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Astros, Rays Have Discussed Shane Baz

By Anthony Franco | December 8, 2025 at 7:34pm CDT

The Astros and Rays have had conversations involving Tampa Bay starter Shane Baz, report Chandler Rome and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. There’s no indication that a deal is close to fruition, nor is it a lock that the Rays trade him at all. Baz is presumably one of a number of targets for a Houston team that is trying to add a starter — ideally via trade, given their payroll constraints.

Baz, 26, would fit the bill from an affordability perspective. He’s in his second of four trips through the arbitration process, but early-career injuries kept him from accruing significant earnings in year one. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects him for a modest $3.1MM sum next season, and he’s under club control through 2028.

A first-round pick out of high school by the Pirates in 2017, Baz was traded to Tampa Bay in the lopsided Chris Archer deal a year later. The 6’3″ righty developed into one of the sport’s top pitching prospects but has yet to reach the mid-rotation or better ceiling for which he was lauded. He dealt with multiple elbow issues over the early part of his MLB career. Those culminated in September 2022 Tommy John surgery. He missed the following season and spent some time in Triple-A in ’24, so he didn’t return to Kevin Cash’s rotation until around the All-Star Break that year.

Baz turned in a 3.06 earned run average across 14 starts down the stretch. That was aided by a .229 average on balls in play that papered over league average strikeout and walk numbers. The results swung in the opposite direction this year. Baz held a rotation spot all season and made 31 starts, but he surrendered 4.87 earned runs per nine. His strikeout rate actually climbed three percentage points to a solid 24.8% clip, but a spike in the BABIP and an uptick in home runs led to much worse overall results.

Despite the uneven year, Baz would have a lot of trade value. Controllable starting pitching is very difficult to acquire. That’s especially true when it’s a former top prospect who averages 97 MPH on his fastball. Baz has a four-pitch mix and did a solid job handling left-handed hitters. His command isn’t elite but close enough to league average to stick as a starter. He has so far been held back by a lack of start-to-start consistency. Baz allowed one run or fewer 10 times (including seven scoreless appearances) but also had 10 outings in which he gave up five or more runs.

Tampa Bay is under no pressure to trade Baz, but they tend to be open to conversations on almost anyone on the roster. There’d be some parallels to last summer’s deadline deal in which they shipped Taj Bradley to Minnesota (though he’d fallen far enough in their view that they’d optioned him to Triple-A shortly before trading him). They swapped Bradley for a controllable high-leverage reliever in Griffin Jax and would presumably want to build a Baz return mostly around MLB pieces as well.

The Astros have one of the weakest farm systems in the game. Speaking broadly about the team’s trade conversations, general manager Dana Brown acknowledged to The Athletic that opposing clubs have focused more on their big league roster. Center fielder Jake Meyers is reportedly available in talks for a starter.

While there’s no firm indication that Meyers is a target for the Rays specifically, he’d make sense given their outfield questions. Tampa Bay did sign Cedric Mullins to a one-year deal last week, but he could factor into an uncertain corner outfield mix if the Rays acquired a superior defender in Meyers. It’s unlikely that Tampa Bay would agree to a one-for-one swap given the scarcity of starting pitching, however. Rome and Rosenthal report that the Rays like High-A pitching prospect Anderson Brito, who could be a secondary piece in a larger deal.

The Astros are expected to lose Framber Valdez, leaving them with plenty of questions behind ace Hunter Brown. They’ll slot Cristian Javier in the mix and have the likes of Spencer Arrighetti, AJ Blubaugh, Jason Alexander, Ryan Weiss, Nate Pearson and Lance McCullers Jr. competing for spots. It’s not nearly deep enough for a team that intends to compete for the AL West title.

Houston has been linked to some free agent possibilities (Ranger Suárez, most notably). They’re reportedly reluctant to surpass the $244MM luxury tax line, though, and RosterResource has them less than $25MM from the threshold. They could also use a left-handed hitting utility infielder and a backup catcher, and they’ll want to keep some payroll space aside for midseason additions. That might inhibit their ability to add a mid-rotation arm in free agency. Relatedly, Brown told reporters (including Rome) this evening that the club would prefer not to sign a free agent who rejected a qualifying offer and would cost them draft compensation. That lists includes Suárez, Michael King and Zac Gallen.

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  1. theporcupine

    1 month ago

    I can not fathom how the Astros would be able to pry Baz away. They don’t have the prospects.

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    • ChetLemonaid

      1 month ago

      My initial thought as well.

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      1 month ago

      The Astros have several guys that are near major league ready; Shea Whitcomb, Zach Dezenzo, Jacob Melton. Also they’ve been dangling Jake Myers.

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        Whitcomb is worth nothing, if he was, it would be as a low level cost. And everyone you said have made MLB debut.

        Actually, what about Meyers, Melton, Brito, and Sanchez, if that’s not enough tell me what is.

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        • Gho5tRUN3R

          1 month ago

          Hard to say Whitcomb is worth nothing since he’s one of their top prospects.. He got a couple of looks last year but he never got any consistent playing time and just rode the bench until he was sent back down again.

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        • vtadave

          1 month ago

          He’s 27. Little, if any value. Astros don’t have much of a system

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        • noquarter89

          1 month ago

          He’s not one of their top prospects. He’s never been higher than like the 20s in their prospect rankings and he wasn’t ranked at all this year. He’s a warm body.

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      • noquarter89

        1 month ago

        As an Astros fan, please stop selling Whitcomb. He’s a non-prospect warm body. We aren’t getting a bag of balls for him.

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      • mp2891

        1 month ago

        Yuck, yuck and triple yuck. If the Rays trade Baz for that collection of players, I’ll probably need to take the rest of the year off as a Rays fan. The RFO can’t possibly be that stupid.

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        • Astros_fan_in_Aus

          1 month ago

          All fans overrate their team’s players, I get that, but really a straight swap of Meyers for Baz would be about right. Talk of trading Baz for “a package” is just ridiculous.

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          You’re not very knowledgeable about trade value if you believe Meyers for Baz is fair. Meyers is a career 91 wRC+ bat who averages about 1.3 fWAR per year. Whoop-Dee-Frigging Doo. Baz just pitched a 2 fWAR season with a 3.85 xERA, while pitching half his games at the windy minor league Steinbrenner stadium that inflated his overall stats. Look at his away stats last year and picture him pitching in a MLB dome next year instead of Steinbrenner and it’s easy to see a 3-5 fWAR pitcher next year. Baz is expected to make only $3.1 million in arbitration next year (1 of 3 remaining years of control), so well over $10 million in surplus value in 2026 alone if someone like Soroka is worth $7.5 million. In contrast, the Rays just signed C.Mullins for $7MM and he’s better than Meyers, and Meyers is expected to be awarded $3.5 million in arbitration, so Meyers probably has less than $3.5 million in surplus value this year (and perhaps no surplus value next year in his final year of control). Sorry, but Meyers alone isn’t getting 1 year of Baz, let alone 3, and the Rays have no need for Meyers anyway with Mullins under contract.

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    • rct

      1 month ago

      Baz starts per season dating back to 2017: 10, 12, 18, 0 (2020), 20, 10, 0, 24, 31. Is he finally healthy?

      Also his success in 2024 was a bit of a mirage due to his .229 BABIP. FIP in 2024 and 2025 was 4.07 and 4.37. Good not great.

      Still, it’s several years of control for a guy with good stuff. If I’m the Rays and the Astros offer a good package, I’d trade Baz without much hesitating.

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      • mp2891

        1 month ago

        Rays fan here – Baz could be headed for a true break out year in 2026. Check out his Away stats last year and his 2024 stats, and imagine how good he could be next year a full 2 years away from TJS and pitching at the Trop (a pitcher friendly park) instead of the little league Steinbrenner (a hitter friendly park). I don’t want to see them trade Baz for anything Houston has to offer.

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    • DarkSide830

      1 month ago

      Not sure Baz is worth what he was in earlier times.

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      • mp2891

        1 month ago

        And your point is??? Obviously Baz won’t have the trade value he had with 6 years of control, including 3 as a league minimum salary player. He’s now in his 2nd year of arbitration as a Super 2 player and that detracts from his trade value..

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    • dankyank

      1 month ago

      Perhaps if the Astros built a larger deal around Matthews and Janek they could pry Baz away. That still might not be a wise decision as they would then have the worst farm system in the game.

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        Don’t think Astros will trade Janek.

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        • dankyank

          1 month ago

          I would think he would be more expendable than their other prospects since they already have a good catcher in Yainer Diaz. Plus, the Rays have very little at the position, across all organizational levels

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          No I think it’s the other way around. I think it’s that when Janek comes up, they trade DIAZ.

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        • Astros_fan_in_Aus

          1 month ago

          Agreed

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      • mp2891

        1 month ago

        Matthews strikes out too much. I’d have no interest in him if I were the Rays. Any trade would have to start with Cam Smith and Janek.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          Cam Smith is worth more than Shane Baz. Fans overvalue their players, and where I sometimes do overvaule Astro players, you are seriously overvaluing Baz.

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          No he isn’t. Cam Smith was exposed last year (41 wRC+ in the 2nd half) and the Astros have said he’s likely starting the year in the minors. Baz is a mid-rotation pitcher with upside who is making $3MM next year. There’s a ton more value in Baz than Smith. Check out BTV if you’re curious about impartial trade values.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          Then I’ll tell you this, the Astros won’t trade Cam Smith, they will try to develop him into a star.

          The End.

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          That’s fine. I don’t want the Rays to trade Baz.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          If you don’t, you don’t. You don’t have to and you are also perfectly entitled to an opinion.

          However, the decision is on the GM’s. If the Rays asking price is as you say, I’d rather have Astros say no. That’s my opinion,

          We will have to see what our GM’s do.

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    • Player Formly known as Logjammer D'Baggagecling

      1 month ago

      3 piece meal (drink not included) from Houston’s Hot Chicken to TB for Shane Baz and whatever food is most popular in Tampa Bay. Maybe crab cakes.

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    • Rays in the Bay

      1 month ago

      Don’t underestimate the lack of scouting on the Rays. They traded for Morel and Houser and have signed what seems like thousands of OFs and have kept Walls on the roster. If the Rays like someone (which usually flame out or crashes), then they will overpay for them.

      In general you are right but I’ve seen so many bad moves by the Rays Front Office that I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Baz for another OF or C

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  2. Astros71

    1 month ago

    Rather you trade Ullola over Brito. Based on what this article says, what about.

    Astros Get:
    RHP Shane Baz
    Rays Get:
    CF Jake Meyers
    RHP Anderson Brito
    C Jase Mitchell
    RHP Miguel Ullola

    Can you build around something like that?

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 month ago

      Jacob melton would probably be in the trade

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        Yeah. I would be okay for Melton going in this sort of trade.

        Meyers, Melton, Brito/Ullola, and Sanchez

        What do you think about it?

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          As a Rays fan I have no interest.

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    • mcmannes

      1 month ago

      Yeah, our TOP young arms for a dude with elbow problems.

      Why not just throwing a starting centerfielder as well… Oh yeah, you did. 🤦‍♂️

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      • Mega Man

        1 month ago

        What team are you a fan of? If it’s Houston what top arms are there? Ethan Pecko looks like the best and he’s still a few years away.

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    • yankeejim

      1 month ago

      Stupid trade idea. Astros have 5 teams showing interest in Myers, so no way they trade him, 2 of their top prospects and Sanchez for a 4th starter. Dream on!

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      • Astros_fan_in_Aus

        1 month ago

        The Rays fans on here appear to be a bit overexcited about Baz and his abilities. He is very much a #4 or #5 pitcher.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          The Ray fans just don’t want him to be traded

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    • mp2891

      1 month ago

      Not a chance. Meyers is just another sub 100-wRC+ bat in the outfield, which the Rays have plenty of, and he only has 2 years of control remaining. Very little on-the-field value there, and not enough trade value to headline the deal. Brito, Mitchell and Ullola are all replacement level prospect types with little trade value. Rays easily say no.

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  3. pirates_curry

    1 month ago

    Give us back our baz

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    • Astros71

      1 month ago

      Don’t you need starting pitching?

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        I meant offense not starting pitching. I had my mind elsewhere.

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    • panj341

      1 month ago

      Work some kind of 3 team deal where we get him back to replace Keller.

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        What’s done is done.

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  4. Mehmehmeh

    1 month ago

    Would be interesting the see since Baz is a local product of the Houston area.

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  5. Astros71

    1 month ago

    What’s plus? Doubt Astros will deal that many pitching prospects, especially Forcucci (a player with first round buzz).

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  6. Astros71

    1 month ago

    That’s the problem with Brito, he’s only at A. And I also think the Astros would rather deal Ullola. Don’t think the Astros will deal 3 outfielders.

    I think Meyers, Melton, Ullola, Bush, and another guy should do.

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  7. Macbeth

    1 month ago

    If the Flyers mascot was a real person.

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  8. Astros71

    1 month ago

    My Mock Trade: Ullola, Melton, Bush, Meyers, Jose Fleury (if surivives Rule 5), if not, we’ll see.

    ChatGPT:
    1. Jacob Melton, Miguel Ullola, Zach Dezenzo
    2. Cam Smith, Issac Parades, and Spencer Arrighetti
    3. Bryan Abreu, Cam Smith, Lottery Ticket
    (#2 is the most realistic according to ChatGPT)

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    • Mega Man

      1 month ago

      Astros would laugh at 2 or 3. No chance in hell they sell Parades, Cam Smith or Abreu that cheap

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      • yankeejim

        1 month ago

        They’ll laugh at all 3. Way too much for an oft injured #4 who has exceeded 20 starts only once!

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          I always love the argument Yankeejim is making. Astros want Baz because they recognize he’s pretty good, with untapped potential, and he makes nothing in salary and still has 3 years of control. Astros fans say “yeah, but that should only be worth a couple guys at the bottom of the top 30 list. You got to pay value to get value. For every “Baz is an oft injured #4”, I’ll give you a “Cam Smith was badly exposed in 2025 and might be a bust” rebuttal. In truth, neither is true at this point in either player’s career. By the way, Baz has only had 1 injury to my knowledge since the Rays acquired him in 2018. It cost him the majority of his first full ML season, all of his second, and a portion of his third season (ie: a full 2 years of calendar time) That’s why he hasn’t exceeded 20 starts more than once (though if you include his minor league career he has).

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          I’m sure he has more than 1 injury. I think they will take #1, but not 2 and 3. #1 can be worked out but Astros instantly decline #2 and #3.

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  9. The Big Yo

    1 month ago

    Win now because the Las Vegas A’s (if they find some pitching) have a solid 5 year domination on the way

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  10. Baseball trade conspiracies

    1 month ago

    Astros are better off going after the pirates mitch keller

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    • mp2891

      1 month ago

      Why aren’t they? Keller should be cheaper to acquire.

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      • Astros71

        1 month ago

        And Keller is a #3 starter. Astros need #2, they think Baz is No. 2

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        • mp2891

          1 month ago

          A number 2 starter making $3 million should be worth a lot more than C.Smith. I’m not following the logic of your prior comments if you think the Astros think Baz is a #2.

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        • Astros71

          1 month ago

          Cam Smith is a developing player with star potential with 5 control years left versus a solid starter with 3. Who is more valuable?

          I think a 1-1 swap of Diaz and Baz is the most realistic. Diaz is entering his first of 3 Arb years and has the same amount of control as Baz. Both Diaz and Baz types are hard to find so what do you think about a straight up swap.

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  11. CarryABigStick

    1 month ago

    If Nate Pearson is the answer, I’d rather not know the question.

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    • Astros71

      1 month ago

      Pearson=Spot Starter/Long Reliever

      Reply

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