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Despite Recent Signings, Marlins Don’t Owe Much Beyond 2020

By Jeff Todd | June 10, 2020 at 11:12am CDT

2020 salary terms still need to be hammered out. But what about what’s owed to players beyond that point? The near-term economic picture remains questionable at best. That’ll make teams all the more cautious with guaranteed future salaries.

Every organization has some amount of future cash committed to players, all of it done before the coronavirus pandemic swept the globe. There are several different ways to look at salaries; for instance, for purposes of calculating the luxury tax, the average annual value is the touchstone, with up-front bonuses spread over the life of the deal. For this exercise, we’ll focus on actual cash outlays that still have yet to be paid.

We’ll run through every team, with a big assist from the Cot’s Baseball Contracts database. Next up is the Marlins:

*Includes buyouts of club options over Miguel Rojas and Brandon Kintzler

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  1. Phiilies2020

    5 years ago

    I like what the Marlins did this offseason. They have some good young pitching in that organization, if they play their cards right I could see them contending sooner than some may think.

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  2. acarneglia

    5 years ago

    Says file not found. Might just be me

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    • nats3256

      5 years ago

      uhoh. not just you. I got it to.

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    • Jeff Todd

      5 years ago

      My fault, somehow screwed up posting this. Should be fixed now.

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      • snoopy369

        5 years ago

        @Jeff Todd- why is Corey Dickerson listed at 8.5M and not 9.5M (as per Cott’s)? Pretty simple contract, 8M 2020 9.5M 2021, so not sure why 1M would disappear from 2021?

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      • richt

        5 years ago

        Naturally, the Marlins would be the team to not show ANY future payroll commitments.

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  3. Not a clever name

    5 years ago

    Not working for me either, guess Jeter couldn’t afford to publish the list.

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  4. nats3256

    5 years ago

    says file not found on my end.

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  5. stollcm

    5 years ago

    Maybe there isn’t a file? Ha

    Reply
  6. snoopy369

    5 years ago

    Fortunately, this one is entirely trivial to explain:

    $9.5M in 2021 salary to Corey Dickerson; $5M in 2021 and $500k buyout in 2022 to Miguel Rojas; $250k buyout for Brandon Kintzler. That’s it.

    What’s even more impressive: their 2020 payroll is $70M (26 man). almost *one third* of that goes to Wei-Yin Chin, who’s not on the team anymore. (This is the last year he gets anything from them.) They’re only paying $48M to people who actually play for them.

    2021 will go up some, though; most of the team is in their 3rd and final pre-arb year, and so they’ll have a _lot_ of first year arb deals next year that are only making $500k or so this year – 8 by my count, including Caleb Smith, Ryan Stanek, Jorge Alfaro.

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  7. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    Dickerson deal is money. that guy might be the most underrated player in baseball.

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    • Leemitt

      5 years ago

      I wish the Phillies had found a way to keep Dickerson.

      Reply
    • throwinched10

      5 years ago

      Dickerson seems to have just been passed around. I am surprised he never became a steady regular LF/DH on an AL team. Bybsteady regular, I mean for multiple years.

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  8. case7187

    5 years ago

    This team should be kicked out of the league all they are is a minor league team that all teams have prospects they trade everyone instead of winning and competing they just stock the rest of the league

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    • clepto

      5 years ago

      Dumb comment. Think.

      Reply
    • Polish Hammer

      5 years ago

      Annual contender for the AAAA Florida League title…

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      5 years ago

      1997 and 2003 says you’re wrong.

      Reply
  9. Rangers29

    5 years ago

    The Marlins are in a very good spot unlike other rebuilding teams right now. Unlike the Tigers, the Marlins don’t have a Cabrera, or Zimmermann taking up budget room. Unlike the Orioles, the Marlins have better prospects (IMO). And unlike the Mariners, the Marlins have trade-able assets (Villar, Dickerson, Aguilar). They might not have the best farm system in baseball (though they still have a pretty good one IMO), but I think they are in the best place out of any of the other rebuilding teams.

    (I left the Pirates and Royals off because I wanted teams that are in similar stages of their rebuild.)

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    • throwinched10

      5 years ago

      I dont know how much value Aguilar has. Villar becomes extremely tradable if he shows he can play CF and hit .270 with 30 SB. Dickerson wont fetch much as it seems like the league doesnt value him that much.

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    • The Human Rain Delay

      5 years ago

      I wouldnt discount the Mariners – They gotta lotta fresh faces with upside and they have done a great job the last 1.5 years of rebuilding /getting rid of some bad contracts

      And most importantly they will spend when the time is right as some of these teams never will- I, as you do probably, find the AL West to be a pretty fascinating Div here soon. Literally wouldnt even begin to rank how I think these clubs are going to do over the next 5 yrs, Its the wide open West moving forward

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  10. bobtillman

    5 years ago

    They’re not in a bad spot, and fortunately they’re in the same division with a walking train wreck (Mets) and a smoldering dumpstwer fire (Phillies).

    But those teams can get better quick ,and have the resources. And the Nats and Braves are pretty smart folks.

    The Fish need what the Rays need; expansion (more immediate revenue) and realignment (out from under those big buck brethren in their division).

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      5 years ago

      Um, despite the financial situation in their division, since the Marlins came into existence, they have the most World Series Championships in the division.

      Reply
  11. Ruafraidofme

    5 years ago

    So the marlins owe the Yankees 30 million if Stanton doesn’t opt out. Is that this year or spread out?

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    • The Human Rain Delay

      5 years ago

      Mute, he will be in pinstripes forever

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        5 years ago

        I’m still shocked how “Jeter gifted Stanton to the Yankees”. Us Marlins fans really really really wanted the Marlins to be responsible for that contract for the remainder of his career.

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  12. AHH-Rox

    5 years ago

    Can you fix these posts to be readable on the iPhone?

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  13. mike156

    5 years ago

    As much as we dislike how the Marlins are run, I’ll bet you there are plenty of owners out there who would like to do the same thing–pocket the TV and revenue sharing money, keep your commitments short and cheap.. That’s part of the reason they’ve been so tough in the negotiations–they know the regular season will be almost meaningless, and they’d like the games played to be as inexpensive as possible to they can get to the playoffs, where the real money is.

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    • Polish Hammer

      5 years ago

      Exactly why I keep saying the league needs a salary cap in place, to not only set the ceiling but the floor as well.

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        5 years ago

        I have always said the same thing in that MLB would be better with a Cap & Floor system, along with something that falls along the line of the “Larry Bird Exemption” that the NBA has, that allows the potential free agents team to be the team that goes over the cap to keep their own player(s). This way, everything turns into pure baseball moves instead of financial moves. If a player wants to leave a team, it’s either the team doesn’t offer him a deal (which looks bad in front of their fans), or the player leaves for reasons other than the most amount available.

        As for how the Marlins do things. Can you really fault a team that is one of a handful of teams that has won 2 championships in the last 25 years?

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