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Reds Acquire Luis Cessa, Justin Wilson From Yankees

By Anthony Franco | July 27, 2021 at 11:40pm CDT

In a surprise transaction, the Yankees announced they’ve traded relievers Luis Cessa and Justin Wilson to the Reds in exchange for a player to be named later. Cincinnati designated Ashton Goudeau and Edgar García for assignment to open 40-man roster space.

The appeal for the Reds is in the addition of Cessa, who was a dependable bullpen arm throughout much of his time in the Bronx. The right-hander is capable of working multiple innings and has been an effective pitcher over the past few years. Since the start of the 2019 campaign, Cessa has tossed 141 innings of 3.64 ERA/4.34 FIP ball. He’s been even more effective this season, working to a career-best 2.82 ERA over 38 1/3 frames.

Cessa doesn’t have the bat-missing stuff of most relievers. His 19.3% strikeout rate is well below the 24.5% league average for bullpen arms, and his swinging strike rate is similarly underwhelming. That’s basically been true throughout Cessa’s entire big league tenure, though, and he’s found a fair amount of success by throwing strikes and avoiding especially damaging contact. The 29-year-old is inducing ground balls at a massive 56.8% clip this year, and Statcast shows he’s been among the top twenty percent of pitchers in suppressing opponents’ average exit velocity, hard contact and barrels.

While the Reds don’t look particularly likely to make the playoffs in 2021, the acquisition of Cessa gives Cincinnati a potential multi-year piece for a bullpen that has been one of the league’s worst this year. The 29-year-old is earning just $1.05MM this season (less than $400K of which remains to be paid), and he’s controllable through 2023 via arbitration. With the Reds no doubt hoping to contend in 2022 (and not yet giving up hope of a late push this season), picking up an affordable, long-term bullpen piece holds obvious appeal.

Wilson has a long track record of productivity, but he’s in the middle of a disappointing campaign. The southpaw put up an ERA below 4.00 each season from 2017-20, but he’s only managed a 7.50 mark through 18 frames so far this year. Wilson’s velocity has gone backwards, and his typically lofty strikeout rate has plummeted to 18.1%. Given their own bullpen struggles, Cincinnati figures to give him an opportunity to right the ship, but it’s likely the Reds agreed to take on Wilson’s salary to incentivize the Yankees to part with Cessa.

New York signed Wilson over the winter to a somewhat complex contract. The southpaw is making $2.85MM this year (about $1MM of which remains). He has a $2.3MM player option for next season. If he declines, Cincinnati would hold a $7.15MM club option ($1.15MM buyout) on his services. Given Wilson’s struggles this year, it seems he’d be trending toward exercising his player option — but doing so would entitle the Reds to a 2023 club option worth just $500K north of that year’s league minimum salary.

Goudeau bounced around waivers throughout last offseason. He now seems likely to wind up back on the wire after making five MLB appearances for the Reds this year. He’s tossed 31 innings across eight appearances (five starts) with Triple-A Louisville, working to a 4.65 ERA with a below-average 16.1% strikeout rate. García has also spent most of the campaign with the Bats. He’s been quite good in Triple-A but hit hard over his five big league outings.

From the Yankees perspective, the deal frees some payroll space and clears a pair of spots on the 40-man roster. In addition to getting themselves off the hook for Wilson’s 2022 player option, New York shaves around $1.4MM off their luxury tax ledger in 2021. With the Yankees just a few million dollars shy of the $210MM threshold, the extra breathing room could enable the front office to pursue upgrades before Friday’s trade deadline. Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic (Twitter link) suggests New York could look around the league for bullpen and/or shortstop additions, with a particular focus on left-handed bats.

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  1. dans

    4 years ago

    very strange. Either the PTBNL is a Reds draft choice from this years draft (which will be announced at the end of the season) or the Yanks are simply clearing space because bigger moves are on the horizon

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    • TinkerAmbast

      4 years ago

      Draft picks can no longer be the PTBNL in the season they were drafted. Been that way for quite a few years now.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        4 years ago

        Seems to me the team is preparing for other moves which may or may not happen. The “Story” could simply be the Yanks will give Trevor a “looksy” as an audition without going over the tax amount. Expect more of the same to the extent necessary as there is no reason NOT to reset this year. That has to be the #1 remaining NYY priority. To see how Story will hopefully fit in in NY is a bonusm

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Well, the CBT is going to change, and they are aware of that; I can see your point, but with 21-22 negotiations on the horizon, I’d expect they prioritize winning over the current CBT threshold, especially given our current standing in the ALE.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 years ago

          It should be a balancing act but given the present record and upcoming contract decisions with the immovable parts they have, they need to make sure the tax threshold regardless of where it may be next year resets now. it sets up future possibilities.

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        • luckyh

          4 years ago

          If it’s to free up cash as writers are saying, it’s not much. I liked Cessa. More moves I think they’ll regret.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Dewey, I agree with your reasoning as it’s logical. I’m not sure where they’re going from here but if this is in fact for salary room, it doesn’t seem like the juice is worth the squeeze. Cessa has been really consistent, and Wilson is normally a dependable LHRP. They’re not as set in the bully as they once were… It will be interesting to see where they go.

          If it’s a reset and we are owning our losing season? Okay, but then dump salaries and get some decent prospects back, ala 2016. I guess this is why I’m not a GM and he is…..

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 years ago

          YC, every little bit of savings helps. The odds aren’t good for the Yankees to steal the trophy like Boston did in 13. Resetting will allow them to spend as wildly as they want in the off season. if the math works, get Story acclimated now and then see if you’d rather bid on Seager like I would.

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      • bigguccisosa300

        4 years ago

        Not since the Trea Turner deal I believe

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      • bradthebluefish

        4 years ago

        Then what/who can be a PTBAL?

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    • Herc33

      4 years ago

      I think they changed that rule after the Trea Turner debacle so you can’t do a PTBNL for a drafted player like that anymore

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      • Samer

        4 years ago

        Just call it for what it is: “Trea Turner” rule

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        • Oxford Karma

          4 years ago

          Didn’t Swanson get traded right away too?

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        • sidewinder11

          4 years ago

          The rule used to state that a drafted player couldn’t be traded for one year after signing. Trea Turner was included as a PTBNL in the Wil Myers deal in the offseason before the one year mark so he had to stay with San Diego until midseason, but everyone knew he was in the deal (awkward). They immediately changed the rule so that a drafted player could be traded in the offseason following his signing. Swanson was the first player to be traded under that new rule.

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    • pasha2k

      4 years ago

      Clearing space

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        For a small move, as they are staying under the cap.

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  2. Cap & Crunch

    4 years ago

    Precursor to another Yankee deal Id guess. This clears some cash

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    • angt222

      4 years ago

      Yeah probably had to move Cessa so CIN would take Wilson and his salary.

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      • MurderersRow27

        4 years ago

        I’m thinking the same thing. Clearing out both of their remaining $ gives them probably about $1m more left of wiggle room… but this move HAS to be a precursor move to something bigger.

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    • LATrolleyDodger

      4 years ago

      Agreed! Something else is brewing for NYY

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    • MurderersRow27

      4 years ago

      Thinking the same thing. Who’s it gonna be for though? Hmmmmm

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      • Noel1982

        4 years ago

        I think since nats are sellers they. Are gonna call the nats up and offer Miguel andujar and Clint Frazier for Juan soto and cash

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        • Not a clever name

          4 years ago

          Yeah I think your on to something maybe a 5 player 3 team trade, yanks get scherzer Soto and cash from the nats, and Kimbrel and Bryant from the Cubs. Nats send a got to Chicago and get Frazier and andujar from the yanks. And yankee fans then proceed to complain they overpaid.

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        • Not a clever name

          4 years ago

          Goat.^

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        • Noel1982

          4 years ago

          Well they did clear to roster spots and trading away Frazier and andujar opens up four roster spots for Soto , mad max, Kimbrell and Bryant and they even get some cash so Hal doesn’t whine about the tax ! Mathematically connecting the dots

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        • positively_broad_st

          4 years ago

          Soto is not going anywhere, especially not for a couple of 4A players. Come on, Yankees fans, deal with reality…

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          Wow, you really bought all of that?

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        • Not a clever name

          4 years ago

          The worst part is the rays will then trade Lowe to Chicago for the goat, lowe will bat .140 with no power and get dfa’d in a season and the Goat will turn out to be a real innings eater, win 5 consecutive CY’s and well, be the GOAT.

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        • Not a clever name

          4 years ago

          It was sarcasm based on the fact that yanks fans claim Frazier and andujar are a fair trade for every trade target.

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        • Darryl Rose

          4 years ago

          Hahahaha. Yeah that would be nice.

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        • Darryl Rose

          4 years ago

          Hahahaha

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Yet, ironically, it’s always the Yankee critics naming those two as the trade targets on every board, not Yankee fans. Another purchased delusion by the jealous have-nots.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 years ago

          Could have been two years ago. Teams always overestimate some and undervalues others. The best GMs and front offices evaluate talent better than others.

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        • costergaard2

          4 years ago

          I’m just sad that you didn’t find a way for the Yankees to get back Refsnyder from the Twins in your multi team deal = (

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        • Gasu1

          4 years ago

          “It was sarcasm based on the fact that yanks fans claim Frazier and andujar are a fair trade for every trade target.” Is it still 2019 where you are? Just a hint, stock up on canned goods as there will be a pandemic next year.

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        • Darryl Rose

          4 years ago

          I’m a yankee fan and you aren’t wrong. Lol. You may have forgotten how many times we bundled Cessa, Wade, Andujar and Frazier for Mike Trout or some other superstar. Mind you u I see the same nonsense from other homers as well on other sites. Brewer fans for example expected 4 studs for home run Hader. Fans cannot be objective about their own and fail to realize you have to give to get.
          Recently on a Toronto site a fan mentioned they may have 8 hall of fame prospects. Yeah … That could happen. Lol

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        • GGERM

          4 years ago

          HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      Cessa’s $1.05M and Wilson’s $2.85M so $2.9M total provided the Reds are picking up Wilson’s ’22 buyout option.

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      • mrkinsm

        4 years ago

        60% of salary due by NYY.

        Wilson is only owed 1.15M$ this year, his team option buyout is another 1.15M$ – but he could pick up his player option still.

        Cessa is only owed .4M$ this year.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          Well aware of that. CBT is calculated at the end of year for each player on the 40-man roster.

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        • luckyh

          4 years ago

          Agreed. Seems like a poor deal on the Yanks side. Cessa is solid and controllable, Wilson normally dependable. They haven’t learned.

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    • Samer

      4 years ago

      Lol this comment with your name is so good.

      You’re right! xd, Thank you.

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    • 3Rivers

      4 years ago

      It clears cash indeed, but what about a*s? Does it clear any a*s for the overrated talent and the over bloated payroll every year yankees?

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  3. mgomrjsurf

    4 years ago

    Reds are going for it and Yankees clearing salary cap space to get under Tax.

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      4 years ago

      Yanks are already under the tax. They are clearing space for a larger addition, most likely Trevor Story or Starling Marte if I had to guess. It would be smart of them to deal Britton too even if they have to eat half his contract. That way, they can Story or Marte and another pitcher or two and stay below the CBT threshold if they swim in the shallow end of the pitching pool.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        4 years ago

        Losing Cessa and Britton are huge losses to the pen which I don’t think the recently acquired Clay Holmes can fill in for. Story can fit under the CBT barely. The Yankees should have both Kluber and Severino back towards the end of August. I think the rotation can hold it down for now with Taillon pitching well during his last four starts. Their offense needs to pick it up to make any real difference.

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      • Jubilee3333

        4 years ago

        The Yankees are starving for relief help. Trading these two away adds much to curiosity. Why would the Yankees trade Britton too?

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          To duck under the CBT while trading for a perceived team upgrade.

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  4. yankees500

    4 years ago

    Well. I guess this means we’re adding salary and thus making a bigger move in the next few days. *eyeroll

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  5. Joe It All

    4 years ago

    I like it. The Reds bullpen is atrocious so it makes me happy to know they’re at least trying to fix it. I could care less who the PTBNL is because the bullpen needs help now not in the future.

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  6. citizen

    4 years ago

    Reds not going for it by aquiring Wilson

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    • Joe It All

      4 years ago

      Cessa was the real get and as was said above, they take on Wilson’s contract to get Cessa.

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      • mrkinsm

        4 years ago

        No. They trade a PTBNL to get Cessa. Wilson is sunk cost at this point. If he’s good from here on out the Yankees probably don’t care.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          Did you not say the same thing as Joe It All? That PTBNL will be a lot sooner than later.

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    • sportsfreak52

      4 years ago

      It’s a start!
      Different pitching coaches, different league, Wilson as part of another package deal….nobody knows squat this time of year! That’s why it’s called RUMORS .

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      • EasternLeagueVeteran

        4 years ago

        Salary dump to Reds for Wilson for Yankees; Change of Scenery ( and pitching coaches) move for Reds who would hope he has something left in the tank, and maybe we can unlock that.

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  7. angt222

    4 years ago

    Good opp for Cessa to get himself a larger role out of the pen. Always thought he was a solid arm.

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    • Joe It All

      4 years ago

      Cessa can immediately move into the closer role in Cincinnati. Closer by committee has been a revolving door of consistent failure this year.

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    • ThisIsTheYear

      4 years ago

      @angt222

      You were always wrong!

      No jk jk- Cessa wasn’t given much of an opportunity until recently, where he was able to prove himself in bigger situations thab mop up work or spot starting. I agree it seems like a bigger deal is ahead, but what deal could they make that wouldn’t be too little too late, except MAYBE Mad Max…. Even if they make the one game playoff and win, this is not a playoff team whatsoever. Isn’t it ironic that, finally the starting pitching comes together for them, and their offense and bullpen is what’s letting them down?

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        4 years ago

        If they get Max, and that’s a big reach, the postseason rotation will be Cole, Max, Taillon (who’s trending upwards lately), and Kluber/Montgomery/Severino. That isn’t half terrible. The BP faltering is a matter of bad timing and costing the team games at critical spots. It’s still one of the top pens and not a weakness. Offense not showing up all season is the reason the team is in this crappy spot.

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          You need to make the postseason though…. The yanks don’t look like that’s a guarantee

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          Thanks for stating the obvious!

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        • yankees2016rebuild

          4 years ago

          Ppl max is never coming to New York this year and maybe ever he said he doesn’t want to go to the yankees period.

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        • EasternLeagueVeteran

          4 years ago

          Max wants to go west. That means Dodgers or Padres or Giants. Read more Max stories out of Washington. At this point, all three of those teams are heading to the playoffs, and he would look like their savior if they winning bidder goes to the WS. And those 3 teams may offer much more just so the other team doesnt get him.

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  8. Joe It All

    4 years ago

    I know it’s a small sample size but the last month or so Joey Votto has looked more like the Joey Votto from a few years back when he was one of the best hitters in baseball and .OBP machine.

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    • sportsfreak52

      4 years ago

      4 straight games with a homer….

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      • Joe It All

        4 years ago

        At 37 he’s the oldest player since Bonds did it at 41. He’s locked in right now and having the Joey Votto high quality at bats that got him locked up long term. Most Reds fans complain about his contract but it’s not nearly as bad as the casual fan makes it out to be especially with what guys are getting paid these days.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          Votto used to have one of the lowest out-of-the-zone swing rates. He also had the lowest infield flyball rates out of all MLers. So when he decided to swing, he always made good contact. That’s the skillset he chose. Ichiro in his prime could’ve been a perenial 20+ homerun hitter and sacrificed hitting for less average. His Seattle teammates would always laud at his moonshots during batting practice. Aging myself – Tony Gywnn and Wade Boggs were the same.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          You’re probably right about Votto. Once Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling are off the ballot, I could see that threshold really lowering for hitters.

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        • aaronw928

          4 years ago

          This has nothing to do with who is coming off the ballot. Votto isn’t even close to borderline. He has several dominant stats and all the subjective “was he among the very best at any given time” BS too. There’s no way he’s not getting in.

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      • Joe It All

        4 years ago

        Make it 5 straight games now

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      Just NO. Bordeline HOFer and I love Votto but the Yankees already have Stanton as a DH for the next 100 years.

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      • slasher016

        4 years ago

        In the end he’s not going to be borderline at all. He’s currently ranked 14th ALL TIME for 1B according to JAWS. He’s already ahead of HOFers Murray, Greenberg, Killebrew, Cepeda. The only two above him not in the HOF are Miguel Cabrera (obvi not yet eligible) and Palmeiro (PEDs.)

        baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_1B.shtml

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  9. Kyak

    4 years ago

    Let’s wait on the next head scratcher from the Yankee’s.

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  10. Altuves Buzzer

    4 years ago

    Yankees clearing the deck to bring in … Trevor Bauer

    Would it be so crazy…

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      4 years ago

      Would he room with Domingo German on road trips?

      And would NY outbid Houston to get him?

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      • Oldschoolandthemets1980

        4 years ago

        Then would they acquire both Marcell and Roberto Ozuna to join them along with The Cuban missle.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          4 years ago

          You Mets fans always seem to forget about Familia and Reyes when you mention players suspended for domestic abuse. It’s uncanny.

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        • Oldschoolandthemets1980

          4 years ago

          Nope didnt forget, they can have them as well. Lost respect for all if them.

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    • Samer

      4 years ago

      Yes, Bauer isnt the “missing piece”

      Just adds a “distraction”

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      4 years ago

      Would they have to provide lodging for his parole officer?

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      • Oldschoolandthemets1980

        4 years ago

        Make sure his ankle monitor dont go off during the game

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  11. titanic struggle

    4 years ago

    After Garcia gave up two bombs in the 9th tonight, not a shock to see him DFA’ed..

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    • Joe It All

      4 years ago

      It’s too bad this trade didn’t go through 3 hours ago.

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      • titanic struggle

        4 years ago

        And the Yanks covered the cost of Beaming them directly to the Reds clubhouse…

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  12. Cstevenson96

    4 years ago

    Yankees probably going after kimbrel

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    • Bjoe

      4 years ago

      Kimbrel will be traded to a contender

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      • DockEllisDee

        4 years ago

        Ohh burn!

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  13. dave frost nhlpa

    4 years ago

    Cessa as a starter would be a 4-5. Solid innings eater.

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  14. Ronk325

    4 years ago

    I’m really hoping this is a precursor to the Yankees trading for Gallo

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    • Jubilee3333

      4 years ago

      I think it’s a trade for Story. I think they trade for him and sign him to a long term deal.

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      • Oldschoolandthemets1980

        4 years ago

        Story would probally hit quite well in yankee stadium alah hos former teammate DJ.

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      • Ronk325

        4 years ago

        I don’t like the idea of Story as a Yankee for the rest of this year or beyond. If they’re going to target one of the free agent shortstops it should be Seager. Also Gallo fits the team much better being a left handed hitter who plays great defense in the outfield

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  15. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 years ago

    Dysthymia expect to see this one. Have to wonder what NY is up to.

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      Knowing how Cashman operates, they’ll find an over the hill, power-hitting poor-fielding 1B that can also DH.

      Can never have enough poor power hitters that can’t hit for average, run the bases, or play defense.

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        ARE THEY GONNA GET HOSMER/ABRAMS!!!!

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      • Oldschoolandthemets1980

        4 years ago

        I hear Matt Adam’s is available now

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    • Joe It All

      4 years ago

      Your auto correct accurately described how Yankees fans have felt about this season.

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      • Samuel

        4 years ago

        @ Joe It All;

        Ducky thinks they’re doing fine.

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          4 years ago

          Man.
          So interesting when my groupies post about me on a thread I haven’t even been to. Your fascination with me, @sam, is cute/creepy, uh?

          Amyway:
          I am certainly a bright sun of indefatigable optimism. But seeing how my club entered the year as the AL favorite with a 90+% chance of the postseason, & now have 40% chance of a Wild Card birth, even ole Fent can’t claim “they’re doing fine”.

          But subtlety, nuance, & reading comprehension don’t seem to be your things. At all.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          @Ducky What’s up, man? Don’t mind that discontent troll.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Ducky!!! What’s up, brother?! I hope you, your family, and your business are doing well.

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          4 years ago

          Fellas!
          It’s @Yankee Clipper! Good to see you on the board, man. Come around more often, sir.

          @YBC –
          Don’t think he’s necessarily a troll. He is one of those guys that claims to “hate” us yet watches all of our games & posts prolifically on Yankee threads.

          _______________________________________________

          What do you guys think of this? Cessa was pretty good for us. But, I think this is the Yanks giving a nod of preference to Abreu, who has much Bigger Stuff. & Wilson was rendered obsolete by the (re?)emergence of Luetge.

          Gallo, please.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Ducky: Yeah, I can certainly see that approach, and they’re capitalizing on Cessa’s good performance. Cashman just never seems to move this…mildly? There’s usually a splash once he spins up, but your proposition makes sense in the context of our division position, and our stagnation between buying and selling any major players thus far.

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          4 years ago

          Yeah.
          I failed to note the CBT implications. Saved a couple mil. Apparently, Hal still cares about that.
          Definitely need to address CF.
          Could use about 60 starting pitcher innings. Going to be hard to do both & stay under.

          I am firmly on Team Buy. Gimme Gallo.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        4 years ago

        Ha ha. Perfect mistake.

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  16. LordD99

    4 years ago

    Yankees clearing salary for another trade, likely already agreed to.

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  17. masam99

    4 years ago

    Salary saved was de minimus. Guess this is a precursor to a deal where NYY will trade non-40 man prospects for MLB players.

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    • Herc33

      4 years ago

      They are unloading that $2.3M player option Wilson has next year though, even if it’s minor salary relief this year it’s still nice to get out of that future commitment

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      • mrkinsm

        4 years ago

        Not guaranteed he picks that up, he could turn it around and pitch well the next two months in which case he’ll decline the P portion and have to be bought out.

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  18. interlockingny

    4 years ago

    Gallo or Marte?

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    • redsfrontoffice

      4 years ago

      That’s like saying, ‘do I want the cute one who weighs 275 or the ugly one who’s 250?’

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        4 years ago

        Story of your life, eh?

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      • Oldschoolandthemets1980

        4 years ago

        Or like saying the one that was juiced up in Pirate land,or the one without pulp from Texas

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  19. billy09

    4 years ago

    Ironically Wilson was how the Yankees acquired Cessa along with Chad Green

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  20. Samer

    4 years ago

    Strange trade but ptbnl’s the most underrated asset.

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  21. SoxRule

    4 years ago

    Sorry Yankee fans, you are being delusional as usual. The two guys you gave the Reds aren’t close to equaling anyone like Votto, And that’s a very small bit of salary you’re dumping, that makes no sense either. You need more, better relievers – like we have in Boston – not less of them. You’ll probably get a prospect. And that salary dump doesn’t clear the way for Story or any good player, it’s barely a dump at all.

    With Cashman’s record in recent years, you can be sure he won’t be finding a Bogaerts, Devers, Verdugo or Renfroe, he has steered clear of some great players for some reason. It will be another low-OPS homerun hitter. Just what you need.

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    • toomuchpie

      4 years ago

      I miss the days when this site had creative trolls.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      I’d hardly call Verdugo and Renfroe “great players”. Useful and cheap yes. And how was Verdugo acquired? By trading a future HOF’er in his prime.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      4 years ago

      Home run hitters tend to have a high OPS. They kind of go together.

      Are you new to baseball?

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        Odor begs to differ (2017, 30 something homers with a sub .800 ops

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 years ago

          @tstats What’s your deal? Cherry-picking players and their anomalous stats isn’t a particularly difficult task.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          4 years ago

          @tstats
          Congrats. You found an outlier. Of the top 50 home run hitters this year, only 10 have an OPS under .800 and only three have an OPS under .750.

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    • rocky7

      4 years ago

      You Sox fans make us laugh….

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    • Joe It All

      4 years ago

      I’m the only one who mentioned and started a Votto conversation above and it’s not because I’m a Yankee fan. I’m a Reds fan and it was a Reds related post so it was an opportunity to talk about how well he has been playing as of late. There wasn’t one mention about Votto being traded to the Yankees. Sorry for the confusion.

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    • Stallion97

      4 years ago

      Votto has a no-trade clause and has said he will not waive it. Unless that has changed recently…

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      • Joe It All

        4 years ago

        Nobody is saying anything about Votto being dealt. The original commenter misinterpreted me bringing up Votto in the thread. As a Reds fan I just wanted to talk about how great Votto has been playing lately, that was it.

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  22. Noel1982

    4 years ago

    These two guys are destined to always have something to do with each other ! They’ve been traded for each other they have replaced each other , they have been teammates and now they have been traded together

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  23. Poster formerly known as . . .

    4 years ago

    This was a stupid move simply to clear $1.3M in salary when Cessa was one of the most reliable arms in an increasingly unreliable bullpen. Sometimes it feels like Cashman is just mooning the fan base with his senseless moves. “No matter what I do, Hal will never fire me, so suck it up, losers!”

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      Relax, man. This is only a half-side of a trade atm.

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        4 years ago

        Yeah, not to worry. Cashman filled Cessa’s spot with Clay Holmes and his 2.00 WHIP and 6.75 FIP vs lefties, which should play really well with the 3-batter minimum. Apparently Cashman thinks you can still use one-sided specialists out of the bullpen.

        Do you really think Cashman is going to replace Cessa with the piddling money he saved with this trade?

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          I think Cashman knows his career goes with this season’s success in making it past the WC. If they don’t make the playoffs, Hal won’t hesitate to release Cash and move on.

          Next, this move has nothing to do with Cessa or Wilson, and less to do with salary than to create roster room for the impending acquisition – who that will be? No idea, but I’m guessing a shiny toy we can distract ourselves with while we stare down a third-place finish. Will it be enough? Time will tell…

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  24. emac22

    4 years ago

    Life sucks when your PPP money runs out and you don’t qualify for food stamps.

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  25. dimelotitony

    4 years ago

    Big trade coming Yankees going to call the Padres & ask for Hosmer in return the Yankees will eat most of Stanton’s contract but the enticer will be free Dental for life to help Stanton maintain his choppers.

    In order to rid of Justin Wilson’s contract the Yankees needed to include Luis Cessa why not placed a call prior with the Cubs then & see if they could have enticed them for Hendricks & Bryant give up on Luke, Wilson, Cessa, Andujar etc. to start.

    This is going to be Trevor Story watch it happened but then what to do with Torres unless the Yankees are trading Luke to Colorado I rather take my chances on a controllable player in Torres than a player that cant stay up in Luke & don’t tell me about putting Story in CF which is ridiculous lets take another player and put him out of position which is basically what they have been doing all this time (Stanton normally RF now a DH basically), Torres (should be left in 2nd base) DJ signed to play all around but strong suit is 2nd base now at 1B, Luke a power hitting DH now at 1B, Sanchez destined to be a DH now still at catcher,

    Enough of the madness leave Allen/call back up Florial tell Gardner to open the door to the office and never come back get rid of Aaron Boones gum collection and put a straight jacket on Phil Nevin so he won’t be waving in any more runners from 2nd base when the ball is already at home plate.

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  26. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    Like a lot of others have said, this smells like clearing payroll. No one in the world would take Wilson’s salary, Cessa feels like a slight overpay for taking Wilson’s remaining $1.3M?), so maybe the Yankees re-coup a lottery ticket. Inventive and could work out both ways.

    Philly should’ve made this deal.

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    • mlbnyyfan

      4 years ago

      Both recent trades are ridiculous moves. Cashman traded for a unimpressive reliever for Park who IMO is a upgrade over Wade. Then trades Cessa surprisingly ond of the more reliable guys in BP. If Cashman trades for either Story or Gallo fire him instantly. Yankees don’t need anymore RH hitters in lineup or another all or nothing hitter. Cashman needs to think outside the box and unload Stanton ASAP even if that means taking on another bad contract like Heyward, Votto, or Hosmer. All 3 are LH and would help balance the lineup. I still don’t know why Didi was let go maybe DJ refused to play first base everyday or Yankees thought they couldn’t get anything for Voit. The Yankees lineups in the past that have been successful always had switch hitters and LH batters that caused problems by making pitchers work hard by taking long counts. Florial needs to play everyday CF now. I like Allen definitely brings speed something they have been lacking. My concern was what took so long to give him a chance. Originally he was signed to replace Gardy then Gardy brought back hopefully for last year. Gardy could be a great manager one day love his fire but he’s definitely showing his age. I can’t believe I’m saying this but Epstein could be a good choice as next GM. Yankees are getting to comfortable and no one fears they will lose their job. Where’s the passion Where’s the anger Where’s the emotion. Where’s O’NEIL when you need him.

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      • billysbballz

        4 years ago

        I agree with everything you said until Epstein name came up. No thank you. Cashman is gonna try to get them to a wild card but he has to do so without dealing any of the big prospects. Stanton is an albatross and needs to waive his no trade and we should try and deal him to San Diego for Hosmer.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          You want to trade for Hosmer and start him over Voit?

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        • JPR

          4 years ago

          Why would San Diego trade for Stanton? Or, to look at it another way, why would anyone trade for Hosmer?

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      • Colt 45

        4 years ago

        “Where’s O’NEIL when you need him.”

        NOWHERE in any discussion by Yankee fans on this site.

        THAT is the kind of player Yankees win with.

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  27. PutPeteinthehall

    4 years ago

    Sure appears to be a roster clearing/ small salary cap relief deal. Second half will be getting a rental player while staying under the cap. To get Bryant or Story they will have to send back salary so the player/players traded by the Yankees will have years of control left. Otherwise a third deal is needed to clear more cap room. Obviously this season is a disappointment and these deals are just an attempt to save face and maybe get a wild card.

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  28. chuck123

    4 years ago

    Cheap Yankees – George rolling over in his grave

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    • mlbnyyfan

      4 years ago

      I don’t think Yankees are cheap the Yankees just spend big on the wrong players like Stanton when Harper was available the following off-season. They overreact lost out on Ohtani they trade for Stanton instead of Yelich who’s left handed.

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      • william-2

        4 years ago

        No one really touches this topic, especially Yankees fans, but where they do their under the radar big spending has been prospects. How quickly we forget, as an example, that one weekend they signed HALF of the worlds top available unsigned foreign prospects. In three days they went from one of the 5 worst minor league systems to being ranked 3rd. All it took was buying 25 top prospects for tens of millions. Nearly every MLB fine, sanction, and penalty levied against other MLB teams has been common practice for over a decade. in New York as well. Anyone remember the bundling scandal? Not a single penalty for the Yankees on that one, nor for the agent pay offs.

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  29. creacher

    4 years ago

    Literal make breakfast and sit down to this news. Come on Cash, like comeee onnnnn

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  30. Dynasty

    4 years ago

    “ The appeal for the Reds is in the addition of Cessa, who was a dependable bullpen arm throughout much of his time in the Bronx.”

    L.M.F.A.O.

    I cringed each time Cessa was up there for like 5 straight years (other than this year where I simply cringe if any reliever is out there…and somehow Cessa looks passable when compared to most of the rest).

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  31. 28rings

    4 years ago

    This trade – combined with the last one – makes no sense…. Cessa is better than Holmes… Park is better than a PTBNL so they basically gave away Diego Castillo to get rid of Justin Wilson

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  32. mike156

    4 years ago

    Weirdness enters The House of Cashman….who knows where this ends

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  33. william-2

    4 years ago

    Well, it was nice of the Reds to help the Yankees by taking two players that were not in the future plans to free up cap space for the Yankees to improve themselves. I wonder what player the Reds will lose to complete this altruistic act..

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  34. JPR

    4 years ago

    the offseason is what’s brewing

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  35. kingbum

    4 years ago

    Yankees are not making the wild card this season, not as is anyway. Given injuries to both Severino and Kluber the proper play would be to shave payroll during the deadline finish the year below the tax line and reset in the off-season. They aren’t better than Toronto or Oakland IMO. There is no chance in hell of catching the Red Sox or Rays either at this point. So will the Yanks be smart? I doubt it, Cashman doesn’t know how to sell pieces to get within budget, George didn’t teach him that.

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  36. thecoffinnail

    4 years ago

    If I remember correctly the Yankees traded Wilson to Detroit for Cessa and Chad Green. I believe Cessa was believed to be the better prospect but they were both seen as back of the rotation pitchers at the time. Green has become a bullpen stud and it’s nice to see the Yankees finally moved Cessa to the bullpen full time a couple of years ago. He was doing the AAA shuttle as a spot starter for a couple of years. I wonder who the lottery ticket will be they get in return. Sucks to see Wilson go downhill so fast. When he was last with the Yankees he was pretty dominant in the 7th inning. Back when they had that nasty bullpen of Wilson, Miller, Betances and Warren. Pretty sure Shreve even had a decent half season. I miss that bullpen. I don’t miss that rotation. Also wondering when Tanaka’s arm would finally fall off and Cashman keeping Mr 3 TJ’s Capuano in the rotation whenever possible.

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  37. redsorbust

    4 years ago

    Hey all. I am curious. Are the Yankees really going for it this year to get to playoffs? I know Yankees got Gallo but would they be interested in a Nick Castellanos trade today and if so what would they be prepared to give up?
    Thanks for any replies.

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