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What If The Mariners Had Drafted Anthony Rendon?

By Tim Dierkes | April 11, 2020 at 3:00pm CDT

It could have easily been Anthony Rendon.  The media certainly believed the Mariners would draft Rice’s star third baseman with the second overall draft pick in 2011, despite injury concerns.   Former Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik recently told Corey Brock of The Athletic, “We liked Rendon…a lot.  Going into the draft, he was probably the player a lot of people thought we were going to take…and we did, too.” 

Most observers expected the Pirates to use the first overall pick on UCLA righty Gerrit Cole, and indeed they did.  That scenario left two strong possibilities for the Mariners: Rendon, and University of Virginia lefty Danny Hultzen.  Rendon was considered by some to be the top talent in the 2011 draft even with recent ankle and shoulder injuries.  But those injuries loomed large for the Mariners, with Zduriencik telling Brock, “Anthony had some physical issues. He’d been hurt the year before and was limited somewhat. There were a few things that were concerning.”

You can debate whether it’s fair to criticize the Mariners’ choice of Hultzen in hindsight.  Zduriencik told Brock, “Danny was the guy who everyone loved. It made a lot of sense.”  But while Hultzen was by no means a reach or a bad pick at the time, he was considered the “safe” choice.  After Day 1 of the draft, Keith Law (then of ESPN) said the Mariners “shock[ed] everyone,” elaborating, “I’m not criticizing Hultzen in the least here, but I think drafting at No. 2 overall is a rare chance to go for ceiling, and the Mariners didn’t do that. They took a very safe, very good college pitcher who will move quickly but doesn’t have No. 1 starter upside.” Unfortunately, even the safest pitchers carry extreme risk, and Hultzen’s career was all but wiped out by shoulder issues.

No one could have foreseen that the draft’s best player would turn out to be Mookie Betts, as the Red Sox landed him 172nd overall.  But the draft gurus were correct on Rendon, who ultimately has been the second-most productive member of his draft class by measure of Baseball-Reference WAR.  And that was a draft that included Cole, Francisco Lindor (also of interest to the Mariners), George Springer, Trevor Story, Javier Baez, and many other excellent players.

Anthony Rendon

To the surprise of the baseball world, the Pirates, Mariners, Diamondbacks, Orioles, and Royals all decided to pass on Rendon.  Maybe it was the ankle and shoulder injuries, maybe it was adviser Scott Boras, but whatever the reason, Nationals GM Mike Rizzo was “pleasantly surprised” when Rendon fell all the way to the sixth spot.  The Nationals went with who they considered to be the best player available, even with Ryan Zimmerman entrenched at third base.  That choice paid off in a huge way for the Nationals.  But with apologies to Mariners fans, let’s consider an alternate universe where Zduriencik called Rendon’s name instead of Hultzen’s on June 6th, 2011.

Rendon reached the Majors in 2013 and had his first highly productive season in 2014.  By that point, Kyle Seager was already established as the Mariners’ third baseman.  Seager’s 18.4 fWAR run from 2013-16 was actually much better than what Rendon did, albeit with a slightly lower ceiling.  As with the Nationals, Rendon would have likely been shifted to second base as a rookie to accommodate the incumbent third baseman.

The Mariners had used the second overall pick in the 2009 draft on Dustin Ackley, whom they decided to shift to second base the following year.  Ackley never hit like the Mariners (and everyone else) expected him to, nor did he take to playing second base, so the club gradually shifted him to the outfield starting in 2013.  Second base would have been the primary infield opening for a top prospect, since Brad Miller came up around the same time to take over at shortstop.  In real life, the Mariners had a quality middle infield prospect coming in Nick Franklin.  Franklin was capable of playing shortstop but seen as more of a second baseman.  Even with Ackley in the outfield and Miller at shortstop, Seager’s success at the hot corner would likely have left Rendon and Franklin to battle for the Mariners’ second base job as rookies in 2013.

Franklin was a top 50 prospect prior to 2013 and he had an OK showing as a rookie that year, but it wasn’t enough to prevent the Mariners from signing Robinson Cano to a franchise-altering ten-year, $240MM free agent contract that offseason.  Rendon’s real-life rookie showing was similarly mediocre, though he was more highly-regarded than Franklin.

Franklin became a popular trade chip once Cano signed in Seattle.  The Mariners ultimately parted him at the 2014 trade deadline in the deal that netted them center fielder Austin Jackson and landed David Price in Detroit.  With Cano in the fold, would the Mariners have traded Franklin, Rendon, or both?  And when?  The Mariners may have been more willing to part with at least one of them during the offseason rather than at the trade deadline, and were known to have interest in Price.

Or, would the presence of two promising second basemen have led the Mariners to spend their money elsewhere?  Though Cano was the biggest fish that winter, that was also the point where the Yankees signed Masahiro Tanaka and Jacoby Ellsbury and the Rangers signed Shin-Soo Choo.  The Mariners never seemed to be in play for Ellsbury despite his Northwest roots, but Tanaka or Choo would have been viable financially if not for the Cano signing.  In the end, Cano performed well in his five seasons with the Mariners, and though they had to include Edwin Diaz and a lot of cash, Cano was part of the reason the Mets were willing to part with Jarred Kelenic in December 2018 (more on that here).  In a roundabout way, if the Mariners had drafted Rendon, they might not have Kelenic now … though they might have other appealing players instead.

If the Mariners’ hypothetical second base surplus would have prevented them from trying to upgrade the position in the 2013-14 offseason, what would have become of Cano?  A return to the Bronx was the prevailing guess in November of 2013, yet the Yankees reportedly topped out at a $175MM offer for Cano despite going on a spending spree on other players.  Would Cano have swallowed that alleged lack of respect and remained a Yankee?  Or would some other team have stepped up to fill the void?

The Dodgers sat out the Cano bidding that winter.  The Mets took a meeting with Cano’s agent Brodie Van Wagenen, their future GM, but the team might have just wanted the chance to meet Jay-Z.  Beyond the Yankees and Mariners, there was never another serious suitor for Cano that winter, at least as it was known to the public.  If somehow the hypothetical presence of Rendon would have reduced the Mariners’ interest in Cano, the logical conclusion is that he would have returned to the Yankees — at much less than $240MM.

But the Mariners went into that winter intending to make a big splash, and it’s quite possible they would have traded Franklin for pitching, kept Rendon, and signed Cano.  In reality the Cano signing mostly tapped out the Mariners’ budget, and they traded for the affordable Logan Morrison to split time at first base with Justin Smoak in 2014.  Though it would been a waste of his defensive talents, might the Mariners have found a temporary home for Rendon at first base?  The 2014 Mariners fell one win shy of a Wild Card berth, a season in which Rendon was worth 6.4 fWAR while Morrison and Smoak combined for 0.6.  It’s not too hard to picture a 2014 Mariners club with Rendon, Cano, and a pitcher acquired for Franklin overtaking the Royals in the Wild Card game and maybe even making a deep playoff run.

Even a 2014 playoff run might not have been enough to save Zduriencik’s job, given all the things that went wrong in 2015.  So even in our alternate Mariners universe, Jerry Dipoto still takes over as GM in 2015 and remakes the team in his image.  Rendon might have been enough to put the Mariners in the playoffs in 2016 and/or ’18, changing the trajectory of the franchise.  In reality, the Mariners continue to suffer through the longest postseason drought in the sport.

The implications of the Mariners choosing Hultzen over Rendon nine years ago can make your head spin, and we didn’t dive into the hypothetical consequences of the Yankees keeping Cano, the Nationals drafting someone else sixth overall, or the Diamondbacks, Orioles, or Royals drafting Hultzen instead of Trevor Bauer, Dylan Bundy, and Bubba Starling.  Feel free to do so in the comments or let us know how you think things might have played out had the Mariners drafted Rendon.

Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. Vizionaire

    5 years ago

    that’s all good. actually, great!

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    • LouisianaAstros

      5 years ago

      One of the things missing was playing 81 games at Safeco.

      Rendon is a great hitter and can hit elite pitching
      But I saw Adrian Beltre slip up in Seattle.
      Even Richie Sexson had his career damaged by Safeco.

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      • dynamite drop in monty

        5 years ago

        Oh no even the great Richie sexson!

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        • LouisianaAstros

          5 years ago

          I could have used Trumbo

          Both had light tower power but even then you saw an impact by Safeco

          Beltre is the greatest 3Basemen in our generation but even he had issues there.

          So possibly Rendon may have been a solid player but not elite.
          Unless of course he became a different player

          At the end of the day Seattle needs to find a player who fits their Stadium.
          IMO that has been Ichiro.

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        • costergaard2

          5 years ago

          Refsnyder would own SafeCo…

          Reply
      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        That’s why I never understood why other GMs didn’t see the same thing that Theo saw. A great defensive player, whose stats were being suppressed by Safeco, and a fluke injury.

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        • 4WSsince04

          5 years ago

          Wish Theo had kept Adrian Beltre rather than trading for Adrian Gonzalez and kept Anthony Rizzo.

          Reply
      • 4WSsince04

        5 years ago

        Seattle needs a domed stadium. The damp, almost nightly, coastal foggy air knocks the ball down. It is the same in San Diego. It is great for pitching. That is why many of San Diego’s pitcher do not do as well once they go other places.

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        • ayrbhoy

          5 years ago

          I emigrated to Seattle- while I agree with your description of the unfavorable weather conditions for hitters I feel like that only applies to the first 1/3 of the MLB season. Summer evenings in Seattle are absolutely beautiful- perfect baseball weather IMO

          San Francisco and Oakland has that damp foggy air. You’d think since SF and Oak play in California the Summer air makes the ball fly but Summer nights on the SF Bay can be cold. “Fun fact for ya” -the best 2 months in SF (and where I live in Monterey) are Sept and Oct. Of course you go 50 miles inland from SF and Monterey it’s bloody roasting from May-early Nov

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        • LouisianaAstros

          5 years ago

          Salinas Valley is absolutely the worst. Damp air plus the wind.

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        • Not a clever name

          5 years ago

          I live 60 miles inland from San Francisco in Vacaville and you are spot on!

          Reply
        • ayrbhoy

          5 years ago

          Louisiana- you ain’t lying! Every day in the Summer around 5pm that cold wind and fog raced down from Moss Landing right through that valley! It goes from 75 to 50 in about 15 mins!

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        • Frisco500

          5 years ago

          Ayrbhoy- Yeah I’m born and raised in San Francisco. Still live here. And you’re pretty spot on with your assessment. We call Sept & Oct our Indian Summer.
          Although this year we barely had a winter at all.

          Reply
      • C. A. Hevia

        5 years ago

        Beltre’s resurgence post Safeco was as much because of his therapeutic use exemption as it was anything else. He was able to take PEDs the entire second half of his career because of his damaged nut. Dude was a great player but people gloss over that reality.

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  2. Matt B. 58.

    5 years ago

    There were lots of rumors about Lindor to the Mariners leading up to the draft too. That top of the draft was so loaded. Franchise changing move to go Hultzen there.

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    • Tim Dierkes

      5 years ago

      They did work him out in Seattle. That would have been a bold and obviously successful pick.

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    • bjupton100

      5 years ago

      Hultzen looked great his first year, year and a half. Looked like he’d fly right through the minors and be like Wacha was. I honestly was telling some people he reminded me of Hammels/Lee.

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  3. rclap

    5 years ago

    Great article until i got to that part with Kelenic. Still makes me cringe everytime.

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  4. ayrbhoy

    5 years ago

    Nooooooo! Why do you torture us Mariners faithful? Haven’t we been through enough? Haha. If we’re playing the what if game- what if we didn’t trade away Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek? Or Big Papi? What if we kept SP Carlos Guillen or SS Omar Vizquel? What if Adam Jones, Shin Soo Choo and Chris Tillman stayed in Seattle? What if we kept A-Rod and Griffey? The Mariners exceed in only thing- losing!

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    • kjt404

      5 years ago

      Adding to that, what if the Ma didn’t trade Asdrubal Cabrera for an old, virtually retired 36 year old named Eduardo Perez (who hit under .200)?

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      • ayrbhoy

        5 years ago

        Kjt404- you’re right! Forgot about Asdrubal. Or how about the Alfonso Soriano for Horacio Ramirez trade? Horacio who? We’ve made sooooo many bad trades it’s almost comical

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        • kjt404

          5 years ago

          I wish it were Alfonso Soriano, believe it was Rafael Soriano but yes…another crappy doomed trade.

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        • ayrbhoy

          5 years ago

          Kjt- Rafael Soriano! That’s right- RP who went on to be an all-star, pitched for a handful of teams inc ATL and NYY. We used him as a set-up guy but he was converted into a closer. That AS yr with TB was incredible- sub 2.00 ERA and 45 saves! Its amazing how TB is able to develop SEA pitchers into the best version of themselves! Look at Pagan and Yarborough.

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    • LouisianaAstros

      5 years ago

      We gave you Carlos Guillen for 2 months of Randy Johnson.

      Every team has these what ifs.
      Astros had Johan Santana and Bobby Abreu in the 90’s.
      Just image Abreu hitting between Biggio and Bagwell.

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      • neo

        5 years ago

        Sure, every team has these what ifs, but most teams still have some foot left to see where they shot the holes. The Mariners have shot themselves in the foot so often there aren’t any holes to see because the foot is all gone.

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        • ayrbhoy

          5 years ago

          Neo, LouisianaAstro- fer sure, every team has a ‘what if’ story. As you say Leo the Mariners must have the most in the last 3 decades. To your analogy- they have shot themselves in the foot so much they’re like Tom Cruise in the movie “Born on the 4th of July”

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      • Not a clever name

        5 years ago

        Bang! What a trashy trade!

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  5. leefieux

    5 years ago

    Heck, I was disappointed when the Bucs didn’t take him!

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    • TJECK109

      5 years ago

      He still would have been gone in the same time Cole was

      Reply
  6. andrewgauldin

    5 years ago

    What if 22-23 other teams took Trout?

    Reply
  7. agentp

    5 years ago

    Such a domino effect type of scenario. It reminds me of what a good series 11/22/63 was. Twas the ultimate What If scenario, wrapped up and delivered via Hulu.

    Bored?! Have Hulu? Like ‘What If’s’, check out 11/22/63. James Franco with a great performance!

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  8. madmanTX

    5 years ago

    What if the Mariners really were fishermen? Would anybody notice?

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    • ayrbhoy

      5 years ago

      I saw a crescent and you saw the whole of the moon….the whole of the moon!

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      • C. A. Hevia

        5 years ago

        Nice Waterboys pull!

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  9. mgomrjsurf

    5 years ago

    If they did Drafted Rendon wouldn’t have Seager then. If had Lindor no way Crawford is on team today,

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    • ayrbhoy

      5 years ago

      Seager could’ve possibly handled 2nd? I never thought Moustakas could’ve played 2nd but before Keston Huira was promoted he seemed to be fine in MIL

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    • Tim Dierkes

      5 years ago

      Seager was drafted two years prior to Rendon.

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      • ayrbhoy

        5 years ago

        TD- I took that as meaning Seager wouldn’t be at 3rd. That we would miss the best yrs of Seagers career

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  10. tonyinmunhall

    5 years ago

    What if the Pirates had got him?

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    • hiflew

      5 years ago

      Instead of Cole being traded away for a bunch of disappointing prospects, Rendon would have been traded away for fewer disappointing prospects since position players seem to be less in demand.

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    • JoeBrady

      5 years ago

      Imagine how good TB would be today if the Pirates had drafted Rendon?

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  11. Ol' Voodoo

    5 years ago

    SODO MOJO!

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  12. Dutch Vander Linde

    5 years ago

    Yeah, They’ll always be stuck behind by playing it safe. Sometimes you got to take chances

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  13. TJECK109

    5 years ago

    So mookie is better than cole?

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    • Tim Dierkes

      5 years ago

      He has been so far, yeah.

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  14. Platypus

    5 years ago

    you guys should do a piece about all the prospects that did not pan out for the M’s from 2010-2019. Its quite the list.

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  15. tommygun1971

    5 years ago

    Jack Z, what a disaster he was. How much he set back the franchise. Ugh…

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  16. Strike Four

    5 years ago

    What if the Mariners drafted Rendon? Their moron GM would have traded him, that’s what if.

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    • jdgoat

      5 years ago

      Dipoto has never traded a player as good as Rendon during any of his tenures.

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    • AssumeFactsNotInEvidence

      5 years ago

      If the Mariners would’ve drafted Anthony Rendon, Strike Four would’ve never been conceived and the board could’ve been a quieter place!

      Oh my lord why didn’t they add that to the positive scenario!

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      • 24TheKid

        5 years ago

        Oh I wish.

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      • nymetsking

        5 years ago

        Adding to my quarantine ‘to do’ list: invent time machine and visit Mariners’ GM.

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  17. tribepride17

    5 years ago

    We need baseball soon

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  18. BuffaloBill92

    5 years ago

    The Mariners would have traded him for a 30somethin year old masher anyways.

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  19. hiflew

    5 years ago

    The thing missing from all of these “what if” stories (which I really enjoy BTW), is that these moves would not occur in a vacuum. There is no guarantee that Anthony Rendon becomes a star, or even a major league player, if he goes to Seattle. He could have been playing in a game in the Seattle minors where he injured his knee sliding into a base and just had his career end before it started. He could have been riding in a car in Seattle’s AA city that had an accident. Or any of an unlimited number of other things that would have been different could have happened. This is not just a video game where you can take a person from one slot and have them magically fit into another one. There are an impossible number of variables to account for.

    It’s the same sort of idea that says if Portland drafted Michael Jordan instead of Sam Bowie, Jordan might not have become the best basketball player of all time because he would have been on the bench behind Clyde Drexler instead of immediately being the #1 option in Chicago. The opportunity to reach your ceiling has to be present in order for you to actually reach your ceiling.

    That being said, it is still fun to imagine what could have been.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Bagels

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  20. JoeBrady

    5 years ago

    After Frank Robinson, Rendon might have the 2nd best swing I’ve ever seen.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Ridiculous. No RH hitter should be in the top 10 for “best” swing. Anyway, JD Drew is #1. I just ate five bagels.

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      • its_happening

        5 years ago

        Unfunny and ignorant. Thanks Monty. Go back to sleep now.

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    • Frisco500

      5 years ago

      Robinson was way before my time. So I cant really comment on him.
      Griffey Jr and Will Clark have the sweetest swings that I’ve seen. But yeah, it’s just a matter of opinion.

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  21. angelsfan4life

    5 years ago

    Jerry Dipsnot would have traded him for a border line #4 starter and a overhyped left handed reliever

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    • Eatdust666

      5 years ago

      Or someone who is incredibly injury prone.

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  22. khopper10

    5 years ago

    This is painful as a Mariners fan

    Reply
  23. rycm131

    5 years ago

    If the A’s drafted him he’d have 1 of 2 scenarios: #1 he’d still be In the minors (probably tearing it up at AA as they’d be nervous about “rushing him to the majors”. Or #2: he’d be a Blue Jay

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      You are the only one who thinks he would still be in the minors

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      • rycm131

        5 years ago

        You obviously haven’t followed the A’s over the last few decades

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  24. Stevil

    5 years ago

    The bigger question, in my opinion, is if they could have developed Rendon.

    But Ackley was drafted as an outfielder. He could have stayed there and Seager could have played 2B if Rendon looked like a better fit at 3B.

    Lot of different directions things could have gone, but I don’t think the Mariners had to include Canó in order to get Kelenic. More likely they could have sniped a player like McNeil in addition to Kelenic and Dunn without Canó’s massive contract included. NY still absorbed a good 64 million in that trade.

    Anyway, without those failures, perhaps Seattle would still have Jack, and as a result, …Jack. At least know they’re rebuilding properly and look well poised for 2022 or 2023.

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  25. Indianfan

    5 years ago

    What if the Indians had drafted Mike Trout? He would be playing for the Yankees, Red Sox or Dodgers right now.

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  26. Rosstradamus

    5 years ago

    This was a NO-BRAINER at the time! EVERYONE knew Rendon was the top-rated guy left and taking the ‘safe’ choice was ludicrous at #2 overall(Hultzen was like 26th-rated prospect coming into that draft) I’m certain Rendon would’ve moved to 2B, saving the M’s from that horrible Cano signing, which likely does mean NO Kelenic/Dunn now, but also would’ve been a MUCH better team last 6+ years and saved a boatload of cash, which they very well could’ve(Maybe lol) spent wisely, and then ya just never know…..!

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  27. 4WSsince04

    5 years ago

    MLB Trade Rumors has become MLB What Ifs.Com.

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    • hiflew

      5 years ago

      Since rosters are frozen and there are no trade rumors, what do you suggest they talk about? I think this is a good idea for the shutdown and I hope it continues, in a limited fashion, after everything resumes.

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    • TeddyBallgameYazJimEd

      5 years ago

      If’s and buts
      If’s and buts
      My Aunt would be my Uncle
      If she just had nuts.

      Reply
  28. hiflew

    5 years ago

    Going back a little bit, I think you should do a what if the Rockies chose Evan Longoria at #2 in 2006 instead of Greg Reynolds. Nearly everyone was convinced it was going to happen, especially since they chose his Long Beach State teammate Troy Tulowitzki the year before. Imagine a left side infield of Tulo and Longo in their primes. I think the Rockies would have on the WS in 2009 with them.

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  29. throwinched10

    5 years ago

    Rendon or Seager would have been flipped or one of them would have been moved to 2b. That would have been cool to see though!

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  30. Kevin Rudolph

    5 years ago

    ugh, why do you have to rub it in…….what if we drafted Trout in 09 instead of Ackley, or Lincecum instead of Morrow…….

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    • khopper10

      5 years ago

      Lincecum made all the sense in the world coming from UW

      Reply
  31. Frisco500

    5 years ago

    Remember back when Kevin Frandsen said “Bryce Haper isnt the best player in baseball. Hes not even the best player on our team. That’s Anthony Rendon.” He caught some slack for that comment. Doubt many would disagree at this point.

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    • LouisianaAstros

      5 years ago

      Popular opinions aren’t always correct.

      We will see with Rendon. Harper has had a few huge years as well. But neither of them have been consistent.

      I do know in terms of people in the clubhouse you would rather have Rendon. Harper is a cancer.

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        Has Harper been cancer in the Philly clubhouse? I don’t think so. I think he’s matured a bit.

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        • LouisianaAstros

          5 years ago

          He went to a young team. They brought other vets in as well but for the most part Philly was a young team.

          The issue in Washington was between Harper and Ryan Zimmerman.
          Rendon sided with Zimmerman.

          After Harper left it was this was Zimmerman’s team once again.

          Regarding what is going on in Philly.
          Who knows?

          Reply
    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      What is your point? Did you disagree back then?

      Reply

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