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Astros Notes: Payroll, Rotation, Maldonado, Neris

By Steve Adams | November 9, 2023 at 1:39pm CDT

The Astros advanced to their seventh consecutive League Championship Series in 2023 but fell shy of a third straight World Series bid when the division-rival and eventual World Series Champion Rangers knocked them off in a thrilling seven-game series. They’ll head into the winter with a trio of notable relievers hitting free agency (Hector Neris, Phil Maton, Ryne Stanek) and with a rotation that’s a bit thinned out by to injuries of Lance McCullers Jr. (flexor tendon surgery) and Luis Garcia (Tommy John surgery). Veteran Michael Brantley is also returning to the open market.

Despite a plethora of needs up and down the roster, general manager Dana Brown openly acknowledged at this week’s GM Meetings that his team doesn’t “have a ton” of financial flexibility heading into the offseason (link via Matt Kawahara of the Houston Chronicle). That’s unwelcome news for ’Stros fans, though Brown suggested that if the right situation presented itself, owner Jim Crane might push beyond his current comfort levels.

As it stands, strong rookie performances from the likes of Hunter Brown and J.P. France give Houston a quality group of six starters on which to lean. Reacquired ace Justin Verlander, lefty Framber Valdez and righties Cristian Javier and Jose Urquidy round out the rotation options.

Verlander will pitch next season at 41, however, while Valdez and Javier faltered a bit as the year wore on; Javier’s rotation spot was skipped a couple times over the summer as he labored through mixed results, while Valdez turned in a pedestrian 4.64 ERA over his final 99 innings before being rocked for 12 earned runs in 12 postseason frames. Urquidy spent several months on the injured list and turned in 73 innings of 5.30 ERA ball between the regular season and playoffs combined.

The depth beyond those six is more concerning. Righties Shawn Dubin and Brandon Bielak both had rough showings in Triple-A. The latter tossed 80 innings of 3.83 ball in the big leagues but did so with a 10.2% walk rate, 17.6% strikeout rate and too many home runs allowed (1.35 HR/9) to necessarily bank on a repeat. Former top prospect Forrest Whitley, also on the 40-man roster, posted a 5.70 ERA in 30 Triple-A frames.

Brown indicated to reporters that he’d be open to opportunities to add “a legit third starter or better.” Logically speaking, doing so without radically increasing the payroll would likely require operating on the trade market rather than in free agency. It sounds as though that’s viewed more as a luxury than a priority anyhow; McCullers and Garcia are expected back sometime in July, and Brown instead called the bullpen and backup catcher “priorities.”

To that end, it’s perhaps not surprising to hear that the ’Stros and longtime catcher Martin Maldonado could continue their relationship. Chandler Rome of The Athletic reports that the two parties have mutual interest in a reunion, adding that Brown has already met with Maldonado’s agent, Dan Lozano, during this week’s GM Meetings. The Astros have publicly declared that Yainer Diaz will be their primary catcher in 2024, but as Brown himself spelled out, adding an experienced backup is a goal.

Houston has stuck with Maldonado for four and a half years despite the fact that he’s perhaps been MLB’s least-productive hitter during that time. Over the past three seasons in particular, Maldonado has been a liability at the dish. In 1212 plate appearances since 2021, he’s turned in a .183/.260/.333 — about 34% worse than league average by measure of wRC+. However, the Astros are enamored of Maldonado’s game-calling, game-planning and broad defensive skills. Maldonado ranks among the game’s best at blocking pitches in the dirt over the past four years, although his framing skills fell off a cliff in 2023 and his caught-stealing rate has steadily declined.

Houston clearly loves Maldonado’s work with their pitching staff, however, and the organization would surely welcome him working in a mentor role to Diaz, whom they hope can cement himself as the catcher of the future. Add in that a new deal with Maldonado in a reduced role would undoubtedly be a low-cost arrangement, and it wouldn’t at all be surprising to see them hammer something out. Maldonado earned $5MM in 2022 and $4.5MM last year.

Maldonado isn’t the only former Astro who’s on the radar. Via Rome, Brown acknowledged that he’s also spoken with Neris’ representatives at Octagon about a new deal, though there’s no indication a new deal is close to fruition. Neris turned down an $8.5MM player option and although he’s 34 years old will quite likely be able to secure a multi-year pact on the open market this winter after turning in a sub-2.00 ERA in his second season with Houston.

Turning to a pair of Astros icons, both Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman are entering the final year of their contracts. Brown has been forthcoming about his desire to make the pair lifelong Astros, but agent Scott Boras — who represents both players — said at this week’s meetings that contract talks have not yet begun (link via Kawahara).

Astros fans will want to check out the pieces from both Kawahara and Rome in full, as they’re rife with refreshingly straightforward answers from Brown — the type of candor that many of his peers throughout the league generally shy away from offering. Beyond acknowledging priorities in the bullpen and behind the plate as well as interest in bolstering the rotation, Brown suggested that outfield won’t be a primary focus this offseason, given the presence of Kyle Tucker, Chas McCormick, Yordan Alvarez, Mauricio Dubon and Jake Meyers. That doesn’t expressly rule out an addition — unexpected opportunities on the trade market, for instance, could always arise — but it doesn’t seem that’s a hot-button issue for the Astros at the moment.

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38 Comments

  1. Alkie

    2 years ago

    SEVENTH consecutive ALCS.

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    • Shadow_Banned

      2 years ago

      They were cheating the first 3

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      • Footjoyboi

        2 years ago

        Pretty sure everybody was. Why do you think Howie Kendrick retired so quickly after the 2019 World Series? He didn’t want the fake numbers from that year and years prior to be obvious, and knew it would be suspicious if he played a few more years. Every player has been quiet about it since the scandal for a reason because they know they’ll get called out by someone if they try to snitch on someone else. They all hope it goes away and hope the Astros continue to be the scapegoat.

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        • CO Guardening

          2 years ago

          I read an article about how the 48 Cleveland Indians used a Telescope in CF and used military signals Bob Feller learned during WWII service to steal signs. Maybe that’s why Cleveland hasn’t won the WS since. It’s the curse!

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        • jjd002

          2 years ago

          That exactly why the Astros players boycotted the all star game that year, too. I’m shocked the rest of the league has let them take the fall for it this long.

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        • Tigers3232

          2 years ago

          @Foot Kendrick played in 2020 and then retired, but ok….

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        • Jordan09

          2 years ago

          They’ll end up 6 ft under if they said a word bc it won’t be the players they’re telling on…

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  2. ohyeadam

    2 years ago

    Hunter Brown had a 5 ERA, that’s considered a strong season? He did stay healthy which is big for a young pitcher but the results weren’t there

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    • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

      2 years ago

      I guess they are counting on his better underlying numbers and strong K rate. Maybe? It doesn’t make too much sense. He did show flashes of greatness though, I’ll give him that.

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  3. Footjoyboi

    2 years ago

    Valdez lost them the ALCS. and had a very inconsistent year. I think he lost all 3 of his postseason starts this year too. Astros also could’ve easily won games 1 and 2 of the ALCS if they hadn’t gone 1 for 30 w/RISP and Bregman’s game 1 almost homer that was just to the right of the Crawford Boxes, but baseball is a game of inches, so it could go either way in any game. Happy for the Rangers, and gonna be a fun AL West for a few years at least.

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    • CO Guardening

      2 years ago

      Maybe he’s feeling fatigue from all those playoff games? And yes, went 0-3 this post season.

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  4. steven st croix

    2 years ago

    In 2022 they used a 6 man rotation for much of the season and they had the best staff in baseball. They should do this next season and keep Brown, France, and Javier fresh all season. Also, McCullers should be back and Luis Garcia will be back, they can trade maybe a JP France for a need at the deadline.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      2 years ago

      It’s Hunter Brown who should be traded.

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      • CityofChampions

        2 years ago

        Hunter Brown could be traded if his value is really high. No reason to sell low though. At the worst he’ll be a really good reliever.

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  5. Logistics Guy

    2 years ago

    I guess all the winning over past 7 years and record attendance. Does not mean the owner will open his wallet more.

    And who can blame him see the other teams spend stupid and you see the results. Ask the guy LAA and New York Mets and New York Yankees.

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  6. User 1939973770

    2 years ago

    trade lmj pena and valdez

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    • Footjoyboi

      2 years ago

      Dubon at short?

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  7. Shadow_Banned

    2 years ago

    Neris and Maton would look really good in Dodger blue

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      2 years ago

      You could have Maton, but we need to get Neris back.

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      • Shadow_Banned

        2 years ago

        Pass on Ohtani.

        Sign Snell, Neris, Maton, and Montgomery

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  8. ❤️ MuteButton

    2 years ago

    Maldonado can coach if he wants. As a player he’s not competitive.

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    • jjd002

      2 years ago

      I can tolerate him as a once a week start (max two times). My problem is – will he or the pitchers accept that if he’s on the roster? Him starting full time cost the Astros multiple games.

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  9. texgal01

    2 years ago

    Bagwell and Crane are going to either have Ross, Montgomery or someone. As manager.

    myself I would love to make a splash. No not offer 12 year contracts but get someone of significance. Yes Verlander was someone years ago but stop going after ones that need to rebuild careers. I still wonder with rotation will Garcia and McCullers really return by August or so. Or July. Will Brown turn his rookie season around. Valdez and Javier look like did in 2022. Urquidy we can let him go. Have not been impressed with him at all. We need better outfield not Meyers and Chas for third year battling. Someone that will stick. Will Peña rebound after sophomore flop. Myself if keep just doing one year contracts then Crane needs to sell team to someone that will spend. At least more. Not saying Yankee or Dodger kind of money or such but show that you really want a player or pitcher or such. What will they give for next manager. One year with that maybe too. Need to show want someone around.

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  10. solaris602

    2 years ago

    Was not aware Boras represents both Altuve and Bregman. That’s about as big an obstacle to extensions as you can imagine especially on a limited budget. Consider 2024 their last hurrah, and lest anyone generate the argument that the player calls the shots, when was the last time a Boras client took a hometown discount? That’s not why players hire him.

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    • nlewiss

      2 years ago

      They’ve gone all in on these two. Of course letting Springer & Correa walk in the process. Why are they low on budget or asking for a discount? The hometown advantage is the team wins and they, by all accounts, want to be there. Boras works for these guys and they are the highest paid players on the team.

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    • astros_fan_84

      2 years ago

      The Crane Astros haven’t had issues with Boras. LMJ is a Boras client. I’m not worried about it. There’s plenty of room for a deal if both sides want to make it work.

      I can’t see Altuve leaving. Bregman is more likely since he hasn’t had an elite year in a while, but will likely expect to be paid as a player with multiple years of elite to come.

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  11. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    2 years ago

    “Maldonado ranks among the game’s best at blocking pitches in the dirt over the past four years”
    That’s just wrong. He leads the league in passed balls.. By every metric, he is the worst catcher in MLB. This nonsense about his game calling skills is just that – nonsense. OUr pitchers returned better results when Diaz was behind the plate.. They should wave goodbye to Maldonado, and breathe a sigh of relief that he and Baker are gone.

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      2 years ago

      Yeah he’s all-around horrible. It’s mind boggling that the ERA is higher when he catches despite the fact that he is the main catcher for both Verlander and Valdez.
      So the pitchers like throwing to him, but they’re worse when he does…

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      • Beff Jagwell

        2 years ago

        It’s quite baffling how pitchers want him when he is clearly a hindrance to them.

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    • astros_fan_84

      2 years ago

      It’s one of the stranger stories in Astros history.

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  12. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    2 years ago

    Yep, very unimpressive so far.

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  13. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    2 years ago

    Houston wants to keep Maldy around because he’s great at calling HBP’s and then acting as buffer so the hit batter doesn’t go after the pitcher. He’s the head thug with the thug mentality that gets into other teams heads & keeps them on the defensive. That’s why they keep him around.

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    • steven st croix

      2 years ago

      No.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        2 years ago

        I know , I was just being a dumba@@. I’m trying to be nicer to the Astros, it’s my News Years resolution for 2024.

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        • Go Go Power Rangers

          2 years ago

          You still got about 2 months, don’t worry

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  14. Unclenolanrules

    2 years ago

    Please do not sign Maldonado. Please.

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  15. Beff Jagwell

    2 years ago

    Maldonado’s game calling and game planning against the Rangers in the ALCS were atrocious. He continually called for outside fastballs and the Rangers responded, quite often, with obliterating the baseball. Maldonado did not revise the game plan, he actually appeared to double down on it.

    Worst catcher in baseball in every single category, offensively and defensively.

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