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Blogs Are The Worst

This spring has already brought about two weird, out of touch anti-blog columns from old guys. 

First there was this Patrick Reusse piece, beautifully torn apart at Fire Joe Morgan.  Reusse accentuates how easy it is to start a blog by concocting a hilarious scenario where a homeless man blogs the Twins.

Then today Steve Kelley really took bloggers to task.  This column strikes me as especially strange because the most popular Mariners blogs - U.S.S. Mariner and Lookout Landing - operate on a higher plane than any newspaper.  Kelley envisions his bloggers (or is it a chat room?) as "passionate, well-intentioned, if not quite well-informed." 

What blogs are these guys reading?  When I want the news, I pick up the newspaper.  Well, yesterday's news at least.  But when I want intelligent analysis, I check out blogs and some select online columnists.

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There are some message boards that are pretty crappy out there. The cubs board at Pro Sports Daily is downright degrading to real baseball fans.

Somebody should email that guy one of Phil Rogers columns and see what he has to say about print media and online columns.

The guy that wrote the column has a valid point. I mean on my hometown teams "blog" they have a thing where you can set up your own blog and link to a network. I signed up for one just to see if they verified if I had any actual baseball knowledge. Nothing, just a user name and password is needed. If I can make a blog and write my opinions what is to stop someone with even less knowledge of baseball than I have to make one and say they are a baseball "expert".

*Most* blogs are absolute garbage. Either just some homer who hypes up all his teams rookies and makes up fantasy trades or the more "legitimate" ones that copy and paste articles from the various newspapers and such from around the country. I've even seen them link to one site, then give info from another site that they claim is thier "sources" like they have some inside connection that no one else has. Most of these bloggers do all thier research from thier house and just google for stuff. I could do that myself, but it is much easier to go to one of these sites and sift through the B.S. to try to make an educated guess on what is true and what is not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are blogs out there who function at the same level as beat reporters and actually get out and do thier homework and pay thier dues traveling across the country and talking to hundred's of people to finally "break" that story. But as a whole you would have to generalize blogs as not trustworthy. Kind of like how you can say reality TV is garbage. Granted there are probably a few good shows, but with the amount of bad ones outweighing the good ones, everytime you see a new one, you don't even want to give it a chance. I know bloggers are super sensitive toward other meadia's exposing thier flaws, but if the "real" bloggers want to legimize thier industry, they need to clean it up as a whole.

But no one reads the crappy blogs. I can buy a little newspaper-making kit and give it to my 10 year-old sister to write about the Cubs but that's not a threat to a good writer.

"If I can make a blog and write my opinions what is to stop someone with even less knowledge of baseball than I have to make one and say they are a baseball 'expert'."

And since when is people voicing their opinions a horrible thing, rather than being forced to read the opinion of one old fart? If someone has a horrible blog that either can't write or is blatantly wrong most of the time, no one will read it and that blog will shrink away. In the professional journalism world, we aren't so lucky. Case in point, Jim Rome has a job.

That reality TV comparison is a very good one. Of the few NY Met blogs i like to visit from time to time, a majority of them are BS. Metblog.com is the exception so far, as Matthew Cerrone does a terrific job for the most part. I love Jim Rome for the record, he is just funny to me and cracks me up. Rome is different though, like you said, he is simply a guy working for ESPN voicing his opinion, he isnt claiming to have exclusive news or anything like that, just reporting sports news in his own sarcastic way.

Metsblog.com, not Metblog***

"I know bloggers are super sensitive toward other meadia's exposing thier flaws, but if the "real" bloggers want to legimize thier industry, they need to clean it up as a whole."

I don't really think its up to writers to stop people from writing, which is what you're suggesting. The good blogs will get read, the bad ones will be read by the poster's mom. Who cares? Maybe people who lack the ability to critically decide what is good or not?
Playdog, your characterization of blogs as "cutting and pasting" from other sources is ridiculous. Do you read the papers? Most of their rumours are AP or whatever. No one person has total insight all the time. Also, Kieth Law at ESPN among others is consistently more accurate than most of the garbage out there in print.

I haven't even mentioned how ironic it is that you are deriding baseball blogs on a baseball rumour blog.

There are so many cases of people that are writing sports in papers because their dad or mom has connections to that paper, or who have never been involved in the major leagues. Sure, to some extent GMs/etc are going to use whoever they can to blow smoke up our collective asses about what is REALLY going on; but that's half the fun. Figuring out who gets the most accurate b.s.

None of this is at all surprising. The old guard is scared shitless by the new media. Newspaper circulation is down by over 30% from its high point in the 80"s. These guys are going to try to protect their turf and go kicking and screaming into the future.

You're witnessing the beginning of a media revolution effecting both media production and distribution. Wait till mobile media starts taking a bite out of the apple. Revolutions aren't pretty.

Someone is afraid of losing their job. People are willing to do it for free, which sucks for them.

Yeah, when will old guys get that blogs are the media of choice for this generation and that sabrmetrics are the stats of choice for the young and appealing? God, I wish old people would quit being so old. Did you guys see where Fire Joe Morgan said a guy was 9,354 years old because he didn't like VORP after saying he was 479 years old? "It was good enough for George Sisler..." Oh, snap! I sure hope I stay in the 18-34 demographic forever and never go over to the reactionary, blog-hating, traditional stat using group of old guys, because that would be like, so old or something.

Well I think spieldogg hit the nail on the head. It's one thing to post your opinion but for anyone to post it and label it as news is a far stretch. That is what many people do even though the majority of the "news" is taking from some other form of legitimate news. I watched a program on PBS about a week or two ago about the rising trends in news broadcasting and it was appalling really. A lot of the internet sites that discuss the news get 90% of their information from newspapers and yet they see none of the profit. They are losing revenue to internet sites and blogs but supplying these publications (if you can even call them that) with almost all of their material other then their own personal opinions. Sure a journalist may post their opinion but they do work and usually back it up even if you don’t agree with it. Do you feel anyone with a picture phone with internet capabilities is a journalist? If so then I guess blogs are legitimate news outlets but I don't believe they are. I don’t have a problem with blogs but to say they are the preferred media of choice when they provide nothing of their own but their opinion is ridiculous in my opinion. Heck 99% of the posts on this site or provided by other legitimate news outlets and Roto only posts a short tidbit with his opinion. If newspapers were to go under, you would actually have to do your own work and research which I seriously doubt Roto or the majority of people in his position would pay to do what it takes. Even Yahoo and Google only employee writers preferring to rely on other peoples research for their articles. As far as “old guys” who fear that they won’t have a job, I think it’s a legitimate fear. Newspapers and other news outlets everywhere are cutting staff to keep their profits inline while these sites reap benefits off of their work. Sure sites like this don’t provide much if any revenue but it still takes away from the people who are providing you with your material. I’ve seen some blogs that have become quite successful and fairly lucrative as well and seemingly give nothing back in return. I appreciate this site and several other blogs but they can't replace traditional news outlets when they aren’t willing to get out there and do their own stories.

As far as sabermetrics, I suppose I can’t really call it a fad anymore due to how almost everyone below the age of 40 has latched onto it as some sort of breakthrough in science that you would think might save the world with the fervor people back it with. I was under the impression that baseball wasn’t that important in every day American life anymore. I really don’t think science and mathematics should be relied on in a game like baseball. I think it can help but it isn’t full proof and should just be another part of the picture. All stats are misleading and sabermetrics is no different. Plus, it can’t account for intangibles. Everyone who follows the Moneyball revolution sweeping through baseball in the past 10 years seems to feel the postseason is completely irrelevant because “the regular season is a larger sample to judge success by.” I think it’s because no Moneyball team has won in the postseason perhaps because their approach doesn’t incorporate intangibles like character, desire and knowing how to win. I see where everyone is going with their argument but I don’t see how you can judge success by anything other then how the sport already does. Every year, people rest players for the postseason not to mention there are harder divisions, injuries…so many other things that could affect the record of a baseball team. The postseason is what every team is playing for. I do think sabermetrics will eventually be incorporated (if it already hasn’t) in teams approach and the sport could be better for it but I don’t think relying on it and it only is a smart idea. You should look at everything and leave no stone unearthed when searching for the best approach in doing something. Even Beane has went back on many of the ideas he once had because it didn’t necessarily translate into the success he was looking for. I’m also sure he would trade in several of those division titles for one WS ring.

Oh and I’m 25 just to shatter the stereotype that everyone under 40 worships sabermetrics.

I think newspaper columnists (correctly) regard the blogosphere as a threat to their existence/job security. While it's true that blogs are mostly opinions and there is a lot of crap out there, the same can be said about columnists -- they only write their opinions. Their not reporters. But they have power, or rather, *had* power. Blogs have been useful in breaking news that newspaper were either too scared or too biased to print. They are a definite benefit to society. Some blogs are too stupid and some too biased. But some are quite excellent. The spectrum of quality is pretty much what you'll find in the newsprint-o-sphere. The main difference is that blogs don't, for better and for worse, have editors. And they don't have a lot of financial overhead that often times requires newspapers to 'tone it down' or ever outright pander.

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