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Cardinals Send Reyes To Indians
The Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that the Indians have acquired Anthony Reyes from the Cardinals for a minor leaguer. Reyes who worked out of the bullpen earlier this year for the Cardinals, was most recently in triple-A, where he made 11 starts, going 2-3 with a 3.25 ERA.
The Cardinals received Luis Perdoma, a relief pitcher, who has split the year between single-A and double-A. At Akron, Perdoma was 2-0 with a 3.52 ERA with one save.
Cork Gaines writes for RaysIndex.com and can be reached here.
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Posted by: Jreyes7 | July 26, 2008 at 02:48 PM
They couldn't have gotten more? At least they had a little depth in triple-A with Reyes. Now if a pitcher goes down... It just seems pointless to me from the Cards perspective.
Posted by: TheAngelicDoctor | July 26, 2008 at 02:55 PM
why trade Reyes for a reliever? couldn't get a better deal than this? surprising ...
Posted by: ChicagoBucco | July 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Cards what the hell? Man braves should have jumped on this any team should have. This is good for reyes he gets a second chance.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | July 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Perdomo is a little guy. Throws hard. Pretty athletic. A little old for his level if I remember correctly. Good numbers. Duncan must really have lost faith in Reyes. I like this move for both teams, the Tribe especially. Indians should be able to slot Reyes into Byrd's place next year.
Posted by: MickS | July 26, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Like I said in the Manny post before this one ( this one wasn't up yet) that Cards should of traded him for Nelson Cruz.
Posted by: CUBBIES2008 | July 26, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Anthony Reyes pinpoints La Russa/Duncan's failure when it comes to pitching development.
They tried to turn him into somebody he wasn't, and really, really, hurt his development.
Indians got a steal - he has talent.
Posted by: V | July 26, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Steal for the Engines. I wish the A's had gotten Reyes
Posted by: Zonis | July 26, 2008 at 03:22 PM
http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/26/washburn-to-yanks/
Tim, Cork, somebody, get on the phone and do your thing.
Posted by: stove611 | July 26, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Nice little pick-up for Shapiro and Co. I'm surprised the Cards didn't use Reyes to get a veteran middle reliever. Maybe the Red Birds will deal one of their OF bats for Cla Meredith or one of the Giants' decent relief pitchers. Any thoughts, Card fans?
Posted by: luissojo | July 26, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Joelcards,
I think its been pretty well established at this point that Duncan forced Reyes to change his pitching style and strategy to fit Duncan's preferences instead of working with what Reyes had to make him more successful. They tried to completely change his approach, but his stuff just doesn't mesh with Duncan's philosophy. Instead of trying to fit the system to the player, Duncan tried to force the player to fit the system, and the results were terrible. That doesn't make Duncan a bad pitching coach or anything, it just means he screwed the pooch on this one.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 26, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Great, he has a philosophy that works for a lot of guys, but obviously both the team and Reyes would have been better served if Duncan was a little more hands off with him. I never said Duncan was a bad pitching coach, in fact I explicitly stated that wasn't the case, and I'd personally rate him as one of the better ones in the game. Still, the best pitching coaches should be able to evaluate what a pitcher does well and work from there. They shouldn't force the guy to scrap everything that got him to the majors and try to pigeonhole them into a philosophy that doesn't fit their strengths. Take a guy like Leo Mazzone, he advocated working low and away all the time, but he didn't force pitchers to throw specific pitches. Also, if you go back and watch video of Millwood in Atlanta, you'll see that he tended to work up in the zone a lot because it was a better fit with his skill set. I'm not trying to tear down Duncan, I'm just trying to make the point to you that he is not some infallible god among pitching coaches. He can make mistakes like everyone else.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 26, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Nix you are right on and Joel you are an idiot. Duncun is a GREAT pitching coach he doesn't do well with young pitchers and that is a fact. I'm suprised that Wano has delevoped this much under him.
As for the trade this was HORRIBLE! We coudl use the SP depth and getting a 24 year old A ball reliefer in return is a joke. Who wants to bet that Reyes does great in Cleveland? I bet the White Sox and Tigers aren't happy...
I hope this move isn't an indication of what Cards fans can expect from MO.
Posted by: IN TLR WE TRUST | July 26, 2008 at 05:33 PM
ODD MOVE
Posted by: Redbirdfan | July 26, 2008 at 06:05 PM
weird trade could have gotten much more
Posted by: _blakelee_ | July 26, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Anthony Reyes is almost 27 years old and has never shown the ability to major league hitters out. Now, Cardinals fans, explain to me why they should have gotten more for him.
I have a friend who is a rational Cardinals fan, and his only reaction to this was, "They should have traded him two years ago, when he had some value." He is correct.
Posted by: MikeMeyer | July 26, 2008 at 08:34 PM
Cardinal fans just expected to get more based on potential. He hasn't really shown an ability to get major league hitters out. He runs up pitch counts prety fast. Tends to have rough first innings, but settles in after that. The only problem with that is that a 6-run first inning is generally a big problem.
He could very wellbe succesful in Cleveland, but like so many Cardinal prospects in the past(Jimmy Journell, Chris Lambert, John Gall, etc.) I think he is a AAAA player. He plays ahead of the class at AAA, but can't cut it on a consistent basis at the Major League level.
That being said, he did win us game 1 of the 2006 World Series,and his era in St. Louis will always be remembered for that.
Posted by: camarodude39 | July 27, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I'd have to go with Brad Arnsberg for best pitching coach.
Posted by: Dev0 | July 27, 2008 at 09:56 AM