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Nationals Trade Brad Hand To Blue Jays

By Steve Adams | July 29, 2021 at 11:21am CDT

The Blue Jays have added another arm to their bullpen mix, announcing the acquisition of veteran lefty Brad Hand from the Nationals in exchange for catcher Riley Adams. Hand, who signed a one-year, $10.5MM deal with the Nats this past offseason, will be a free agent at season’s end.

Hand, 31, has been one of the game’s most effective left-handed relievers in recent years, but his results in 2021 haven’t been as dominant as they were during his time with the Padres and Indians. There have been some signs that his stock had dipped in the eyes of those around the game; Cleveland put him on outright waivers at the end of the 2020 season, hoping a club would claim him and pick up his $10MM option — thus sparing the Indians the $1MM buyout. He went unclaimed and was ultimately bought out. Hand did eventually land a greater guarantee, signing at that aforementioned $10.5MM price point.

Brad Hand | Brad Mills-USA TODAY Sports

Some of the reservations regarding Hand when he was placed on waivers were simply due to financial uncertainty following the absence of fans in 2020, but there was also concern that the lefty’s fastball had dropped by two miles per hour from its peak level. He’s alleviated those concerns in 2021, tacking two miles back onto his heater and averaging 93.3 mph on the season. But Hand’s 23.3 percent strikeout rate is his lowest since moving from the rotation to the bullpen back in 2016, and his 9.9 percent walk rate is a career-high (as a reliever).

Those ungainly strikeout/walk trends notwithstanding, Hand has been a solid reliever for much of the season in Washington. He’s pitched to a 3.59 ERA, upped his ground-ball rate to its highest level since 2018 (39.5 percent) and generally limited hard contact and barreled balls quite well, per Statcast.

It’s been a tough go more recently, as Hand has served up eight runs in his past nine innings — three of which came on an Andrew McCutchen walk-off home run that proved to be something of a backbreaker for the reeling Nationals. Not long after dropping that pivotal game, rumblings about the Nationals perhaps engineering a rare (for them) summer sell-off began to pick up steam, and Hand’s departure (plus the persistent rumors on Max Scherzer and other prominent Nationals players) now make that speculation a reality.

For their half-season investment in Hand, the Nationals will acquire Adams, a 25-year-old backstop who’s already made a very brief MLB debut. That didn’t go particularly well, as he hit just .107/.167/.179, but he also received only 30 plate appearances with the Jays, so it’s impossible to glean much of anything from that limited sample. Adams has spent the remainder of the 2021 season with the Jays’ Triple-A affiliate, drawing plenty of walks and hitting for good power but struggling with strikeouts. In 143 plate appearances, he’s hitting .237/.371/.487 with an 11.2 percent walk rate but a lofty 32.2 percent strikeout rate.

Adams ranked 20th among Jays prospects heading into the season over at MLB.com. He’s already been bumped to No. 15 among Nationals prospects over at FanGraphs, where Eric Longenhagen calls him a bat-first backup option behind the plate. Adams, listed at 6’4″ and 246 pounds, is quite large for a catcher, but the Jays have been committed to developing him there. He’s appeared in just one professional game at first base, where he logged only three innings. If Adams proves he’s capable of sticking behind the dish and providing passable defense, he’ll greatly outperform many of the more modest value projections most scouting reports have placed on him due to concerns over his size and glovework.

Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post first reported Hand had been traded to the Jays (Twitter thread). USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reported Adams was going back to the Nats.

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143 Comments

  1. Brownsfan83

    4 years ago

    What’s the package

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    • Deleted User

      4 years ago

      Vlad and Bo plus some cash to makeup the difference.

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      • jz2016cubs

        4 years ago

        That’s reasonable.

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      • fox471 Dave

        4 years ago

        Makes sense.

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      • Ghost of past pirates

        4 years ago

        Steve NOBRASKA. .YOU POST EVERYTHING. YOU ARE KING TROLL. CONGRATS

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        • Darthyen

          4 years ago

          Dude I get why you may not like Steve Nebraska but that does not make him a troll…Yes this post was meant as a joke more so than just a troll looking for a “rise” out of people. The guy may not always be right but he does stand his ground on what he believes in and offers a good argument for his case usually backed with something (numbers/stats/old quotes/whatever) and he usually offers an insightful view point.

          Those are things trolls don’t do.

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        • Deleted User

          4 years ago

          Thanks, Dad!

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        • MikeyChop03

          4 years ago

          Guess he can get a hold being his last name is Hand

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        • Darthyen

          4 years ago

          You welcome son shine.

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        • josebatflip

          4 years ago

          Ha!

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        • C-Daddy

          4 years ago

          A-Rod’s favourite line.

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    • cwilcox43

      4 years ago

      Riley Adams

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    • davidk1979

      4 years ago

      No package

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  2. BrewersMVP08

    4 years ago

    Now he can blow saves in 2 countries

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  3. downsr30

    4 years ago

    Not a shutdown closer, but a quality pitcher that has closing experience. Good pickup.

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  4. Tiger22matt

    4 years ago

    Trades are coming in as fast as I can refresh the page.

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    • fox471 Dave

      4 years ago

      We must be looking at different websites.

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  5. davidk1979

    4 years ago

    He’s been mediocre the last month or so

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    • 16

      4 years ago

      Mediocre is kind – he’s been bad

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      The write-up and the perception it creates is incorrect……

      The last year and even a bit of the previous year that Hand was with the Indians he was far from an effective closer. Numbers lie when they’re not put into perspective. Hand was inconsistent in his job. He could not be counted on. That hurt both the rest of the bullpen and the managers strategy past the 5th inning.

      I couldn’t understand why the Nationals and the national baseball media that claim to follow situations were so enamored with him being an answer to the Nats closing woes……any more then the Blue Jays should be today. Reputation doesn’t play on the field. This is not the Brad Hand of 3-4 years ago. Odds are he’ll have some good outings with most not so good.

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      • Deleted User

        4 years ago

        During his time with the Indians he had a 2.78 era with 58 saves and only blew 7. That’s a damn good ratio. Not to mention his 34.8% k rate and only 7.9% BB rate. In 2020 alone he didn’t blow a single save. He was really “inconsistent in his job,” wasn’t he? How exactly did he “hurt both the rest of the bullpen and the managers strategy past the 5th inning”? Did he just start punching players in bullpen, stealing the manager’s scouting reports or something else because his on field production speaks for itself.

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        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          You did it again!

          LOL

          You looked at overall statistics and completely ignored what I wrote.

          You’re now past a reading comprehension problem. You have no clue how to interpret statistics.

          Using your analysis method, washed up former high production players are still producing so long as we factor in their good statistics.

          If you actually followed and understood baseball, you’d have known that the Indians – who always plan ahead – accepted young Clase as the major piece in the Kluber trade and were bringing Karinchak along because they knew that Hand was deteriorating at an accelerated rate and they needed to develop the back end of a bullpen as they don’t have the cash to buy a name closer. And developing young guys into closers takes a few years.

          All teams use statistics (and many fans as well). Those that can interpret them correctly are the winners.

          Heavens ankle biter, you’re a lightweight.

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        • vtadave

          4 years ago

          How was Hand inconsistent in 2020?

          2.05 ERA / 1.37 FIP
          0.77 WHIP
          no blown saves
          11.9 K/9
          1.6 BB/9
          no HR allowed

          May and July this year though – ugly.

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        • Deleted User

          4 years ago

          Don’t worry, vtadave. Samuel has ruled out using numbers (specifically the numbers that prove him wrong) to assess players leaving only his personal feelings and speculation. He will simply ignore all of this because it makes him feel smarter.

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        • DoItDoug

          4 years ago

          Tell is how you really feel.

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      • smuzqwpdmx

        4 years ago

        The Blue Jays don’t need him to be a closer, Romano has that covered. Hand just has to be better than Jacob Barnes was, which isn’t a high bar. Can’t fault the deal since the Jays didn’t give up a real prospect and Hand doesn’t affect next year’s budget.

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  6. bronxbombers

    4 years ago

    Yankees fans rejoice. We love brad hand

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    • coupofthecentury

      4 years ago

      And all teams love Chapman post sticky fingers.

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      • Ancient Pistol

        4 years ago

        Chapman has been much better as of late.

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      • LordD99

        4 years ago

        You mean the Chapman who has a 1.13 ERA and 15 Ks in 8 innings over his last eight appearances post the All-Game? The Chapman throwing 103 mph again and who blew away “Boomstick” Cruz two straight nights?

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  7. Joe It All

    4 years ago

    Obligatory Bird in the Hand comment

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      4 years ago

      Nice post, I have to hand it to you.

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      • Joe It All

        4 years ago

        This is one of the only sites where Dad Jokes can get over

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    • RunDMC

      4 years ago

      Obligatory Seinfeld reference:

      “I’ve got hand.”

      “And you’re gonna need it.”

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      • Joe It All

        4 years ago

        George Costanza for the win

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        • 16

          4 years ago

          This is such a nice refrain from the vitriol in yesterdays posts – keep the dad jokes coming.

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    • DarkSide830

      4 years ago

      where’s Greg?

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    • tstats

      4 years ago

      Gotta Hand it to Atkins

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    • neo

      4 years ago

      did the Jays trade one or two birds out of their bush for him?

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  8. bucsfan0004

    4 years ago

    Blue Jays fans can’t be happy about this acquisition. Hand has been awful of late

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    • sfes

      4 years ago

      Relief pitching is so volatile though, he could turn it around just as quick

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      • Taejonguy

        4 years ago

        they likely feel Walker can make him better

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      • Aoe3

        4 years ago

        Pete Walker can fix him and maybe we can resign him for 2022. He was good until recently.. Now let’s finish the deadline with pitcher Ian Kennedy.

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        • DoItDoug

          4 years ago

          Kennedy would be a great addition to the bullpen. Make magic happen Atkins.

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    • bhd360

      4 years ago

      Why wouldn’t we be? Our bullpen has been atrocious for the majority of the season & all we gave up was a guy who isn’t even going to be a backup C for us as he’s blocked by Kirk and soon Moreno. Awesome deal.

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    • BuJoBi

      4 years ago

      I’m happy about the deal, we need depth in the pen, it’s been terrible for the last 2 months

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      • Samuel

        4 years ago

        You’ll need far more than Hand.

        I thought Richard Rodriquez was going there. He would have been an answer to a real closer. Then the Sticky Stuff Police manned their stations, and poof – Rodriquez turned back into a frog.

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    • LordD99

      4 years ago

      I mean, they didn’t really give up anything.

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  9. sfes

    4 years ago

    To think ANY team could have had him for nothing and all passed… WTF

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    • Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies

      4 years ago

      I don’t see who he’s being traded for……Nothing?

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      • Kapler's Coconut Oil

        4 years ago

        I think they’re referring to when he was non-tendered in the offseason

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      • sfes

        4 years ago

        Yeah, as Nathaniel said

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        • Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies

          4 years ago

          Gotcha. You were right either way….it’s nothing.

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    • Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

      4 years ago

      I know they didn’t exactly confirm it, but I think there’s a good chance the Mets would have if they weren’t in the middle of being sold. With hindsight I’m happy they didn’t end up getting him though, May and Loup have been great for essentially the same price and I’m not sure they would have made the same moves if they’d claimed Hand.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      Maybe explain to me why they shouldn’t have passed? He’s been fairly mediocre this year for $10.5M.

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  10. bamck

    4 years ago

    Will he close or set up? Romano has definitely been better than Hand of late but Hand has a lot more experience

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    • Deleted User

      4 years ago

      I’d guess they’ll run a bit of a committee based on matchups until one guy proves they’re the guy.

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      • smuzqwpdmx

        4 years ago

        50 IP with a 1.98 ERA while closing for the Blue Jays in ’20 and ’21 isn’t proof? Then what is?

        The only reason Romano doesn’t have tons of saves is that the Blue Jays never have save opportunities (they either win by 10 runs or blow the lead before the 9th).

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  11. angt222

    4 years ago

    Looks like Blue Jays found their closer.

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  12. driftcat28 2

    4 years ago

    Oh shoot? Will he close in TOR?

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    • neo

      4 years ago

      if they can acquire more bullpen arms to get a lead safely to the 9th, maybe.

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  13. ccahoe02

    4 years ago

    I don’t trust any pitcher that has gotten worse since they cracked down on the sticky stuff

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    • Vizionaire

      4 years ago

      basically 100% of pitchers.

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  14. Ancient Pistol

    4 years ago

    I guess the Nationals fire sale is about to start.

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  15. Mario93

    4 years ago

    Could’ve gotten him for free in the offseason….. Ridiculous.. It seems Shapiro/Atkins know how to build a farm, have no idea what to do afterwards.

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    • bamck

      4 years ago

      They’re not giving up that much. If not for injuries to dolis and merryweather they probably wouldn’t even need hand.

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      • Mario93

        4 years ago

        Still not an excuse. We didn’t have a good enough rotation to start the season, they should’ve added real pitchers to the pen to begin with in the offseason. Especially when they come free. They love their 1 year deals, Hand should’ve been in our bullpen already.

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        • bamck

          4 years ago

          I don’t know that hand is really going to move the needle. He’s been fairly bad.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          Funny that every other GM in baseball passed up Hand as well last fall.

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        • its_happening

          4 years ago

          Another bad take from Markkko what a surprise! Jays needed a closer/back end reliever and Hand was available. Had they picked him up they don’t sign Yates (presumably), Adams would still be in the organization and the Jays might have 2-3 more wins, generously.

          Thank you for your poor excuse. Let’s stick with one GM for one team rather than focus on the 28 teams that didn’t need him for either monetary reasons or they had a closer. Jays had neither issue.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          Ah Wild Bill rides again and still has 0 reading comprehension. This coming from the guy who wanted Bauer oh so badly and said Ray and Semien were bad signings. You have 0 baseball cred sonny boy.

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        • KamKid

          4 years ago

          Wait, how would the Jays have 2-3 more wins? Are you saying Hand would have been worth 2-3 more wins? Look at the Win Probability stats. Hand has not advanced his team’s chances of winning at the rate you suggest. In fact he’s been worse than all of the Jays relievers with a WPA of -1.08. That doesn’t change the fact that as you say in the offseason, he might have been a good option. There were some signs of declining performance at that point but still good production. But to say he would have done so much better in a Jays uniform than he did in a Nationals uniform that he would have given the Jays 2 or 3 more wins seems a bit of a stretch.

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        • Mario93

          4 years ago

          Nobody knew what Trevor Bauer would be involved in…. He would’ve been a much better signing aside the problems, over Springer. So that’s unfair.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          Thing is people should have known. His weekend of cyber stalking a coed a few years back , would be a warning sign to many. I said this last Spring that the guy was trouble waiting to happen and if I can see it as a Jays fan I am sure there were Front Offices that saw it as well. ( those who cared to look )

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    • holecamels35

      4 years ago

      It’s stupid to think that they can’t upgrade a position now because they didn’t fully address it in the offseason. Will they really miss a random prospect?

      Also his asking price wasn’t “free” or he would have stayed in Cleveland.

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      • Mario93

        4 years ago

        It’s not stupid, considering they’re a few months late. Hand could’ve gotten us a few more wins, which would have us in a better position today..

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    • 16

      4 years ago

      $10.5M is not for free and not sure how willing the Jays would’ve been to pay that for a so/so backend reliever.

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      • Mario93

        4 years ago

        It is free considering it’s a 1 year deal, he’s off the payroll at the end of the year. They pay guys like Roark, Chatwood, gave a CF 25 million per year to be a cheerleader for most of the season … but you couldn’t claim Hand off waivers ? Every 1 year deal is free in my book. Especially when your rotation coming into the season was already lacking… stack up on the pen, the way the Royals did when they won the World Series. You add enough talented arms, good things happen imo. Shorten the game if your rotation isn’t good enough. They’re a few months late with Hand. Period.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          Alot of crystal ball and the benefit of hindsight in your posts on Hand plus you and one other seem to not comprehend the situation last fall.

          Every GM passed on Hand when he was on waivers. Coming out of a shortened season, a dramatic drop in revenue and uncertainty as to the length of this coming season meant No GM was going to commit Ten Million to Hand. Budgets for this year had not been set, owners had no idea the length of this Season, if there would be gate revenue etc. Seriously people need to actually think .

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        • Mario93

          4 years ago

          Okay, so let’s ignore the fact that they were needing pitching. Yet had enough “revenue” to give a cheerleader 25 mill a season for the next 6 years.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          Sighs- That was well after the time passed that teams had to tender contracts. That is what we were talking about – Hand not being claimed on Waivers.

          As you seem to like to crystal ball approach Hand has not produced this year to warrant 10.5 million.

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        • Mario93

          4 years ago

          Nothing to do with a crystal ball, it’s about managing your budget better. Also, going into the offseason Jays knew they’d have money to spend.. Atkins said himself.

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        • MarkoRock68

          4 years ago

          He didnt say how much and he said in an interview that this years budget got finalized in December . Well AFTER Hand passed through waivers.

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        • Mario93

          4 years ago

          Okay, fair enough.

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  16. Cabby24

    4 years ago

    C Riley Adams going to the Nationals.

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    • jaysfan1978

      4 years ago

      What a MASSIVE overpay by the Jays.

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      • Cabby24

        4 years ago

        Jays dealt from a position of strength. I’m fine with giving up Adams for Hand. If Hand can get back on track, I like this even more.

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      • C-Daddy

        4 years ago

        The Jays have 4 or 5 better catchers – Adams was very expendable.

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      • Ryan_W

        4 years ago

        Did you see Adams when he was called up to MLB he looked so terrible. Yes he’s young and can develop but he looked so over matched that I highly doubt he ever hits at even a decent level, he’s a guaranteed out every time he comes to the plate.

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        • Ted

          4 years ago

          He’s also a bat-first catcher. It’s not like he has the defensive skills to mitigate and that minor league strike out rate is a really bad sign.

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        • KamKid

          4 years ago

          Longenhagen calls him a bat first catcher but I don’t think that’s accurate. I think his size and power make some underappreciate how athletic he is. He is also by all accounts smart and really advanced at the game planning side of things. Pipeline has called him a defensive backup. I liked him behind the plate this year. He’ll strike out a lot, but his plate approach isn’t awful. He has had high walk rates and OBP throughout the minors. At worst, the Nationals get a viable depth option at AAA for a couple of seasons before needing to decide if he’s good enough as a backup catcher or maybe even more.

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      • smuzqwpdmx

        4 years ago

        Adams would’ve probably been through waivers in the fall anyway to clear roster space. We’re talking about a 25 year old hitting .239 in AAA with holes in his swing you can drive a tank through. Minor league pitchers walked him out of fear of his power, but that’s not a skill that translates in the majors where they won’t, as he’s actually quite tall with a large strike zone.

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  17. jaysfan1978

    4 years ago

    My first thought was that Brad Hand was a good get, then I looked at his numbers for this year and thought that Axford would probably be better at this point.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Yeah. Hand has been mediocre at best.

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    • Raps902420

      4 years ago

      Change of scenery might help, and hes still better than a lot of the guys the Jay’s have been using this year

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        4 years ago

        Definitely. Jays are a better team. Could give him a boost.

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  18. MarkoRock68

    4 years ago

    Being reported that Riley Adams is going the other way. Needed to clear a catcher off the 40 man. Moreno for sure up to AAA if he makes it back from injury. before the season ends.

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  19. analyzer87

    4 years ago

    Jays get Hand for nothing basically. Adams would have been dfa’d to make room for moreno. So they are hoping Hand can rebound coming to a new team.

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    • KamKid

      4 years ago

      Moreno is already on the roster, but yeah, there wasn’t a clear path for Adams to get any meaningful opportunity and they had too many catchers on the 40.

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      • MarkoRock68

        4 years ago

        That is what I meant 5 catchers is too many, especially with a bunch of guys we need to add to the 40 in the fall. 2 months of Hand is better then cash considerations in the fall.

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    • EasternLeagueVeteran

      4 years ago

      He can be the complimentary lefty in the pen to Jordan Romano who remains the closer. A seventh or eighth inning guy when a bunch of lefties are coming up that inning.

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  20. RunDMC

    4 years ago

    So WSH’s now closer is Daniel Hudson (Covid list) – Tanner Rainey until he returns?

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    • LordD99

      4 years ago

      With a Scherzer trade pending and Strasburg out for the year, they should aim to lose as many games as possible to improve their draft position. Make the worst reliever a closer the next two months! I say this only half jokingly.

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    • 16

      4 years ago

      Hudson would be the one to get IMO – he throws heat and has looked good post Stickiness while Hand looks well, very appetizing for opposing teams.

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  21. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    Mostly a cash move, with the Nats picking up the proverbial lottery ticket. I know that RPs are eclectic, but Hand’s been taking a pretty good beating lately.

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  22. Raps902420

    4 years ago

    There’s a few jokes I can think of about hand playin with the bj’s, but cant post here lol

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  23. senior52

    4 years ago

    Hand has to be better than Dolis.

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  24. BuJoBi

    4 years ago

    Good deal, glad we added to the pen without giving up much. We have a lot of depth at C. With Mayza and Borucki being our best lefty options it’s a upgrade for sure.

    I do hope this isn’t our only move, we need a lot more help in the pen, a 3b, and another LH bat. Let’s not sell the farm this season though since it will be difficult to make the playoffs with where we stand.

    I like Ryan Mcmahon if he were available, bats left and can play a decent 3b.

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  25. worthington

    4 years ago

    Jays a big flop despite V Jr and spending obscene amounts of money.

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    • jaymac

      4 years ago

      Obscene? They’re 12th in the league in payroll…that’s a whopping 12% above the league average and just a tick ahead of those notoriously free-spending Giants…

      As a Jays fan, I do have to kinda agree with the “flop” part, though.

      The real irony is that, between what they paid Yates for zero innings and what they’re paying Hand for the rest of the year, it pretty much works out to what they would have paid if they’d just claimed Hand from Cleveland in the first place last winter…

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    • Ted

      4 years ago

      Who has Toronto spent any money on? Nobody, and they’re a very rich team.

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  26. charlesk

    4 years ago

    Add the cost of Kirby Yates ($5.5 million) to whatever they’ll owe Hand. They could’ve just signed him last offseason instead of taking the risk on Yates, who had multiple bad medical reports!

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  27. Will32

    4 years ago

    Now the Washington needs to trade Hudson to the Giants!

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    • worthington

      4 years ago

      Would be a good move along with a SP. Some cracks showing in the rotation.

      Reply
  28. Phantom X

    4 years ago

    Phillies phans sitting here like: ……

    Maybe they’re doing the silent treatment on purpose, but I’m having a hard time believing it.

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  29. hd-electraglide

    4 years ago

    Is Hand’s recent lack effectiveness something mechanical or injury?

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  30. garth16iorg

    4 years ago

    Lol. Shatkins is clueless. Should’ve unloaded overrated sausage Kirk and kept Adams.

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    • Ryan_W

      4 years ago

      Hell no Adams can’t hit at all at the mlb level

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      • Mario93

        4 years ago

        Agree Ryan. He can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. Kirk has way more upside. I doubt Adams will ever hit at the big leagues. Career backup if that.

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  31. bluejays92

    4 years ago

    I like it. Best of luck to Adams, but I’m very comfortable with our catching depth and I’m not really sold on him being more than a solid backup catcher in the future. Hand could catch fire and he has a solid track record.

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  32. dman07

    4 years ago

    I don’t know if Hand closes for the Jays. What’s going on with Merryweather?

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  33. Shrutefarm

    4 years ago

    Blue Jays may have got him at just the right time. His pattern has been: good for a long spell, has a bad 10 days, then goes on another good run for a while. He has just had a bad 10 days, so he is due for another strong 6 weeks or so.

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  34. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    Going from a team that should have stayed in Canada to a team that did

    Reply
    • Ted

      4 years ago

      If I compare the history, fanbases, and facilities of the Expos to that of the Nats I’m hard pressed to agree they should have stayed in Canada. It’s been one of the most successful relocations ever.

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        That doesn’t mean we want them here.

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    • Le Grande Orangerie

      4 years ago

      LOL! Yeah, the Expos were a real success in Canada, with their 3,000 fans a night. Pathetic baseball market.

      I can imagine the player reaction if someone told the Nat players they had to go to Canada and play in an empty condemned building and then lose their paychecks to Canadian taxes. LOL!

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  35. Altuves Buzzer

    4 years ago

    It’s a start, and a lefty with experience for a catcher that looked lost at the plate (small sample size) in his shot….all day every day

    Need 3 more dominoes

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  36. Grade_1_teacher

    4 years ago

    Excellent trade for the Jays! Adams is a small price to pay.

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  37. Devlsh

    4 years ago

    Thumbs up on the Hand acquisition!

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  38. jimmertee

    4 years ago

    Very good pickup. and from the Expos! As someone said above it is a bit of an overpay trading Riley but the Jays got it done.

    Two more dominoes are now needed. A starter upgrade to Matz/Kay/Stripling and another reliever. Unfortunately another Expos trade is likely out of the question. I would love to have Scherzer and Hudson back too.

    I keep hearing Brad Keller from KC. Yikes another reclamation project and not really an upgrade.

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  39. swingingforthefences

    4 years ago

    I feel like Scherzer is the best move for the jays. Boras says he’d want an extension to come with a deal, the jays have the money and 3 year deal matches their window. As opposed to Berrios who has a year, but is on record saying he definitely wants to go into free agency. Plus if the jays can make the wild card this year, you’ve got the best chance possible with Scherzer on the bump. Either way it’s a lot of prospects going somewhere for some starting pitching.

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  40. bigguccisosa300

    4 years ago

    Oof I think that’s a little steep for a rental…

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    • jimmertee

      4 years ago

      Very steep. Overpay. Number one home run power prospect the Jays have and he is a catcher too. And he is slowly learning how to hit for average.

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  41. Dustyslambchops23

    4 years ago

    Will be nice to have him in a 7th inning role with Romano still closing and hopefully Merryweather coming back eventually.

    adams isn’t nothing but he was probably 5th on the depth chart for catching so made sense to deal from that pool

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    • bigguccisosa300

      4 years ago

      I have long been sketchy about Romano as the closer. He’d fit way better as a setup guy for a couple years at least. He’s only in that role because Yates got hurt (remember him?). If Merryweather didn’t get hurt I think that’s his spot today, and with Hand I think you get him closing games right away. Proven commodity.

      I like Adams more than most it seems and they did have a bit of a logjam at catcher. Dunno how good any of them really are gonna be though lol.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        4 years ago

        I mean Moreno looks as good as a prospect can look.

        I think it’s hard to look at Romano’s performance this year and not say he’s not a closer, however his ability to miss bats would be ideal in runners on and game on the line type of situations.

        If Merryweather and Pearson come back to the pen you’re looking at a really strong BP but they need to bolster the rotation

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  42. YourDreamGM

    4 years ago

    Good for both teams. Jays traded something they had no use for so didn’t cost them much. Nationals received at worst a 3rd catcher with upside as backup. Could be more, always a chance. Need to remember Hand is being paid as a closer but it performing as a setup or even 7th inning guy.

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  43. Jeff Ringer

    4 years ago

    OMG … this is the same guy they could have picked up for nothing in the off-season.

    Cleveland cut him rather than pay his 10 million. That’s why they are paying him 1 million.

    So the Jays, like the other 28 teams, passed. I said back then it was a bad move to not pick him up. Now the Jays did get him and lost the potential of Adams.

    On a positive note they have a closer again.

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    • jimmertee

      4 years ago

      Yes Jeff, you and many others called the same thing. Losing Adams is huge. Way overpay for Hand. Hand is great with sticky fingers, not as good without.

      But they got a piece.

      Now they need to upgrade the starting pitching and add another bullpen piece.

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      • bigguccisosa300

        4 years ago

        JIMMER! I agree with your pessimistic a$$ for once man haha

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      4 years ago

      Hindsight is 20/20.

      Not many people suspected the bullpen to me this much of an issue, but remove Phelps, Merryweather and Yates and that’s exactly what we got, even guys like Cole would have made things better.

      So trading him now for a guy who was probably not going to be able to stay on the 40man much longer isn’t the end of the world. Plus they saved 5 million or so.

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  44. Deleted Userrr

    4 years ago

    Shouldda claimed him on outright waivers when they had the chance

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  45. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    Jim PALMer

    Rollie FINGERS

    Brad HAND

    Who will continue this theme?

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