March 30: Zach Meisel of The Athletic provides the full breakdown. Gimenez will make $1MM this year, in addition to the $4MM signing bonus. He’ll then make $5MM next year, $10MM in 2025, $15MM in 2026, then $23MM in each of the three seasons after that.
March 28: The Guardians and infielder Andrés Giménez are finalizing a seven-year, $106.5MM extension. It comes with a $4MM signing bonus and has a $23MM option for 2030 with a $2.5MM buyout. There are also escalators that can take the value of that option to $24MM. The Guardians previously had control over Giménez for the next four years, meaning that this deal buys out three free agent years and potentially a fourth with the option. Giménez is a client of Rep 1 Baseball.
Giménez, 24, began his professional career by signing with the Mets as an international amateur out of Venezuela. As he rose up the minors, he became considered by many to be the top prospect in the organization and one of the best in the entire league. Baseball America had Giménez on its top 100 list in 2018, 2019 and 2021. He made his major league debut in the shortened 2020 season, getting into 49 games and hitting .263/.333/.398 for a wRC+ of 105.
In January of 2021, Giménez came to Cleveland alongside Amed Rosario as part of the blockbuster trade that sent Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco to New York. Both Giménez and Rosario were highly touted shortstop prospects, with many at the time of that trade considering Giménez to be the stronger defender. At the start of the 2021 season, Cleveland attempted to have Giménez take over as the regular shortstop, moving Rosario to the outfield as César Hernández continued to play second base.
Unfortunately, Giménez didn’t hit the ground running with his new team. He was hitting just .179/.226/.308 in the middle of May when the club decided they needed to make a change, optioning him down to the minors. Rosario moved back to the shortstop position and has held onto that job since. Giménez, meanwhile, did well enough in Triple-A to get recalled in August, taking over the second base position that was vacated when Hernández was traded to the White Sox, and hitting a decent .245/.320/.382 down the stretch.
Many observers overlooked both the Guardians and Giménez coming into 2022. That’s fairly forgivable, considering that the club had a lackluster 80-82 record the year before and Giménez still seemed like a work in progress. But both he and the team took tremendous steps forward last year. He hit 17 home runs and stole 20 bases, while also cutting his strikeout rate to 20.1% compared to a 25.7% rate the year prior. His final batting line of .297/.371/.466 amounted to a wRC+ of 140, indicating he was 40% better than the league average hitter.
He also got excellent grades for his defense, hardly surprising given his pedigree as an excellent shortstop prospect. He garnered +16 Defensive Runs Saved, +12 Outs Above Average and a +6.5 grade from Ultimate Zone Rating at the keystone last year, with all three of those numbers ranking him second in the majors at the position. Only Jonathan Schoop bested him in OAA while Brendan Rodgers topped the other two categories. Giménez also got positive grades when covering shortstop for Rosario on occasion. Based on his all-around contributions, he was considered to be worth 6.1 wins above replacement by FanGraphs and 7.4 by Baseball Reference, with both of those numbers placing him in the top 15 among all position players in the league.
Giménez has between two and three years of MLB service time, meaning he had yet to qualify for arbitration and the Guardians had control over his rights through the end of the 2026 season. The Guardians don’t typically run big payrolls or make big splashes in free agency, so extending younger players in order to keep them on the roster has long been their modus operandi. Over the years, they’ve given extensions to players like Corey Kluber and Jason Kipnis, while more recently giving extensions to players like José Ramírez (twice), Emmanuel Clase and Myles Straw.
There is risk in this path, as it often involves taking a chance on a player that’s not fully established. In this case, the Guards are making a firm commitment to a player that really only has one good season. However, this will allow them to keep him around through his age-30 or age-31 season, keeping him in Cleveland for what should be his prime years. Giménez, meanwhile, gives up some future free agent earning power but gets to put some serious money in his bank account one year ahead of schedule, while also locking in a life-changing nine-figure guarantee.
While it’s possible Giménez sticks at second base going forward, there’s also the possibility of him moving back over to shortstop. Rosario is in his final arbitration year and is slated for free agency a few months from now. The Guardians have also discussed an extension with Rosario but haven’t concluded anything there just yet, leaving open the possibility of Giménez moving to the other side of the bag next year. The club also has many highly-touted infield prospects in the system, including Brayan Rocchio, Tyler Freeman and others. Giménez seems perfectly capable of manning either spot, giving the club plenty of options going forward. Either way, he figures to be a fixture of the lineup in Cleveland for many years to come.
Zack Meisel of The Athletic reported earlier today that the club was in “advanced negotiations” with multiple players, including Giménez. Jeff Passan of ESPN reported that Giménez and the club were finalizing a long-term deal. Efraín Zavarce of IVC Networks first reported the seven years, $106.5MM guarantee and $4MM signing bonus. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported that there was a $23MM club option for 2030 with a $2.5MM buyout and escalators that could push it to $24MM.
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I think multiplayers should enter our lingo.
I’m hearing word that in the 2023-2024 off-season the Houston will be offering extensions to multiplayers
Even if he has some type of regression this season I could see him still being an all star quite a few times throughout his career, I wish him nothing but the best. He’s a great player to watch.
This kid has hall of fame talent lol. He’s already the best fielding second baseman in baseball and he’s a natural SS. He’s left handed, has power, can steal bases. His weakness is probably contact/k’s but improved dramatically last season. He put up the quietest 7.4 WAR season at 23 imaginable. Nobody noticed. If he regresses to a 5 war season he’s a steal.
The defense and run give him an incredibly high floor. Hard not to at least break even on this contract. Most likely it works out great. Definitely worth taking a chance on.
Great move by the Indians!
A former Met SS traded to make room for Lindor, signing for (presumably) much less than him, with his new team.
2022: Gimenez fWAR: 6.1 / Lindor: 6.8
2022: Gimenez bWAR: 7.4 / Lindor: 5.5
It’s hindsight, and wasn’t a fan of him being included in that deal, but at the time it was for a known commodity while acquiring a cost effective pitcher. Nonetheless, a solid signing by Cleveland if he continues to produce and improve. He’ll be 31 when this deal ends, so he’d still be in his prime for his next deal with $100M gross on his income to date. Not too shabby.
Carrasco has been very valuable to the Mets too. People always discount him in that deal and they shouldn’t.
@metslvt17 – How has Carrasco been valuable? He hasn’t been a league average SP as a Met, per ERA+ (2021: 67; 2022: 97). Valuable because you have some insurance against some volatile arms like deGrom? Just curious.
Yeah, I wouldn’t say he’s been anywhere near as valuable as hoped due to a combination of injuries and lesser effectiveness. It is what it is.
Still, at the time of the trade, I thought people undervalued his inclusion since neither was an issue for him at the time. Hindsight is 20-20.
He’s been a #4/5 SP for $24M
That was quick
LETS GO BABY!!!!!
Next year he slides over to SS
Either that or Gabriel Arias takes over at SS…….or Arias at 2B. Even if they don’t extend Rosario, they’ll be just fine.
They won’t extend Rosario. He’s awful.
He’s not the best defensive SS in the game, but he’s always been a good hitter, and therein lies his value. His presence in that lineup cannot be understated.
It’s odd to hear that because as a prospect he was known for his outstanding defense, however his offense needed improvement. Amazing how a player can change over time.
And Trevor Stephan. Guards are the next Braves and you heard it here first
The Indians were doin’ this in the 90s, so if anything the Guardians are the next Indians! lol Either way, this is VERY awesome!!
C Yards Jeff
Not a Guardians fan, but ya gotta give it to them. Scouting department seems creatively top notch and FO listens to them.
Stephens rule 5.
Then there is Josh Bell via FA. Seems to fit their offense. IMO, was not a desperation signing. Station to station player who makes contact more than he swings and misses. This club is not home run eccentric. No pressure on the big fella to have to launch dingers, just put the ball in play. Cool.
I think Bell fits perfectly. You have Ramirez and a lot of gap hitters. I’m usually a field-first fan, but sometimes you need a flat-footed slugger in the middle of the lineup.
I’m so happy
Watching Gimenez come up the Mets system I knew he was ML caliber but I thought more of the Joe McEwing type. It’s looking more like a better version of Placido Polanco, couldn’t be happier for the kid. Guards got a good one, Amed Rosario isn’t bad either. One of the most fair trades I’ve seen in a while.
When I first saw your description of “a better version of Placido Polanco” I was offended. “Placido Polanco couldn’t touch Andres Gimenez!” I thought…..
…then I reminded myself of Polanco’s stats. I had forgotten how good he was. 41.9 career WAR. Lifetime fielding Runs Above Average well into positive territory at both 2b and 3b. He was pretty good at short, too.
It would be awesome of Gimenez ended up better than Placido Polanco. He has more power, I think, and despite how good a fielder Polanco was, Gimenez might be a bit better.
Here’s to Placido Polanco! Thanks for the comp!
A lot of people haven’t heard of him. MLB does such a poor job marketing players on small market teams it’s insane.
They do a poor job overall. The last time they had a household face was The Kid Ken Griffey, Jr.
Usually I’d agree but he was somehow voted as an ASG starter playing for a team that isn’t even relevant in their own city. Doesn’t matter how many division titles they win or stars they have, that franchise can’t draw flies. Anyone who knows ball knows how good he is.
These things tend to be cyclical. You draw by opening a new ballpark and/or winning. “The Jake” sold-out consistently for years when they first opened.
Yes, they drew in the 1990’s, but the main reason for that was that the Browns were gone. As soon as the Browns came back they stopped drawing. I hate to admit this, but it is true: Cleveland is a football town. I don’t get it….they have been embarrassingly bad. But in the minds of many Cleveland fans, the Browns getting close to the playoffs is as good as the Guardians playing in the World Series.
That just isn’t true about Cleveland. Even when they were an absolute juggernaut in the late ’10s it took a 22 game winning streak during a 102 win pennant defense to (just barely) crack 2m attendance. Couldn’t even outdraw the REDS last year.
@norcalguardiansfan: The Indians also drew then because they had a strong, winning team. And how would you know it’s a football town with such a perennially crapola team?
Um….because I lived there for thirty years….and because the browns consistently have good attendance while losing, while the Guardians have terrible attendance while winning.
It is a football town. Period.
@norcalguardiansfan: I didn’t mean how you personally know. I meant how would anyone know given how bad the Browns are? It’s called sarcasm.
I had to go the The Cleveland Clinic last year for some work. The entire city was behind the Guardians, including the doctors and nurses there.
The problem MLB has with small market teams is that because if the revenue disparity, fans that have lived though their teams rebuilding and being contenders for a few years watch their good players leave in free agency. The team can’t afford to pay more than a few. The team becomes lousy, and the fans want to know where all their players went to. So when they next contend the fans watch, but they don’t get as involved as they know most of their good players will be leaving shortly.
The KC Chiefs in the NFL don’t have the problem the back-to-back World Series KC Royals had. Same thing with the Milwaukee Bucks in the NBA.
This revenue disparity between teams is simply outrageous. It’s a joke for MLB to market itself as a national sport. It revolves around the large market teams – that buy the players from the smaller market teams that develop them and can’t afford to keep them when they become stars.
well said, Samuel
The Indians have had one of the best records in baseball for the past ten years. This isn’t Cincy or PT.
@Samuel: The problem for MLB in this area is that the only methods for preventing the players from being free to choose where they work, such as the reserve system and the hard salary cap, are illegal, unfair to players, or both.
You have the freedom to leave your job and go make more money working somewhere else. Would you want to work in a system where you are bound indefinitely to your employer and couldn’t do that? Neither do the players.
@baseballknower69: Wrong. Anyone who follows MLB and knows about the Lindor trade has heard of Gimenez.
@Blue Baron Out of 8 billion people that isn’t a lot. Just in the USA it isn’t a lot.
@YourDreamGM: But that has nothing to do with the player’s value to a team.
@Blue Baron the player’s value to a team part i must have missed.
I watch every Blue Jays game, some Giants games and River Cats games, baseball is my only sport. I remember the Lindor trade. I didn’t remember who Gimenez was when I read this title (no doubt I’ve seen him play, but not enough to memorize him). I expect a lot of fans of teams that haven’t played the Guardians a ton, or that played them only before be broke out, are in the same boat.
@smuz: He actually showed promising signs with the Mets before the trade.
I pay even less attention to the Mets than to the Guardians. I think most fans only follow the prospects of our own teams and maybe the teams our teams directly compete with.
@smuz: Which this year is everyone. And millions play fantasy or Rotisserie games and get to know about players from all teams.
You hit it head on!
For years I and others have been on here responding to posters that call individual small market teams “cheap” because they don’t go out and pay retail to sign free agents and bump young players from playing time before their teams are ready to compete. The Guardians and Orioles are 2 prime examples.
When those teams that are coming through rebuilds can identify which of the youngsters are keepers, THEN they lay out money – and do it for their OWN players.
When small market teams build winners they do it with developed players that 95% of MLB fans never even heard of. All they know is how the Mets, Padres, Jays and others spend more and more money. The fact is that while those teams look good on paper, MLB games are played on dirt and grass….and it’s a young mans game.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Watch it be 5/130, with uninformed commentators ranting how that’s below his free agent market value…
No way that big
deGrom Texas Ranger
I hope, but the Wander Franco, Tatis, J Rod, and Carroll extensions have been well above free agent market value for pre arb guys mostly who haven’t played a full season. Teams really don’t understand how per arb and arb salaries work or they expect the current 10% inflation to continue forever, which is absurd for a country that has been 2-3% annually the last few decades or the last century on average.
Teams have economists with revenue projection models in their MLB monopoly. They’re not exactly tossing random darts on a dartboard.
Teams don’t understand how pre-arb and arb salaries work? Name 5 early extension deals that have been a huge detriment to teams? Now think of any early extension that was a steal. Teams know exactly what they are doing and they are limiting earning potential for a lot of players.
deGrom Texas Ranger
The ones I am saying are bad are mostly recent. Maybe, some work out, but on average, they won’t save teams money in terms of annual average. You don’t pay a guy 20 million a year for a 7 year deal if you are getting just 1 more year and then think it’s a steal because he would get 30 million on the open market. It’s more like 3 years of free control and 3 years of arb at 40 or 50 or whatever and then the last year for the remainder, which is why many of these are way too much for free agent years, given those are only worth it if the guy develops each year perfectly as expected.
Teams really don’t understand how per arb and arb salaries work
LOL! These folks, on both sides,know the player values down to the penny.
100 million for 1 year sounds great for Giménez.
You are literally saying “on average” what is that average? Name the deals you think ended bad “on average” (hint: they don’t). All these early extensions pay off huge dividends to the teams because they lock up a young potential star through their free agent years at a rate much below market. The best starting pitchers were making $20M a year 5 years ago, now they make $40M+. When Gimenez option is exercized he probably won’t even be the 7th highest paid player on his “small market” team.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Martin Perez, Evan White, Yelich (late), Matt Harrison, Elvis Andrus, Votto/Cabrera (late), Bergman making 30 MM in his 2 free agent years isn’t quite a bargain, Altuve possibly… Again, I am not talking about the past deals nearly as much as the current deals. Yeah, inflation exists, but Carroll and J Rod are getting like 35+ million for free agent seasons if you assume a reasonable arb amount. It’s the <1 year ones that seem like boneheaded deals. Now, I may be overemphasized AAV too much here for unproven guys, and obviously team options are hard to quantitatively value, but the smell test says just pay Judge 40 MM then instead of paying a prospect 35-40. Even if they make more with arb, the escalators mostly negate the value. Maybe, the Tasis deal may be alright since it's so long and defers some of the early overpaying. Still, MLB.com polled many executives who though that "top prospect" Yoshida, the Boston outfielder, may end up with one of the worst deals. He was also a top prospect. The Tanaka deal was essentially like an extension, and if you consider foreign players AA guys, it's basically the same logic here, except prospects are under control for at least 6 and maybe almost 7 years, depending on effective manipulation of team control (aka Kris Bryant).
It’s being reported as 7/106.5 which is even better
deGrom Texas Ranger
He should make 30-40 million the next 4 years, so it’s 3 years and 70 million roughly for his free agent years. Some of that money better be in team option buyouts. Even then, it’s not a Crobin Carroll/Franco/J Rod type setting your money on fire overpay. Honestly a better player than Semien will ever be and probably much cheaper as a free agent – quite decent tbh
And until just now I didn’t know that it kicks in next year so it actually even covers longer than that. I agree with you about the $30-40 million he’d get through arbitration, so when you factor in a salary around the minimum this year you’re probably looking somewhere around 3/75 for free agent years or up to about 4/100 if they exercise the team option.
I agree with you on Semien and although I think the other three extensions you mentioned could turn out really well, Gimenez has at least done this over a full year and Carroll/Franco/JRod hadn’t when they signed. All in all I have no complaints about this lol
None of those extensions were overpays. Giving deGrom 37 mill a year would qualify as setting one’s money on fire.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Let me introduce you to free agency. Semien, yes. DeGrom needs 120 innings per year to be worth it and has thrown 200+ each year. Why are you taking it so personally? Don’t get offended. Texas has wasted a lot of money. When fragile cavemen Scherzer and Verlander (fewer innings last 3 years) get 43, this is a steal.
deGrom Texas Ranger
That is actually incorrect. The deal starts this year, as it says 2030 option, so that’s the 8th year.
Unlike Lindor who he was traded for, Gimenez willing to sign a long term deal early in his career
And who makes more money overall? Lindor
Great deal for both sides. Lindor trade officially won by the Cleveland baseball team.
They won it the day it was made. Not like they didn’t know Lindor was great. They wanted to dump salary and pickup whatever talent they could get.
After signing a below-market extension, I’m pretty sure JRam is happy about this when a front office keeps their word.
deGrom Texas Ranger
As an Indian, I can tell you the Indians are quite stingy. This deal starts next year, so it’s really 3 arb years and then 4 more years, with a club option. Say even gers just 26.5 million in arb somehow. Even then, it’s just 4 years 80 million with a team option. They buyout could make it even better. Even though I hated the last few big pre arb extensions, this one may be a steal, even for Indians.
Did you think you did something here? Talk about ham fisted.
Does India have a major league team now?
deGrom Texas Ranger
Kind of, but they really don’t produce players. They are too busy with cricket to learn how to play a real sport.
Lol Cricket is a real sport along with rugby and many others enjoyed by millions of enthusiasts around the world.
Just started learning/watching cricket last year – its not bad..hard to figure out initially though. There is a major league cricket league in the US this year – each of the IPL teams owns a franchise ( I think). Personally I’m going for the Seattle Orcas
Didn’t you previously say you were Asian? Nobody cares what you are.
“deGrom Texas Ranger
As an Indian”
Not to get in the middle of this, but I do believe that India is in Asia.
It’s not bad for the players either. You’re locking in generational wealth for yourself and entire family. You’re always an injury away from losing massive earning potential. As a kid from Venezuela he can now be a hero for his entire family.
While an injury can delay things a bit, career ending injuries are not that common. Sure $100M is a lot of money but when your counterparts are making 3 times that much then you are massively underpaid.
Ask Carlos Correa if injury history can hurt your total career earnings…
Great example! Carlos Correa has made $61M in his career and just signed for $200M more. Gimenez will never even sniff at half of that money. You just proved my point even more. Even with an injury (sustained in the minors) elite players can make $260M+ in their careers
Carlos Correa made $61m through 6 full years of play and one free agent year before he got his current contract. Seven years total.
Andrés Giménez is getting $106.5m plus $2.5m he made from the Mets and Indians before this contract goes in effect.
So Giménez is under contract for 2 more years making 9 compared to Correa’s first 7. He’s getting $109m vs. Correa’s $61m…a difference of $8m over 2 years. At which time he can be a free agent. I may be off a little, but Giménez did fine.
Other than math and understand MLB salary structure, what’s your problem?
And what is funny about all this insanity is this…..
In a recent interview Correa said he was happy about his new contract because although money means nothing to him, now his father can stop working.
Correa’s father lives in Puerto Rico. Previous to this contract Carlos made $61m.
To put this in perspective – I’m known people in America that made $80k a year and they got their parents to stop working.
I think it’s just enough for someone who values a sure thing to take. Teams are paying 30 year olds quite well.
Another Cleveland contract larger than anything the big market White Sox have dished out. Just saying….
He’ll regress some. He’s probably more of a .270/.340/.420 talent, but a 3-4 win player is still easily with that level contract.
Have you watched him?
Gimenez outperformed his underlying numbers last year. He doesn’t have a body that looks like it’ll be conducive to adding additional power.
I expect him to be very good but I don’t think that he’ll be a perennial 6 WAR player. id bet Cleveland doesn’t either. Doesn’t need to be—to be a real asset.
@LordD99 You are better at this than me. I see the obvious red flags. Also see the shift restrictions and his potential to add power.
Not a bad deal.
These extensions don’t make much sense to me. More than a few of them will end in regret
Like who? I get the regret over 10 year free agent deal that go into a player’s 40s. But what’s wrong with locking up a good player in their prime for a third of the cost
Exactly… extensions that didn’t work out
Jon Singleton 5 year $10.5M is only one I can think of
That’s your example of extensions that didn’t work out?? Just start watching baseball? Try Chris Davis
For the right price they will mostly work out for the team. Braves Astros Guardians will be fine. Mets Red Sox Padres tbd.
Guaranteed contracts are always a roll of the dice. Whether in free agency or in extensions for young players, the law of averages says there will always be deals that don’t pan out. Ask the Cardinals how they feel about the Paul DeJong extension right now. Or the Carlos Martinez extension. Both were reasonable contracts given to seemingly projectable talents. Neither worked out as planned. And that’s ok. That shouldn’t discourage teams from giving out extensions. But if you believe there is such thing as a guaranteed, can’t lose, gamble, you’re a sucker.
What is the exact term of the contract? Passan is stating 2024 through 2030 with a club option in 2031 and Zavarce and Rosenthal are stating 2023 through 2029 with a club option in 2030.
I love this guy Gimenez. He is a good deal and a good deal more. Better player than Lindor LOL
In nurse follars
“I should have learned to play the guitar, I should have learned to bang them drums” “Money for nothing, chicks for free”.
I always thought it was “checks for free.” I used to get free checks from my bank but now they charge like 10 bucks a box!!!
If only the Mets kept Gimenez. Could have signed Lindor after the season if they really wanted him. Gimenez is better than Lindor yet Gimenez makes less than a third of what Lindor makes. Lindors defense is probably the best I’ve seen at shortstop. With that being said, I don’t really care that he batted around .270 or had 26 homeruns this season because a lot of those hits he got were in blowouts instead of when the Mets needed a hit. Ill give him some credit, he plays almost every game but that type of money he got paid should go to a superstar, and hes not a superstar. These pitchers don’t fear him when he comes up to bat. Hes a good hitter for a shortstop but compared to the rest of the league’s top 10 hitters, hes not even close. Hes getting paid like hes a top 5 player when he would barely make the cutoff for my top 40-50 list. Hes also a phony as well because when he got here in Spring Training he acted nasty to the managerial staff saying “I’m not shifting, I know how to play shortstop” and then once he got his money his whole attitude changed. Hasn’t stopped smiling since he signed the biggest overpay in MLB history. Steve Cohen spends a lot of money but the players he invest in arent worth what he spends. I wonder if his wife had anything to do with the Lindor signing, or the passing over Trea Turner to go out and try to sign Correa. Just questioning
Mr. Hindsight is 20/20: The what-ifs don’t matter. The Mets have a great team right now so maybe you should try to enjoy your upcoming season.
@YankeesBleacherCreature Lindor was coming off a downyear in 2020, all his hitting rates were down. It made sense to either wait till his contract was up to sign him or if you did trade for him, wait till the season is over to see how he performs in the National League + New York. Hes definetly not a NY guy, thats for sure
Who cares if they’re a New York guy if they perform well on the field. Andy Pettitte wasn’t. Mike Mussina wasn’t. The list goes on. Most players live in the Westchester or CT burbs or went home to their farms/ranches in the off-season.
@LFGMets LOL top notch comment as usual. I wish Steve Cohen would listen to you.
Excellent, well thought-out comment.
Who would have thought that Giménez would be a $100M player..
Definitely not the Mets
That was a fair deal. Mets still have Carrasco and signed Lindor. Both known commodities. Cleveland haddock to get some high upside guys and it just happens Rosario and Gimenez played well. Rosario could get a big deal next year. He has similar value to Boegarts
Great deal for CLE
This is great news! I’m so happy for Andres. I was a huge fan of this kid coming up through the minors and when the Mets brought him up, he was the reason I was watching the games as intently as I was. It was tough to see him go in that trade, but it’s been a few years now, and I couldn’t be happier for this guy landing a nice contract for himself. This is definitely a good day.
Incredibly reasonable take from a fan.
A+ extension. Player gets guaranteed security but this is fantastic for the team. Where is the wow person so I can give them a thumbs up. This is indeed wow worthy.
please don’t encourage him
I don’t like that person. But one of the few times it would have been worthy they were late to the party.
Paying 3x more for a lesser older ss. Lolmets.
Congrats to both sides.
I’m happy for both parties. I always thought he would be good. I wish he was still a Met but not gonna complain about Lindor.
Don’t hate the multiplayer, hate the multigame.
How does Rosario feel about this
Hired Gun 23
The article had me @ “He became considered…” So I had to read the whole thing. I dig how these posts are written…informative and entertaining. Good job, Cleveland…way to lock up talent.
the underlying metrics suggest Gimenez is do for regression, but even if he just hits league average his defense is so good that it more then justifys the contract! Congrats Cleveland, this is a nice signing.
As a lifelong Mets fan I’m super happy for this guy. Working hard and getting good guidance from both organizations has given him generational wealth.
Wow! Two guys in one day. Reminds me of my ex
almost fair comparison. difference being Bryan has more of a track record and a few years older.
Bryan going for a guarantee 6y AAV of 16M seems reasonable for both sides. maybe add in a vesting option for a 7th year if he is an average player in that 6th year.
However, Pirates would likely need to pay a little more to keep players on a losing team. If i were Bryan an wanting to stay in Pittsburgh I would take 16m AAV. If indifferent settle on 17m AAV. If really wants to be on a more clear cut contender wouldn’t take less than 20m AAV. on no less than a 6year extension starting today.
Anyway.. congrats to Andres!
With the deal being so heavily backloaded, who will Gimenez be playing for in 2026 and beyond?
I don’t recall seeing many signing bonus in baseball but seemed like a good way to get a young guy to accept the deal.
Long Suffering Guardians Fan
He will be making the big bucks when Blitzer potentially takes majority ownership. Good to see.
This will always be remembered as Steve Cohen’s first major move. What a fool.
The Mets could have had Giminez (and Rosario, 4.3 WAR in 2022 after proper training) for $106m over 7 years instead of Lindor for $364m, a ludicrous deal that will involve the team shuffling a Lindor in his mid30s between LF and DH as he hits .220/.280/.290 over the last 4 years of his contract.