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Mets Notes: Senga, Taylor, Marte

By Steve Adams | September 3, 2025 at 10:44am CDT

The Mets’ rotation has gotten a huge helping hand from rookies Nolan McLean and Jonah Tong over the past few weeks, which has helped paper over a series of underwhelming performances from the veterans who were expected to hold down key roles. Frankie Montas pitched in only nine games and recorded a 6.28 ERA before going down with a UCL injury that will require surgery. Sean Manaea’s three-year, $75MM deal began with a lengthy IL stint for an oblique strain, and he’s now pitched in 10 games with a 5.60 ERA.

On the surface, it may seem odd to lump Kodai Senga and his excellent 3.02 ERA in with those other struggling veterans, but Senga has floundered through his past eight starts. The 32-year-old righty has totaled just 35 2/3 innings in that time while being tagged for a 6.56 earned run average. He’s walked 13% of his opponents in that stretch and surrendered a woeful 2.02 homers per nine innings pitched.

Senga’s struggles have been significant enough that the Mets have at least considered the possibility of sending him to the minors, Will Sammon of The Athletic reports. That’s not as straightforward of a decision as it would be with most pitchers; Senga’s five-year, $75MM contract stipulates that he cannot be optioned to the minor leagues without his consent. Sammon notes that Senga said Tuesday that he’s willing to do whatever is necessary to turn things around.

Still, it’d be a surprising development, given not only Senga’s prior runner-up finish in 2023 Rookie of the Year voting but also his general excellence to begin the season. Senga started 13 games before a hamstring strain sent him to the injured list on June 13. In those 13 games, he pitched 73 2/3 innings (5 2/3 innings per start) and recorded an immaculate 1.47 ERA. His rate stats didn’t support that level of dominance (23.9 K%, 10.6 BB%), but metrics like FIP (3.24) and SIERA (4.27) didn’t think he was due for the type of regression he’s since experienced.

Perhaps that hamstring strain led him to develop some bad mechanical habits, or perhaps he’s still feeling some discomfort. It’s also feasible that there could simply be some fatigue setting in after Senga missed nearly all of the 2024 season due to shoulder and calf injuries. Whatever the cause, this is the most sustained stretch of struggles that Senga has encountered since making the move from Nippon Professional Baseball to Major League Baseball. With the Mets overwhelmingly likely to reach the postseason, it’d make sense to take any measures necessary to get Senga back to form ahead of the playoffs.

Elsewhere on the roster, injuries continue to pile up. The Mets placed outfielder Tyrone Taylor on the 10-day IL due to a left hamstring strain yesterday, recalling Jared Young from Triple-A Syracuse in his place. The IL placement was backdated to Aug. 30. Manager Carlos Mendoza expressed optimism that Taylor wouldn’t require a long stint on the shelf but said the team felt it had little choice after Taylor was rested for three days but still unable to run close to full speed Monday (link via Steve Kornacki of MLB.com).

Taylor had struggled at the plate for most of the season but finally appeared to be turning a corner. He’d collected three multi-hit performances in his past seven games, going 10-for-21 with four doubles and three walks (.476/.542/.667). It’s a small sample, of course, and Taylor is still hitting just .218/.277/.315 overall, but getting his bat going in the season’s final month would’ve been a nice perk headed into postseason play. He’s provided outstanding defense throughout the year and also gone 11-for-13 on the basepaths.

With Taylor sidelined, it’s possible that Starling Marte could see some occasional reps in the outfield. He’s been a designated hitter 65 times this season, compared to just eight games in the field, but the 36-year-old has had a resurgent season at the plate. After hitting just .258/.314/.357 from 2023-24, Marte has turned back the clock with a .280/.358/.432 batting line in 272 plate appearances. This year’s eight home runs are already more than he hit in either 2023 or 2024 (despite considerably more plate appearances those seasons). His 18.4% strikeout rate is his lowest since 2020.

While Marte’s downturn in performance from 2023-24 might’ve led to some speculation about whether he’d continue playing after his four-year contract concludes at the end of the 2025 season, this year’s performance shows he still has something left in the tank. There may not be a great fit with the Mets — Brandon Nimmo and Juan Soto are in the outfield corners, and the Mets have several infield options to cycle through the DH spot — but Marte tells MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo that he plans to continue playing beyond the ’25 season.

Marte, 37 in October, isn’t going to find the same kind of lucrative multi-year deal in free agency that he did when he signed a four-year, $78MM contract with the Mets, but he’s hitting well enough that he should still command a major league contract. Marte’s once-plus speed has faded, and he’s now in just the 29th percentile of big leaguers for sprint speed, per Statcast, but his arm strength still grades out quite well. Another limited outfield role with frequent DH work would make sense for him moving forward, even if it’s with another team.

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  1. Old York

    2 months ago

    Well, I hate to say I told you so but I was right about Senga. He was overperforming and it caught up to him.

    mlbtraderumors.com/2025/06/mets-to-place-kodai-sen…

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    • Miken31

      2 months ago

      Old York:

      OK, but to be fair, he has had a track record of success before. Although limited based on a shorter career in the majors. He was overperforming, but as the article stated, not to this extent. What’s more likely is that he didn’t pitch at all last year and pitching all these innings has probably created some fatigue. Plus he really hasn’t been right since the hamstring injury. Look at the numbers before and after that injury.

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    • rct

      2 months ago

      You called him a “below league average pitcher”, which is wrong, so maybe you should wait before taking a victory lap.

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      • Old York

        2 months ago

        @rct

        Yes, I’m stating a fact. You’re stating your emotional opinion. But, I know you’re just a basic fan of one team and wouldn’t understand the difference.

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        • Weasel 3

          2 months ago

          Okay that’s just stupid comment. He has 2.0 WAR right now including his struggles. He may have been overachieving, but “below average” is definitively wrong unless you have a better metric than WAR. And while WAR is imperfect, your tone is simply offensive. Yuck.

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        • Kermit The Frog

          2 months ago

          What else do you expect from a weak mind? Anyone who uses an insult to defend a point, rather than a fact is both weak,,, .and always wrong. Old York knows he’s wrong. He doesn’t want to admit it.

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @Weasel 3

          Incorrect.. His SIERA is way below the league average.

          I don’t really look at one stat and draw conclusions. SIERA is the best overall predictor of future ERA and second best is GBkwERA. Now, I’m pretty sure, you’ve never heard of either one of those but with an ERA of 3.02 and a SIERA of 4.51, he’s overperforming, even given his GB tendencies. However, that GB% is only a few ticks higher than the league average so it’s not like he’s a heavy GB pitcher. GBkwERA pegs him at 3.88, which puts a heavier influence of GB in his performance and still, fairly high for a so-called GB pitcher. He’s even getting hit harder than league average (40% vs. league average of 32%).

          Senga’s performance is inflated by luck. The advanced metrics (SIERA, kwERA, GBkwERA, hard-hit%) all agree he’s a ~4.00 ERA pitcher, not the ace his ERA suggests. Calling him “below league average” is defensible because his skill indicators place him outside the top tier of starters, and regression is likely to catch up.

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @Kermit The Frog

          I’m sorry that facts and data get in the way of your narrative…

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        • padam

          2 months ago

          Predictor of future ERA as opposed to a factual statistic – the actual ERA. Predictive analytics doesn’t play in this conversation, for this particular year.

          Amateur.

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @padam

          Actually, SIERA is the best predictor so far and we’ve seen that the regression happened, despite earlier in the season with his shiny 1+ ERA. It’s pretty bad when people are scraping the bottom of the barrel to defend this guy. You failed…

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        • Busty Poser

          2 months ago

          You seem fun

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        • Steinbrenner2728

          2 months ago

          I never got or pinpointed Old York’s character on who he tries to satirize as, but it’s getting very stale.

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        • Bill M

          2 months ago

          Mute button comes in handy

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        • rct

          2 months ago

          “Yes, I’m stating a fact.”

          Your *opinion* that he’s a “below league average pitcher” is NOT a fact. It’s your opinion. The actual facts, ie, his stats, do not support your opinion. You cherry-picked a couple of advanced stats because you already made up your mind (while accusing *me* of forming an emotional opinion; every accusation is an admission). Some pitchers consistently out perform certain predictive stats. Senga has a career 137 ERA+ and over 10 K/9. If you think that is below league average, then you don’t really follow the sport. Also, please learn the difference between fact and opinion.

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @Steinbrenner2728

          I’m not trying to be someone else. But you seem out of touch on most topics so your post above is no surprise.

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @Bill M

          Handy for what? Ignoring facts?

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        • Old York

          2 months ago

          @rct

          Nothing I said was an opinion. It’s all data and facts. Now, you’ve built your argument on emotion.

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  2. YellowCleats

    2 months ago

    Senga has arm fatigue. A period of rest or even tune up in the minors can help otherwise injury is inevitable . Sproat might be called up soon. Holmes is fatigued as well and needs 6 man rotation.

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  3. 10centBeerNight

    2 months ago

    4 regular season starts left for these gentlemen. Gut check time.

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  4. deweybelongsinthehall

    2 months ago

    Can Marte play first? It would enhance his opportunities even as a back up.

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    • AHH-Rox

      2 months ago

      Of course he could play first. It’s easy. Tell him, Wash.

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    • Soto should bat first.

      2 months ago

      He’s never played infield.

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    • Bill M

      2 months ago

      His playing time at first base would be about zero, even as a backup.

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        2 months ago

        Alonso hasn’t missed a game in two years. Vientos is playing before Marte. Saying about zero is being kind.

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  5. Starryl Drawberry

    2 months ago

    This is definitely not the Mets front office of previous years. In the case of Senga possibly getting optioned, I really applaud that they’re playing the people who are performing best and not just the ones who have the biggest names. Given that he’s about to get embarrassed with a demotion to the minors, maybe Senga will get frustrated with the Mets and opt out this off-season. Considering it seems he can only pitch well when he’s feeling absolutely perfect, it might be addition by subtraction… and given how crazy the pitching market is, Senga might just come out ahead anyway even with his struggles in the second half.

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  6. carlos15

    2 months ago

    The rotation is atrocious outside of McLean. Senga has been terrible, Holmes can barely get through 4 innings. Peterson has been terrible lately and Manaea is unwatchable. The bullpen has 2 valuable arms.

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    • Miken31

      2 months ago

      carlos15:

      But all these guys have a track record of success, even as recent as this season. They don’t have much time left, but there’s certainly reason believe they can get it turned around. Not to mention Jonah Tong is still a wild card in all of this. Don’t let recency bias completely alter your opinion.

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  7. bbgods

    2 months ago

    I would try using Senga and Manaea in tandem in the 5th rotation slot. McLean, Peterson, Tong, and Holmes ahead of them.

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    • Mets Era Thumping Soto

      2 months ago

      Holmes needs to go to the bullpen too. He isn’t starting a playoff game. Get his arm back to being a reliever now and call up Sproat.

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      • padam

        2 months ago

        I 100% agree with this and was going to say the same. Or worst case extend to 6 to preserve those that are pitching well for the playoffs. A bit of competition.

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  8. bbgods

    2 months ago

    Marte has been surprisingly good this year. I hope he signs with the Pirates to finish his career along with McCutcheon.

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  9. LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedAgain&Again&AgainFireStearns

    2 months ago

    Senga needs everything to be perfect in order for him to pitch well. There has probably been something off about his delivery or something hasn’t felt 100% right that is causing him to pitch bad

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  10. YellowCleats

    2 months ago

    Senga cannot pitch in cool or cold weather even when healthy. It is an issue. If his other pitches are not competitive and he falls behind in the count, the “ghost fork” becomes useless because hitters can lay off the fork ball. He needs his catcher of the day to recognize what pitch is working that day and call a game according to that. Peterson will be fine. Holmes can be a bullpen asset in the playoffs if mclean, tong, Peterson, and either menaea/Senga can hold down the rotation. What if Peterson and Holmes get rested by skipping a start each and use Sproat to help them. The Cincinnati series is huge because winning NL east seems tough unless Phillies get in trouble within wheeler but wildcard is doable. In the playoffs the Mets can be dangerous.

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    • Miken31

      2 months ago

      YellowCleats:

      Are there stats to support this? I’m not aware of Senga having any issues in cool or cold weather.

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      • YellowCleats

        2 months ago

        Kodai Senga’s Performance in Games with Temperatures of 70°F or Lower
        Based on a comprehensive review of Kodai Senga’s MLB game logs from 2023 to 2025 (his only seasons with the New York Mets, as he debuted in 2023), Analyzing each start for game-time temperature at first pitch. Weather data was cross-referenced from historical records on sites like Baseball-Reference, MLB.com, and weather archives (e.g., via Weather Underground and local reports for stadiums). Senga has made 44 starts in this period, but only 8 occurred when the temperature was 70°F (21°C) or lower. These tend to be early-season or night games in cooler climates, particularly in April-May or at northern venues like Citi Field (New York) or away in Oakland, Boston, or Washington D.C.
        Senga’s overall career stats are strong (20-12 record, 2.89 ERA, 314 K in 320 IP through 2025), but his performance in cooler conditions (≤70°F) shows a slight dip compared to warmer games. This could be due to factors like reduced grip on the baseball in cooler air (affecting his “ghost fork” splitter) or early-season rust, though the sample is small (46.2 IP). He still posts a solid K/9 rate but allows more hits and walks, leading to a higher ERA and WHIP. Below is a summary, followed by the full list of qualifying games and aggregate stats.

        Key Aggregate Stats in Games ≤70°F
        • Record: 3-3 (no-decisions in 2 starts)
        • Innings Pitched (IP): 46.2
        • Earned Run Average (ERA): 3.86
        • Walks + Hits per Inning Pitched (WHIP): 1.29
        • Strikeouts (K): 52 (10.1 K/9, strong but slightly below his career 11.3 K/9)
        • Walks (BB): 25 (4.8 BB/9, higher than career 3.2 BB/9)
        • Hits Allowed (H): 43 (.234 opponent BA)
        • Home Runs Allowed (HR): 3 (0.6 HR/9)
        • Earned Runs Allowed (ER): 20
        • Other Notes: Opponents’ OPS: .678. Senga allowed 4 HR in warmer games during the same period but had better command overall. His forkball whiff rate (per Statcast) was ~55% in these starts, down from ~60% career, possibly due to cooler temps affecting spin/movement.
        For context, in his 36 starts with temperatures >70°F, Senga has a 2.68 ERA and 1.15 WHIP over 273.1 IP with 262 K—clearly better, but cooler games represent only ~18% of his starts, so this isn’t a major red flag.

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        • YellowCleats

          2 months ago

          Key Aggregate Stats in Games ≤65°F
          • Record: 2-2 (no-decision in 1 start)
          • Innings Pitched (IP): 29.2
          • Earned Run Average (ERA): 4.25
          • Walks + Hits per Inning Pitched (WHIP): 1.35
          • Strikeouts (K): 34 (10.3 K/9, close to career 11.3 K/9)
          • Walks (BB): 15 (4.6 BB/9, higher than career 3.2 BB/9)

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        • YellowCleats

          2 months ago

          Kodai Senga could get hit hard in cold October citi field playoff games.

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        • Miken31

          2 months ago

          YellowCleats:

          This is amazing research and I commend you for it, but isn’t the sample size too small to really make any conclusions? Again awesome amount of research you did there. He pitched in Japan for many years obviously. I’m not sure what the data might’ve indicated there.

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        • YellowCleats

          2 months ago

          Same sample size indeed. Always hard to draw firm conclusions. Not taking any Japanese data into account because playing in nippon league seems different than MLB. At least food for thought….

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        • YellowCleats

          2 months ago

          I wish Steve cohen owned the Mets when citi field was built because he would be able to afford the extra $ to have a retractable roof and climate control.

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        • Miken31

          2 months ago

          YellowCleats:

          Yeah, I wouldn’t translate the Japanese statistics to the MLB statistics. I just meant if there was any correlation in terms of him pitching poorly or not in cold weather in the Japanese league. It would be a much bigger sample size.

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  11. mattymets

    2 months ago

    By all accounts, Marte is a great clubhouse guy too. He’s also Soto’s buddy.

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