The Dodgers have re-signed right-handed reliever Blake Treinen to a two-year, $17.5MM guarantee that includes an $8MM club option or a $1.5MM buyout for 2023, Bob Nightengale of USA Today was among those to report. Treinen is a client of Apex Baseball. MLBTR predicted he would land a two-year, $14.5MM guarantee at the beginning of the offseason.
Treinen was something of a buy-low pickup for the Dodgers last winter, though they did have to guarantee the former Athletics standout $10MM. While he was then coming off a disappointing season in Oakland, the move paid off handsomely for the World Series-winning Dodgers, who got 25 2/3 innings of 3.86 ERA ball with a 20.6 percent strikeout rate, 7.5 percent walk rate, and a tremendous 64 percent groundball rate from Treinen. The 32-year-old continued to average upward of 97 mph on his fastball along the way.
Putting aside his issues in 2019, Treinen has been one of the game’s most productive relievers throughout his career. In all, Treinen has pitched to a 3.02 ERA with a 23.3 strikeout percentage and a 9.4 percent walk rate in 425 2/3 major league innings. At his best, Treinen – also a former National – gave the A’s 80 1/3 frames of 0.78 ERA ball in 2018. While Treinen does have 72 saves on his resume, he has so far served as a setup man for the Dodgers, who continue to rely on Kenley Jansen as their game-ending answer.
Treinen should keep working as a bridge to Jansen in 2021, and the Dodgers will continue to feature a formidable bullpen even beyond those two. The Dodgers’ relief corps finished the 2020 campaign with a National League-best 2.74 ERA, and though Jake McGee turned in an excellent year and is now a free agent, they did add former All-Star Corey Knebel earlier this offseason.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
KG25Baseball
LETS GO!!!!
Luc 2
Hes gonna be trash after a good years. Then his option will be declined and be good again. The trienen times are weird
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
yep that’s generally the life of a reliever
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Treinen got roughed up in the NLCS and WS in 2020.
sherlock_
Dangit
SwingtheFNbat
I’d go back to the Dodgers to, if they were going to over pay me.
Loling @ you
Nice pick up and cheap. Hoping we pick up someone to replace turner next!
mlb9229
Hope they Treinen re-sign Turner next!
DODGER JR
Turner is asking four years and there’s NO WAY the Dodgers are giving him four years at age 36. He already has been hurt the past three years and will continue to break down.
ASapsFables
Justin Turner can ask for that but what team will meet that request? I’m guessing none will and that he will ultimately re-sign with the Dodgers unless they manage to pull off another blockbuster trade similar to their one last offseason that saw Mookie Betts and David Price land in LA. This winter, the Dodgers are reportedly in the mix for trade candidates like Francisco Lindor, Nolan Arenado or Trevor Story. Lindor would be the most likely but the acquisition of any one of those players would likely mean the end of Turner’s career with the Dodgers.
BlueSkies_LA
So far I haven’t seen a logical argument for how Lindor makes any sense for the Dodgers. If they don’t bring Turner back they need to cover 3B, not SS.
ASapsFables
The thinking follows that the Dodgers would shift Corey Seager to 3B with Lindor taking over at SS. As a switch-hitter, Lindor would also add better balance to a Dodger batting order that still leans left-handed. Lindor might also become the Dodgers leadoff hitter, allowing Mookie Betts power to play at #3. Betts could also remain at #1 with Lindor following him in the #2 hole.
As a Dodgers fan you have to appreciate the flexibility and versatility they encourage with most of their players. It’s hard to argue that Lindor wouldn’t be a nice upgrade to an already potent batting order. I also believe Lindor at SS and Seager at 3B would improve the Dodgers infield defense as well, especially with Turner not getting any younger.
The big question mark going forward with the Dodgers regardless of who plays 3B in 2021 figures to be at 2B. Is Gavin Lux their long term solution? Would he need to be a part of the package going back to Cleveland for Lindor? The question mark at 2B is why free agent DJ LeMahieu has popped up in the latest Dodger rumors.
There are a lot of potential moving parts here but the simplest and most likely outcome is that Turner re-signs with the Dodgers.
BlueSkies_LA
The problem with that theory is the chances of the Dodgers moving Seager to 3B, especially in his walk year, are practically zero, so any talk about what Lindor would bring to the lineup or what they’d have to give up to get him is kind of besides the point. LeMahieu makes sense because of the vacancy at 2B, but a lot of the talk about him seems to be going in the direction of him being a replacement for Turner. This is nonsensical. LeMahieu can play 3B but his premium value is at 2B.
Agree that the most likely scenario is Turner is signed back. That should just happen. On Lux, I don’t see the Dodgers being ready to count on him and that likely leaves him in a blocked situation. He could be used as bait for an Arenado trade but the Rockies would have to kick in a whole lot of cash for that to happen.
LaFlamaBlanca
So the Dodgers are gonna waste away elite prospects just to acquire Lindor (free agent after 2021) and move Seager (their world series MVP) to 3rd during his free agent season (a position he has never played in his career). Common now, are the Dodgers really gonna roll that dice and potentially lose on prospects and both Lindor/Seager to free agency. I doubt either player signs any sort of extension seeing as this will be their first go at free agency and will both command huge contracts. A much more realistic scenario for the Dodgers is to sign Dj Lemahieu to a 5 year 100-120 million deal and move him to 3rd base.
BlueSkies_LA
FWIW, Seager has played some 3B in the minors and one game in the majors (first season). It still makes no sense to move him there now.
I can’t think of a situation where a team has signed a player with premium defensive value at one position for the purpose of him playing a different position.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I’m cooling on DJ LeMaahieu. The push back on him while he was at Colorado was that his stats were inflated at Coors. He moves to another hitter friendly park in Yankee Stadium. The concern is that his away OPS is a fraction of his Home OPS. If you look at his last three seasons (one in Colorado and two with the Yankees), over a course of more than 720 plate appearances his away OPS is an average of 0.764. That’s not worth the $20mm plus when he would be playing in a pitcher friendly park as Dodger Stadium. His production would not even match Turner’s at that rate and you’d be paying more. If he’s pegged to play 2B I guess it makes more sense but an expensive and risky acquisition.
DocBB
$9M is cheap a year for a negative WAR guy the last 2 years?…ok
Brew’88
Not so cheap when you consider his descent to mediocrity past two years. (era 4.7 in 83 innings), and his poor post-season record. But Dodgers must see something…
SwingtheFNbat
This deal is not cheap…. Overpay!
Rangers29
That’s a great signing for L.A. Getting him back is a huge win for their pen.
Cambio
Man, these are treinen times for all…
Loling @ you
I’m buying? or keep treinen?
davidk1979
Nightengale broke a story?!
kc38
Seems cheap
Miles1002
Love this for the Dodgers bullpen and at a great price.
SwingtheFNbat
Great price? Lmao! Overpay here!
charlie 6
Kind of surprising. $17M for a guy who was decent but far from dominant. I would have thought the Kenley extension and Joe Kelly deals made them hesitant about multi-year FA relievers.
paddyo furnichuh
@charlie $17.5M for 2 years, so $8.75M AAV. I’d bet LAD deemed Hendriks as too expensive and went w/ Treinen for a bit less AAV.
larry48
Now la to go after Hendricks for 3 yrs 36 with a 4-year option.
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
They would do that Kenley extension 100 out of 100 times with the bullpen they had.
Jansen the last 3 years.
3.34 ERA, 1.044 WHIP, 11.0 K/9, 2.4 BB/9 and usually was LA’s best RP unless you’re a fan of Dylan Floro’s 2018.
They wouldn’t redo it at this age but they had no choice at the time.
charlie 6
$16M per annum for a guy who was dominant one year, not the last three, does not seem like something they would re-do.
DocBB
He’s actually been a below average reliever the last 2 years. Negative WAR 2019 and 2020. Plus his SO/9 was only 7.7 last year which is way down from 2018 where it was 11.2. Red Flags..
LaFlamaBlanca
Are you seriously using WAR as a means to evaluate relievers? really? Especially in a season where said player pitched 25 innings maaaaaaan smh.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Friedman hasn’t had the best success when he spends on the bullpen so far. I’d say 0 for 3. Jansen and Joe Kelly contracts have been clear failures. Treinen last year was a miss more than a failure. He had to extend Jansen and I can understand signing Treinen last year. Joe Kelly contract made no sense to me. I’d put this Treinen contract somewhere in the middle. It likely won’t be a failure but seems like an overpay. He has nasty power stuff and in general is around the plate but seems like he’s struggling to find the strike zone too often and once in a while has a major blow up and thus the nickname train-wreck Treinen. It’s not necessarily the walk rate which is not great but falling behind and having to throw pitches over the plate. Then he becomes more hit-able.
Brew’88
ERA just under 5 over past two years
Cam
Pretty good deal on the surface. I thought Treinen might get 3 guaranteed – would be interested to know of that many years was on offer anywhere else. Welcome back, Blake!
Hosmer for HOF
The dodgers always find ways to make these deals happen. He’s high risk high reward but they still get this guy for $8M and $7M more at a discount if he’s high caliber. Friedman and preller are arguably the two best GMs out there at this kind of stuff.
Loling @ you
Putting preller in same breath as Friedman is a disgrace. Sure preller has made moves but what has he done over a long duration? He has 1 winning season in 7 years and that was in a 60 game season…..
dan55
Say what you will about Preller, but he has been one of the best GMs in the league at signing relievers.
MoRivera 1999
Using your logic, Tatsumaki: Friedman and the LAD have one title “and that was in a 60 game season….” Cuts both ways…
Loling @ you
7 division titles 3 World Series appearances 1 win and 1 stolen for friedman. Preller since 2014 1 winning season in shortened covid year lol. Sure they Both make trades but Not the same not even close
MWeller77
Dodger fan here, and while I agree that Friedman > Preller, it’s a bit misleading to compare their results straight up like that, given that Friedman has had access to a much higher payroll than Preller.
Preller’s “rock-star GM” offseason was a disaster, but he rebounded quite nicely. He’s not as far away from Friedman as your comment suggests, IMO.
Dodger Dog
Agreed
DODGER JR
Yah but the Dodgers still get the same WS ring so it doesn’t matter how many games they played. They played an extra round of playoffs and got the job done. No one says anything about the Dodgers 81 WS team that didn’t play a full season because of the strike. All 30 teams had the same chance to get the job done and the Dodgers survived.
Luc 2
I think people are saying this dodger WS isn’t really because 60 games season which was much shorter and after all there losses. To my Nats and Red Sox. So in my opinion there a great regular season team and ok playoff team. There best run was 2017. I also think people like kershaw wouldn’t have been as good if they played a 162 because he said he felt fresh and that’s because he didn’t pitch a lot this time so of course he gonna be better. Im not saying this because I hate the Dodgers its my opinion
Hosmer for HOF
Tastumaki personally I think you’re posts are clown posts anyways.. but the difference is Friedman inherited a winning team and infinite budget on the downslope of a division rivals dynasty. The NL West is generally run by the AL East powerhouse equivalent of the Yankees and Red Sox. TELL ME how preller setting a B-rate franchise in the 2020 baseball dynasties argument with the dodgers where they’re at is a C grade or worse performance; what you’re implying
bellybombs
A team with bloated contracts for non productive players.
Brew’88
Preller would never pay 17.5 million for a guy with ERA just under 5 past two years, but maybe that’s because his budget isn’t as big as Friedman’s
bleedingblue1996
You’re right but he would pay Pomeranz 36 million and Eric hosmer 144 mil.
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
Scary thing is Zaidi might be top 5 gm at doing the same.
If he starts winning in SF he should have no problem getting similar signings.
NL west doesn’t look to be getting easier.
giantsphan12
@crypo, totally agreed. Giants are more than a few years behind the Dodgers tho, and likely the same with the Friars. NL West is a tough division!!
iml12
Based on Trevor May contract he got market value or slightly higher. I wouldn’t call this some genius negotiation.
StreakingBlue
I don’t see his signing as high risk. Actually looks like he wanted to stay with Dodgers.
fox471 Dave
Agreed! Great news for Dodger fans. Treinen is a winner, notwithstanding his poor 2019.
Luc 2
Winner my ass he sucks when ha has pressure. Like when he was promoted as closer for Nats knowing they would rely on him. Also he was great with A’s cuz no pressure. He was trash in NLCS and WS he cant deliver in big moments it was for the money.
Brew’88
ERA just under 5 last two years, In post-season his ERA is 6. winner?
LordD99
They made it happen by offering $17.5M. No mystery.
bellybombs
2019 was an aberration. He improved in 2020 and the Dodgers obviously think he will get even better.
bot
This year Friedman is spending 78 million on janson, price, pollock, Taylor, treinen, and Kelly. That’s more than Tampa will spend all year on roll players. They’ll also go over the 210 threshold with their next signing.
Rock star is right term – blow threw all your money in short term then watch everything u built crash and burn once u can’t afford to keep it up !
Loling @ you
@bot you do realize that kershaw, kenley and Kelly are all gone next year? That frees up nearly 50+ million alone not including potential trades etc.
Brew’88
Do you really think they’ll let Kershaw waik?
BlueSkies_LA
No chance.
cwsOverhaul
Good news for the remaining closers. Sets the tone to get better guaranteed money and perhaps years than expected.
Whiskey and leather balls
18 million huh, hope it works out for them
DocBB
Negative WAR reliever are rejoicing today!
Mrtwotone
Yay!!! Were finally getting some action!
timmay
Mlb trade rumors projection at start of season was 2 years 14 million. So looks like even with the slow moving off season Treinen did well.
brushbackmlb
As a White Sox fan, I was hoping we’d get him, but didn’t think he’d get that much cash. I have to imagine this payday really pushes the cost of Liam Hendriks up. Maybe Colomé too.
LordD99
As I noted in the Grossman thread, I see no evidence yet of a decrease in salaries, just a delay in signings.
charlie 6
The recent “new pitching stats” article said top relievers have a K minus BB % around 27. So his is half that. But a very high GB rate.
LordD99
Groundballers usually have lower K rates. That means they’re often undervalued by FIP and WAR.
DarkSide830
darn. shouldve predicted this.
Francys01
Me too man. I thought Treinen was going to pitch for the Phillies.
GoLandCrabs
I picked almost high profile reliever to Philly. Guarantee to get 1 right at some point.
Rangers29
I’m sitting at two boys, let’s gooo!!!
mlb1225
I’m not. I’m 0/2 on the day.
Rangers29
I mean for the whole year lmao. I actually had Grossman going to L.A.
Rangers29
Could’ve had more, but I had a brain-fart with Greg Holland to the Cards. Yep, I did that.
dan55
Drew Smyly and Blake Treinen are the only ones I’ve gotten right so far.
Rangers29
Ditto
mlb1225
Holland and Smyly are the only two I’ve gotten right so far, I think. Unless Gausman was on the list, then three, but I don’t remember.
lolzmets
Nobody wants to play in Philly. It’s a loser franchise, always has been.
DarkSide830
yeah, except that Harper fellow apparently. real loser he is.
Willie Mays Hayes
He’s no Eric Gagne!!!
Misfit0620
Don’t need him to be. Just put do what he did in 2020 and I’m good
vtadave
Well.. ok
HalosHeavenJJ
He’s probably not on the same stuff.
MetsFan22
I like the may deal a lot better now!
WarkMohlers
Nobody tell him this deal is better
lolzmets
Basic economics. May stinks.
GoLandCrabs
Treinen, Kelly, Graterol, Kneble, Kahnle. I don’t want to hear about how Friedman doesn’t care about the pen ever again.
thebaseballfanatic
I just realized that the Dodgers pen gained a lot more arms than I thought this offseason 0-o
Cap & Crunch
Victor and Caleb in 22 as well
dan55
This is a good low risk deal for the Dodgers. The reliever market has been pretty slow this year, so I hope this leads to more deals for relievers.
pcwizblue
That’s right, great sign of things to come. Turner will be back, he understands that he can’t get a 4 year deal.
It would also be nice if we could get DJ LeMahieu. He and DJ hits for high average
VonPurpleHayes
May and then much later Treinen. Lots of bullpen arms still out there. Do the dominos start falling or do things continue to progress at a snail’s pace?
larry48
slow is the word going forward.
A Seal
I LOVE IT!
Now can we not focus on this and focus on Georgia?
dan55
This is a website called “mlbtraderumors,” so I’m pretty confused as to why you think it should focus on Georgia right now.
1984wasntamanual
Do you mean the Braves? Yeah, I guess they have been quiet recently.
Rangers29
Don’t make this political please.
mlb1225
You right, Braves haven’t made many moves since signing Smyly and Morton.
Rangers29
Should the Braves sign Pederson, sign Puig, or trade for Gallo? Right now.
WarkMohlers
I wouldn’t mind Puig. I also wouldn’t mind Dipoto and AA finding a deal for Haniger. Not sure of his value, but Im sure Seattle’s price will be above what he’s currently worth but definitely reasonable compared to potential
mlb1225
If they can find a platoon partner for Pederson, then I’d be pursuing him. But I’d be calling the Arizona Diamondbacks asking about Kole Calhoun. If they’re selling, he’d be a great guy to go after.
larry48
Calhoun is really bad offensive strikes out a lot
mlb1225
He’s only struck out at a 21.5% rate last year and 24.4% rate the last three years combined which isn’t bad considering the league average K-rate is 23.4%. He hits a lot of home runs, has been an above average batter the last 2 seasons and is a solid fielder. He’s a 3-WAR player over a full season.
Rangers29
Or you overpay a little bit to pry Gallo away from Texas and bank on him bouncing back (something he’s likely to do in Atlanta).
WarkMohlers
You just want the Braves to pull a Tex 2.0. We see you.
mlb1225
Braves haven’t really been a team to trade any of their big time prospects, especially for a guy with high risk like Gallo. The biggest prospect I can think of them trading was Kolby Allard.
Rangers29
I’d much rather Texas hold on to Gallo until at least mid-season, but that’s why Atlanta would over-pay a little bit right now. I have noticed that they have been gun-shy about trading their prospects recently as well, but I think I could formulate a pretty good Gallo trade that’s fair for both sides, just off the top of my head.
Though I think the thought of a Gallo trade with Philly intrigues me a lot more.
mlb1225
Holding onto him until mid-season might be best. Hope he can regain some of the value he lost during the 2020 season. If he can have a first half like he did in 2019, then he might get back a decent return. I just don’t know if the Braves would be willing to part with any high ranking prospects for Gallo though. You might get someone like Davidson or Muller as a headliner.
Rangers29
Yeah, I’d rather not trade him right now, but this off-season’s been such a stalemate that I’m just running scenarios through my head right now.
I want us to sit on Gallo till at least mid season because then he’d either, A: put up another all-star season with great defense, or B: be subpar offensively (with tons of pop) again though with great defense. Then we have to choose which path we go down regarding each scenario. With A, I’d say we trade him to a contending team like ATL or maybe even SF. With B, I’d say we wait till the end of the season and then work out a cheap extension. Either one is a good decision regarding the circumstances imo.
Instead of Gallo trade talk, I should instead be thinking about if we get another starter, signing a backup defensive catcher, and signing a stopgap at 3b.
mlb1225
I could see the Rangers going after Alex Avilia then. Gives you some defense behind the plate and a guy who gets on base with some pop. Maybe for a stopgap 3B, go after Jedd Gyorko. He brings power to the table and a good glove over at the hot corner.
Rangers29
I, personally, would be fine with not signing a catcher and just letting Trevino hold it down with a young guy like Aramis Garcia or a minor league pickup like Federowicz was. I don’t feel like we need to spend there whatsoever, but if we do, a Chirinos re-reunion wouldn’t suck as a backup.
I hate to say this, but I irrationally dislike Gyorko, but I know he’d be a fine fill in piece for this team. It’s conflicting, but I understand why we’d get him lol.
PadSquad.619
Good pick up for the Dodgers. The Fernando Tatis secret weapon i swear
ASapsFables
A multi-million dollar question remains in the wake of the Blake Treinen signing: Does this take the Dodgers out of the Liam Hendriks sweepstakes? If so, this could be good news for the White Sox and Blue Jays who are reported to be his two other hottest suitors.
Rangers29
And Astros.
ASapsFables
Not so sure that the Astros will get into a bidding war with the White Sox, Blue Jays and perhaps even the Mets when they apparently can’t afford to keep two of their own FA starting OF’s in George Springer and Michael Brantley.
Luc 2
Springer wanted out and Brantley is old and wants to win WS or he wanted to test market that was a poor assessment
quin14
This move makes me think the Dodgers are going to make a substantial signing. They were talking to other bullpen pieces that would have cost more. I’m gonna make a crazy prediction they sign LaMahieu or Bauer.
ASapsFables
Perhaps, although that is generally not the m.o. of Andrew Friedman. More likely the Dodgers will re-sign 3B Justin Turner or pursue a blockbuster trade for Francisco Lindor, Nolan Arenado or Trevor Story. In the trade scenario, my money would be on Lindor since Rockies Owner/CEO Dick Monfort is unlikely to sign off on a swap of this magnitude with his division rivals.
dan55
Pretty good analysis here. However, I think you might be underestimating the financial toll COVID took on the Rockies franchise. I think if the Dodgers offered to take on most of the Arenado contract, then they might be able to get him even though the Rockies and Dodgers play in the same division.
ASapsFables
I don’t believe the Monfort brothers aren’t hurting for money as the sons of one of the larger Meat Packers in the US. They are big fans of both Arenado and Story. They signed off on the huge Arenado extension. Their pride alone would suggest any trade of either All-Star would be to a team outside the division, preferably one not in the NL. Despite the pandemic, they shouldn’t be lacking in interested teams for either player, especially Story who is just finishing his own extension that bought out his last two years of arbitration eligibility.
In the NL, I could easily envision the Mets having interest and affording either Arenado or Story. Same might go for the Blue Jays in the AL. Each are reported potential suitors for the Indians Francisco Lindor. If ‘Mr. Smile’ winds up with the Dodgers, I could envision both the Mets and Blue Jays ramping up trade discussions with the Rockies.
larry48
dodgers not in on Lindor, Story they are in great shape if Turner comes back if he doesn’t they have several good choices. Dodgers will not go 4 years if Turner keeps demanding Dodgers will go a different direction. Dodgers still need right-handed power hitter.
larry48
Lamahieu yes, no on Bauer.
Beldar J. Conehead
Adios, Jansen. Some team could probably use him when they’re behind 9-2 in the 4th inning.
blueblood1217
Very happy with this signing. Looking like LA could have a decent pen this season. Happy New Year to all you guys who comment on the site. As well as Tim, Steve and all the writers who make this site great.
DarkSide830
friendly fire!
Cap & Crunch
Love it !
On paper this is the best pen in the whole 9 year run
Sets up a good/young/cheap/upside pen for 22 and beyond – Another seasoning year for Victor and Graterol + next year Kahnle /Caleb join the fold just as Jansen Kelley depart clearing up 28 mill on the payroll.
Our bullpens of the past felt like they were built outta straw for many years. Feels like we got some drywall and lumber now to build with. Exciting times
Rangers29
Y’all should be excited. The Dodgers are the Rays, but with money. That’s a scary thought to other teams all around the game.
Bruin1012
This was market value signing the Dodgers are paying 17.5 million for the next two years for an up and down 32 year old relief pitcher. The far more consistent quite frankly better and younger could of been had for 10 million but no one including the Dodgers bit. Seems strange to me if Treinen gets 8.75 million per year but everyone passed on the superior younger reliever at 10 million.
larry48
Hands have lost the velocity off his fastball the last 2 years, and that why teams all declined the 10 million.
Bruin1012
Doesn’t matter he has still been the much better reliever numbers wise even with the reduced velocity. Hand strikes out more guys per 9 walks less guys per 9 allows less homers per 9 the only thing that Blake Treinen does better then Hand is induce ground balls.
alexthegod
I’m pretty surprised the Dodgers brought him back with essentially a 1 year deal at 8+mill. A pretty safe deal for the Dodgers.
LordD99
A two-year deal. $17.5 guaranteed.
DocBB
How is it safe? He has had a negative WAR the last 2 years
towinagain
Good re-sign by the Dodgers. As a Padres fan he had some nasty stuff against my Pads.
BlueSkies_LA
Funny how this happened without a single rumor surfacing about Treinen. Let that be a lesson to all of us.
OCTraveler
This signing give insurance for another subpar Jansen start – it in fact would with Kelly, Treinen , etc intact allow the Dodgers to possibly include Jansen in a deal somewhere
LordD99
Jansen is still good but he’s all three years removed from being an elite reliever. No one will pay $20M for his services. I suspect if he was a free agent he’d get something close to Treinen, maybe a tick more 2/20. So the Dodgers would have to pay down his 2021 salary considerably and still not expect much of a return since they’d be paying him down to his current market value and he only has one year of control. He’s worth more to the Dodgers as a valuable but overpaid reliever than anything they’d get back.
bot
Nobody paying attention to cap ?? This deal maxes dodgers out. So they going to blow right past the 210 cap to sign or acquire another player ?? Turner/Lindor, nearly every cent they make will be penalized. That makes this signing terrible ! Annual to high, length to long and production not worth it. Keep it up dodgers ! MLB fans ready to see y’all implode
larry48
Treinen’s contract is 6 million in 2021 and 2022 with a 4 million signing bonus. Also, 1.5 buy out in 2023 or club option for 8 million. Dodgers are still under CBT but dought that will stop them if they get anyone who is a difference-maker.
JoeBrady
1-I thought it was slightly high, but two years is not really too long.
2-The LAD print money. They won’t worry about going slightly over cap.
3-Do you really think LAD is going to implode? They finished 1st 7 years in a row. Next year, their payroll will be starting at ~$128M, and that would include their entire rotation, their closer, and six offensive players. They will have absolutely no problem filling out the rest of their roster.
Cap & Crunch
Length too long? 2 yrs?
They’ve been ready for 8 yrs so whats a couple more huh?
larry48
Jansen will do well in 2021 if they don’t try to use him 2 days in a row. If you look back at the games that he had trouble it was the second game in a row. Give him a day off between games and he has better location and velocity.
DocBB
Massive overpay for a guy who hasn’t been any good since 2018. -0.5 WAR in last 2 years.
JoeBrady
Not for nothing, but this is at least the 5th time this morning you mentioned his 2-year negative WAR.
math
Stop using WAR when talking about relievers. If you’re talking about the last two years combined then you must take into account that he was much better in 2020 than he was in 2019.
JoeBrady
He was better in 2020, but hardly special. And he got hit fairly hard in his final 10 games, as well as in the playoffs.
Put another way, my RS need BP help, but is certainly not a signing I’d recommend for them.
math
No one said he was special. He got hit fairly hard pitching three days in a row against one of the best offenses in the league in the Braves.
Put another way, 2 years under $10M for a veteran reliever with big game experience is not a gamble for a team like the Dodgers.
SwingtheFNbat
I LOVE IT! These whack jobs on here are giving the G.M. mad props on an OVERPAY! LMAO!
Echopark
Here is why I like it: (1) Treinen was better than some of his numbers suggest, (2) I think he will get better with a second year working with he Dodgers, and (3) I don’t think it necessarily precludes one more bullpen move. I would like to see one more 4 seamer coming out of the pen – right now, Knebel is all we got. But that could be someone internal or maybe on the cheap. Lot’s more bowling balls next year with Treinen and Graterol.
frankiegxiii
There’s another four seam pitcher in Morrow if he’s able to come back from his injuries