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Cubs Show Interest In Jacque Jones

As I flipped through the Chicago Sun-Times today, I noticed a funny caption under Jacque Jones's picture: Strikes out a lot.  It's funny that the editors decided on that as Jones's defining characteristic.

Calm down, Cubs fans - Jones isn't the answer in right field.  Jim Hendry might toss out the Jeromy Burnitz offer -one year, $4.5MM.  But unless Jones has little regard for money or security, he won't become a Cub.  Jacque reportedly has a three-year offer on the table, and requires at least a two-year pact. 

Jones and Jeromy Burnitz were essentially the same player in 2005.  Solid glove, decent pop, little plate discipline.  Jones may be younger than Burnitz, but he's not on the upswing.  Hendry is clearly looking to upgrade, and two or three years of Jones just wouldn't serve the purpose.

With so many names tossed around for the vacant Cubs RF spot, I've provided this handy list.  One of these 17 men will be in right field on Opening Day for the Cubs.

Bobby Abreu - Phils want Prior or Zambrano; out of the question.

Juan Encarnacion - Another low-OBP guy with OK power. If all else fails, it could happen.

Cliff Floyd - Hasn't played RF since 2002; a better overall LF than Manny Ramirez in '05.  Has interested the Cubs for years, but Mets can't spare outfielders right now. 

Jay Gibbons - Still won't take a walk; set a career high SLG. Probably not worth trading anyone for.

Shawn Green - Can and would veto a trade to Chicago.

Aubrey Huff - Recent decline worrisome; asking price (Angel Guzman?) high.

Geoff Jenkins - GM Melvin denied Jenkins trade rumors, but said the same about Overbay. Same division deal unlikely.

Jacque Jones - Lackluster option could be a Cub if Hendry gets silly and gives him two years.

Austin Kearns - Likely to stay put now that the outfielder logjam has been alleviated.

Kevin Mench - Plenty of teams are after Mench, who can play right or left field.  His power would be useful, and he comes cheap. 

Craig Monroe - See Juan Encarnacion.

Trot Nixon - Viable option; should be platooned with a lefty masher like Monroe or even Sosa.

Gary Sheffield - Wouldn't happen unless Hendry gave the 37 year-old a two-year extension and dealt Pie, Guzman, or Hill.

Reggie Sanders - Probably wouldn't accept the one-year deal Hendry might offer.  Has played plenty of RF in his career though.

Sammy Sosa - As scary as it sounds, tossing Sosa $1MM to platoon with Nixon or Reggie Sanders could work out OK.

Ichiro Suzuki - Won't come cheap and doesn't provide power. Mariners aren't dumping salaries this year, anyway.

Craig Wilson - Wouldn't be pretty in the field, but the Cubs could use Wilson. Doesn't fit in the Bucs' plans, either.

I think the likely options are Huff, Mench, Monroe, Wilson, Encarnacion, and Jones, in that order.

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Kenny R. wins again

No mention of Kevin Mench? A platoon of Mench and Nixon would probably make more sense than Sosa, considering the history and Sosa's likely unwillingness to platoon.

Seems like anyone we'd trade for we'd want to be an everyday player, though. Is Texas unwilling to relocate Wilkerson?

3/4 of these names make me sick to my stomach.

Candy Maldonado, where are you?

The man's unstoppable (Kenny). And then there were 16.

Although between Swisher, Payton, and Kotsay, the A's seem to have an extra OF on their hands.

I'll guess it was for Jairo Garcia out of this list.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2005/11/10/1533/6679

9/10 of the names make me sick, dude.

Mench belongs on there - didn't realize he played so much RF. Wilkerson's got so little RF under his belt and Daniel's asking price so high that I can't see it.

I'll add Mench to the list.

You think the MUTTS would take Cano for Floyd?

HAHAHA! Who are the MUTTS kidding, they couldn't get Cano for Cliff 'Bad Knee Risin' Floyd! We already have a superior LF in Matsui.

file that under Captain Obvious

I think its a mistake to take Abreu off the table. Show me a 20 win season from Prior and maybe he's untouchable. On the other hand, what kind of difference could Abreu make on a daily basis? We are desperate for a power lefty and there aren't that many out there.
BTW- why not pick up Lofton? He's old but he can still do a lot for a team, a real sparkplug.

because they need power out of their RF option.
Lofton? See Juan Pierre.

I liked Lofton a lot for CF, but I'd only want him now as a 4th outfielder, speed and OBP off the bench.

I'm way too biased to evaluate Prior properly, but I think he's entering a dominant stretch of his career. Abreu is approaching his decline phase and costs mucho dinero.

RM, I can't believe you even put Sosa on the list.... No way that happens. No possible way.

Yeah, I pretty much agree that it's impossible. But I thought it'd be fun to throw it out there - he can still hit lefties, would be more humble, and would play dirt cheap. I'd be entertained, honestly.

What is Nixon's situation in Boston? Why would they trade him?

Nixon is available. It would have to come on the heels of some sort of Boston acquisition, but he could be dealt.

more looking at the remote possibility of Dunn being available, I'd say Kearns would be on the list after reading this:

"The trade of Sean Casey, which opened up an outfield position for Wily Mo Peña, won't prevent the Reds from trading an outfielder.
"Right now, we have to consider anything that involves potentially improving our pitching," O'Brien said.
Trading for infielder/outfielder Tony Womack gives the Reds the flexibility to play Ryan Freel in left field should Peña or outfielder Austin Kearns be traded. That's particularly true if the Reds re-sign infielder Rich Aurilia, which they hope to do"

I'd think J.Williams would be a good fit in Cincy...not in any way excited about Kearns though.

The Cubs need to get Huff

Last year was a fluke, and he still hit better then Encarnacion or Jones

When playing like he should he can hit 30HRs and a .300avg. That is really, really good.

Nixon and Huff are the only two guys on that list that I want in right field. Not really an upgrade over Burnitz, though. If that's what happens, I would hope Hendry would upgrade the starting rotation or the middle infield as well. That might make me happy enough to overlook the lack of power in right. After all, I think the philosophy this year is going to be getting on base, speed, defense, and pitching. We've tried the power thing the last few years and gotten burned for the most part.

Nixon and Huff are the only two guys on that list that I want in right field. Not really an upgrade over Burnitz, though. If that's what happens, I would hope Hendry would upgrade the starting rotation or the middle infield as well. That might make me happy enough to overlook the lack of power in right. After all, I think the philosophy this year is going to be getting on base, speed, defense, and pitching. We've tried the power thing the last few years and gotten burned for the most part.

Angel Guzman is nothing compared to Huff

Scary to think the Reds could actually start Tony Womack.

I heard that Nomar might play first base for the yankees... screw that lets put Derek lee in right field and Nomar at first... Derek Lee has a great arm and led the team in stolen bases so he can cover alot of ground, and Nomar has been injury prone so first is a good spot for him, what do you guys think?

y would u ever think about moving a gold glove first baseman who just had the best year of his career, y move his position

Cubs screwed this up big time.

Maybe the Cubs could trade Lee, Zambrano and Pie for Giambi, Bubba and Melky Cabrera?

The only way the Yankees do that is if the Cubs take all of Giambi's contract.

Slightly off topic, but has there been any speculation on where Kenny Lofton will wind up? I haven't heard anything at all and I must say I find it at least a little bit odd. Maybe he is a guy that teams will turn to once things really cool down, but after the year he had in 2005 I would think somebody would be willing to give him a shot in center at least in another some kind of platoon situation.

Milton Bradley, now of the A's, actually sounds good in comparison. Compared to most of these name, I'd say screw it and platoon Pie and Greenberg till somebody shows you something and treat Murton and Walk and your 5 and 6 hitting mashers. And thats a good idea for nobody. Maybe we should let Corrie be a power hitting right fielder like he always wanted to be. He's cheaper and about equal to all thosse options you listed. Should have given Nomar arbitratation. Should have found somebody with som punch somewhere and should have released Dusty's Crack (Neifi).

Yankees fan, go play in the street. That is, perhaps, the most asinine trade proposal I have ever read.

I want Pie to be the new CF for the Yankees. He, Cano and Wang will be our new newcleus!

Zach... thats actually a great idea, derek lee is very fast and has enough power to play out there.. plus we would still have nomar wow smart thinking... Leefanatic are you even a true cubs fan this would totally improve the cubs so think about it

Yankfan get your head out of you --- and shutup. I'm not really sure what possessed you to propose tht trade other than your worship of all things yankee.

Okay. Maybe Giambi, Cano and Melky Cabrera for Zambrano, Lee, Pie, and a b-prospect?

Melky and Cano are our 'core'. We can't just give them away for "marginal" upgrades!

I think you need to add Corey Patterson to the list.

He's under contract, fairly cheap, and won't cost anything extra to play him there.

What's RF in Wrigley if it doesn't strike out 100+ times?

This is actually ok with me if that means the money/prospects are spent getting a better middle infield.

i think i need to let it be known id be willing to consider to play left. me and pierre would be a good 1-2 pop at the top of the order

I have to agree that a Sosa acquisition would need to be for the bench, if at all. Maybe a pinch-hitter against lefties? Probably better to keep the ties severed, though.

I'm not keen on Mench or Kearns, perhaps because I'm worried their asking prices are artificially high because of the multi-team bidding - and partially because I think they need a lot of work still. I make no bones about liking the Aubrey Huff idea, though I know not everyone agrees. I would love the much-rumored Huff and Lugo acquisition, though I'm not counting on it. Tampa's GM seems to be the hardest GM to make a deal with, if the past couple of years is any indication. He overvalues his players a bit too much. As I understand it, he loses Huff at the end of the year anyway, correct? So he might get nothing for him after 2006 because he wanted all the Leprechan's gold for him (and every Tampa player) in preseason 2006? What a dufus.

Dunn would be great, but I still have a hard time believing the Reds would trade intra-division without getting the better end of the deal. Also, if we're looking at unlikley intra-division trades, why not at least make a phone call about Carlos Lee? Doesn't he still have his offseason home in Chicago?

Realistically, I see a few outside, outside shots:
1.) Abreu
2.) Dunn

...and a couple of real possibilities:
1.) Huff
2.) Jones (please, no...please no)

Cubs fans - am I the only guy in Chicago upset that we're not giving Damon a look? Man, I'd love to see him in CF.....

Yeah, adding kenny is a good idea. Now we would have at least 3 positions w/ absolutely no power:
CF, RF, and SS.
And three positions with maybe 20 HR power:
2nd, Catcher, LF.
Yeah, okay, next idea....

Yeah, adding kenny is a good idea. Now we would have at least 3 positions w/ absolutely no power:
CF, RF, and SS.
And three positions with maybe 20 HR power:
2nd, Catcher, LF.
Yeah, okay, next idea....

I wouldn't mind adding Damon but the problem with him is simple. He wants a huge, long-term deal. It doesn't make sense to sign a guy on the wrong side of 30 to a long term deal. IF he reduced his demands, I'd be all for it if all of the other top options fall through.

As for the Carlos Lee idea, it'd be nice but I really don't see it happening. The Brewers were better than the Cubs last season...wow...and certainly are going to be trying to compete this year.

Aubrey Huff is the only good option on that list. Looks like the cubs will have to over pay once again if they want to win the division.

How about resigning a OLD cubs and getting him a walker so he can play right field...I say go sign ANDRE DAWSON....

by the way...kepp the damn yankess fans out of here!!!!!

Id trade for either Huff or Jenkins. Those are the only 2 options that would work for the cubs. Or if they fail that. Start patterson in right till they can find someone at the trading deadline.

I think the only time I've seen 'Craig Monroe' in print it was in reference to a shoplifting charge.

'Monger

Could the Cubs work out a sign and trade for Burnitz? Theyre already owed a PTBNL from TEX for Jon Leciester.

Krone, why not just add another player and take Mench? Do you really want Burnitz?

SOSA?

SOSA?

SAMMY F. SOSA?

are you people insane? the cubs sacrificed the entire '05 season JUST TO GET RID OF THE GUY!

help me jesus.

Hey, as for Craig Monroe, we've all had bad days and stolen belts before. I know I have.

I just think it'd be cool to get Sosa back because everyone would get so angry.

The key word here is UPGRADE. Burnitz isn't around, so something has to be done. Neither Mench nor Huff would be an upgrade-check stats vs. Burnitz. Sanders would be a slight upgrade. Obviously, we'd all love Abreu. I actually like Trot Nixon....check the stats.

This'll get some buzz going....how about Pie and another prospect or two for Miguel Cabrera? We've already made one trade with Florida--why not another?

As much as I would like Cabrera here, hes their untouchable.

I would like Craig Monroe here, but man, now these days idk what the cubs r up to. Talks have quiet down alot in the PUBLIC, but I can see a deal coming around this week or next week. Also, i dont think the Cubs will sign Jones. I think the Cards will sign him. I think that three year offer is from the Cards because I heard they already offered him a contract, and still r waiting for his response. As for Mensch, RumorMonger, they already asked for a heavy price in return and they want our number two starter. Unless they change theie minds,but I doubt it. Those guys r DESPERATE for pitching.

that is a good idea john i would love cabrera for pie rich hill and maybe a brandon sing, but isnt he on floridas untouchables list?

As for Damon, hes going to lower his demand by January. And BTW, the cubs did contact Damon.

yah the cubs could pass up jones and make a serious run at damon, though they dont want to get screwed over like furcal and end up with noone , it would be a big risk

I thought I heard somewhere that Jones' offer was from KC.

1. Pierre
2. Walker
3. Lee
4. Ramirez
5. Tejada*
6. Floyd
7. Murton
8. Barrett

* BRUCE LEVINE REPORTS HE COULD BE HAD FOR CEDENO, KPAT, WILLIAMS, AND HILL/GUZMAN


OR

1. PIERRE

2. LUGO

3. LEE

4. HUFF

5. rAMIREZ

6. BARRET

7. MURTON

8. CEDENO ( 2ND LEADOFF MAN)

OR

1. PIERRE

2. CENDENO

3. LEE

4. JAY GIBBONS/JEFF GEONKINS

5. RAMIREZ

6. WALKER

7. BARRET

8. MURTON

ALL OF THESE LINEUPS ARE SURE TO PRODUVE A PLAYOFF TEAM

**PRODUCE

well aramis would bat cleanup instead of nuff jenkins or gibbons right?

Cub fans everywere should go have a stiff drink and take the hard swallow of defeat for next season. I know it sounds bad to give up already but of all the trades that were necessary none of them are working out and now we are trading some of our best prospects for guys who bat .250. If we are to give out our best prospects lets get someone who is going to really go .300 and get 30 HR's. Tell me I am wrong?

CAN SOMEBODY POST A PROJECTED LINEUP FOR NEXT SEASON?

I haven't seen us trade for a .250 hitter yet. Pierre batted .276 last year but is a career .300 hitter. Keep in mind we had a good year when we traded for Lofton/Ramirez. Lofton was the sparkplug at the top of the lineup like Pierre will be. I don't see any .250 trades yet.

If we are to give out our best prospects lets get someone who is going to really go .300 and get 30 HR's.


How about Felix Pie and one of your top starters for Mets Third Baseman David Wright. Ya'll say he's so good, take HIM!

Hendry has spent roughly 10 million this offseason to sure up the bullpen and leadoff spot. That means he has 20 million to work with to get a middle infielder and an outfielder. I don't see Hendry settling for cut rate guys like Jaque Jones and Julio Lugo. Something bigger is gonna happen before ST, we just don't know what Hendry has up his sleeve.

Yeah, Hendry has something up his sleeve, alright: a dozen jelly donuts and a box of Ho-Ho's. The fat slob is an abject failure of a GM, he gets to operate with a $100MM+ payroll and look at the joke of a team he's putting out there. And now talking about adding Jock Jones to the mix, what a coup!!

I'd love to see what a real GM with a real plan could do with this payroll. Billy Beane in Chicago would be very cool.

2006 Cubs prediction: 70-92, 5th place, NL Central

i dont like knocking anyone, and i dont like letting bias as a cubs fan cloud my judgement, but lets see here. most of last season we had to suffer the likes of poor batting from CF and LF positions. assuming murton takes up LF, and pierre at CF, it doesnt even matter who takes RF.. 70-92? with the young bullpen thrown in with experienced vets, i dont see the math in this. assuming we get at least an average power hitter with 100+ strikeouts at RF, i still dont see this.

pierre is young and last season isnt really him. the cubs have at least improved in tiny ways, and would easily beat last years team. 5th place in a division that is very, very weakened (the astros and cards wont be quite the same, and not for the better.. AND, the cubs had winning records in their division to begin with, and last year, thats saying a lot) division. i just am looking at this, and honestly cant see any truth to it.

cubs will finish, at worst, 3rd place. thats if injuries haunt us. im making this prediction with a mindset that wood will start all of 0 games next year.

wright for pie? no way. wright is good, but we have 0 need for a 3rd baseman.

I'm not much on the Hendry personal attacks, but I do believe that a GM at Wrigley should produce better than one division title every - oh, we'll say - 11 or 12 years.

So I'm against a Hendry extention until we see some results this year. Otherwise, it's time to look elsewhere, I agree.

The offseason looks a little bleak right now, but I have a feeling something will happen via trade. Tampa has to realize that as everybody keeps dropping out of trade discussions with them, it becomes more and more evident that they are asking for too much for their guys who become free agents next year.

I wouldn't count out Huff or Lugo just yet; same with Vidro. I think Tejada and Abreu likely will not happen, but I hope Hendry keeps those GMs' phones a-ringing. Damon is still a bit of a long shot, but if they finally do decide that too much talent must be given up in any trades, just forking out cash and nothing else for a .300-plus-hitting, Gold-Glove-defending CF might not be such a bad idea after all.

I just hope Hendry doesn't overplay his "we're fine as we are" card. We're not fine, regardless what snake oil he's selling when he says we could just plug-in guys we already have.

We need help from outside of the organization, and not Kevin Mench/Jacque Jones style stopgap help. We need quality help to compete this year.

I hope it's in the plans.

else for a .300-plus-hitting, Gold-Glove-defending CF might not be such a bad idea after all

Fine, if not Wright, then, Pie for Bubba and Sean Henn. Let's do this.

John, here is a projected lineup (as the Cubs now stand):
1. Pierre
2. Walker
3. Lee
4. Ramirez
5. RF??
6. Barrett
7. Murton
8. Cedeno
9. Pitcher

Others may disagree, but I think that this is one of the most likely lineups.

Well "Dan", you lovable little Polyanna: With regards to the likely lineup as posted immediately above by "The Joe": you do know that for some reason, Hendry is insistent on moving Todd Walker elsewhere, right? That means you can pencil in Neifi Freaking Perez, in the #2 hole courtesy of Dusty Friggin Baker, for 600+ PAs in 2006. In the #5 spot and RF, you're going to get Jacques Jones, a guy actually worse than Jeromy Burnitz.

Plus, Kerry Wood is finished, Greg Maddux pitches batting practice anymore, and Glendon Rusch is going to be your #4 starter. What an exciting team!

Again, 70-92, I'll take money bets on that.

OK Rock Raines...lets put some money on that...I dont think the Cubs are playoff contenders but the will finish at worst 81-81..write in down!

Rock, why don't you wait until opening day before you knock Hendry's offseason. It's far from over. I'm sure if you were the GM of this team you would have gone for the likes of Carlos Beltran, JD Drew, Magglio Ordonez, Armando Benitez, Troy Percival...etc. All those guys turned out to be HUGE busts, yet every Cubs fan were pissed when Hendry passed on their ridiculous demands. His offer to Furcal was very fair, he can't help the fact that the Tribune isn't Steinbrenner.

He's only been the GM since 2002-3ish and he's still had a decent amount of success. At least give him credit for practically stealing the best 3B/1B combo in the organization's history. Also, while his pitcher's haven't stayed healthy enough to hit on all cylinders (not his fault at all), when healthy they did get us deep into the playoffs.

All those guys turned out to be HUGE busts..

And whom, might I ask, is YOUR Center Fielder

Between Bubba and Beltran(two "busts"), we have the two best CF's in baseball.

Place that firmly into your corncob pipe and smoke it.

Beltran's 119 million dollar contract + .744 OPS = HUGE bust

The guy put up Jeromy Burnitz numbers.

Is there a worse value in baseball?

Rumormonger,

I have 2/1 odds that the Cubs trade for Mark Kotsay.

Is there a worse value in baseball?

The one time I will EVER defend the hated MUTTS...

First of all, if you knew anything about the situation you might have prevented yourself from looking too stupid.

1. Playing in NYC is different from playing anywhere else on Earth. The pressures that come along with a big contract and NYC is immmense. Just ask A-Rod... who is even more talented than Beltran (had to take a shot at B-tron there)

2. He was injured for most of the season. Beltran suffered a thigh injury and was never the same.

3. By the time he DID recover, he just happened to collide with Cameron in the OF in San Diego. Guess what? Dude was out less than a week after an accident that might have crippled a lesser man. He came back even though the suck-ass MUTTS had no chance to make the playoffs.

Now, maybe, just maybe, if Beltran didn't have the balls to come back and face the music, I would piss on the guy. But being the New Yorker that I am, I must applaud his balls. He can be the CF for my beloved Yankees ANY DAY.

Now, put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

-Jake aka YankeesFan

You rag on Beltran for his HUGE BUST season and then talk about MARK KOTSAY?

Speaking from my team's POV, i'd rather have an injured Beltran than a healthy Kotsay.

1. Oh my god...gimme a freakin break with this "oh it's so tough to play in New York" garbage.

2. If you sign a guy to a huge contract and he gets injured, it's a bust. Regardless of whether it's a freak injury or not, he's not giving your team his contractual value. JD Drew, Maggs, and Benitez were also busts.

3. He wasn't playing well before the collision with Cameron. Plus there have been countless collisions in baseball, and they always come back to play eventually....it's their jobs genius.

4. Beltran was overhyped to begin with....he was a good player thrust into mythical status after one great postseason.

5. Carlos Beltran .266 ba/ .330 obp/ .414 slug 16 hr 78 rbi

Mark Kotsay .280 ba/ .325 obp/ .421 slug 15 hr 80 rbi

Beltran had about the same year that Mark Kotsay did. Beltran gets paid like 8 times more than Kotsay does.

By the way, when giving a guy a 119 million dollar contract, you might want to make sure that he can handle playing professional baseball in New York. I'm sure whenever you guys boo him or the Post writes a nasty headline about him, he wipes his tears away with 100 dollar bills.

"The pressures that come along with a big contract and NYC is immmense." Hahaha hilarious

Hahaha hilarious

WOW. Cubs fans really ARE more obnoxious than Yankees fans.

I would rub the World Series wins and everything in your face, but I hate the MUTTS as much as you probably do.

*cough* Victor Diaz ended your 2004 season.. a CUB FAN, no less! *cough*

See, in NYC, we know as more about each other's team than we probably should. You guys don't even know who won the WS last year.

Best keep that one under wraps, lest mass suicide overtake the population of Cubs fans.

By the way, when giving a guy a 119 million dollar contract, you might want to make sure that he can handle playing professional baseball in New York.

Randy Johnson thought so... and the Unit struggled. A-Rod thought so... and he "struggled".

It's a thing about NYC and I never once heard Beltran belly ache. I can respect that as an opponent.

Oh, and one last thing... no competent, RATIONAL human being calls a 7-year contract a bust until it's OVER or the guy gets traded without fulfilling some measure of his potential.

Bad years DO happen, or should we just limit that to your pitching staff?

Thank you, come again... as Apu would say.

-Jake aka YankeesFan

Sorry Mr. RATIONAL, but Cub fans have enough to discuss without worrying about NY, Randy Johnson, 7 year contracts, and a team payroll over 60% higher than one owned by a brand of chewing gum.

"Oh, and one last thing... no competent, RATIONAL human being calls a 7-year contract a bust until it's OVER or the guy gets traded without fulfilling some measure of his potential."

No, you are right. But anyone can call it how they see it...when a guy gets a 7 million signing bonus, 10 mil base salary, and plays at best, like Mark Kotsay. Or maybe that's just me being obnoxious.

Mr. Reggie Miller, tell Spike what he's won.

Just letting you know that the Mets ARE one of the favorites to make it to the WS... where the Yankees will proceed to kick the #&$* out of them.

Heaven forbid Beltran is anything close to himself, you Cubs fans can basically kiss any chance at a postseason goodbye.

All I heard last year on radio was, "We have no closer, 1st baseman, or CF." Mets fans whining like petulent children. Well, they happened to win 83 with the worst pythagorean in MLB. (BAD LUCK)

Mets prevent Cubs from making playoffs, Yankees kick Mets teeth in.

It's WIN-WIN!

Not a Knicks fan... can't stand the Pacers.

I'm a Yankee fan.. and I would just like to say.. that I'm just embarrased by YankeesFan's trade proposals and such. Be a little realistic, man.

Yeah. I was only imitating the irration fans I hear who embarrass the daylights out of me with proposals of Melky Cabrera and Aaron Small for Rocco Baldelli.

*shakes his head*

Carlos Beltran - One great postseason = cha ching cha ching

7 years 119 mil....ouch, but I guess when you're from NY and can buy your way out of mistakes, it's fairly simple.

Or as Giambi did, buy your way into great entertaining deodorant commercials. Look at those pecks Mr.Balco!

7 years 119 mil....ouch, but I guess when you're from NY and can buy your way out of mistakes, it's fairly simple.

No, no, no... Brant Brown was a mistake. Kevin Brown was a mistake... Bobby Bonilla was a mistake.

I only WISH the Yankees had overpaid for a stud CF'er in his prime who can steal 40 bases and has better range than Aaron Rowand.

But we'll have to settle for Bubba.

And Cubs fans will have to settle for Apple Pie, Corey Patterson, or that "so-called" CFer Juan Pierre (scoffs loudly... Cano for Pierre, HAH!)

See you in the funny pages...

-Jake

I agree that they overpaid for Beltran who probably earned 50 million in that postseason but the point is the Mets HAD to overpay for him to make the NY Mets a destination for players. Pedro would NOT have signed if it wasn't for him. Delgado would be unhappy right now and Wagner would NOT be on a team without pedro and Beltran. Maybe they overpaid but I would say it worked out, yes?

I wish the Cubs would do something that might involve overpaying a little bit for someone because maybe then we would get a good player and not the trash we're gonna be putting in right this year.

Let's look at what we have first.

Pierre CF
Walker 2B
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Empty RF
Murton LF
Barrett C
Cedeno SS

Z
Prior
Mad Dog
Williams
Wood/Guzman/Hill/Rusch

Bullpen - Complete

2 Ptbnl Leicester, Van Buren

We have 1 major hole RF. Relaistic possibilities, Sing (bad D), Huff, Mench. I say bite the bullett and trade Guzman for Huff. Phone Cincy and see what it would take to get Freel. I think these are the only options that seem plausible unless Yankee Fan approves our fab trade of Arod, DJ and umm..I don't really want anyone else for Walker and patterson, if and only if, they eat both Arod and jeter's salaries.

watch hendry sign the right handed burnitz - preston wilson. taking odds.

Does anybody know if Scott Bullett, Kevin Roberson, Derrick May, Doug Dazcenso, Dwight Smith, Jerome Walton, Glenallen Hill, or Henry Rodriguez is available to play right? Let's hope we can get at least one of them in a uni this year!

I don't think Hendry bashing is warranted--he's made good moves--I can't think of a BAD move he's made. He got D Lee from Florida, Lofton/Ramirez from Pittsburgh, got rid of Sosa, signed Todd Walker, signed Nomar, signed Barrett. Was he around when the Dontrelle Willis for Clement/Alfonseca move was made? That's the only bad one....who would've known Nomar would get hurt so much???

He's taking criticism from you guys b/c of the moves he HASN'T made (Furcal, RF, etc.) I wouldn't spend $13MM on Furcal--that's more than what Tejada makes and what Konerko signed with the White Sox for--he doesn't put up numbers close to that!

So, let's just hold tight and see what happens with RF, the middle IF and Corey Patterson.

YankeesFan: well in that case.. nice humor:P

Rumormonger--what about Shane Victorino--Abreu's back up? Although experience is limited, his numbers look pretty good. Also-I'd like to see Frank Catalanatto (not alot of power, but he's .301/.451/.818). I'd take that. Or, JD Drew--the Dodgers have a surplus of outfielders.

Not sure who's going to take the time to read a post down this far but here goes:

IF Tejada can be had for Ronny Cedeno, Corey Patterson, Jerome Williams, and Rich Hill then do it and do it now. Maybe even toss in Hairston again. Keep Walker at 2B and find someone to fill in RF for a year until you can make a run at FA to be Cliff Floyd (who I read would consider ending his career in hometown Chicago) or even better FA to be Carlos Lee who never sold his Chicago home and still holds a grudge against the Sox, Kenny Williams, and Ozzie Guillen.

Not sure who's going to take the time to read a post down this far but here goes:

IF Tejada can be had for Ronny Cedeno, Corey Patterson, Jerome Williams, and Rich Hill then do it and do it now. Maybe even toss in Hairston again. Keep Walker at 2B and find someone to fill in RF for a year until you can make a run at FA to be Cliff Floyd (who I read would consider ending his career in hometown Chicago) or even better FA to be Carlos Lee who never sold his Chicago home and still holds a grudge against the Sox, Kenny Williams, and Ozzie Guillen. That would make this years lineup:

1) Pierre - CF
2) Murton - LF
3) Lee - 1B
4) Tejada - SS
5) Ramirez - 3B
6) P. Wilson - RF
7) Walker - 2B
8) Barrett - C

and next years:

1) Pierre - CF
2) Murton - LF
3) Lee - 1B
4) Tejada - SS
5) Ramirez - 3B
6) Lee - RF
7) Barrett - C
8) Walker/Unknown - 2B

What?! You can't call a 7-year contract a bust until its over? Are you kidding me? Each year that you make $17 MILLION and hit .266 with 19 HR is a busted year.
And you can have your World Series rings. It cost you $200 Million + for each of them plus a world of debt now.
What's it going to be this year? $250+ million? All just to be beaten again by Billy Beane's A's or Terry Ryan's Twins, who combined equal HALF of your payroll.

What?! You can't call a 7-year contract a bust until its over? Are you kidding me? Each year that you make $17 MILLION and hit .266 with 19 HR is a busted year.
And you can have your World Series rings. It cost you $200 Million + for each of them plus a world of debt now.
What's it going to be this year? $250+ million? All just to be beaten again by Billy Beane's A's or Terry Ryan's Twins, who combined equal HALF of your payroll.
Speaking of players who shouldn't sign large contracts if they can't handle the media, ENJOY FARNSWORTH.

Jon - big fan of Victorino. That'd be a nice fit in RF for the Cubs, even though he's right handed.

OutOfDarkness...you are thinking baseball...try thinking business. If you pay a guy $17 million and he generates revenue of $23 million, does it matter what the hell his batting average is. Its hard to think in these terms, but its reality.

RumorMonger-Victorino is actually listed as a switch hitter. Do you know the "couple" of trades Hendry says he has out there for outfielders that teams haven't responded to yet? D Rays and Rangers? I heard Mench could be had for a pitching prospect, not a #2 anymore.

Jones is now a Chicago Cub


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5185442

how very sad.

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