The Mets and Padres have been discussing the possibility of a trade that would send established talent to New York while San Diego obtained MLB-ready younger talent and some salary relief. According to The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, Dennis Lin, and Will Sammon, right-hander Nick Pivetta, outfielder Ramon Laureano, and star relievers Mason Miller, Adrian Morejon and Jeremiah Estrada are players of interest for New York. The Padres have shown interest in the Mets’ “young major leaguers and all of their top prospects, both pitchers and position players,” including Nolan McLean, Brandon Sproat, and Jonah Tong.
The Athletic’s reporters made a point of noting that Francisco Lindor, Fernando Tatis Jr. and Jake Cronenworth weren’t brought up in these negotiations. This only somewhat lessens the blockbuster potential here given all of the high-profile names already under discussion, though it is also possible that the talks remain somewhat exploratory in nature. As Rosenthal/Lin/Sammon note, San Diego president of baseball operations A.J. Preller is always “weighing a dizzying number of possible moves and contingency plans,” and Mets PBO David Stearns is likewise no stranger to major trade concepts.
Pivetta’s name surfaced in trade rumors earlier this week, and Preller recently downplayed the idea that the Padres would trade any of their top bullpen arms. San Diego had an elite relief corps in 2025, but one major name from that group is already gone since closer Robert Suarez left for the Braves in free agency. The depleted nature of the Friars’ rotation also puts more pressure on the bullpen to pick up more of the run-prevention slack, and by that same token, makes it seemingly less likely that the Padres would trade Pivetta and further diminish the starting staff.
That said, Pivetta can opt out of his contract following the 2026 season. The backloaded four-year, $55MM contract Pivetta signed last season still has $51MM remaining, which breaks down as $19MM in 2026, a $14MM player option for 2027, and an $18MM player option for 2028 if Pivetta chooses to remain in San Diego next winter. The 2027 player option turns into a club option in the event of a long-term injury, but if Pivetta has the same kind of healthy and very effective season that he posted in 2025, he’ll surely trigger his opt-out.
If Preller could turn Pivetta into multiple controllable players who can still help the Padres win in 2026, that would be quite a way of threading the needle for the long-time executive. The Mets wouldn’t have much interest in giving up one of their top young talents for what might well be just one year of Pivetta’s services, and McLean might not be available at any price — the Athletic trio write that “McLean is thought to be untouchable, or close to it.” The New York Post’s Jon Heyman adds that outfield prospect Carson Benge is also considered to be virtually unavailable in trade talks.
By comparison, the likes of Tong, Sproat, and Jett Williams may be more available, though Stearns has been naturally hesitant about trading away any top minor leaguers. A trade package of Pivetta, Laureano as a short-term outfield add for 2026, and a reliever with four seasons of control like Miller or Estrada might well convince Stearns to part ways with some premium prospect talent, but on the other hand, that would be a lot for the Padres to move in a single trade.
The Athletic’s writers note that the Padres might get a greater overall return by sending Pivetta, Laureano, etc. elsewhere in individual deals, so it would take a gigantic trade package for the club to include multiple trade chips into a single swap. For Miller in particular, San Diego would want a ton back, given how much the Padres had to give up to land the closer from the A’s just last July.
Getting Pivetta’s salary off the books is one way for the Padres to shake up the roster given the team’s limited payroll flexibility, while short-term commitments to Pivetta and Laureano probably hold more appeal to Stearns than signing free agents to longer-term contracts. The sky is the limit when two creative executives like Preller and Stearns are cooking up trade scenarios, so this is certainly a situation worth monitoring as the offseason progresses.

This is a joke, right?
Mets are goin for it again!!!
I cant speak to the other 29 teams bec i even tho i follow mlb closely, i’ve never been a fan of any tm except mets so i dont know the intimate details of those other front offices and fanbases. but my experience as a mets fan for 30 years is that this organization perhaps more than any other takes note of all the right moves to make, all the sensible things to do, all the signings/trades that are logical and correct, and then take those notes, throw them away, and do the exact opposite. they are literally living and existing in another universe. it doesnt matter who owns the tm. it doesnt matter who runs the tm. it doesnt matter who manages the tm. we are on earth. and the mets are on planet zebulon
Hey now, the Zebulonians are a good people. Don’t get them mixed up with the Mets. They deserve better than that.
chandlerbing: That’s a longwinded way of saying that you’re a troll.
Careful Alfred. lower case chandler muted me for calling him a troll. He said it was “rude.”
LOL!
“Despite variability in ownership, leadership, structure, philosophy and results nothing has ever made sense to me. I’ve tried for 30 years but I haven’t been able to understand anything to the point where I might be an alien. Clearly this is the Mets fault.”
-Chandler Bing
@Alfred: Not only is he a troll, he’s lying. He spends all day, every day trashing the Mets and now he’s claiming to have been a Mets fan for 30 years. Ridiculous.
@NashvilleJeff he should just mute everyone.
I remember you posting the exact same thing when they signed Soto and when they broke the closer AAV record to sign Edwin to his previous contract and when they traded for and extended Lindor and when …
Yes; you should be the gm i guess; thats what we are missing. Stearns has a plan; strap on your seatbelt and get ready, because hes smarter than us both; and wants a WS as much as we do
Shows they’re biggest mistake was letting George Costanza slip through their fingers. This approach fit in well with his life philosophy.
You are easily the most sensible poster on this thread.
@davroz
if you’re talking about me, its just about being reasonable, sane, and honest. every met fan who defends their absurd moves, every met fan who tries to put a positive spin on things is just lying to themselves and gaslighting everyone else into thinking there’s nothing wrong with the organization. every thing is wrong. passionate, loyal fan for 30 years. and im just at the point where the marriage between us has lost the love and trust, and im tired of being disappointed year after year. its time for a divorce. and im honest enough to admit that. all the other met fans are living in a fantasy world, and simply lying to themselves. i dont wanna burst that bubble for them. let all the other mets fans continue to live in the fantasy. i have the ability to be transparent with myself. mayb some day other met fans can do themselves the favor of looking at reality and being honest with themselves too
You’re spot on. Too many fans just can’t hear any criticism of their team without getting defensive.
And when spring has sprung and the first crack of the bat has rung you’ll be there with your peanuts and crackerjack ready to run it back
Agreed. We are on earth.
This is actually a hinge point in baseball strategy. The Mets are in the process of compiling a 5-man closer rotation. Up until this point, a 4- or 5-man starting rotation had been the focal point of the pitching staff. The Mets are playing 4D Hungry Hungry Hippos, and everyone else is playing checkers.
55 BURGERS 55 FRIES 55 TACOS 55 PIES
55 COKES 100 TATER TOTS 100 POLANCO
100 TENDERS 100 MEATBALLS 100
COFFEES 55 WINGS 55 SHAKES 55
PANCAKES 55 PASTAS 55 STARTERS AND
155 CLOSERS
This guy’s trying to start a pay-it-forward chain!
If you think that’s funny or witty, it’s not.
Are you sure?
If we assume that the readers are not drunk and over the age of 12, yes.
Are really you sure?
Its a Rosenthal, same thing
It’s a rumor from Ken Rosenthal, so yes, it’s a joke—much like everything else you see with his byline these days.
The Mets and Padres have essentially the same needs: starting pitching and power at first base. Any trade involving only those two teams makes no sense; it would require a third team to be involved.
This is either a real investment from Steve Cohen or a bluff.
Either way, the Mets need to catch up with Philly and Atlanta this offseason.
No they don’t if they take a year to regroup strategize and let their farm mature another year that would be a lot better than tryna to keep up with others by making panic moves.
We’re not carrying all these infielders by opening day. Stearns made the smart move by letting Alonso walk, Diaz was a surprise, but the Mets are not done. Somethings brewing.
Why is making a move “panic” for the Mets and other teams making moves isn’t?
Because other teams didn’t lose Nimmo, Diaz and Alonso with rumors swirling of clubhouse cancers still there.
This is not Milwaukee. There are expectations.
I said “panic moves” not just moves. Example- trading top prospects for 1 year rentals that don’t move the needle much as this rumor is suggesting.
Agreed. Mets prob likely better off this year seeing what they have (or don’t) with the kids and accelerating a youth movement to complement Soto down the road and to beat ATL and (especially) PHI to the punch. Both ATL and PHI are kidding themselves in trying to squeeze another meaningful postseason run out of those squads.
Phillies, sure. Braves, no.
Keep up?
It’s mid-December, young grasshopper. Plenty of offseason left.
The Braves are the only team to improve this off season. By comparison, the Phillies retained Schwarber, but still need replacements for Realmuto, Suarez, and Bader plus all the bullpen arms they’re losing.
They’re not really l losing any significant bullpen pieces.
YankeesBleacherCreature: The Phillies haven’t won much of significance in the recent past either.
The Phillies went to a World Series, which is significant.
@Yankees: Even w/all their devastating injuries, the Braves had an 8-5 W/L record vs the Mets in 2025. Expected healthy seasons from the recovered Acuna, Riley, Murphy, and Strider and the decent adds they’ve made already in the off season hasn’t made them worse than the Mets. Can’t say the same about the Mets moves so far unless you believe they’ve gotten better by subtraction. Agree that the off season isn’t over—-for either of them.
Mets lost Manea, Montas, Minter, Senga, Alvarez, almost their entire bullpen.
And sadly that was a positive.
Montas..LoL
NashvilleJeff: Is opening day next week and the offseason over? Didn’t think so.
Who said it was?
@YBC: imo, the Mets are behind the Braves right now (obviously behind Philly, too). Braves struggled last year but not for a lack of talent. They were decimated by injuries. Just getting healthy makes them much better.
rct: Nobody’s behind anybody in December.
@Alfred: I know. I said “right now”. As in, if the season were to start today. Plenty of time left in the offseason.
Don’t sleep on the Marlins. They could shock the World! Miami has a large supply of hungry young ball players that had a winning record in 2025’s second half.
Cohen and Stearns are desperate lol
I don’t think so but who am I? I think if the Mets wanted to keep the players they lost they’d still be there. They have to retool but they ended up right around .500 last year even though those guys weren’t the problem. They’ll do something.
Better to say they ended up right around .500 in 2024 because Stearns froze as soon as ST began.
Manaea out for months on Feb 17, Montas out for months on Feb 24, Blackburn out for months as of late March?—Stearns: “nah, I’m good.”
Senga out on June 12, Megill on June 14, Canning on June 26?—“nah, I’m good.”
You know McLean has been pitching like an ace in AAA?—“nah, I’m good.”
You know there are solid SPs available at the Deadline for what you’re paying for relievers?—“nah, I’m good.”
Miss the postseason by a game?—“Break up the core!”
The worst season I’ve seen from a GM or POBO since the White Sox White Flag surrender in 1997.
JackStrawb: Biggest piece of hyperbole I’ve seen since Trump’s last Truth Social post.
@Alfred: JackStrawb is another Mets-hating troll who pretends they’re a Mets fan. I don’t know what it is about the Mets that attracts these people.
It’s the nature of social media.
What? That Truth Social post was the best hyperbole in the history of hyperboles! I had hyperbole experts coming up to me saying, “That might be the greatest bit of hyperbole of any president at any time!!!” Tremendous hyperbolic achievement.
Are you still burdened by what has been lol
This time you’re quite right. Mr. Strawb makes believe he knows what the price was for “solid” starting pitchers at the trade deadline. Stearns actually did a lot at the trade deadline. No one could have predicted that Helsley would be that bad. Mullins had been pretty good the last couple of months with the Os before they got him. Soto and Tyler Rogers were decent. But why would Mr. Strawb let reality interfere with his diatribe?
Joel from NY: Not to mention condemning on the basis of 20/20 hindsight.
Sounds like linking random names to the same team hoping for a story
McLean CAN NOT be in ANY trade packages. OR Carson Benge. The others, Sproat, Tong, Reimer, Williams…ok.
McLean 100% can not be involved in any trade.
I’d also be inclined to keep tong.
Sproat and one of Jett Williams or benge okay.
Not sure why pads would want to trade Miller already though. That contract is a steal, so they must be schooling Stearns in a trade here if he’s up for grabs.
Pivetta would be a nice rotation addition.
I don’t think this about the Padres wanting to move Miller (or anyone else for that matter) and more about Preller trying to fleece a seemingly desperate organization. Any trade will likely be a massive overpay on the Mets part
Interesting. Not sure big Steve is panicking just yet. If I was calling a desperate situation, I’d be going the other way around.
Rsox- agreed! Why in the world would the Mets make this trade? They may be taking all the bad publicity right now, but adding Laureano, Miller and Pivetta to their current roster barely moves the needle, better off playing their kids for free
@Rsox: “trying to fleece a seemingly desperate organization”
For starters, I don’t know why anyone would think the Mets are “desperate” right now on December 13th. But second, in this scenario, the Padres seem like the more desperate team here because they appear to be trying to shed salary.
Third, I don’t know why people think Stearns doesn’t know what he’s doing. How many years did he have the Brewers contending with a fraction of the budget? Did he forget how to run a ball club or something? And are people really saying that Preller knows more about winning than Stearns? Padres have gone to the playoffs four times in the 12 years he’s been GM.
The amount of Goofy on this site is crazy.
I think Stearns did not understand the market changes this year and sort of played the players arrogantly. I think that has bitten him in the buttocks.
I also don’t think he realized how big a crap storm it would be in the media to lose both Diaz and Alonso (I do not believe he wanted Alonso and Nimmo and McNeil back…and it looks like he has soured on Senga…which is stupid).
That said, all is well if he shows he has a plan. We also don’t know if Cohen drew a line this winter as a reaction to last year.
Bottom line: I don’t think he’s clueless other than tone deafness in a NY market.
And for those who say he doesn’t care…he does. It’s a pressure cooker.
I HOPE he doesn’t react with trades for Skubal and even Peralta. They are not good enough to expend prospects on rentals.
That’s why Pivetta, Contreras, Severino types make sense. I thought the Polanco signing makes sense. Devin Williams as well.
Preller is not afraid to trade anyone… Ever.
I believe Preller knows he can get some real players back from Blue Jays for Miller. Pitchers and position players….
Pingston- while I don’t see miller being traded. That would be one heck of a get for the jays.
Yeah right. The Pads are going to give Pivetta and Miller away for your garbage.
Agree. Tong’s stuff is too good to let him go.
I should add, “…unless they can get Mason Miller in return”. Yes, I know it would take more than Tong to get him.
Did you forget to mention Miller? Not a chance in hell Stearns sends those 4 prospects for just Pivetta and Laureano.
It’s a Gapper! Not a chance in hell it ever would be your call to make.
It’s a Gapper! Not a chance in hell I ordered a subscription to your issues. Please cancel it.
@86mets you wouldn’t trade Benge for Miller?
As much as I agree that McLean is untouchable, if he gets you 4 years of Miller and 4 years of Estrada plus Pivetta and Laureano… actually, I still wouldn’t trade him
But Benge for Miller I would do in a heartbeat
There’s no way Mets are making that trade, giving up all those years of controllable arms for pivetta. At that point just sign gallen on a Stearns special 3 year deal
Mets would be better suited just using their financial resources and overspending on talent than giving up talent that’s not controllable is my point
Mets aren’t getting Miller unless they give up a ton, which is why they won’t, and shouldn’t, get him
Lmao, that trade is insane.
Totally agree. McLean looks like he could be next coming of DeGrom or even Seaver. I never said that.
Gapper- sounds good, but why in the world would the Mets make that trade?
Mets aren’t a good team right now
Trading for those guys won’t move the needles enough to make it worth their while
I’d rather keep the prospects and stink next year than give them up only to shoot for 80 wins
@Gapper: That is an insane package of talent for one year of Pivetta and one year of Laureano, who’s never played more than 132 games in a season. If Stearns made that deal he would be fired on the spot.
I wouldn’t trade Tong for this group either.
Unless Miller is involved, Stearns would be stupid to include ANY of Tong, Sproat, Reimer, Williams, Benge, Pena, Ewing.
In fact, to reduce payroll for Preller with rentals he should have lower expectations.
Given his track record, the idea of stearns unloading all the youngins for mid level rentals would really scare me
Pivetta? That’s it what happened to Skubal or Skenes? If SD doesn’t get Mclean shame on them
Skenes is going nowhere and Mets would be stupid to give up all their young talent for a year of Skubal when their current roster construction looks like a 75 win team
Skubal is going to cost a lot and Skenes will cost even more.
Skenes probably costs McLean, Sproat, Tong, Benge, and Williams, if not more
More.
Nobody is getting Mclean for a #2 starter who can opt out next year.
Miller isn’t moving, but something to Pivetta/Laureano/Estrada *could* work, all depending upon an equitable return.
Dunno why Stearns feels the need to leak all that info though…
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Mason Miller could be the Mets #1 starter!
Mason Miller has the most value. Pivetta has an odd contract. Laureano is barely a starter. No idea who Estrada is.
Estrada would be Williams’ set-up guy for 4, 5 years… or wrestle the Closer job from him “soon”
Starter, reliever and outfielder fills some needs for the Mets. Not sure those three push the needle enough for them to not suck. Hehehe.
We can’t help them there, Wade!
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@Gwynning Distraction, if it’s coming from him. Since he doesn’t do emotion, he was probably taken by surprise by fans raging about Alonso and Diaz,
Fair enough Jack!
What do you want for those three, Gwynn?
Gotta kick the tires and see how close that is to McLean, Salzilla… if there are minor parts involved either way, then that’s what I’d do.
I don’t see McLean happening unless Miller is involved and I dont think the Pads should trade him tbh.
Agreed. Then I’d probably pursue Sproat + Megill + something to balance the scales…
@Gwynning You wouldn’t trade Mason Miller for McLean? I don’t think the Mets do this, but if I’m the Padres I’d jump at that
One for one, SoCal? It’s hard to wrap my head around, but I probably would. I’d obviously try to procure him with the Pivetta “trio” for days on end…
Miller is probably a much better starter than MaClean!
It’s weird to assume that Stearns is leaking anything. Every single move the Mets make is a complete surprise and nobody ever sees it coming, including their own beat reporters. That’s been the case since Stearns took over. They probably have the most tight-lipped front office in MLB right now.
You never hear a WORD about ANY HOT RUMORS from AJ, period. Could just be 3 hot-fart sportswriters throwing darts at the wall!
For such matters, I think the sportswriters focus on the people working with and around the AJ Preller’s.
“Mets’ Trade Talks With Padres Involve Nick Pivetta, Ramon Laureano, Mason Miller”
Our very headline.
Not “Padre Trade Talks”… fwiw, Chris.
It’s Rosenthal and Lin making stuff up like normal.
If I’m the Padres, I’m offering something like Laureano, Ornelas, plus for Bubic, Bergert, and India (to help at 2nd if they deal Cronenworth).
Then, trying to get someone like the Yankees or Red Sox in on Cronenworth, Pivetta, and a pen piece to fill in the blanks (LF, 1B).
Duran, a controllable starter, and Casas for Cronenworth, Miller, Pivetta, plus prospects?
Rice, Domínguez, Schlittler for Pivetta, Miller, Morgan, Cronenworth, plus prospects?
No, heck no and **** no, please. No offense.
I don’t know Gwynning…it’d save about 30m, and fill the rotation out, while also getting our LF and 1B, and allowing AJ to sign pieces.
AJ is not interested in saving money. Pads will go into the 2nd or 3rd CBT bracket again.
Laureano/Sheets is our LF platoon; stand pat and we’re fine.
KC has stated they won’t trade Bubic, but they do have reputable Starters. “Could be” a potential partner for Pivetta, but I doubt KC wants to add $19MM.
BOS/NYY/NYM/TOR/BAL could all be legitimate players for Pivetta, but he won’t be deemed a salary dump by anybody involved. Will AJ’s value be met (?) is about the only question.
You clearly didn’t read the top part of my post where I mentioned getting two starters from K.C. for Laureano. The only gapper here seems to be with your reading comprehension.
not a sideways move. Schittler is younger, has more control and costs less.
AJ is freeing up $ to sign two starting pitchers via free agency. My guess it is king and that Japanese pitcher who hates the Dodgers
Guess it depends on what you think of Schlittler. I see him as a potential #1 or #2 starter.
AJ also stated early in the offseason that he wanted more pop, and Rice fills that need. Domínguez is only going to get better…Morgan had a nice 1st year, but I don’t think he continues it. Cronenworth is meh…
Plus it saves about 30m to sign pieces to fill in the blanks.
What’s your proposal?
Schlittler is probably the most valuable major league ready asset the Yankees have. I only want him moved if it means we’re trading for Volpes replacement.
Ron – those two trade ideas make little to no sense. Every GM in mlb isn’t looking to bail AJ out just because they’d like to get Miller (and, I actually like Pivetta probably more than most).
The Red Sox are certainly not bringing back Pivetta and Cronenworth. And Pivetta could possibly be worse than Schlittler.
Is the GME shortsqueeze finally catching up to Cohen’s pocketbook.
They called it the Cohen tax. Turns out that was just his casino and Juan Soto. Stearns gets to make the Mets his Brewers east project
Addendum-Sterns indicated that he might be willing to discuss Mr & Mrs Met as well, though it’s unclear if they’d need to be moved a as tandem.
Trouble in paradise?!
I think Tong / Sproat / Williams would all be of interest to SD. Perhaps Mauricio, or Vientos as well.
Williams could slide in for Cronenworth if they deal him.
Tong/Sproat into the back of the rotation.
Between Pivetta, and Crone, that gives you over 30m to add to the reported 10-20m in current payroll space.
Think they are still hoping they can retain king on a creative deal.
Really doubt they would move Miller without Mclean or Benge at the very least included.
@vpsd I’d be very leery of not giving Tong another year in AAA to polish his breaking stuff, unless the back of your rotation is in tatters.
He looked completely unready for MLB, and saddling the kid with another go-round where (if) he falls apart in MLB could create lingering issues.
we’re currently slated to give starts to kyle hart lol
The author, Lin stated the Padres are expecting a MONSTER return…
Let’s be realistic… Miller alone would net a monster return…
If you take out Miller, Laureano and Pivetta have value, but hardly “give me your top prospects,” value.
Ramón Laureano has been a journeyman over the last few years of his career and had a great season last year, but with ONE year of team control is not going to warrant a huge return.
Pivetta is not all that different being more bad than good for most his career. Always nice stuff, but poor results, and again one year of team control, but with the risky situation if he blows his arm out, you have pay him $32 million over 27 and 28. Pivetta has the ONE season with an ERA under 4.00.
If the Mets deal with the Padres, they are far better off just dealing for the two players who can help in 2026 and forget about overpaying for a relief pitcher to make up for their mistake of letting Diaz walk.
nearly 7 war last year for 25m next year
That’s a lot of surplus even for just 1 year.
If Pivetta “blows his arm out,” that 2027 player option turns into a club option (per the article)—–so the only way they’d “have to pay him $32 million over 27 and 28” would be if they chose to do so.
Nash- adding tha clause in his contract was pretty smart. It does mean he isn’t as risky.
If he just isn’t great and opts in without an arm
Injury his 2/32 isn’t that big of a deal.
Preller! Man of action for sure.
Man of winning nothing
@padreforlife
More winning than the Padres have ever done before, which I presume you know about given you’re “for life”.
Remember the days of Amarista? Owens? Barfield? Which version do you prefer @padrefrorlife?
Almost any other team would have fired him by now. I’ve lost track of how many managers he’s gone through
@Enrico
That might have been true at the end of 2021. That was the time to jettison Preller, if the franchise was going to do it. Only one playoff run in seven years, and that in the shortened 2020 season.
We all know what the team has gone on to do since then as far as continually making the playoffs. “Almost any other team” would be dumb to fire him with the run the franchise has been on. Especially this franchise.
Please dont rebuild SD…ugh.
They have no reason to rebuild.
It’s not a rebuild. This possible trade scenario would be a re-tool to get more controllable talent to extend the Padres’s window to contend. Mets would get MLB- proven talent to win now.
They can’t rebuild. They are retooling.
You can’t do a true rebuild when you have Xander and Manny contacts going through 2033 with no trade clauses. And Tatis through 2034, who you don’t want to trade.
This is a way to move process around to better fit the teams needs. Or plan moving forward. I can’t see this being the only trade Preller makes. There’s just to much off-season left lol.
McLean or any player can be traded in the right deal. If Tigers wanted McLean as part of package for Skubal, he would be included.
For a one year rental? Never. The Pirates on the other hand have a guy…
Hope it’s not true
What exactly are the Mets doing? Hopefully they don’t give up to much young talent.
Good question.
Pete who? Mets train is moving forward. Jump aboard or be left behind. Grumble, grumble….Peeeeeete….good ol’ dayyys.
Pivetta makes them better, but isn’t worth their top prospects. Why trade for Laureno? just sign Bader. Morejon and Estrada are good, but not worth top prospects. All 4 together aren’t worth a ton
Mason Miller is a totally different story, him alone would cost Tong/Sprout and Benge
Just sign Bader
Maybe. Or maybe Bader doesn’t want to sign with the Mets. Maybe they don’t want to invest long term in CF with Bader when they have a top CF prospect
Or maybe the do want to do that and this is part of getting Bader to sign by adding some pressure
But it’s never as easy as “just sign player X”
Master Bader is not anywhere close to being as good as Laureano but keep choking the chicken
Bader is a Royal.
Not a chance Mets give up any top five prospects for Laureano and Pivetta. Maybe Vientos/Acuna, and a few lower ranked pieces (Morabito and Wenninger).
They are bailing Preller out from his overspending ways. That’s 30m off the books. They are both rentals.
Miller, it gets more interesting. Then Sproat, Williams, Reimer and Tong are in play.
Jose Ferrer just netted a ~ top 50 prospect.
Methinks you are prospect hugging without a realization of where the market is.
Not a rental. Under control for 4 years.
The Mets would either have to take big salary dump from San Diego or give up a huge prospect load that will sap the farm system. They should traded away Edwin Diaz and Pete Alonso last year if they weren’t going to sign them with assuredly. Not many people are talking about it, but it is a big blunder by David Stearns to lose Diaz and Alonso without getting trade prospects back of any kind . Could have at least gotten some high ceiling single A ball prospects for them. David Stearns is not the boy wonder that some people painted him to be. The one person who needed to go was the manager, and he was the one person who was kept.
Mets were the top WC team at the trade deadline last season. They weren’t trading away Pete and Diaz then. Be realistic with your hindsight 20/20 at least.
At the trade deadline when they were heading to the playoffs, you wanted them to trade their best power hitter and closer for prospects? Are we Tampa?
I don’t see a trade between these two teams, both in some need of starting pitching, but let’s wait and see.
Might be a third team gets into this. I could see the Red Sox.
One thing I want to say as a Padres fan….NOOOOOO to Casas. Anything else I’m open to – but not Casas.
This is contradicting every post/article implying the padres still trying to compete . This trade proposal on any level would imply the padres throwing in the towel on a rebuild , that is not the case . These far fetched rumors need to be left off site or investigated further. Bad read
This is what everyone said when they were about to trade away Soto. Preller doesn’t view it as that black and white where it’s either rebuild or compete, he’ll trade legit MLB pieces if it fills areas of need
@Herc33
Smart comment, smarter than the vast majority of takes I have read so far, the majority of which don’t understand the meaning of the words “fire sale” and are apparently surprised AJ Preller is discussing big trades.
They are up for sale. Consider the possibility the towel has been thrown. The rest is riot prevention.
@Vellox Not if Baty, Sproat, and Peterson were the bulk of the return.
Rosenthal has suggested that the Pads are throwing in the towel each of the last 6 years. Bow ties for xmas
Some reporters just don’t like certain teams. But we don’t see what goes on behind the scenes either.
And the Padres have been doing anything but throwing in the towel in recent years
Definitely something going on with him and Pads. LAD and fans have had a front row seat!
Padres fans
Mets are not trading McLean. Full top.
If Mets trade two of Benge, Tong or Williams they will need more than four years of Mason Miller. The Mets are obviously not in win now mode in case you haven’t been paying attention so Pivetta and Laureano are of little interest. The short term does not really matter in Flushing.
This rumor is nonsensical clickbait. Fun. But clickbait.
I hate this deal in general. This is not a “unload the farm” sort of return.
@Agee. We know. It’s the Twelve Days of Clickbait. Miller isn’t being traded either. But maybe there is a lesser deal somewhere between these two teams. I’ll wait for Passan’s reporting.
Damn, my head is already writing and singing the lyrics.
On the first day of clickbait my GM said to me…
I’m tempted to write out the whole song with baseball references but can’t covert the eight maids a milking appropriately….will spare MLBTR
Eight owners whining?
Things that will never happen for $500 Alex.
Doesnt make sense. While i can appreciate picking up the baby starting pitchers from the mets, i dont think pivetta is the caliber piece that the mets want in return. I love sd aiming big, i dont see this happening.
Sd should look at trading wirh kc, mil, mia that has depth from which to trade a decent starter. Then should look at stl who has excess corner outfielders to spare.
Nick Pivetta had a great season and for the Padres to trade him is crazy.
The padres would trade Miller after the haul they gave up to get him? That would be a stunner… but it is Preller!
Pivetta is a rental. Laureano is a rental. That’s not getting prospects 1-7 from the Mets. Pivetta had a career year. Nothing previous to approach that success.
Miller makes it interesting.
top 7 man lmao.
pivetta just finished 6th in the cy young vote.
Much worse arms net top 100 prospects at the deadline every year.
Pivetta has had a sub 4 FIP twice. One third of his career WAR came this season. He is signed for one year.
I like him. But Mark Fidrych won the CY Young award. Christian Walker had a career year the reverted to averages.
Miller makes it a nice Airbnb at least.
You’re not getting four of the Mets top 10 prospects for one year of Pivetta, one year of Laureano, and Estrada. No matter how many times you suggest it.
Losers trade losers for losers to losers in hopes of being losers no more
Sung to the tune of ~oh come all ye faithful”
Glad to see you are in the spirit of things this winter! It’s just the start of Prellerfest 2025.
Cheers!
I’d be curious to see Morejon as a starter in San Diego. Get him 140 innings and see how he handles it. It’s pretty obvious that the ‘pen was built for the mid rotation arms to start each game with a 5 inning plan. I’m confident Morejon could navigate 5 innings easily. Maybe even have him go from the 2nd inning with a starter in key games, to keep him on the same mental plane as his reliever role.
Morejon or Hoeing wins a rotation spot, my Spidey-sense is triggered.
Mets should hold onto McLean; Padres should keep Miller. The other guys should be fair game.
Baseball reference says laureano is a free agent.?
It’d be wrong. Ramon is signed for ’26.
Padres gotta be nuts to send off Miller so quickly.
Isn’t AJ Preller the GM that traded future Hall of Famer Trea Turner before he ever played in the bigs?
Dear Mets fans.
First Miller. Padres traded the number 3 prospect in baseball plus more for him just a few months ago. That’s more from a ranking standpoint than any prospect the Mets have. With that said after McLeans performance let’s say he is a no go. That would mean anyone else plus would be on the table for Miller alone. Next best prospect is Benge who would have to be on the table unless the Padres want a quantity trade. Miller is better than Diaz and a lot cheaper. If the Mets signed Diaz to a 21m avg after tax that would have cost the Mets about 42m a year. Miller will cost 2m/4m after Mets tax. That’s a nearly 40m difference in salary for just one year. That has massive value to the Mets and the ability to spend on other players. Even Cohen has payroll limits. Miller is also controlled for 4 more years. Reports are the Mets try to trade for him at last year’s deadline. So clearly they have interest.
Next up is Pivetta. He had an excellent season last year, has one year of control before he can opt out. Anyone trading for him would be as a one year rental. He would likely fetch a backend top 100 prospect if traded or similar value to that.
Laureano. He is a good glove can play all 3 outfield spots. Though better suited for a corner spot. He has one year 6.5m left on his deal. In a market that has very few outfielders available. Certainly none that produced his stats last year only getting 6.5m. He had over a .900 ops last year. There are no other options that meet his salary and production from last year. He is also worth a backend top 100 guy or similar in a trade.
Estrada. Has 4 years of control left. Strikes out over 30% of the batters he faces. He is actually better than the Nats reliever who was traded for Ford. In today’s pen market he would carry a lot of value. At the least a backend top 100 guy or similar in a trade like laureano and Pivetta if not more because of his years of control left.
Morejon. Has one year left at around 4m. He was one of the most dominant lefty relievers in the game last year. The lack of control makes it difficult for the padres to get back his true value. Unlike Estrada and miller. Very difficult to assign a value to him with how good he is vs years of control.
While I know Mets fan will overvalue their prospects. Most prospects never reach their ceilings. Others will want to point to previous years to try a reduce the value of these players.
With that said it is extremely difficult to see 3 or more of these padres players being in a single deal. It would basically wipe out the farm system of the Mets.
Now I can see the padres being interested in non Mets prospects like Senga, Vientos, baty acuna and Peterson. Of which could be traded for a number of different guys listed. Miller prob the only one that would require an elite prospect return.
These are my opinions I surely don’t expect you all to agree with any or everything .
These are reasonable. A few caveats…
1. Pivetta may have figured it out and likely has value, but other than this past year, his FIP has consistently been 4.00 or higher. I like him and would be willing to give up something of value, but not elite prospects for a rental.
2. Laureano is a former PED user/alleged who had a year far beyond anything previous. Also, his defense fell off significantly. Not worth anything premium, but I could see a few lower level guys.
3. Miller is definitely worth a premium prospect and perhaps a second (or at least a few second tier.
However,
Williams, Tong, Sproat, Benge and Reimer for that trio is absurd.
Most players have some sort of warts. Even Soto has real issues.
Also I don’t expect any trade with said trio to be an all prospect trade.
That’s why I listed a number of guys like…Baty, Senga, Peterson, acuna, Vientos as possible other targets. I highly doubt the Mets will trade away their entire farm. Probably others I didn’t even mention. Some of those dudes have already been mentioned as available. Miller on the other hand will require at least one premium prospect plus something else.
Like it wouldn’t surprise me if Pivetta was traded for one of Senga or Peterson. Maybe not one for one but wouldn’t take much to make a deal like that work. I could see the padres having interest in Williams, especially if they dump cronenworth somewhere else.
Laureano is a hard dude to evaluate I agree and pivetta to a certain extent. Though the numbers they put up last year are in the books. So there is some high upside that was put on paper last year.
There are like a 100 different options that could make 1-2-3-4 different guys from the padres being moved.
Nicely done Simm. Put a bow on it. That’s a wrap
Is Steve still fully committed to the team or has he moved onto the casino garbage? Already let the most important Met of the last 20 years leave for Baltimore.
Talks are one thing. If they go anywhere is another.
McLean for Miller who says no
San Diego.
Cronenworth wasn’t mentioned?? Why would he be? The Mets have zero interest in him.
If there is any merit to this rumor at all, SD is seeking to sell high and I would hope that Stearns is not buying. Both Pivetta and Lauriano are coming off career years with the Padres. In the 4 years prior to 2025 Pivetta was a 4.33 ERA, 1.242 WHIP pitcher and Laurianp averaged 333 ABs as a 237 hitter with a .709 OPS.. I am not giving up potential future stars for that. Especially if obtaining Lauriano will prevent the signing of a Tucker or Bellinger.
The relievers are the cream of this trade but I am not giving up an elite starter prospect for a reliever regardless of the years of control. I doubt that Preller would do it, but I would give up Jett and a couple of good pitching prospects like Ryan Lambert and Zach Thornton for Miller and Morejon.
Those dudes would t even get you miller alone.
The Mets just paid an older player coming off a worse year 2/40.
There’s very little rh power on the market.
1/6 for Laureano is an absolute steal.
True and it’s 40m a year after the tax.
All you negative padres posters here you know who you are step back. Preller has not signed an extension. Why this is not a major recurring story on this site and others is beyond me. The team is going up for sale their love him or hate him gm is a free agent next year and imagine he does a salary relief trade with the Mets like what is described here and then becomes the Mets gm next season? Think that kind of bull isn’t possible? Haha just look at the way our government operates. Preller has not resigned team is going for sale there should be a pause on padres rumors. The only rumor worth talking about is prellers status
Reports out there including from the Padres current chairman have said they are talking to Preller about an extension and expect him to remain with the padres.
When you hear all these padres are looking at this and that. That’s Preller every offseason and deadline. He has 1000 different options running through his head. 99% of them don’t happen but he looks at every option. He never sleeps, eats and breathes coming up with ideas. Checks in on every player. Talks about trades with every team so he can get a pulse on the market. For his players and others.
He has constantly lined up puzzle pieces. One won’t make any sense, perhaps a second won’t make any sense…by the time he is done he has completed his puzzle.
For example he maybe shopping cronenworth. Seeing what his value is in the market. If he finds a taker, he will then shop around looking for his replacement before trading him. In this case the first trade is Cronenworth, everyone will scream fire sale. Then an hour or so later here comes the second trade, then comes him signing a dude with the money he saved trading cronenworth.
Lots of smoke around the Padres right now. They don’t need to shed payroll. They will on the other hand look to reallocate money.
I heard originally exchanging miller and Boegarts for Lindor and prospects or money. maybe include matsui and/or wandy. If they’re trading miller this is the kind of money move that makes sense.
Tading Pivetta and Laureano will also bring a lot of value. Thats a lot of value with short term commitment. But; as a fan I want them both back.
Cease and King produced a roughly 4 era in 37 starts <250 innings; those arent irreplaceable numbers. especially for $40 million / year.
Wty- good last point.
Padres didn’t get high level production from Cease, King or Darvish last year.
Some avg innings eaters could replace them.
Then they talk about losing Suarez. We only got 2 months of Miller last year. So that covers most of it. Then you add in Adam went down right after they got Miller. One could argue Adam is as good or even better than Suarez.
They lost Arraez and two months of O’Hearn but also gained a full season of Laureano. The team may not have a lot of money to spend but the holes are less glaring than they appear.
Any trade that ends with Boegarts going to the Mets is a false rumor. He is not good, and the contract lasts longer than Lindor.
Lindor was worth 5.9 WAR last year.
Mets making up rumors because their fans are mad about their closer and Alonso leaving lol. The padres aren’t trading any of these guys…they can’t. They are core. Miller isn’t going anywhere. Piveta would bring the prospects, but cokes with compensation so he’s likely not moving. Loreno..doubtful