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Red Sox Sign Jose Peraza

By Steve Adams | December 13, 2019 at 1:46pm CDT

DECEMBER 13: The Sox have announced the signing.

DECEMBER 12: The Red Sox are in agreement with free-agent infielder Jose Peraza on a contract for the 2020 season, Robert Murray reports (via Twitter). The ISE Baseball client will take home a one-year deal worth close to $3MM, MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweets. He can boost his salary via incentives.

Peraza, still just 25, was once considered to be among the game’s premier prospects but struggled considerably in two of his three full Major League seasons before being non-tendered by the Reds earlier this month. That includes a 2019 season in which he managed only a bleak .239/.285/.346 batting line through 376 trips to the plate while seeing time at second base, shortstop, third base, left field and center field.

While the 2019 and 2017 seasons weren’t kind to Peraza, he posted solid seasons with the bat in a half-season effort in 2016 (.324/.352/.411) and a full season in 2018 (.288/.326/.416). He’s an above-average runner although perhaps not to the extent some may expect from his prospect days; Peraza posted a 28.8 ft/sec average sprint speed each year from 2016-18, per Statcast, but saw that mark drop to 28.0 this past season. And while that might not sound like a notable drop, it’s enough to drop him from the 92nd percentile to the 75th percentile in the game. Peraza’s stolen-base efficiency, perhaps correspondingly, took a hit. He was caught six times in 13 attempts last year after going 70-for-94 in seasons prior.

In Peraza, the Red Sox now have a potential replacement for free agent Swiss army knife Brock Holt, who remains unsigned to this point in the offseason. Peraza can play virtually any position on the diamond outside of pitcher or catcher, and at roughly $3MM and 25 years of age, he’s both a younger and more affordable alternative — if he can round back into form, that is.

Regardless of the outcome, it’s a fairly sensible low-cost flier for Boston — one that could pay dividends across multiple years. Peraza has three years, 141 days of Major League service time, meaning if he does indeed bounce back, he’ll be controllable via arbitration all the way through the 2022 season

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  1. pasha2k

    5 years ago

    I’d rather have Porcello back.

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    • thetech

      5 years ago

      One has nothing to do with the other.

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      • AtlSoxFan

        5 years ago

        Well, it does sort of. This kind of dumpster diving pulled away resources.

        Which also begs the question, what is holt really looking to command? Because 3m plus incentives is way off what mlbtr and other saw for holt which was about 4 or 5m per season for 2 seasons.

        Of the two I’d rather have holt than this guy

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        5 years ago

        Who is this guy? I wanted Holt back. May I be the first to say, welcome to the Tampa Red Sox. I truly hope there’s a plan because Tampa has never one nor any of the upper management parties with Tampa roots (manager Joe Maddon aside).

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        • jtvincent

          5 years ago

          now this kid can actually hit a little bit. he just has to be given an opportunity to actually play

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        • Yankeepride88

          5 years ago

          He had 326 plate appearances last year. He had plenty of time to play

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        • hammer_time24

          5 years ago

          Don’t be so overdramatic. The Sox got themselves into this mess with several ill-advised contracts, and as a result, sacrifices have to be made. Tampa would never be in this situation because they would never hand out those other contracts in the first place

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          A better fix is to have dumped JD before the white sox had no need, or to include 5-7m payment to get value back for price or mookie.

          Not to decimate the entire supporting case on nickel and dime moves.

          Having a collection of high priced guys surrounded by scrubs doesn’t do it

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        • badco44

          5 years ago

          Earth to AtlSoxFan… you can’t dump him, when he signed the contract, and we gave him the option to opt out, not we the RedSox have the option… big difference

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        • kenny217

          5 years ago

          Because they rarely hand out any contracts at all. Perhaps if they weren’t cheap they would have won something by now.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          I was talking more about finding someone no one has heard for at less money. The Tampa way of doing things. While he has a mission, Holt is not going to get $10m per and his versatility if you don’t want JDM in the field is big. I’m actually not as down on JDM as others as there have been many worse outfielders and if he plays 80 games in the field, others get rest.

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        • Ketch

          5 years ago

          So trading JD Martinez in order to keep Rick Porcello was the right move?

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          Badco44 – it’s called a TRADE of jdm

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          @ketch –

          I think you clear payroll better by trading away JDM and saving 20m than you do by whatever you save by not bring back porcello (or another innings eater SP) plus whatever savings you get between this 3m+incentives deal instead of holt, or whatever you save by trading leon minus the cost of his replacement.

          Ultimately the salary needle hasnt made progress, but, your roster looks really rough. You are left with a collection of overpriced “starts” but no quality small pieces to make it work.

          I ask you, who do you see as a competitive 5th SP for the red sox, who will eat innings and spare the bullpen that we also lack depth in?

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        • Eatdust666

          5 years ago

          He couldn’t hit for crap this year, despite playing his home games in a hitter friendly environment.

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        • Eatdust666

          5 years ago

          Former highly regarded Braves shortstop/second base prospect that has generally been a decent hitter in the Majors other than this year and 2017.

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        • Speak da Truth

          5 years ago

          You can’t compare the resources that the RedSox have to Tampa’s. They did more with less so imagine what he can do when he has money to spend? So cut him a break and let him work. It’s not his fault he has to get under the luxury tax. So he has to do what he can in that situation. We can judge him in a season where there’s no restraints.
          How can anyone complain with how last season went and Sox spent over 240 mil to not make the post season.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          There has to be a market for JDM who I personally would not trade now. If the team is floundering in July, there could be a market then. You take him out of the lineup and weakens it big time. As much as I love Devers, last year was impacted by the ball and I want him to do it again. I’d trade Bennie who will never be worth more. If he rakes, the arb number next year will be about $9m I’m thinking and if he has another year like 19 and his return will be much less.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          Why does the team announce their intentions when that only loses trading leverage.

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        • Bernie's Dander

          5 years ago

          The Tampa Bay Sox still have Betts, Bogaerts, JDM & Devers in the lineup, at least. They need Benintendi to step up and Vazquez to keep making progress, as well. The offense should be fine.

          It’s the pitching that really needs a lot of work, however. I’m not sure what they are going to do there and it won’t be an easy fix.

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        • LordShade

          5 years ago

          It’s baseball, usually only the big markets win. Where have you been? Also, it’s “won” not “one”.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          The problem is without consistent pitching, you might as well blow it up and build around Bogue anspd Devers if Betts will not re-up. The problem all teams have now after these deals is no top star on the verge of free agency is going to sign like Boegarts did. Very hard to build a team long term this way.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          Spell correct sometimes is anything but and other times a brain and typing finger just don’t jive. By the way tell Kansas City Royals fans that only big market clubs win. While it’s normally true, the Royals proved money does not guarantee a championship. Ask Yankees’ fans.

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        • badco44

          5 years ago

          Same issue when he was looking at his option, he is a DH… and too expensive for most AL clubs for DH, so trading him prolly just a pipe dream!

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        • steve dolan

          5 years ago

          not Perez

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        • Steve7seven

          5 years ago

          Finally

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      • pasha2k

        5 years ago

        Tech of course I KNOW that!

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    • Marner#16

      5 years ago

      Pasha Aka panda,

      Your an idiot $3 compared to $10 plus good luck with that . Red Sox have to shed payroll yet again when Crawford or A Gon we’re moved but if you had any sense you’d know that . Please te me your not a Red Sox fan. Cause you ain’t too bright !!

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      • pasha2k

        5 years ago

        You really have some nerve when you can’t tell an innocent comment. You take this discussion way too serious. I’ve been a fan since we ran FB or $1 bleacher seats!

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    • TeddyBallgameYazJimEd

      5 years ago

      I’d rather have Holt back!

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    • weaselpuppy

      5 years ago

      Signing Jordy Mercer for twice that last year and leaving Peraza to be scooped up is just one more reason why no one trusts Al Avila in this rebuild in the D

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    • bosoxforlife

      5 years ago

      I only want Porcello pitching in Fenway in visiting gray.

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  2. CrewBrew

    5 years ago

    nice sign. He’ll do well in fenway.

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  3. twinsfan368

    5 years ago

    Only upside here

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    • paddyo furnichuh

      5 years ago

      Not exactly. While it’s a relatively low salary, low OBP hitters tend to regress more than ones who can take a walk. His 2018 was his only solid year.

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  4. nymetsking

    5 years ago

    Wow, I’m kinda surprised he got a MLB deal. I figured he’d get the MiLB deal with an invite treatment.

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    • southi

      5 years ago

      Actually I figured that Pereza would have tons of MLB offers this off season. He has defensive flexibility and speed, with the rosters going to 26 that type of player can be useful to almost any team.

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  5. Dbird777

    5 years ago

    As a Reds fan, I think it’s a good move for Boston. With better plate discipline that AL teams demand, he’s got 3-4 WAR potential.

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    • khopper10

      5 years ago

      Huh?

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      • Jbigz12

        5 years ago

        Peraza has .5 WAR over his entire career. That’d be quite the leap.

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        • jtvincent

          5 years ago

          war is an idiotic stat used to tell the range of the player not a grade

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        • vtadave

          5 years ago

          Also had 2.6 in 2018, so not a huge leap to say he could get to 3.

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        • Koamalu

          5 years ago

          2.3 WAR, but still its a valid point spread out over 3 1/2 seasons. 2 seasons with a positive WAR (2.6 and 0.7) but 2 seasons of negative WAR (-0.3 and -0.6 last season).

          Only reasoning I can think of for signing him instead of bringing Holt back is $$$. $3.4 million is less than the 2/8 deal this site projected for him in FA. . . .

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        • Jbigz12

          5 years ago

          That’s fWAR. BWAR has him at .5 over his career. I generally use fWAR also. But peraza’s best year was 2.3 fWAR. That came with 14 homeruns. Which he has never shown the ability to hit nor do I think that was anything more than an outlier. For him to go to 3-4 would be a massive leap; no matter what system you want to use.

          He’s a slap hitter who should steal way more bases than he did last year. Not bad for 3 million bucks. He should have value as a utility man.

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        • Jbigz12

          5 years ago

          @jta if you look at his numbers that he needed to post those 2.6 fWAR in 2018 it would be a huge jump. Those were his huge jump numbers. He managed to hit 14 homeruns that season after topping out at 5 in his professional career. He reverted back to the power outage last year and hit 6.

          So it would be a big ol leap to see him top 3. I’m not sure where he’d get that extra value from. I don’t think he’ll hit 14 homeruns again; let alone more than that… Unless he starts becoming a really patient hitter and starts drawing walks; it’s highly unlikely he goes any higher than that 2.3. To do that he’d have to draw walks and revert back to the never seen before power he displayed in 2018.. Not a likely scenario.

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        • Basebal101

          5 years ago

          you are correct. WAR is for dummies.

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        • Reggie Bars

          5 years ago

          No, dummies don’t like complex stats like WAR.

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        • steve dolan

          5 years ago

          Also age, although I love Holt.

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    • CrewBrew

      5 years ago

      Please elaborate on plate discipline being different in each league? lol

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      • khopper10

        5 years ago

        Lol this is the longer version of my comment

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  6. Old User Name

    5 years ago

    Closes the door on Holt no?

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    • pburns65

      5 years ago

      yes. not off to a good start Chaim

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      • Eatdust666

        5 years ago

        Yeah, but it was unlikely that they were going to bring him back anyway.

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  7. pburns65

    5 years ago

    guess that’s a wrap for brock holt. huge step down. sox going backward. thanks Chaim

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    • 0707-Bosox

      5 years ago

      Rather have Holt!!!

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      • Reggie Bars

        5 years ago

        Red Sox fans would rather have the white dude.

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        • steve dolan

          5 years ago

          Inappropriate comment. Knock it off.

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    • DTD_ATL

      5 years ago

      It’s not his fault Boston has so many horrible contracts and he has to come in and clean up the mess.

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    • Hibbie

      5 years ago

      Thanks Chaim? Henry is cutting payroll while other teams are adding.

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  8. ba2929

    5 years ago

    Great high upside, low risk signing. Wished the Royals had pounced on him but Dayton likes to wait for the scraps in February to do anything when the team stinks.

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    • DTD_ATL

      5 years ago

      No upside at all. He can’t hit and has no obp skills

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      • jtvincent

        5 years ago

        this guy had a great season and a half until they started to platoon him. I think it’s an opportunity to play it’ll be a great backup but not necessarily a great guy you can throw in

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  9. davemlaw

    5 years ago

    The Reds jerked this kid around last season and he lost confidence. He will only be 26 next year and put up good numbers in 2018. Really nice sign by the Red Sox.

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    • spudchukar

      5 years ago

      Agree. As a Cards’ fan I have witnessed his talents regularly. Can be a tough out, with occasional power and can play a variety of positions. SS can be a challenge for him and he shouldn’t be used there often, but he is more than adequate at second, third, or outfield. He will be an asset.

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    • jtvincent

      5 years ago

      they pretty much destroyed his career. the kids still have a lot of potential

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    • martyfan

      5 years ago

      Agree. I’m a Reds fan and it was frustrating that everything around him seemed so fluid all the time. I really do think he can turn a corner and be a regular MLB contributor.

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    • Koamalu

      5 years ago

      The Reds jerked him around so much that he is the answer to a trivia question. The kind that wins you bar bets. Who is the only player to play multiple positions in 20 or more games in 2019?

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      • AtlSoxFan

        5 years ago

        Yet thays the only real role for him in boston, unless chavis/dalbec/bogey/devers gets traded… which, not really a reason to trade any of them.

        So… consensus is, he stinks in the type of role he’s needed for in boston, and the role of the guy he appears to be replacing (holt?)

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      • redsfan48

        5 years ago

        Ketel Marte played over 80 games in both CF and 2B.

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      • RePete

        5 years ago

        The Reds completely mismanaged Peraza. He camw within a few hits in 2018 of breaking Larkin’s season record for a Reds SS. Then he started slow and they gave his job away.

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  10. DocBB

    5 years ago

    Solid pickup but thats $3M more you have to cut to get under the luxury tax. Not sure I get it…

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      5 years ago

      Apparently they feel he’s a better investment than multiple years on Holt. Hope I’m wrong.

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      • bosoxforlife

        5 years ago

        Holt, who all Red Sox fans want on the team, has become expensive and is aging. Peraza has not lost all his glitter, Bell couldn’t manage a team in Williamsport in August so Cora might be able to get him back on track.

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  11. DirtyWater04

    5 years ago

    Bittersweet. Really like rolling the dice on Peraza but I guess this means Holt is gone. But if we get 2018 or even 2016 Peraza this is a great move.

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  12. Roger71

    5 years ago

    What a big time signing

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  13. Phiilies2020

    5 years ago

    Really like this guy and the upside he brings. Great baserunning ability, above average glove that can line up just about anywhere. With the Red Sox having very little payroll flexibility, this is the kind of low budget move they needed to make that will actually pay dividends. Should jump right into the role left vacant by Holt. Excellent acquisition by Bloom and co.

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    • bobtillman

      5 years ago

      Yep. Typical Bloom (Rays’) type move. Better fielder than Holt (not hard to be), more speed, 77% success rate on SB (a VERY underrated stat; shows how much the player pays attention). and likely significantly cheaper.

      It takes more than just lopping off a Price or JBJ to control your payroll. Ya, ya gotta love the Brock-Star, but it appears they’ll be a bit more fiscal responsibility with Chaim than with DD.

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      • AtlSoxFan

        5 years ago

        Well, projections saw holt at 4m per year.

        This is 3m per year PLUS unknown incentives.

        Worse yet, lack of consistency (up and down years) and less versatility as far as OF ability… one wonders.

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      • Jbigz12

        5 years ago

        7/13 last year. Must not have been paying very good attention eh, Bob?

        Nor does he have a 77% success rate. 77/107 was roughly 71% last time I checked.

        The “hurdle rate” that teams use for whether a SB is worthwhile is right around 75% btw. He’s close. But to say that’s an underrated part of his game is probably a stretch.

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      • DirtyWater04

        5 years ago

        But we also need to lop JBJ off the payroll.

        Plan A should have been to non-tender JBJ, sign Dickerson to play left, and move Benny to center. Cost savings would have been marginal at best but the production would be much more in line with the cost.

        There is no possible way he can be traded and replaced at a lower cost than his 2020 salary. Trading him is going to entail retaining most or all of his salary and accepting very little in return, not to mention having to find a replacement outfielder. I don’t see how they can unload him and replace him without adding payroll/creating negative value.

        Now unless some miracle trade materializes where some other team would take on most or all of his remaining salary, the best option is to probably just ride out 2020 with him until he walks next winter, At least maybe then we’ll be better positioned to actually upgrade at the position but depending on how the Mookie situation plays out we could also be looking at having to replace two thirds of our outfield. Ugh.

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  14. RCPB

    5 years ago

    He got potential and most likely he’s going to be Holt replacement

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    • DirtyWater04

      5 years ago

      Hell if he hits the way he did in 18 he’s the starting second baseman (assuming Pedey is done, which I would love to be wrong about but sadly am likely not)

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  15. Doug S.

    5 years ago

    BOOM! Back in it baby! And Bloom said there would be no retaliation signing!

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    • bobtillman

      5 years ago

      Oh, I have it on the BEST authority Bloom already has a retaliation signing for Cole.…..

      BIG SEXY IN FENWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  16. AL34

    5 years ago

    Brock Holt is gone and there is your Bridge Year Utility Player. Going to be a long year

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    • AtlSoxFan

      5 years ago

      Yep.

      I imagine this is a year that will sorely test the patience of RSN.

      Also curious that they’re stockpiling bargain bin SS, second one today after the rule 5

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    • jtvincent

      5 years ago

      he had one Bad seasons. the only reason the Reds didn’t pay him is they can’t afford that kind of money for a backup. give aa chance to play every day and he could actually be a good player

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      • martyfan

        5 years ago

        It appears we may be looking at Freddy Galvis as our role player off the bench this season. Galvis is making $5.5m so I don’t think it is the amount he is paid but rather the amount he is paid for the diminished role he had in Cincinnati.

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      • AtlSoxFan

        5 years ago

        @jtvincent –

        Play him “everyday” where? You’ve got devers at 3b. You’ve got bogey at ss. They’re not moving for anyone.

        For your 2b you’ve got chavis who was in every way superior to this kid, and even when production dropped due to playing with the injury, chavis was still way better than this kid.

        I don’t see him as a 1b candidate which is our sort-of opening, although, I think we already had better options internally for 1b.

        As far as “utility infielder” goes, hernandez costs 1/4 the salary, without the incentives, and gives you the same or better production. (Plus we’ve got lin kicking around)

        For a team pinching pennies a 3m +incentives deal for this guy just is perplexing when there’s other areas of need.

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        • Jbigz12

          5 years ago

          Seems like you’re trying to slant your argument stating the only opening is 1B. Chavis started more games at 1B last year than 2B. Chavis doesn’t have much of a glove and Bloom may see him as a 1B long term. That would leave 2B to Peraza, Pedroia and every other internal candidate.

          The offseason isn’t finished and that certainly may not be Bloom’s plan; but there’s certainly a path to Peraza starting given the current roster construction.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          The bat of dalbec plays nice at 1b and I don’t think having peraza/chavis gives you superior anything (other than cost) over chavis/dalbec.

          It’d be different if this guy had a production track record, but, his only claim to fame so to speak was an aberration season where he flashed a whopping 14 hrs (sarcasm) but never showed a glimpse of that ability elsewhere

          Chavis is superior to peraza, and cheaper. I’m kind of perplexed at spending this money, here, on this guy, which his history over multiple seasons given the other vacancies there are.

          There is still lots of time, and lots of other things to come hopefully. But moves like this aren’t exactly inspiring

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        • Jbigz12

          5 years ago

          Chavis/Dalbec is a rough defensive right side and they’re pretty superfluous at the plate. Both extremely high K guys with pop.

          A guy like Cesar Hernandez is a better fit at 2B for the Sox. I don’t disagree with that. I would think Peraza is ultimately the utility man. But if we stopped the season right now I think a Chavis/Peraza Combo would be a little less ugly than Dalbec/Chavis.

          I’m not really confident any of Peraza, Dalbec, or even Chavis is a long term everyday guy for a (usual) contender like Boston. Chavis has to cut his K’s down or he’s going to go the way of Domingo Santana.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          Agreed on the K rate in an ideal world. But, I’m trying to take all the other moves that chaim has been making to save 3m here, 4m there, and it’s hard, even if you squint, to see how peraza is worth 3m+incentives on top.

          I’d think someone of dalbec/Casas makes a better long term 1b option if for no other reason than the fact chavis’ hitting and on base skills are better than peraza, and there isn’t enough difference in the glove to make up for the difference between a 500k mlb min (chavis) and 3m+incentives (peraza).

          All the reds guys make it sound like peraza wilts under the jumping around the diamond role of a utility man, and, the stats bear that out.

          Let’s just home there’s something more to be had here, and not just spending to hope to catch something in the bottle and flipping the guy.

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  17. julyn82001

    5 years ago

    Good signing. Peraza is a tremendous defender. He just has to improve his bat. The rest will follow.

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    • earmbrister

      5 years ago

      Tremendous defender? Yeah, MAYBE a bit above average. I do think the bat will rebound somewhat.

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  18. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    good as Holt is, Peraza is not a bad replacement at that price.

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  19. baseballpun

    5 years ago

    Mookie’s replacement?

    (This is a joke. Do not submit responses premised on a misunderstanding that I sincerely believe the Red Sox will replace Mookie Betts with Jose Peraza.)

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    • AtlSoxFan

      5 years ago

      Might as well be.

      On one hand they’re keeping this “last year” of mookie. On the other they’re being recklessly cheap to where it doesn’t even matter if you have mookie or not.

      You’ve replace a super utility guy (holt) with a inconsistent utility infielder.

      Traded away your backup catcher with no heir apparent or acquisition.

      Didn’t sign your #4 pitcher on what his history pattern says should be a league average or better year, and, have nobody ready to step in. Meanwhile, the remaining budget SP who aren’t hail Mary reclamations are disappearing left and right.

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      • Phiilies2020

        5 years ago

        They essentially have the same roster as they had when they won the WS a couple of years ago. They might as well hope that last year was a blip and go for it again this year. If Mookie walks, at least you get the draft pick. If you’re out of contention come July, you very well may get just as good of a return as they would have if they traded him right now. Its ashame they paid Price and Eovaldi all that money or else they could have possibly locked Betts up long term. He says hes going to test free agency but im sure they could have offered him 260-300mil to keep him from doing so. They really have no other choice but go with the guys they have and hope for things to break right like they did in 2018. Their only other option really would have been to try to attach Betts to Price or Eovaldi in order to clear up almost 60mil. That may still happen but it’s looking less likely.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          5 years ago

          Actually, as it sits they’ve chopped the supporting cast:

          The utility guy who performed is apparently gone.

          The power 1b is gone, and nobody slated for the role.

          The workhorse of the SP staff is gone, with nobody even in AAA to fill the role. This hurts more because the bullpen remains a weak cog, so an innings eater both spares the weak pen which has an even heavier load with SP health issues out there.

          Your 4th OF/backup 1B (who granted was hurt 2019 anyways) is gone.

          Your backup C is gone, which actually was the primary/personal C for Sale. With his catcher IIRC the era was over 2 runs lower than with christian, and, we still don’t have a backup C replacement.

          The bloated contracts are still here, but the pieces that acted as glue are gone and haven’t been getting upgraded/replaced.

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        • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

          5 years ago

          You think the season starts tomorrow?

          Plenty of time to fill those roles with guys making less money. Sure there’s going to be a hit in production but those losses plus a big name or two or three and there you have the 2020 Boston Red Sox.

          All part of the plan to compete again in 2021 after the tax number is reset. The Sox are never down for long.

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  20. Cuso

    5 years ago

    Five times better than Pedroia, so there’s that.

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  21. Amanda2019

    5 years ago

    why do you all act if brock holt is ty cobb? hes a GOOD player, thats his ceiling, he is by no means amazing, i cant really get the obsession with him, while yes the community loves him, doesnt that fact that the red sox havent even made him an offer tell you they arent gonna keep him? he already wasn’t making much, yet he wasn’t even offered a 1 year deal, whats that tell you? he also played 2 games out of 7 usually, hes a BENCH utility player, thats it. With that being said im dumbstruck that david price is still on this team after 4 days of the winter meetings, Anaheim and st Louis are 2 teams that need a pitcher yet boston is absolutely stuck with him, im sorry but i watch the red sox everynight like its my religion, holt is no superstar, by any means of any measure.

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    • nymetsking

      5 years ago

      He’s Ty Cobb compared to Blake Swihart

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    • tycobb016

      5 years ago

      Did somebody call me?

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      • phenomenalajs

        5 years ago

        No, the one with the handlebar mustache. LOL

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    • AtlSoxFan

      5 years ago

      Holt played in 87 games last year, hit .297, and had an ops of .771. .369 for an OBP. Like most all of his career, he graded out about league average but could play anywhere but P/C.

      This scrub we’ve got now was so highly regarded he was non-tendered rather than traded, hit .239 with a .631 ops. Horrible .285 OBP. And graded out his typical 38% below league average while being worth negative .9 war.

      But people liked him as a prospect years ago so console yourself with that

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      • rocky7

        5 years ago

        And consider the reason the Sox are in the situation that they are right now is committing themselves to the past rather than the future….examples being the Pearce, Eovaldi contracts and the notion that beloved Pedie is going to make it back after 2 years of inactivity by mid-season and be the player he was in his prime…All this while the over the top prime contracts of Sale and Price are strangling the team vs overall performance to support why giving them out, and your best player may have to walk because you can’t afford his arb numbers let alone what it would take to sign him longterm….
        .This new kid has speed, is 5-6 years younger, and will cost much less than re=signing Holt. Last time we checked, Holt didn’t get a Gold Glove nor win a batting title either so what’s to lose? While a good guy supposedly, there are lots of good guys around the league.
        You all complained all day and night long about Dombrowski and the damage he did, but now have shifted displeasure to the new GM and don’t like how he’s handling things either. Whats the story Red Sox Nation?

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        • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

          5 years ago

          You want the story?

          Four championships in 15 years.

          Any questions?

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        • Basebal101

          5 years ago

          @ Gary. Yeah lots. Like why didn’t acknowledge what he said, instead of making a stupid, pointless rebuttal? Oh, because he was dead on with his statement.

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  22. Oxford Karma

    5 years ago

    The only season he had a good year, he played one position regularly. If the Red Sox just plug him in at second, they could still keep holt. He’s better in that role.

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  23. DockEllisDee

    5 years ago

    Good for him!! Give him playing time and watch him produce. He should’ve been starting 2B last year right out of the gate but they kept plugging in Dietrich

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    • Basebal101

      5 years ago

      Seriously?lol

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  24. miltpappas

    5 years ago

    Tells me two things. They have no confidence that Pedroia will come back and they aren’t pursuing Holt.

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    • Sabermetric Acolyte

      5 years ago

      I think it has nothing to do with Pedroia… or rather I don’t think the game plan has changed at all. It looks like your standard low risk high reward gamble. If it has any implications its they see him as an alternative to Holt, not Pedroia.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        5 years ago

        Pedie proved last year you can depend on him trying to get on the field but the team has to assume otherwise like the Mets situation years ago with David Wright.

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    • DirtyWater04

      5 years ago

      I think the best case expectation on Pedroia is even if he is able to make it back that it wouldn’t be until around midseason. So even if their outlook is optimistic on him they would be dumb not to invest in other real options for the position.

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    • AL34

      5 years ago

      Pedroia is done My Friend! He is just hanging out for that contract. He has played 7 games in two years. Pay him an injury settlement, give him a job in the front office, and a day at Fenway! All he is now is an example of a bad long term contract like an albatross around a teams neck

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  25. Briffle2

    5 years ago

    He literally needs to hit 320 to be a league average hitter.

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  26. brandons-3

    5 years ago

    Wasn’t there a rumored Jose Pereza for Luis Severino swap like five years ago?

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  27. AL34

    5 years ago

    Welcome to Small Market Tampa Bay Red Sox Baseball. Brock Holt is as good as gone! There are going to be a lot of Bridge Years ahead. Two garbage signings of struggling baseball players!

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  28. Simple Simon

    5 years ago

    As 103-win NYY gets demonstrably better, Red Sox coming off 84-win season 19 GB, are heading south yet are tens of millions over luxury tax threshold.
    Trying to unload Price near $100 mill contract will require sending a TOP prospect along with him and then to pay Mookie nearly $30 million to finish as an also ran in 2020,
    Fortunately, the bird teams provide a floor to keep team out of the cellar but .500 is looking like a goal

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  29. Basebal101

    5 years ago

    What is the deal w fans. The ignorance is mind blowing. You guys scream and demand that your team spend big on all free agents., and cry like babies if they don’t and say how stupid they are.. Then you belittle and scrutinize the team and GM that is responsible for those signings years later when these problems arise. The absolute stupidity of the lack of understanding of that process is is is…….well yeah. Really wish there was a site you had to have a minimum baseball IQ to post!

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    • Reggie Bars

      5 years ago

      Exactly. This is a team loaded with stars that had a down year in 2019. And hell, they could give Betts a huge mind-blowing contract right now and have him re-sign, if they wanted to, They can afford it. JD should bounce back. Bogaerts and Devers are great young players, Vazquez had a breakout year. Chris Sale could return to being his old self. A lot of teams would like to have these problems that this roster supposedly has. But the fans are all worried about losing scrappy little Brock Holt. Big deal, they’ll survive without him just fine.

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  30. madmc44

    5 years ago

    Re. Peraza–I’m not very familiar with the NL–long time Sox fan. I’m sure those from the Cincy area are and have commented. He sounds like a ‘player.’ We need some good athletes that won’t be shy of the bright lights and crowds.

    Price and Betts to the same team that hasn’t gone over the Lux Tax and could be in contention. I’d like it to be in the NL. San Diego: we could take back Myers or Hosmer and Anderson Espinoza, former Sox prospect, currently on the IL, and Margot in addition to some cash.

    Possibly Arizona and the White Sox. I’d like to see WS prospects Yermin Mercedes (c) and Michael Kopech (P) (another former Sox prospect). Bloom has had talks with at least 5 teams about Price.

    Time will tell: they do have to get spending under control.

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    • Reggie Bars

      5 years ago

      Why would they want to take on the horrible Hosmer contract? I’d rather overpay Price. At least he has a chance to be a high-impact player, unlike Hosmer, the most overrated player in MLB.

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  31. angt222

    5 years ago

    This could be a shrewd signing especially if Pedroia is out for an extended period of time again.

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