .500 season out of overpay signings like this and manage to keep your job it won’t matter. Preller is insuring this team will hover around .500 for the next 4 consecutive years at best. That’s just a massive waste of time and money. He should be fired now so someone else can figure out how to spend cash like this in a much more efficient way if they ever want to even stand a chance to win it all. Especially considering this is a last place team. You can’t make stupid 4 year financial mistakes like this if you have any hope of turning a last place team into a championship winner.
Stop it, Flynn. Pomeranz hasn’t been anything close to Miller on his best day. The Padres will regret this deal by year 2. Guaranteed.
Remember when the Rockies thought they solved all their woes by overpaying a bunch of bullpen guys a few years ago? It just doesn’t work that way….
Totally agree.. about 8.5 mil for a relief pitcher when that could go to a SP or 2 which is what we really need in the first place. Oh I forgot, yea we need some offensive upgrades too.
Oh yea they also paid Wade Davis about 15 mil a year for a Closer… Rockies need SP, not RP. At least get two decent starters and then go from there..
Agreed Bernie. Good luck with this stiff and his months long trips to the dl for his little owwies.
is it possible to refrain from using JC name in your monologue, those who cherish his name take offense, thank you.
It’s possible Kirby will be traded and Myers will be part of the deal for a SP. Never know with AJ but that’s a possibility if they can’t sign Kirby. Can you imagine what Kirby will be asking, wow.
Sorry, nowhere. I didn’t mean any offense by it. His name is one of the few interjections that they allow on this site to help get a point across because many other ones are considered bad words. I was trying to walk the line between not saying an offensive word but still getting my emotion across without saying something corny like “Gosh Darnit” or something like that. You know what I mean? If you know of any good replacement words that have the same effect (in a non offensive way) I am definitely open to suggestions. Sorry again though. I didn’t want to offend anyone.
Seems like a bad signing, too many years!
Not me. I just dropped down to 5 for 9 with this and the Gibson signings
Nice move here by the Padres.
Not sure I would describe giving Drew Pomeranz a 4 year $34 mill deal a nice move.
Deej, I can’t believe Pom got that contract, poor Padre fans.
Does this mean the Red Sox get Espinoza back? Lol
Ha! Padres have the same return policy that Costco does.
lol..yep
lol, I actually did laugh out loud when I read this!
I believe so, but Boston might want to double-check the medicals. There is a rumor that Espinoza might have had two Tommy John surgeries. Not sure Peller will mention that.
Has Espinoza pitched at all since that trade?
Yes, and not well
barely
What happened to that guy?
Look at the padres revamping that pitching staff!
observe, Rangers
No!! I wanted him in minny but that’s not how it works
3/30 for Gibson LOLLLL. And by the way, Brewers are the ones who got fleeced. Grisham is so much better than Urias.
id argue it was a lose-lose. Grisham doesnt fit in the crowded. SD OF, and they Pads way overplayed their hand with Urias, who couldve been traded months or even a year ago for pitching. however, he looks like a 4A player, and the Crew traded away the more proven pitcher. everyone ends off bad.
How did they overplay their hand with Urias? They gave him a shot like anyone would have, and he didn’t produce. Now he’s gone. They got good return for him. Second base is still up in the air, for sure, but getting rid of Urias doesn’t change that. The season is still a ways off. Time for more wheeling and dealing.
Well, Urias was the centerpiece that everyone wanted in pitching trades last year–Cleveland for Kluber or Bauer, Mets for Syndergaard, Tigers for Boyd. The Padres just weren’t willing to give him up until now, I guess.
Urias is terrible. It just took the Padres a while of playing him to figure it out.
Other than for 130 at bats in AAA last year, Grisham has been a 220 or 230 hitter everywhere he’s played. He WAS a top 50 prospect three years ago, but had completely dropped off the top 100 by the start of last year. Davies and Lauer are both meh…5 inning guys. I’d say the Padres will likely come out on the short end of this deal, which is what I’d expect from Preller.
This is from Dan Szymborski, from his year end review of the Padres posted on 10/11/19.
“If Urías is eventually traded, I’m sincerely hopeful it’s part of a package for a real difference-maker, a Jacob deGrom or a Noah Syndergaard. If Urías fetched only, say, a year of Mike Minor, I will be sorely disappointed and extremely crabby on social media.”
Hahaha, the Brewers got fleeced? Hahaha Lauer is comparable to Davies,, but has more team control and is cheaper. Grisham isn’t or wasn’t much of a prospect. and was used almost exclusively against RHP. Urias is the most talented player traded in this deal. He was called up, didn’t receive regular AB’s and was sent back down. When he was called up again he hit .241/.341/.351..
Lauer is a long reliever and Urias is a question mark. I don’t think the Brewers fleeced by any means. Davies is good for the Padres mid to back end of the rotation. Fits Petco nicely. Will have a low HR rate.
Grisham was a first round draft pick and was named Baseball America’s Minor League Player of the Year. Granted, his prospect status has slid but he re-established himself with a big year leading to his MLB debut.
Grisham played pretty much every day once he was called up, starting most days. With RHH’s Lorenzo Cain and Ryan Braun in the OF mix plus Ben Gamel who hits LHP’s well, I can see why the Brewers may have opted for others over him, but his minor league numbers show essentially zero platoon split.
The Szymborski quote above suggests Urias would be the centerpiece of a package, which isn’t the case here. It’s roughly Urias-for-Grisham and Lauer-for-Davies. Nobody got fleeced in this deal. It’s a pretty fair swap.
Yes, the idea someone was fleeced is silly.
Kiley McDaniel’s take from his Fangraphs chat. today.
Kiley McDaniel: Urias seems to never have been fully appreciated by SD since they’re a more traditional shop and he’s not a traditional player. Making him a SS and thinking they can figure out a way to optimize his offensive approach around the lack of pop is a very MIL and generally progressive team opinion. This is essentially what OAK did with Semien as well.
Kiley McDaniel: Grishman is LF only and needs to mash, but took a step forward and has mashed, so he’s got a lower-variance set of outcomes without much margin for error
Not a “traditional” player? What does that mean?
“Grisham is so much better than Urias”. Based on their minuscule sample sizes? I watched almost every Brewers game last year and trust me, he’s not that good.
Bahhhhh I want my favourite team to have the nice things
Grisham > Urias. It’s not even close.
I think Urias is a bust. I have no evidence to back it up, I’m just making a prediction.
continued inability to hit major league pitching. Brinson but with less power.
Urias improved in the last 2 months of the season. He was just really bad when he first came up. I’m not saying he’s going to be a good player for sure because we certainly do not know but the Lew Brinson comp isn’t very fair.
Urias despite being rough at the plate still had the ability to draw walks at the ML level. And like I said, he got better as time went on. Brinson could never hit or draw a walk. We can’t write Urias off after 300 abs.
Maybe it will maybe it won’t. Trent Grisham has proved nothing himself and was generally considered less of a prospect than Urias. So we’ll see how this one plays out.
Bronson was a league leader in strikeouts. It would be like comparing apples/bulldozers instead of apples/oranges. Sure, they’re both baseball players but that’s about where it ends. Sterns has a limited budget and has done a fine job of turning lemons into vodka lemon-aid
Good luck with that very poor analysis!
Busy day in Prellerland
This move makes a lot of sense after trading Lauer, but you really couldn’t get anything more for Urias? This move doesn’t change how bad that trade looks initially.
I don’t see how trading Lauer makes this more relevant. Pomz is a reliever. I don’t really think the two have anything to do with each other.
Pomeranz started 18 games last year. They can easily put him in the rotation and he will give you about what Lauer would.
They certainly will not be doing that. Pomeranz is an elite reliever. Not a very good starter
I suppose I can’t say for certain because AJP does some crazy stuff sometimes but I find it highly highly unlikely.
I don’t think anyone can say that for certain this early in the offseason. They may think they can tweak something and fix him as a starter. It wasn’t all that long ago that he was a very good starter for the Padres. And as everyone knows, a good starter is more valuable than a good reliever.
I don’t know if you paid any attention to how good of a reliever he was last season but I doubt any other organization in baseball wants Pomeranz starting. That’d be like suggesting Andrew Miller went back to starting pitching a couple years ago.
He found his niche. Elite relievers gets more money than backend starters in today’s game anyway. So it’s certainly not a bad thing for him and his wallet.
I would hold off on the “elite reliever” before we see how he does this season. He was dominant for us down the stretch but predicting bullpen arms success is nearly impossible in todays game–especially ones that were converted from starter to reliever.
Personally, I think Pomeranz is going to be a very good reliever-time will tell though. need to see more.
I find it highly unlikely that Pomeranz isn’t at least a very good reliever moving forward but it is too early to say elite. You are correct. When someone is that dominant its typically not a fluke.
An elite reliever based on a hand full of games? LMFAO.
I’m not sure when 30 became a handful but he was elite in those 30. Not enough to make the determination of an elite reliever, though I’ve already said that. We’ll see moving forward but he relies on a big breaking ball and not a four seamer to get guys out. That should age well.
Joe Kelly got 3/25 for a good postseason and a 100mph fastball. This profile looks far more likely to sustain success. Paying for what guys did in the past isn’t really a winning strategy. I’d be happy if I were a SDP fan. It looks like a worthwhile rIsk
Pfft, as a Red Sox fan I would pay him the 34 million just to stay away from Boston….
I can tell you for certain.
The Padres don’t need any more below average Starters.
It they “do” need elite BP arms.
They will add another Starter to make putting Pomeranz in the rotation even more unlikely.
The rotation right now is:
Paddack/Lamet/Davies/Richards/Lucchesi.
No room for Pom and even less when another is added.
Michale Birks was he a reliever in Boston?
His velocity on his FB and his CB have ticked up 3-4 mph since the move.
He is not the same pitcher he was when you stole him from the Padres.
But hey…..if you want to pay his salary to stay in S.D. This time I’m sure Preller would take it.
Elite reliever?!? Bwahhahahaaaa, six weeks or so of excellent performance makes one elite? This signing will be a bust long before the contract runs out.
An elite reliever based on 2 months? In 2018 in Boston, he pitched 15 games in releif and finished with a 5.56 ERA, 1.68 WHIP and opposing batters had an .823 OPS against him. He pitched well enough to get a 1-year deal for $1.5M. So, Preller comes along and guarantees him $34M for 4 years based upon a 2-month “recovery”. Seems like another Myers or Hosmer deal in the making here.
So it’s ok to label him a terrible reliever off of 15 appearances on Boston but not an excellent one off of 28 in Milwaukee?
Got it.
Elite reliever 2 months wow
No, I’d say nobody knows which Pomeranz they’re getting – the one who pitched well in SD and last year in MIL or the one who was a BP pitcher in San Francisco and the latter part of his years in Boston. Under no circumstance do you give him a guaranteed 4-year $34M deal. The $1.5M the Giants paid him last year as a flyer seems more appropriate given his track record.
Michael, excellent comment!
Stove is warming
Dodgers missed out. It looks like it’s shaping out to be another year where they think the bullpen is fine as is. Pomeranz or Smith would’ve been a great fit there.
Pomeranz would not have been a “clever” enough signing for Friedman. All about options, then velocity and advanced metrics for him and his computer.
Pomeranz yes but forfeting a draft pick for Smith was not going to happen.
A draft pick? This is the Los Angeles Dodgers….. They can give up a pick to actually try to win the World Series. Acquiring a LH reliever at the deadline will cost prospects likely in excess to whatever value that pick had
Thats why I said Pomeranz was a missed opportunity. He costs less and no pick. They should have signed him.
Not at the money and years for Pomeranz. Dodgers did not miss out here. Smith? Sure. Maybe LA did not want to give up a draft pick for Smith. They should have.
Does this open the door for Cesar Hernandez or Jonathan Villar to bridge the gap til the next top prospect arrives? How would that be? Hudson Potts or is he not agile enpugh? One of the athletic shortstoos possible moved over?
I’m super curious about the contract details. I’m thinking there could be a split contract, with incentives for both starting and relieving. Considering his past success as a starter and recent resurgence as a reliever after his rotational struggles, it would make a lot of sense.
3 years? what the heck is going on with Preller.
He’s only employed for another year, so why does he care about years 2-4?
This has the aroma of another team fooled by a good 2 month sample. Padres fans will believe this helps close the 39 game gap between them and L.A. lol
Well they can’t go sit on their hands and hope that makes them better. This move should
I agree, just believe they gave him way too many years based off of an excellent 2-month sample at the end of 2019.
ok, whatever you say.
I love this.
hurray!! maybe he’ll win 2 games for the Padres, perhaps 3
Three years?!
Actually, I think it said 4. It’s not AJ’s money and it’s unlikely he’ll be here past 2020, so why should he care?
That’s too many years on a reliever imo
especially for one that was only good a very small portion of the season.
One thing certain. These moves by the Padres aren’t fan pleasers nor are they game changers. They need upper tier starters or it’s a re-run from the last decade. Get your butt out of gear, Preller.
4 years guaranteed?! WTH is going on with Preller? Lol
ew that’s not reliever money either, unless they think he’s an elite BP arm. (hint: no one is convinced of that yet)
4 years!?
He had a small sample size in the pen with the Brewers-even though he was lights out, 4 years guaranteed is ridiculously risky!
Who made the Trea Turner trade? You guessed it. AJ Preller.
Who made the Fernando Tatis Jr trade? You guessed it. AJ Preller.. Point? He will live and die with his trades and signings.
The point is if Preller doesn’t make the Turner trade there’s no argument about trading Urias. The infield is set. Oh, that is except for the Hosmer debacle. Another Preller move. I think he dies this coming off season. Pomeranz? Meh.
Padres stealing the headlines in the off-season again lol. Smh.
Have to imagine a Yates trade. Package him w Myers and Morejon. Nats? Myers at 1B now that Zim is gone. Also get a high upside LHP and best closer in the game.
You should probably not purpose a Myer trade to anyone because it’s a waste of time but especially not the Nats. You will anyway so carry on.
What did you just say?
Pomeranz had a few good outings as a reliever. I would have never given him more than a 1 year contract , He is a bum. Padres have also traded Urias and Lauer to Brewers for Grisham and Davies.
He is for sure not a bum dude. He is an unproven relief pitcher after being converted from a horrendous starter
Brewers found something with him and he excelled. But to give someone 4 years off 2 months of pitching is just pure stupidity.
Lets get a round of applause for that agent of his my god what a win for that agency
It wasn’t the Brewers that figured out Pomeranz was better suited as a reliever, it was the Giants .They’re the ones that moved him to the BP, where he responded with 1 hit, 1 BB, and 8 SOs over 5 1/3. The Brewers put him in the pen immediately on his acquisition, and his 1 start for them was in his 3rd appearance.
I doubt that the Brewers gave up Dubon for the 6.10 ERA he had as a Giant’s starter.
4 years???? Preller can’t do anything right. He took what should have been a value signing and took the value out of it. Still no clue how the guy is still employed.
Owners have a say too, not just Preller.
Pomeranz at 4/36 is fine, stop clutching your pearls. MLB isn’t a game about who can be the biggest cheapskate, no matter how many movies are made about the A’s.
You think Pomeranz is worth Will Smith money? LOL ok.
Will Smith took a paycut.
You’re not paying for the past. Pomeranz looked elite. For backend starter money I’d take the gamble. 4/34 isn’t all that much. He doesn’t rely on a big fastball. It’s that big breaking ball that’s his out pitch. I like the deal. There’s obviously some risks but you have to take those to get good players in free agency.
Not Smith money either. He got 39 over 3 years.
Oops 4/34
Why has everybody been scared of the FA market in recent years? Why have guys had to wait to sign? Because general managers figured out they didn’t have to hand out these sorts of contracts to win. Baseball is a little more sophisticated than just throwing money at it, especially with the CBT. So no, a half season of albeit great bullpen work should net $34 million over 4 years. I hope Preller sees something we don’t. That being said, his track record isn’t great.
should not *
What is this “half a season” I keep seeing? Other than 2018, Pomeranz has been always pretty good either starting or relieving, and therein lies additional value. 34 over 4 for Pom is actually what the market should be, but its been so cheapskatey the last couple years for some reason there’s a narrative that the profits going up means the player salaries should go down.
(Almost everyone got mauled in 2019, Pomeranz wasn’t as bad as his numbers in that year)
Finally an owner who shares the wealth!
Preller, what are you doing? Four years for a reliever because he had an incredible second half of the season. In my book, this is a mistake. Brett Cecil is available in trade talk.
Pomeranz has been good every year of his career except for 2018.
That’s just wrong. There’s a reason he was moved to the bullpen. 16, 18, and 19 are all not good except for the bullpen stint in Milwaukee this year.
He has not been good every year of his career. Obviously that’s garbage. But he was a very good SP in SD. Was very good coming out of the BP last season as well. It’s a risk but w his profile. I like it. Big Curve/4 seamer combo coming out of the pen. It looked real good. Brad hand and Andrew Miller were failed starters too. Pomeranz just had success starting a little bit longer than those guys.
2016 was really good for Pomeranz
So was Brett Cecil for the most part until he signed his deal.
34 million I guess it’s true the Padres management is very stupid.
Damn 4 years
Lets settle this once and for all the people arguing about the deal. and the ones arguing are either in denial Padres fans who think Pomeranz is Mo Rivera, or salty fans crying that their team didnt get Pomeranz
Padres did good by getting Pomeranz who will fit well in a big park on the West Coast.
AAV is fine-dont think anyone has an issue with the money
Its the 4 year guaranteed deal that is just unreal for someone who had 2 good months out of the bullpen. Any Padres fan that argues with that is just in denial, and they know it. Be a little bit objective Padres fans.
That’s 2 good months since 2017. Good for Pomeranz I guess. After giving $527m to Myers, Hosmer and Machado the last few offseasons, and now this significant overpay, are the Padres going to be running $150m to $200m payrolls in the next few years? If not they are rapidly running out of flexibility.
wow i butchered that first sentence. oops.
no one is surprised. Keep on truckin.
I don’t understand the trust in the man. He’s made some pretty bad deals and signings over the years and the team simply has not gotten better the last 5+ years he’s been GM.
There’s probably no GM under more pressure than AJ this winter. The landscape has changed; 360 Baseball America Awards for Top Farm System doesn’t mean squat when your team hasn’t even sniffed the playoffs in years.
Agents see the pressure; other GMs see the pressure. And both react.
Pomerantz got lucky; picked a heck of a year to reinvent himself. He was going to get 30M anyway; heck, Gibson got 30M, and he’s the definition of a 4th starter. The extra year just makes the total value more palatable, and more affordable on a yearly basis.
Good move? Nah, I’d never pay it for a reliever; Kirby Yates was a waiver claim. But when the gun is pointed at your head…….
Good fit for Milwaukee although the number of years is interesting. Thinking they maybe had to offer the 4th year to outbid some other MLB clubs.
*Good fit for Padres.
4/34 isn’t going to break the bank.. the Padres are familiar with him and he pitched well for them. Not to mention he pitched well for the Brewers down the stretch.
4 years???!?!?????? Wtf man. Sorry guys its early but #FirePreller
I am with you, this deal doesn’t make alot of sense. I was excited about the trade earlier with the Brewers but this signing makes no sense, that money could have been used way better
Overpay. Should’ve just signed Will Smith.
STEWPED!
He’s just so bad…. and even his decent year you wanted to pull your hair out because it was mind boggling how this guy was any good. Look, 4 years for him on a team that’s still rebuilding is absolutely stupid. Not to mention his recent history (minus the flip to the bullpen) has been awful. I’d freak if the Braves invested in him. Padres could have spent there money elsewhere or simply saved it to invest in players that are gonnA be legit soon
He struck out 50 of 110 batters he faced as a reliever.
Bringing in Pomeranz, generally speaking, isn’t a bad move at all, but it’s definitely a head scratcher because of the 4-year guarantee.
With Hosmer and Myers on questionable deals already, and Machado owning a hefty contract, the Padres were/are going to have to be smart with their money — not sure if this constitutes being smart.
Now, you never know, maybe Pomeranz ends up proving this as a worthy risk.
Are the Padres planning on giving him another shot as a starter? This move does have some similarities with Texas’ signing of Mike Minor — which has turned out well for the Rangers.
Has Preller gone mad!!??
This is insane. 4 years?!?!? The dude tops out at like 89 with his fastball. Has all sorts of health issues in his history. And had a half year of success in the pen. Who tf was going to offer him 4 years?
He topped out at 96 as a reliever.
Think again guys.
Anyone saying he isn’t any good and then quoting his numbers as a Starter aren’t paying attention.
Or saying he “tops out” at 89 mph?
He is now a 1-2 inning reliever.
He now “tops out” at 96 mph and even his curveball has gained velocity tremendously.
You can’t use his last 3 years as a Starter to judge this deal.
Gonna have to wait and see if he can maintain his “new” arsenal for a full season……or four.
You don’t get it to come to SD the last place team for many years you have to over pay and extend out the years. That’s why they got Hos, Manny and Pomz. I’m am sure a couple of teams offered Pomz three yr deals to come here it had to be four or nothing. If we get two good years out of this guy it will be worth the risk.
mlb.com/news/drew-pomeranz-agrees-with-padres
Lol… major overpay
Eight million a year for 4 seasons to a pitcher who’s pitched effectively out of the bullpen for what two months?
Pomeranz has pitched well in short spurts before and regressed.Granted his stuff ticked up as a reliever, but 32 million is a lot to bet on a 31 yo being able to do it for a whole season.
Well bad in terms of overspending and Pomeranz having one good year as an RP instead of multiple. We need SP more than that. and a few hitters, such as OF, (not platoons), 2nd base, and catcher. One Ace won’t do it. In fact, there’s a reason its called potential instead of just being good; one is more of a question mark whereas the latter is more consistent in terms of production. You’ve already overspent on a saturated 1B market with 20 mil a year, add Machado to that 30 mil and you’ve already spent about half of your annual salary as a team. And Daves/Grisham wasn’t a bad trade, but it definetly wasn’t an overhaul either.
How on earth?? Pomeranz is terrible. He must have some great agent
He won’t start. They are banking on him as a setup/closer type. If he succeeds and we extend Yates, he is still on the cheap by industry standards and, once again, fetch a prospect or two if we are out of contention by the trade deadline and a team looking to add a lefty reliever comes calling. We shall see…
He’s been a reliever for Oakland, Boston and Milwaukee and effective for all three teams. He was a good starter for 2016-2017 but that’s about it. Makes sense to put him in the bullpen.
He pitched back to back 3 times all year with Brewers. Guy shows month of good pitching and Padres guarantee him 34 mil.
I sense a need of urgency for AJ to do almost anything to get to .500, its his job that’s on the line and his ego. If this 2020 season is not at least 81 W’s you can put money on the fact he’s gone.
Stupid is as stupid does. This is stupid.
Preller is a FO nightmare. Spend, spend, spend and run like hell when the collector comes knocking.
I wonder if he’s getting kickbacks from Myers, Hosmer and Pomz… Humm…
I do know if the Padres do not make at least .500 AJ is out the door for sure. So what is AJ doing he’s overpaying for players to save his bacon for 2020 and 2021. I would imagine he will overpay for an OF and SP (second tier) just to get to .500 in 2020.
So what? Next GM will be saddled with bad contracts that’s so what
Good chance Kirby is traded with a few good prospects for a top SP, I would guess something else is in the works, thats my prediction by Jan. it will happen
Solid deal, especially considering what Kyle Gibson got
Don’t know why people are knocking this deal so much. Seems about right, maybe overpaid by a few mil.. but really not bad for the Pads. They stepped up and got a guy they obviously had their eyes set on early on. I’m sure other teams were in for more AAV for just a year less deal or so
Only way this pays off, in some minds, is if they can favorably compare him to someone like peak-Hader for a large part of the contract. It’s easy to see the possibility…much less the likelihood
If the Friars get two good years out of Pomz I’d say its worth the money, now does the new Mgr. have any idea on how to save this guys arm? For the money spent he better. Also why haven’t we heard of the Myers trade yet. Fowler wants his backside out of here, gone, caputs, see ya like later dude.
Details: have $2 million spread out over four years. Therefore his base salaries will be $4 million, $6 million, $8 million and $8 million.
Melancon, Chapman, Jansen, Davis, Kennedy, Kimbrel, Chatwood, Britton, Smith, Martinez, Familla, Miller, Robertson, Colome, Osuna, McGee, Ottavino, Iglasias, Shaw, Pressly, Anderson, Herrera, Soria, Kelly, Giles, Treinan, Cecil, Diaz, Hand, Martin, and Doolittle all made more last year.