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Blue Jays Sign GM Ross Atkins To Five-Year Extension

By Steve Adams | April 7, 2021 at 9:32am CDT

9:32am: Atkins’ contract begins at the end of this season, so it covers the 2022-26 campaigns, Shi Davidi of Sportsnet tweets. He’s now signed one year longer than Shapiro.

8:37am: The Blue Jays announced Wednesday that they’ve signed general manager Ross Atkins to a five-year extension. The exact length of Atkins’ prior contract wasn’t publicly known, though he last inked an extension in June 2019. This new five-year pact lends some clarity to his contractual status and cements that Atkins and president Mark Shapiro, who was extended through the 2025 season earlier this year, will continue to head up Blue Jays operations for the foreseeable future.

Ross Atkins | Kevin Sousa-USA TODAY Sports

Originally hired as the team’s general manager in Dec. 2015, Atkins has spent the past five years heading up Toronto’s baseball operations department. There were some lean years for the Jays from 2017-19 as Atkins, Shapiro and their front office team turned over the farm system and worked to compile a core upon which they could build. The Jays currently have the game’s third-best farm system, according to both Baseball America and The Athletic. The fruits of those efforts to restock the farm already began to manifest in 2020, when the Jays nabbed a playoff spot in last year’s expanded field.

With the likes of Bo Bichette, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Cavan Biggio, Lourdes Gurriel Jr. and Teoscar Hernandez all coming together at the big league level, the Jays began supplementing that core on the free-agent market heading into the 2020 season. Hyun Jin Ryu inked a four-year, $80MM deal to head up a rotation that had vaunted pitching prospect Nate Pearson on the horizon, and the Jays made a larger splash this past offseason when they inked George Springer to the largest deal in franchise history: a six-year, $150MM contract.

Some of the current roster — Guerrero, Rowdy Tellez, Danny Jansen — was acquired prior to the hiring of Atkins. As is the case with most front-office shuffles, there’s some groundwork laid by the prior group that continues to shape the long-term direction of the club and some continuity from regime to regime. Tony LaCava, for instance, was an assistant GM under Alex Anthopoulos and still holds a key position (senior vice president of player personnel) in the current group.

[Related — GM Trade History: Blue Jays’ Ross Atkins]

Acquiring Hernandez from the Astros in exchange for Francisco Liriano is likely the most notable success on the trade market under Atkins, while key international signings like Gurriel and Alejandro Kirk have begun to provide value at the MLB level as well. Time will tell whether the investment in Springer proves fruitful, but the Ryu investment has paid off so far and it’s hard to fault a one-year pact for a player of Marcus Semien’s caliber. There have certainly been missteps along the way — the Randal Grichuk trade worked out nicely; his extension did not — but Atkins has clearly commanded the confidence of ownership and is now being rewarded with a lengthy extension for his efforts.

For all of the Jays’ recent spending, the affordable nature of their young core gives them the flexibility to continue being aggressive on the market next winter. There was a clear stopping point this winter, as the Jays cooled their spending despite some a relatively questionable rotation composition. But the Jays only have about $65MM committed to the 2022 roster at present, and the only sizable arbitration raises on the docket figure to be Hernandez (who’ll get a bump from this year’s $4.325MM salary) and Guerrero (who’ll be arb-eligible for the first time).

The Blue Jays aren’t considered division favorites in 2021, but they have one of the game’s top farm systems, a promising core of controllable young big leaguers upon which to build, and considerable payroll flexibility heading into a historically strong class of free agents next winter. The future looks bright.

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  1. deeeznutz

    4 years ago

    Good Move! 1st

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  2. Captain-Judge99

    4 years ago

    Why? What has he done? “Dunedin’s Finest” is lucky to finish the AL East in 2nd place this season, with no pitching. Smh. I think I will stop complaining about Ca$hman now, not that he is some kind of prize either.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      4 years ago

      Should a Yankees fan really be complaining about another teams pitching staff? yanks have just as many question marks behind Cole

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      • JLML57

        4 years ago

        Really, I know it’s early, but the Yankees have the second best ERA in MLB among their starters at 1.70. Phillies are first at 1.47.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 years ago

          It’s 5 games don’t throw stats out

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        • jason 54

          4 years ago

          And lost 2 of 3 to this very team! Lmao. Let’s talk next week when the same thing happens. Pearson, Ray and Hatch return in April too.

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @jason- so scared really… lol. only you would get juiced over winning 2 of 3 games to begin the season. Ask yourself where will you be towards the end of the season? Probably locked In your Mother’s basement.

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        • bigdaddyt

          4 years ago

          Yankee 4 life your the reason we can’t have a comment section on major stories

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        • jdgoat

          4 years ago

          The best part about this guys schtick is that he spent the whole offseason saying Toronto couldn’t sign free agents, and then they went out and spent the most money in free agency lmao. Now this has to be his new trolling schtick. The horror of having to have an actual baseball conversation on a a baseball website, must resort to constant trolling.

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        • jason 54

          4 years ago

          I guess we’ll see. Deep down you’re probably scared. Look at young mlb talent and let’s see who will be locked in their neglectful mom basement. MLB fans let this yanks fan know who has the brighter future from today going further. The $226 million dollar yanks with the same gm they’ve had . On top of the age of the mlb team or the younger more dynamic team with the top 5 farm system. All yanks fans are scared so chime in. If you want to bet. Kramer 419 yah00

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @jason- I don’t want to take your $. One day I want you to leave Mom’s locked basement. You owe it to yourself.

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        • debubba

          4 years ago

          That’s like saying the first person out of the blocks in the 400m in track will be the winner. Yanks starters will be 8th in the AL in WAR this year. Take a picture of this because you’ll be amazed when it comes true!

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @jdgoat- they signed Springer that was good. But how can the Jays win the AL East with this horrible starting pitching? That was my point. With all this $ winning doesn’t seem like a priority for this delusional organization.

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        • One Bite Hotdog

          4 years ago

          @biddaddyt—-and a prime example of why I voted for the mute button.

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      • Captain-Judge99

        4 years ago

        @Dustyslambchops23- ok will I hear from you towards the all star break when your staring ^ at the Yankees in the division? Ugh, probably not.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 years ago

          I think the yanks will be in first, I’m not blinded by fandom. However it’s not going to be the yanks SP that will carry them to 1st

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @Dustyslambchops- ok. But what’s wrong with the Yankees starting pitching? Jays got Ryu. But who is really good after that? If the Jays traded for Castillo and signed Bauer they would of definitely had a chance to win the AL East. My point is they let their die hard fans down. Now isn’t the time to be handing out 5 year extensions.

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        • Diggydugler

          4 years ago

          He is saying the Yankees rotation is just as bad, not that the Jays rotation is good. Ca$hman let the fans down again!

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        • jason 54

          4 years ago

          If they signed Bauer they would be the yanks. Which is pathetically a little worse than the Sox

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        • skip 2

          4 years ago

          Yes definitely Yankee fan should be use to it by now!

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @skip- used to what? Being a winning team and getting in the playoffs all the time? Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense. Smh

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        • Captain-Judge99

          4 years ago

          @jason- obviously your slow. Without signing Bauer or trading for Castillo how can “Dunedin’s Finest” compete in the AL East? They can’t. That was my point.

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        • skip 2

          4 years ago

          @yankee so is that what teams try to do is just get into the playoffs and call them selfs winners and Cashman the best GM? Look at his pay roll and how man rings do the have the last 2 decades??

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        • Taejonguy

          4 years ago

          Yankee 4 life… for such a dynasty, it has been an embarrassingly long time since the Yanks have won a World Series…

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    • Ted

      4 years ago

      A GM isn’t like a first baseman you can send away after a bad year. You have to keep a front office staff in place for a while to really understand what you have. Even if he hasn’t “done” anything you just have to wait and see long term how his philosophy plays out.

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    • StudWinfield

      4 years ago

      Dombroski, Sabean and Beans. Those are Cashman’s peers during his career and he’s the only one still a GM with the same team. Dom has had great success but has left each franchise in a rebuild. You can argue that Beane did more with less but head to head the Yanks waxed them in the playoffs and Beans is no longer technically the GM. One can argue that Sabean had a better career. He turned around the franchise his 2nd season and successfully rebuilt his core after that. But he too is no longer there and left the team in a rebuild mode.

      Meanwhile Cash kept a winning core and HOF manager his first 10 years, another 5 years of keeping an aging core successful with a new manager, bottomed out ’13-’16 and now has rebuilt the core with a new manager and potentially has several years left with them. His bottom was no less than 84 wins and 1 playoff appearance. No where near the disappoints of the late 60’s early 70’s or ’88-’92.

      20+ years of consistently making more good decisions than bad ones. He’s certainly not perfect and no doubt that there are others who are capable of producing 3-5 year windows of success. But I think he’s earned a little better criticism than ignorant buzz words like he’s no “prize” or the popular he “sucks”.

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      • Rbase

        4 years ago

        Agreed. Just look at the position players right now. Sanchez and Judge came from the farm, he got Voit for a reliever, got lemahieu on cheap deals (twice), got Torres for 1/2 a year of Chapman, Hicks for a backup catcher, Urshela for free and Stanton for nearly nothing. The only player that actually cost the Yankees talent is Frazier (miller trade). Plus he realizes that a good bullpen is the way to success. I don’t know what more you want from a GM.

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        • johnrealtime

          4 years ago

          Stanton is not a move to brag about. He is a 300 million oft injured dh. No one would take him at half of his remaining salary

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      What a pathetic joke you YANKEE fans are.

      An article on an executive of a team in your division, turns out to be all about you and that overpaid, underperforming team (last been in a WS in 2009).

      You kids understand as much about how baseball is played as your team plays it. Just sign a bunch of power pitchers and veteran position players that hit routine fly balls to RF which are HR’s in YANKEE Stadium. WOW! Heavy, man. Deep. Real Deep. Like really really Deep.

      Your stat-infested manager constantly gets out-managed by a real manager in Tampa Bay (it’s painful to watch). And your team will continue to finish behind the Rays – a small market team – because they know how to play baseball, and DA YANKEES do not.

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    • hugh jass

      4 years ago

      why are so many of the most toxic people on here fans of the yankees. your team is good, be happy instead of being toxic.

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      • Tatsumaki

        4 years ago

        I wonder where ducky and yankee stripper are, they seem to think all dodgers fans are cesspool yet heres one of there own yankee stans bashing another team and they are quiet. Yankees fans are the worst

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          @Tatsumaki I’ve honestly never seen Ducky troll anyone unwarranted and it’s usually in response to Yankees haters. He’s one of the good ones here. Sure there are some toxic ones but don’t lump us all together.

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        • Tatsumaki

          4 years ago

          @yankeesbleacher we had a discussion the other day and ducky seemed to think there weren’t any Yankees troll on the site. Saying that dodgers fans are amongst the worst when that’s simply not true. Never said he was the troll.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          As a passionate fan, he does get worked up sometimes in defending against trolls (from ALL teams). It’s a toxic environment here so we do constantly have to remind ourselves to not get caught up in all the mudslinging. I can think of at least a handful of Yankees fans here which will get my mute button once it’s implemented.

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        • johnrealtime

          4 years ago

          Yankee, Mets, White Sox have the worst trolls on this site IMO

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    • amk1920

      4 years ago

      Your Yankees pitching was so bad they gave a starter 320 million.

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    • amjr

      4 years ago

      They were clearly New York’s best team last year (playing their games in Buffalo). They’re going to be good for a while so get used to them, NY.

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  3. Diggydugler

    4 years ago

    But Roark!

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    • jason 54

      4 years ago

      Dfa’d by May 5. Bet. He does s*c*

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      • dman07

        4 years ago

        He’ll have a couple decent outings by May 5…

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    • Captain-Judge99

      4 years ago

      @Diggydugler- yes your right. Tanner Roark is a bullpen guy that you pay no more then $2-3 million annually for. The Jays did come in 2nd place, to sign Kluber. He didn’t take the $, even though they offered him $12 million.

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  4. thebaseballfanatic

    4 years ago

    Logical move. They built this team, now they’ll get to see how it plays out.

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  5. Rooty007

    4 years ago

    He has earned this extension and overall done a solid job. He does however have a few clunker decisions like Tanner Roark. Toronto fans still seem to love Alex Anthopolous and it will take a World series appearance before Jays fans finally concede he does a decent job.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      4 years ago

      Ha it’s true I miss AA. Even though he made his mistakes, he loved to take risks and swung for the fences. It was fun

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    • Diggydugler

      4 years ago

      AA made some blundees. Trading for 50 year old Dickey up there. Although a better pitcher than Roark, Roark only cost $24M over 2 years which to Rogers is a cup of coffee.

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    • jason 54

      4 years ago

      To say every decision is on the gm wether good or bad is a little short sided is a little short sighted. They’re are scouts. The Jays getting Bautista might not have been the gms great insight . The tigers getting Jdm. Probably wasn’t dumbrowskis call. Roark didn’t work out but possibly the jays scouting hit on ray and matz. Plus dozens of others. Teoscar. Etc

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    • 30 Parks

      4 years ago

      Jays fans love AA, rightfully so, because he was the first Jays’ GM in decades who was aggressive. AA didn’t treat Toronto like it was some northern outpost during the days of the fur trade. JP Ricciardi did significant damage to the mindset & general perception of the Jays franchise with his incessant insistence Toronto was a small market team in the big, bad AL East. Utter nonsense. Jays are finally getting the treatment they deserve – no more excuses. AA chased off the whoa-is-me outlook and the Jays’ present regime has picked-up on that approach.

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  6. Dustyslambchops23

    4 years ago

    I’m indifferent to him/Shapiro. At times I think he overvalues prospects and focuses more on turning flawed players in to gems vs acquiring consistent/ready players.

    Don’t mind this and they put the team in a good position to win for the next few years so deserves to see it through.

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      @ Dustyslambchops23;

      Atkins works for Shapiro. Period.

      He is not going to make any moves without Shapiro approving them, and possibly initiating them.

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  7. its_happening

    4 years ago

    Would have waited until May to finalize the extension and allowed a good 6-7 weeks to play out. Atkins has done some good and done some bad. Just like AA. But to say Atkins has earned a 5-year extension is a debate that can be had. Atkins is very replaceable.

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    • Diggydugler

      4 years ago

      The post indicates that this deal was signed in 2019 and it is just now being released officially.

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      • its_happening

        4 years ago

        Not sure if that’s better or worse.

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      • LordD99

        4 years ago

        My read is this is a new extension, different from the 2019 one.

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        • Steve Adams

          4 years ago

          Correct. He was extended in 2019, the terms weren’t released. Today’s extension is a five-year deal, superseding that previous deal (which I am guessing only ran through 2021) and extending Atkins into 2026.

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      • jaysfansince1977

        4 years ago

        Diggy it does not say that at all, it states his last extension was in June of 2019 and was probably only a two year extension!

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  8. dman07

    4 years ago

    This front office needs to get out of the habit of trading low tiered prospects for gambles. If this team wants to go deep in a playoff run they’ll have to do better at acquiring better talent.
    They can’t sign players to big multi year contracts for extra money/years forever…

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    • go_jays_go

      4 years ago

      As critical as I was about Shapiro / Atkins in 2017 – 2018, their success has surprisingly been about drafting and developing players. If that’s the case, then it’s more prudent to extend their own home grown players as opposed to big FA signings.
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      Since Ryu and Springer are the only big long term commitments, it’ll certainly give them the opportunity to re-sign their own players to long-term deals.

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  9. Joeypower

    4 years ago

    1.6 B. Spent since ‘09 0 rings… hi Yankees

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    • Captain-Judge99

      4 years ago

      @Joeypower- you really don’t think the Yankees aren’t getting to the World Series this season? The Dodgers, Braves, or Padres should be tough to beat. Stop being so salty about your Jays. No my fault they suck. Deal with it.

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      • Ducey

        4 years ago

        You feel better now?

        You are 46 yrs old and still have to resort to insults and tying your identity to the success of a team?

        “Hey look!” “The Yankees are good. That Yankees for Life guy called it. He is sooo cool!”

        Each one of your comments on this thread just make you look more and more pathetic.

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  10. bot

    4 years ago

    Well deserved. Even though their minor league system is top 10 – it’s vastly underrated. They have a slew of prospects who can still rise up the rankings into relevancy. Then jays will come into a window w a good amount of home grown talent and there’s endless potential there as Red Sox will be rebuilding and yankee contracts will be aging poorly.

    Not knocking the springer signing to badly. A little premature but there is no more difficult place to get stars to come to than Canada so u have to jump on those opportunities and overpay when they come about.

    Jays could come into a Houston type window of relevance and be atop the East for several years. Very interesting team

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    • jdgoat

      4 years ago

      Who do you think the underrated prospects are?

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      • bot

        4 years ago

        Basically all of them in top 20 on mlb outside of Pearson and Kirk. None of the rest, regardless where ranked, have enough pro ball experienced to properly be evaluated.

        So players like Martin, Goshans, and woods-Richardson (to a lesser degree), have a higher ceiling than players like Royce Lewis, Christian Pache, Joey Bart, krilloff and others as they have extensive track records in minors with less success than where ranking reflects.

        So trading any of those players could be like trading tatis away for a rental TOR. Best route is to give these guys another 1/2 or full season of pro ball before unloading them. Never know what u got til they are on the field

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  11. Joel Peterson

    4 years ago

    Baseball has a real genuine diversity issue. It seems to just get worse and worse. Why is it most GMs in the league look pretty much like this guy? Some nerdy white guy. Its not representing of our country and it absolutely is not of the league. The people who play the sport need to look like the ones who make decisions for the sport. If that’s not the case you end up with problems.

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    • StudWinfield

      4 years ago

      Insisting that someone needs to look a certain way in order to be successful is pretty much the definition of the “r” word. No?

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    • Ducey

      4 years ago

      Or you could just hire people not for their skin colour but for their beliefs, character and competence.

      Atkins led the Jays to pay their minor leaguers twice what other organisations did. He has been very vocal in supporting women and minorities. He has been very open to coming to Canada and embracing the country. He learned Spanish as a minor league player and spent lots of time in Venezuela as a player development guy.

      He is not one of the “problems”.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      I assume you are trolling. But, if you are not, then you clearly have no idea what the issue is. Most GMs today are hired on the basis of their education and experience, not the color of their skin.

      You are looking at the symptoms of the underlying issue. You should be looking at the underlying issue.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      I get what you’re saying but give it some time, man. Marlins’ hiring of Kim Ng was monumental and Jeter has done well with other diversity hirings. We’re slowly getting there but keeping the conversation alive is very important.

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      • JoeBrady

        4 years ago

        Ng is kind of exactly the opposite of what Joel is referring to. She is part of the new trend of GMs, all hired from Ivy League schools or their equivalents. And never played the game. And she replaced one of the few black GMs.

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  12. StudWinfield

    4 years ago

    Makes sense to give Atkins a shot at reaching the next level. Toronto has a history of trading for and keeping (read: paying) veterans when the time is right.

    You can argue that the entire pitching staff (sans Ryu) is still a giant question mark. But I can understand where the wait and see what we’ve got strategy is appropriate. Jays are no strangers to acquiring talent during the season.

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  13. baji kimran

    4 years ago

    Hello?…………….Jimmertee?………….Are you out there?……….*crickets*………….*crickets*…………..*crickets*…….

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    • jimmertee

      4 years ago

      BaBa, read bee-low.

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  14. jimmertee

    4 years ago

    I am sad this morning hearing this news.

    The best opportunity to win the WS in MLB is a team operating under an elite Pres/GM. This is not Shapiro and Atkins.

    I begged Edward Rogers[true] not to rehire either Shapiro or Atkins but he didn’t listen.

    At the end of 2016 I said the Jays wouldn’t have a shot at winning anything with Shapiro/Atkins for 5-7 years. I can now say this with all certainty, the BlueJays will not get to the World series, let alone win it under Shapiro/Atkins.

    Shapiro has done a great job with renovations and handling the covid thing but he or Atkins are not elite baseball men. They can build a farm system, they can amateur scout but it is well known if the professional baseball community that the BlueJays do not professionally scout well and they do not know other teams farm systems well.

    I begged Edward Rogers Jr to hire either Dombrowski or Epstein as the #1 baseball man in the BlueJays. He didn’t listen.

    But Shapiro and Atkins will tow the company line and do the Rogers money thing to the board’s letter. This was not the case with Beeston and Gillick.

    I am tired of poor baseball men running the BlueJays. We need elite.

    The current rotation burns outs by midyear or earlier along with the bullpen. The 2021 BlueJays do not even make the playoffs. Watch for it.

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    • Ducey

      4 years ago

      Wow, one of the owners of the team didn’t listen to Jimmer.

      I guess shoe shine guys dont have the clout they used to.

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      • jimmertee

        4 years ago

        Ducey, You”ll have to find someone else to shine your tips.

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        • Ducey

          4 years ago

          Lol. I can only afford running shoes. anyway

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      4 years ago

      I’ve never been a Shapiro or Atkins fan, however your pure hate for them is creating a pretty annoying bias on your part. It’s like you want them to fail because you don’t like the upper brass.

      Ultimately, the jays will always leave something to be desired while Rogers owns them, they aren’t baseball people anymore and view the jays as allow cost content for their media.

      That being said it’s a young fun team and despite the rotation being a weak link, it’s a year where pretty much every AL team is going to struggle with quality innings, so why not just pipe down and enjoy the ride

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      • jimmertee

        4 years ago

        Dusty, because it is a ride based on corporatespeak not quality baseball scouting decisions at the MLB level. I find it difficult enjoying the ride knowing that while these two are running the BlueJays show, they will never win bacau seats they will always be outclassed by elite executives.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          4 years ago

          You’re putting entirely too much stock on executives. Every GM wants to win and has play within their limits.

          There are elite executives on small market clubs that have financial limitations that won’t be able to keep up with spending on bigger market teams. Friedman left TB for a bigger market for a reason, don’t forget that .

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    • StudWinfield

      4 years ago

      Anyone else on that list of elite? Since they’ve won 5 out of the last 22 WS that means that 17 other front offices manage to win one and 22 others managed to get to a WS without either of the two. You don’t exactly need to be a member of the professional baseball community to throw those names out there.

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      • jimmertee

        4 years ago

        I recommended those two elite GM’s because at the time of the communication to Edward Rogers they were the only two elites available.

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    • bot

      4 years ago

      So are y’all from Toronto then ? And love living there right?? U know there’s not one pro that has Toronto on a top 5 destination list to play. No one wants to play there. That’s why they are linked to every free agent- they have to beg – in the tune of 10,000,000s to get people to come there. That’s why springer signed and Brantley used them.

      So they build a team through draft and trades while dishing out a few max contracts. They did a pretty good job w Farm and youth look solid and springer contract wasn’t too terrible.

      How does that not warrant a chance to see the whole thing through ? How u fire these guys when the team is on the up ?

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      • its_happening

        4 years ago

        Not one pro has Toronto on a top 5 destination list – agreed.

        No one wants to play there – disagreed. Springer dispelled that myth.

        You are supposed to build a team through the draft and trade formula, and this regime dropped the ball on the trade aspect many times. The draft has been pretty good. Development has also been decent. A step up from the AA/Ricciardi days. But this is the bare minimum when you are not contending.

        Jays needed a top SP and did not go get it. Not through free agency, not through trade. Acquired a shortstop to play 2B while their 2B moved to 3B along with his 2B arm. Signed an OF they did not necessarily need. Signed a closer with awful medicals. Three big free agent signings have yet to play a single game this year and at least one will not.

        Does it warrant a chance to see the whole thing through? Sure. 3 year extension, tops. If that’s somehow controversial so be it.

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        • bot

          4 years ago

          Well said.

          They could have easily acquired Suarez Gray and Castillo from reds all at once yet opted to keep their young talent instead. I just think they are a year or two out. Timing seems more appropriate then too.

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        • jimmertee

          4 years ago

          Guests, just this year the decisions are highly questionable. I said it all before =hand too so it is not hindsight. The Yates blunder not withstanding. None of this is rocket science.

          Jays needed elite front of rotation starter and a #3 or they have no shot at winning.
          Roark is done. Release him.
          Since they aren’t winning, trade Jansen and prospects for a starter
          Let McGuire or Adams and Kirk develop at MLB level.
          Bichette to 2nd base, enough already.
          Semien to SS., trade him at the deadline
          Biggio at 2nd. and 3rd
          Buy/Sign a 3B.depth or Espinal
          Trade Tellez or send him down, enough already
          Springer plays where he wants
          Randal fits in wherever else
          Hernandez 4th outfielder or a first/DH with Vlad
          Espinal is depth
          Release Panik
          Stripling can’t start, long relief
          Robbie Ray, trade him at the deadline
          Coddle Pearson for development because he is not ready for the bigs
          Zeuch is a AAAA player, relief or injury depth
          Matz, ride him until he blows up

          Everything Shapiro/Atkins does this year needs to be geared to have elite starting pitching and an elite closer next year.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          “while their 2B moved to 3B along with his 2B arm.”

          I watched part of the TO series against the NYY. Aside from some some all-around shoddy defense, I was shocked by some of the throws Biggio made. Is his arm really that bad, or did I just catch him on a bad day?

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        • jimmertee

          4 years ago

          Biggio has a very average arm for 3rd. He max efforts it almost every throw. If he is a little off balance or it is a tough play, who knows where the ball is going. He can learn it though. Except it might take a year. He hasn’t played a lot of 3rd in professional ball.

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        • charlesk

          4 years ago

          Always “in a few years, the future’s so bright” with Shatkins. Pure snake oil salesmen. Too bad so many fans and the team ownership fell for their confidence game.

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        • its_happening

          4 years ago

          No Joe, that was Biggio’s arm. It’s not “bad”, just not 3B material. He made some strange throws from the outfield in spring that had to make coaches wonder what’s up.

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      • jimmertee

        4 years ago

        Bot it only takes an elite GM 2-3 years to retool to win, not the 6 years that Shapiro and Atkins have taken and you’ll see it in the next 5 years too. Nada.

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    • Mario93

      4 years ago

      Agree jimmertee… the fool has already started to destroy the same Jays his scouting staff drafted for him. He lacks creativity.. extremely basic, and also gives Into pressure from media and fans. I honestly think I’d do a better job, but I doubt that would be hard for any of us to do.

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    • charlesk

      4 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more. Game eight and they’re already using “an opener and a guy”. In six seasons of work, they have 34 year old Ryu and… Matz. Roark and Stripling have been dreadful and should be DFA’d, but they won’t be. The bullpen is already overworked. They could’ve traded for Joe Musgrove (no-hitter), resigned Tijuan Walker (six innings to win the Mets home opener, hitting 97 mph on his four seamer), or traded for Raisel Iglesias for the equivalent of some prospects like Kevin Smith and T.J. Zeuch. They could’ve signed Alex Colomé. Instead they take a huge risk on Kirby Yates despite at least two medical reports that dissuaded other teams to pass, and the Braves to walk away from an offer. Injuries to Ray and Pearson have exposed the lies about “pitching depth”. Like the gratuitous five year/$52 million extension given to 4th OF Grichuk, this extend smacks of overkill. Is he here because he’s good at MLB roster management and builds Championship caliber teams, or is he here because he’s Shapiro’s boy? They’re good at running minor league systems and renovating old stadiums, but they’ve yet to build a WS Champion in nineteen years together in Cleveland and Toronto. Once Rogers wakes up to the ruse they’ll be gone, unless the MLB investigation into Mickey Calloway implicates them first.

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      • jimmertee

        4 years ago

        Amen Charles. Amen.

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  15. baseball lifer

    4 years ago

    Nice job on the extension overall. Atkins has done some good things for the Jays. But given the questionable pitching situation, I think the ownership should of given Ross a shorter extension. 3 years???

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      I do wonder if GM contracts have performance clauses and opt-out baked in.

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  16. PiratesFan1981

    4 years ago

    Drum rolls……. verdict is in! In a Maury voice, “Blue Jays, after further review, the results say, it’s too soon.”

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  17. brucenewton

    4 years ago

    Yanks would lose 100 a year if they had to get down to the Jays payroll. Cease operations with the Rays payroll.

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